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Investment Alam Impian (Pentas V3) - A New Chapter Begins, A hidden gem

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post Oct 12 2021, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(MomoFoong @ Oct 11 2021, 10:48 PM)
Any idea for the new launch: Casablanca Cluster house? Good buy?
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Not sure but many are jumping on the bandwagon!
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post Oct 12 2021, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(MomoFoong @ Oct 11 2021, 10:48 PM)
Any idea for the new launch: Casablanca Cluster house? Good buy?
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For own stay, if the price range below 1 m for me it is a good buy...but for now i dont think alam impian can be consider as premium area if compare to kota kemuning, setia alam or rimbayu area due to lack of commercial and also public ameneties
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post Oct 12 2021, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(farizidris @ Oct 12 2021, 10:03 AM)
For own stay, if the price range below 1 m for me it is a good buy...but for now i dont think alam impian can be consider as  premium area if compare to kota kemuning, setia alam or rimbayu area due to lack of commercial and also public ameneties
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Premium.. I won’t use the word premium. I would describe it as quiet and secluded. Premium means different thing to different people. Some feel desapark is premium, I feel that’s just a place many outsiders like to come hangout. You can see evening full of people at the park outside the housing areas. Probably half are not even staying there. To me that’s not premium that’s like a landfill, people from everywhere else come fill up your taman. LOL.

SP Setia compete their master plan, it will be so cheap? The cluster is semi-D. As I’ve said the commercials are coming — you can see the construction now.

1.3m is published price. HOC means 10% discount by developer, and other goodies. Below 1M can get terrace. I don’t think Alam Impian ever sold any semi D below 1M by developer. The current price doesn’t take into account the future development. At least not yet.

SP is serious about Alam Impian. That’s the only tip I can give you. As SP adds more commercial, the overall pricing of the township will increase as it becomes more vibrant. Of course SP also want to sell houses at a higher price maaaaaaa.

Anyway I have no doubt SP will be able to sell.
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post Oct 12 2021, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Oct 12 2021, 10:16 AM)
Premium.. I won’t use the word premium. I would describe it as quiet and secluded. Premium means different thing to different people. Some feel desapark is premium, I feel that’s just a place many outsiders like to come hangout. You can see evening full of people at the park outside the housing areas. Probably half are not even staying there. To me that’s not premium that’s like a landfill, people from everywhere else come fill up your taman. LOL.

SP Setia compete their master plan, it will be so cheap? The cluster is semi-D. As I’ve said the commercials are coming — you can see the construction now.

1.3m is published price. HOC means 10% discount by developer, and other goodies. Below 1M can get terrace. I don’t think Alam Impian ever sold any semi D below 1M by developer. The current price doesn’t take into account the future development. At least not yet.

SP is serious about Alam Impian. That’s the only tip I can give you. As SP adds more commercial, the overall pricing of the township will increase as it becomes more vibrant. Of course SP also want to sell houses at a higher price maaaaaaa. 

Anyway I have no doubt SP will be able to sell.
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SP Setia management, ahem~~~ u know i know la. some more AI is landlocked area with toll, no matter what shop /mall is built, outsider wont go in for visit.
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post Oct 12 2021, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Oct 12 2021, 10:16 AM)
Premium.. I won’t use the word premium. I would describe it as quiet and secluded. Premium means different thing to different people. Some feel desapark is premium, I feel that’s just a place many outsiders like to come hangout. You can see evening full of people at the park outside the housing areas. Probably half are not even staying there. To me that’s not premium that’s like a landfill, people from everywhere else come fill up your taman. LOL.

SP Setia compete their master plan, it will be so cheap? The cluster is semi-D. As I’ve said the commercials are coming — you can see the construction now.

1.3m is published price. HOC means 10% discount by developer, and other goodies. Below 1M can get terrace. I don’t think Alam Impian ever sold any semi D below 1M by developer. The current price doesn’t take into account the future development. At least not yet.

SP is serious about Alam Impian. That’s the only tip I can give you. As SP adds more commercial, the overall pricing of the township will increase as it becomes more vibrant. Of course SP also want to sell houses at a higher price maaaaaaa. 

Anyway I have no doubt SP will be able to sell.
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The land is landlocked by toll hence there will be problem for them to open up commercial and expect the surrounding to flock there

Not sure if SP Setia is serious about Alam Impian as their other projects like Alam Sari Bangi and EcoHill already completed their non toll access roads, launched more new properties, club houses and even completed a big shopping mall
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QUOTE(mingyew @ Oct 12 2021, 11:35 AM)
SP Setia management, ahem~~~ u know i know la. some more AI is landlocked area with toll, no matter what shop /mall is built, outsider wont go in for visit.
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Oct 12 2021, 11:44 AM)
The land is landlocked by toll hence there will be problem for them to open up commercial and expect the surrounding to flock there

Not sure if SP Setia is serious about Alam Impian as their other projects like Alam Sari Bangi and EcoHill already completed their non toll access roads, launched more new properties, club houses and even completed a big shopping mall
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Ya the lakefront at AI has the club house coming. But I do not foresee a mall. Not sure if the master plan has a mall. I don't think there's a need for a mall, I prefer neighbourhood shops/malls.

And being landlocked by a toll is the reason to stay here. Everybody's requirement and preference is different.

You guys feel a place like Desapark "opens up" the commercial and people flock there. That is accurate. My friend stays in DSP and can see waterfront is packed every single day, and she can't even enjoy it - no parking. Can't ask friends to come hang with her.

So, I agree with your view, I wouldn't want my township to be filled with outsiders, I want it to be exclusive. You not willing to pay the RM0.90 toll? Don't want to come here? Great, stay away.

EDIT: Put it this way, if my neighbour is complaining about the RM0.90, go stay somewhere else. If you have no qualms paying that toll every time to enter/exit, it kind of excludes certain class of people, if you get what I mean. Not that you can't afford it, but your mindset.

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post Oct 12 2021, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Oct 12 2021, 10:16 AM)
Premium.. I won’t use the word premium. I would describe it as quiet and secluded. Premium means different thing to different people. Some feel desapark is premium, I feel that’s just a place many outsiders like to come hangout. You can see evening full of people at the park outside the housing areas. Probably half are not even staying there. To me that’s not premium that’s like a landfill, people from everywhere else come fill up your taman. LOL.

SP Setia compete their master plan, it will be so cheap? The cluster is semi-D. As I’ve said the commercials are coming — you can see the construction now.

1.3m is published price. HOC means 10% discount by developer, and other goodies. Below 1M can get terrace. I don’t think Alam Impian ever sold any semi D below 1M by developer. The current price doesn’t take into account the future development. At least not yet.

SP is serious about Alam Impian. That’s the only tip I can give you. As SP adds more commercial, the overall pricing of the township will increase as it becomes more vibrant. Of course SP also want to sell houses at a higher price maaaaaaa. 

Anyway I have no doubt SP will be able to sell.
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For me premium is when people willing to pay extra to be in that particular area compare to area around it..like setia alam and meru or taman tun and kayu ara where people willing to pay additional 10 to 15% to be in that specific area

Cluster is not a semi d by the way..developer using just label them as semi d to make it sound better, so that they at sell at higher price.

About alam impian, minimal it gonna take another 3 to 5 years to make it more vibrant and complete. Looking at current progress it is much better compare to the last developer
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QUOTE(Jason @ Oct 12 2021, 12:20 PM)
Ya the lakefront at AI has the club house coming. But I do not foresee a mall. Not sure if the master plan has a mall. I don't think there's a need for a mall, I prefer neighbourhood shops/malls.

And being landlocked by a toll is the reason to stay here. Everybody's requirement and preference is different.

You guys feel a place like Desapark "opens up" the commercial and people flock there. That is accurate. My friend stays in DSP and can see waterfront is packed every single day, and she can't even enjoy it - no parking. Can't ask friends to come hang with her.

So, I agree with your view, I wouldn't want my township to be filled with outsiders, I want it to be exclusive. You not willing to pay the RM0.90 toll? Don't want to come here? Great, stay away.

EDIT: Put it this way, if my neighbour is complaining about the RM0.90, go stay somewhere else. If you have no qualms paying that toll every time to enter/exit, it kind of excludes certain class of people, if you get what I mean. Not that you can't afford it, but your mindset.
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Yes Alam Impian is good for someone that searching for peaceful living

But dont expect good commercial facility coming in as business will be quite hesitant to invest in due to small capture area

It remind me of BSP last time when they only have tolled ELITE and SKVE as outlet .. the town is dead with poor commercial activities
The two highway exit is chocked as ppl need to get out from the area for commercial areas

It only changed when 257, Rimbayu opening up behind them and provide free access road to Kota Kemuning

I hope SP Setia emulate their other project in investing in free linked road. They invest millions in EcoHill highway to improve the town connectivity with Semenyih town and neighbouring Majestic

For Alam Sari they invested millions in building access roads to Bangi Avenue and Serene Heights to provide better connectivity

SP Setia should start invest also in direct link to Seksyen 17 and 18 over the Klang river via Persiaran Raja Muda to give them access to Shah Alam town before building more houses or commercial





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post Oct 12 2021, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Oct 12 2021, 02:05 PM)
Yes Alam Impian is good for someone that searching for peaceful living

But dont expect good commercial facility coming in as business will be quite hesitant to invest in due to small capture area

It remind me of BSP last time when they only have tolled ELITE and SKVE as outlet .. the town is dead with poor commercial activities
The two highway exit is chocked as ppl need to get out from the area for commercial areas

It only changed when 257, Rimbayu opening up behind them and provide free access road to Kota Kemuning

I hope SP Setia emulate their other project in investing in free linked road. They invest millions in EcoHill highway to improve the town connectivity with Semenyih town and neighbouring Majestic

For Alam Sari they invested millions in building access roads to Bangi Avenue and Serene Heights to provide better connectivity

SP Setia should start invest also in direct link to Seksyen 17 and 18 over the Klang river via Persiaran Raja Muda to give them access to Shah Alam town before building more houses or commercial
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nvm, some just dont understand the commercial catchment, so best is remain as is, nobody go in and remain calm and breezy.

Oh yeah, toll can be keep extend and increase too, last time is 60cents, now already 90cents, not cant afford, just why must choose there for commercial activities.
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post Oct 12 2021, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(farizidris @ Oct 12 2021, 01:08 PM)
About alam impian, minimal it gonna take another 3 to 5 years to make it more vibrant and complete. Looking at current progress it is much better compare to the last developer
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Spot on. It will still take some time. But it will not hit the levels of Kota Kemuning anytime soon. So I don't recommend for investors or flipping. Just opposite across KESAS, Eco Sanctuary & Rimbayu is way more happening.


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post Oct 12 2021, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Oct 12 2021, 11:44 AM)
The land is landlocked by toll hence there will be problem for them to open up commercial and expect the surrounding to flock there

Not sure if SP Setia is serious about Alam Impian as their other projects like Alam Sari Bangi and EcoHill already completed their non toll access roads, launched more new properties, club houses and even completed a big shopping mall
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ya, landlocked like setia alam but the only difference is there isn't much land in setia alam (left). Will take years to build up and have more facilities. I would say good for own stay and not so much of rental market.
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QUOTE(jex-koi @ Oct 12 2021, 04:34 PM)
ya, landlocked like setia alam but the only difference is there isn't much land in setia alam (left). Will take years to build up and have more facilities. I would say good for own stay and not so much of rental market.
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Setia Alam not landlocked, huge catchment from meru,kapar,bbr and north klang.. easily over million catchment.

the rental here is good also, dont have tenant issue.
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QUOTE(Jason @ Oct 12 2021, 12:20 PM)
Ya the lakefront at AI has the club house coming. But I do not foresee a mall. Not sure if the master plan has a mall. I don't think there's a need for a mall, I prefer neighbourhood shops/malls.

And being landlocked by a toll is the reason to stay here. Everybody's requirement and preference is different.

You guys feel a place like Desapark "opens up" the commercial and people flock there. That is accurate. My friend stays in DSP and can see waterfront is packed every single day, and she can't even enjoy it - no parking. Can't ask friends to come hang with her.

So, I agree with your view, I wouldn't want my township to be filled with outsiders, I want it to be exclusive. You not willing to pay the RM0.90 toll? Don't want to come here? Great, stay away.

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QUOTE(farizidris @ Oct 12 2021, 01:08 PM)
For me premium is when people willing to pay extra to be in that particular area compare to area around it..like setia alam and meru or  taman tun and kayu ara where people willing to pay additional 10 to 15% to be in that specific area

Cluster is not a semi d by the way..developer using just label them as semi d to make it sound better, so that they at sell at higher price.

About alam impian, minimal it gonna take another 3 to 5 years to make it more vibrant and complete. Looking at current progress it is much better compare to the last developer
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exactly. give it another 5-7 years. it will be a matured township wtih more commercial elements (shops, banks, clubhouse and etc). having a mall wont be a bad idea. a proper mall (not like Ole Ole Mall whistling.gif ) i think they are planning to build LRT line if not mistaken, read it somewhere in LF only (10-15 years plan).

haha ya cluster is like a rebrand name for terrace house with land only. it is same size and price as end-lot of terrace houses. i think after rebate is about 1.02m i think.


for those who have no idea about alam impian...


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post Oct 14 2021, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(KLKN_Views @ Oct 14 2021, 03:59 PM)
i think they are planning to build LRT line if not mistaken, read it somewhere in LF only (10-15 years plan).
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Got more details on that?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shah_Alam_Line

This says 2024 go live. So not the 10-15 years one you mentioned.
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post Oct 14 2021, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(farizidris @ Oct 12 2021, 10:03 AM)
For own stay, if the price range below 1 m for me it is a good buy...but for now i dont think alam impian can be consider as  premium area if compare to kota kemuning, setia alam or rimbayu area due to lack of commercial and also public ameneties
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Looks like all units over mil...the cluster home





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post Oct 16 2021, 11:25 AM

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I think prices are slowly creeping up in AI. Hopefully SPS can bring some vibrancy which was clearly lacking with I&P
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If considering Casablanca for 2nd property and no issues with dsr, is there problem getting 90% loan from banks because of valuation?
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QUOTE(jucl @ Oct 16 2021, 11:25 AM)
I think prices are slowly creeping up in AI. Hopefully SPS can bring some vibrancy which was clearly lacking with I&P
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Yeah, hopefully SPS csn really transfer the township :-)
https://www.edgeprop.my/content/1899848/set...t-current-needs


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Anyone interested in the kayamas alam impian project beside Impian Tropika Residences?
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QUOTE(hs_clover @ Nov 26 2021, 03:23 PM)
Anyone interested in the kayamas alam impian project beside Impian Tropika Residences?
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Using same road to exit as SP alam impain?? Cheaper?

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