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Headphones SENNHEISER HEADPHONES, User may post ur experience of ur HP..

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post Jun 16 2006, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jun 16 2006, 02:56 PM)
I didnt remove the black cloth or the black spounge, the layer sounds to me it's the one which makes the sounds muffled, once remove it then I starting to feel regret, it's too harsh to my ears! I just have to find out what's tracing paper of and then DIY and put it back! I believe my baby could offer me much more, I'll keep on trying more tricks to get the best out of her flex.gif
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You can mimicking the Sennheiser HD650 design.

Remove the black cloth, the black spounge and try out... expected result (in my mind tongue.gif ) might be the bass not that strong as original but the trebles will be clearer. Maybe you can put one resistor on the stereo plug tongue.gif
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post Jun 16 2006, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jun 16 2006, 09:56 AM)
*Don't forget more civilised and educated, if you going to live concert smile.gif
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I like to go concert can feel da beat... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Jun 17 2006, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jun 16 2006, 02:34 PM)
DJs are not using DJ headphone then they must be joking themselves in their career.
Any reason they are not using it?
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that is not always the case... trust me. what makes a dj headphone is they're able to produce strong, non-distorted bass kick... allowing nice beatmatching to be done. high end headphones on the other hand provide excellent acoustic isolation. yes, dj headphones are usually more solid built, but then again, it's not all... so, would you foul out the rule that djs never use a high end headphone for dj'ing?
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post Jun 17 2006, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Jun 16 2006, 11:21 PM)
I like to go concert can feel da beat... thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Just went. All the music damn nice in MPO biggrin.gif
Carmen, Divertissement, Bolero... fuiyo.
The noice floor for the hall damn low. No resonance at all.
QUOTE(leng2 @ Jun 17 2006, 12:31 AM)
that is not always the case... trust me. what makes a dj headphone is they're able to produce strong, non-distorted bass kick... allowing nice beatmatching to be done. high end headphones on the other hand provide excellent acoustic isolation. yes, dj headphones are usually more solid built, but then again, it's not all... so, would you foul out the rule that djs never use a high end headphone for dj'ing?
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OK... let me try to find which DJs not using DJ headphones while they are performing mixing, except those sitting in the studio. Perhaps we can asking two DJs in this forum to give their comment. smile.gif
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post Jun 17 2006, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jun 17 2006, 01:03 AM)
Just went. All the music damn nice in MPO biggrin.gif
Carmen, Divertissement, Bolero... fuiyo.
The noice floor for the hall damn low. No resonance at all.

OK... let me try to find which DJs not using DJ headphones while they are performing mixing, except those sitting in the studio. Perhaps we can asking two DJs in this forum to give their comment. smile.gif
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u also went MPO ah, ic....did u buy a whole year concert? or a special sunday concert?

pretty nice man.... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Jun 17 2006, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jun 17 2006, 01:03 AM)
The noice floor for the hall damn low. No resonance at all.
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What do you mean? Concert halls usually have up to 2 seconds of reverb time to allow sounds to bloom
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post Jun 17 2006, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Jun 17 2006, 08:12 AM)
u also went MPO ah, ic....did u buy a whole year concert? or a special sunday concert?

pretty nice man.... thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Plannning now.. smile.gif
QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Jun 17 2006, 09:23 AM)
What do you mean? Concert halls usually have up to 2 seconds of reverb time to allow sounds to bloom
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Hmm... is it? I went in the hall quite early during pretalk session. I just feel that nothing really resonance back even my foot steps. The whole atmosphere just quite like wearing noise cancellation earphone (not noice cancellation plugs).
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post Jun 17 2006, 11:59 AM

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HD595 and HD650 owner here..well frankly i think sennheiser quality is dropping and well i prefer Audio-Technica anytime..
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post Jun 17 2006, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(^aMnESiA^ @ Jun 17 2006, 11:59 AM)
HD595 and HD650 owner here..well frankly i think sennheiser quality is dropping and well i prefer Audio-Technica anytime..
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which model audio-technica you using? thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Jun 18 2006, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jun 17 2006, 11:29 AM)
Plannning now.. smile.gif

Hmm... is it? I went in the hall quite early during pretalk session. I just feel that nothing really resonance back even my foot steps. The whole atmosphere just quite like wearing noise cancellation earphone (not noice cancellation plugs).
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Probably you can't feel it.
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post Jun 18 2006, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(mysticaldodo @ Jun 18 2006, 01:32 PM)
Probably you can't feel it.
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I have that kind of sense when i in da hall. like a cancelling noise stage. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Jun 20 2006, 01:49 AM

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Hi,

I might be interested on the Stax SRS-3030 Classic System II (depends on the price). But alas, one or two guys alone will be far from being enough reason to bring the Stax in.



QUOTE(DAViS @ Jun 16 2006, 10:41 AM)
Top secret = flame bait.
Just keep it to myself tongue.gif

Anything better? Stax?
Hehe... I guess I will wasting my time selling Stax in Malaysia even I can get good price from Japan. Look at our buyers buying power and exposure to music reproduction you already know.
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QUOTE(^aMnESiA^ @ Jun 17 2006, 11:59 AM)
HD595 and HD650 owner here..well frankly i think sennheiser quality is dropping and well i prefer Audio-Technica anytime..
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sennheiser quality is dropping?
dude, make sure u have a high-end cd player if u want to get the full potential of HD650.
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post Jun 20 2006, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(NoNaim @ Jun 20 2006, 02:12 AM)
sennheiser quality is dropping?
dude, make sure u have a high-end cd player if u want to get the full potential of HD650.
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get one amp to boost out lo.... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Jun 20 2006, 09:08 AM

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someone is selling px200 in the bulk session. RM 200 nia... thinking should i get it or not?
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post Jun 20 2006, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(mysticaldodo @ Jun 18 2006, 01:32 PM)
Probably you can't feel it.
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That is the quitest moment in my life tongue.gif
QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Jun 18 2006, 10:26 PM)
I have that kind of sense when i in da hall. like a cancelling noise stage. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Yes. Active Noise cancelling not passive noice cancelling.
QUOTE(hasnul @ Jun 20 2006, 01:49 AM)
Hi,

I might be interested on the Stax SRS-3030 Classic System II (depends on the price). But alas, one or two guys alone will be far from being enough reason to bring the Stax in.
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Yes... that is the reason.

QUOTE(ifer @ Jun 20 2006, 09:08 AM)
someone is selling px200 in the bulk session. RM 200 nia... thinking should i get it or not?
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A free gift from Nokia selling at RM200 with one month warranty vs. 2 years warranty from Sennheiser priced at RM270 with free S&H. smile.gif

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lol Davis advertising again tongue.gif But well hope reviews from Empire is good, then you will earn my money again LOL
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post Jun 20 2006, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(Renovatio @ Jun 20 2006, 12:28 PM)
lol Davis advertising again tongue.gif But well hope reviews from Empire is good, then you will earn my money again LOL
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He already received the item?
Not really. Just telling the facts like others buyer did given comment on the bulk sales tongue.gif
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post Jun 20 2006, 05:47 PM

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Anyone using the PMX70 sports headphone here? Would like to know the overall quality of it before I rush to get one.
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post Jun 20 2006, 07:48 PM

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My Review of the Sennheiser PX200.

Forgive me if my standards are high, but going from the HD650 to the PX200 has an effect on my judgement. So don't take this review too seriously, i can't guarantee total lack of bias.

First i'll go on my first impressions.

The build is fairly solid and the quality seems good, although i believe the joints where the drivers meat the headband could be improved, looks a little flimy if you ask me. Besides that, the thing looks like it can really last. Plus the 3 dots for you to feel you way to putting on the headphones are a welcome edition.

Next on is comfort.

I have sensitive ears and skin, that's all i can say, and the likes of Sony, Koss and such have been thrown out the window due to this constraint. I don't enjoy audio when my skin flakes and bleeds, so SQ comes a close second. Putting them on, the pressure i guess is just right, seriously, i swear i love it. And the pads are soft without that tingly feeling i get when i put Grados such as the SR60 or any foam pads on my ears, plus it doesn't annoy as much. And i recall complaining about the flimsy joins, but their flexibility is welcome since it contours well with my fat head.

Tighthening it up, it still didn't feel as bad as i expected, i guess its those soft pads on top of the headband lending some cushioning, and really it serves dual purposes, the headphones get a better grip on my noggin and it somewhat cushions movement noise. I shake tested the thing (head bobbing and daily movements simulated) and the headphone passes admirably. But there is catch, the cables aren't reinforced like the HD650s, so there is perceivable cable noise (noise caused by the cable scraping and hitting my body) during fast movement.

Isolation

First up is sound isolation i guess, and being supra-aural they do well attenuating outside noise and muffling it pretty well.

My jury rigged test setup comprised of my PC, yes, my awesome 58dB dust buster vaccum cleaner of a rig which is out fitted with 3 12CM fans (9 watters), a 12CM blower and 2 8CM fans. Opening the side (which is soundmat insulated) reveal my rigs monstrous noise in all it's glory, massive wind noise with minimal bearing whine. Put the PX200s on and give or take i get a good attenuation of 7-10dB by my estimate and eliminates the bearing whine. Not too bad since these aren't PXCs.

Sound Quality

All tests are done on a 3G ipod to simulate working conditions.

- Amp = Mikechai's Mini-EPH (Battery Gobbler)
- Songs = Orchestral/OST (FLAC)

- John Williams - March 1941 (Bass, Lower Midrange, Horns)
- John Williams - Saving Private Ryan, Hymn to the Fallen (Percussion, Treble, Mids and Highs, voice and seperation)
- John Williams - Empire23 strikes back, Imperial March (Bass, more Bass and even More Bass and some Horns too tongue.gif)

- Songs = Pop

- Moriyama Naotaro - Sakura (Vocals, mids)
- REM - The Great Beyond (Mids, Highs)
- Fatty-tan sings about Moot and Snacks (4chan crap) totally /b/ random stuff

I guess you guy have been waiting for this. A word of caution, these babies sound much better amped, i don't know why, maybe it's some Sennheiser fetish, but they all sound better with amps. But we'll leave that till later.

First off, first impression i get, pretty nasal (stuffy, thick and unfluid) when i need the dynamic range, but the bass is excellent i guess (typical Senns), but somewhat at the expense of the other ranges, but i found a quick cure, push the drivers abit back and leave a small port or opening (expose a small part of your ears) and that lets the excess sound out improving the other ranges but at the expense of isolation.

Second impression i get, feck, teh Bass is tight, fluid and generally very good. No it isn't the fengtau bass you and i have come to hate, but it's refined and by my count is excellent for something so small, very punchy and hits home all the time, the Imperial March was satisfying and made me feel Darth Vaderish and Evil, which is a good effect smile.gif

Mids, Good but it ain't excellent, vocals are clear, soft and warm, nothing to shout about when i'm jamming metallica, but certainly good when i listen to the likes of REM, Moriyama Naotaro or the soft vocals of the London Voices. Laid back and sweet, the imagining is good, but soundstage feels enclosed. And no it isn't punchy, the PX200 punches like 8 year old School Girl, it's more slow than hard hitting. If i were to rate it, i'll say 85 out of 100. Minor flaws don't get in it's way, and it suits the music i love.

Higs, hmmm, let's just say, it ain't that pretty, and seperation goes down to Whitechapel for a date with Jack the Ripper. The xylophone in John Williams Hymn to the fallen doesn't have the hit it has with the HD650 and totally loses it's seperation in this end of the spectrum, sounds like someone crapped on the instrument and it became all sticky plus the rolls off at the middle of the high end (or so i perceive). Veli baaaaad. 20 out of 100 for the highs.

Remember when i talked about amping? Yes, for some reason, the mids max out magically for me and the highs become tolerable, and the bass seems to be on steriods but doesn't lose it's delicate touch. If you ask me if it needs amping, in my opinion if you need that extra 15 percent in quality with a 50 percent increase in weight, yes, go for it. But what it improves most is the highs, gives it seperation that's worth a damn, cleans it up and gives it a crisper tinge and makes it more listenable, no, doesn't make it first class, but it makes it merely bearable.

After amping i would say i'd give the highs a 30-35 percent out of 100 score. Amping certainly ain't no magical panacea, but it sure as hell helps.

So that's it for today, do post comments if you find anything wrong or wish to discuss this review.

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