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 The Shrimp Thing, All About Shrimp - Neocaridina & Others

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jirochl
post Apr 10 2014, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Apr 9 2014, 01:25 PM)
Normally we either change soil , topup soil or put in additives like Benibachi fulvic grain(last 6mths).
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In that case, adding fulvic grain is the much easier option.
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post Apr 10 2014, 09:35 AM

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Hi bros, Need some advice here. I'm using two Hailea air pumps for my shrimp tanks which give out very strong smells something like burnt plastics. Problem is my tanks are in my room and my wife couldn't stand the smell. Do you have this problem? Or are you using any air pump that doesn't give out such smell? Is there any alternative to airpump that can drive air to UGF and sponge filter? Pls help.
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post Apr 10 2014, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(jirochl @ Apr 10 2014, 09:35 AM)
Hi bros, Need some advice here. I'm using two Hailea air pumps for my shrimp tanks which give out very strong smells something like burnt plastics. Problem is my tanks are in my room and my wife couldn't stand the smell. Do you have this problem? Or are you using any air pump that doesn't give out such smell? Is there any alternative to airpump that can drive air to UGF and sponge filter? Pls help.
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which model of hailea air pump? i have around 5 of them, didn't notice any smell unless it burn up, but air pump always vibrant and when you put it stick/lean on the rack/wood etc,
it actually consistent scratch/rub against these surface, this may heat up the plastic body then come the smell. Also check the air hose and aquarium fan, two of my up aqua fan burn up and it engulf my house with plastic burning smell.
If possible hang the air pump in mid-air.
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post Apr 10 2014, 12:47 PM

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Sorry guys, new here. Where can I buy nice Fire Red. Just got my tank to cycle. Am in KK Sabah.
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post Apr 10 2014, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Apr 10 2014, 12:38 PM)
which model of hailea air pump? i have around 5 of them, didn't notice any smell unless it burn up, but air pump always vibrant and when you put it stick/lean on the rack/wood etc,
it actually consistent scratch/rub against these surface, this may heat up the plastic body then come the smell. Also check the air hose and aquarium fan, two of my up aqua fan burn up and it engulf my house with plastic burning smell.
If possible hang the air pump in mid-air.
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Hi bro arrow, the air pumps are Hailea 9905 with adjustable flow. I'm actually not that bothered by the smell that much. Just that my wife keep complaining about the smell and the vibratting noise haha. It's because she just got pregnant and it's giving her nausea. sweat.gif I'm thinking to replace the sponge filters with HOBs for now and just keep one air pump for the UGF to minimize the smell and noise. Two up aqua fans burnt up?? gosh, that's really bad quality.

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post Apr 10 2014, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Apr 10 2014, 12:38 PM)
which model of hailea air pump? i have around 5 of them, didn't notice any smell unless it burn up, but air pump always vibrant and when you put it stick/lean on the rack/wood etc,
it actually consistent scratch/rub against these surface, this may heat up the plastic body then come the smell. Also check the air hose and aquarium fan, two of my up aqua fan burn up and it engulf my house with plastic burning smell.
If possible hang the air pump in mid-air.
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Mentioned about Up-Aqua fan, the build quality is not up to basic standard. The one i have im using it less than 6 months, the motor getting weak and yes it's vibrating against my shrimp tank blink.gif

Now looking for a small and powerful fan. LFS recommend me Intense fan shakehead.gif
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post Apr 12 2014, 02:46 PM

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Do anyone have idea, what the commercial product is neccessary/must have to keep the CRS always health .

This is to to help us buy the right thing with minimum cost to keep CRS .. i am start to comment with mosura product , other brand like borneowild and so on . please comment as well. if you feel something that is the must , please comment why as well.



1.) what is neccessary/ must for crs

- mineral plus ( to ensure GH level is alway maintain)
- BT9 ( to ensure the good bactera to minimize nitrite issue)
- old sea mud powder (to ensure the trace element exist in water , it require for CRS )

2.) What is extra /add on for crs

- MOSURA Eros
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post Apr 14 2014, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(bluecoat @ Apr 12 2014, 02:46 PM)
Do anyone have idea, what the commercial product is neccessary/must have to keep the CRS always health .

This is to to help us buy the right thing with minimum cost to keep CRS .. i am start to comment with mosura product , other brand like borneowild and so on . please comment as well. if you feel something that is the must , please comment why as well.
1.) what is neccessary/ must for crs

- mineral plus      ( to ensure GH level is alway maintain)
- BT9    ( to ensure the good bactera to minimize nitrite issue)
- old sea mud powder  (to ensure the trace element exist in water , it require for CRS )

2.) What is extra /add on for crs

- MOSURA Eros
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Bro, if you really into crs, before getting additives and soil, start with the water first,
prepare to use full RO water, why? cos water is the basic of all, and with RO water pureness , you forgo tap water impurities and
you are precise in getting the exact parameter with the additives you gonna use.

For example in this setup, very basic with full RO water.
Soil - Benibachi or borneowild shrimp soil.
Additive - Mosura Mineral plus.
After setup tank with soil and full RO water , dose mosura mineral plus to get your desired GH and Tds,
cos of the PH 7(neutral), zero GH and <10 TDS reading of RO water ,the GH and TDS you getting from dosing mosura mineral plus
can be very accurate, This will minimize error and pinpoint problem to other field if problem rise in parameters.



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post Apr 14 2014, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Apr 8 2014, 02:09 AM)
i on;y change few time bio media in 6 yrs, that because to upgrade to better and more surface filter media to maximize filter compartment space.
It depend whether the media is badly clogged beyond repair(wash), or the surface value for bacteria to colonize is very less, then change,
just change little by little , mix new with old media till the new media got seeded with bacteria.'
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I never changed nor washed. I just change the wool filter. Afraid will disturb the media. Also due to water shortage and resupply with not so clean water, I never do water change, just top up like 3 litres in 2 days as I use fan to cool the water down. So far so good. shocking.gif

Btw, saw some newborn shrimplets on blue shrimp tank, brown shrimp tank, fire red shrimp tank and cherry shrimp tank!!! feeling rclxm9.gif thumbup.gif
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post Apr 14 2014, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(lily64my @ Apr 14 2014, 11:49 AM)
I never changed nor washed. I just change the wool filter. Afraid will disturb the media. Also due to water shortage and resupply with not so clean water, I never do water change, just top up like 3 litres in 2 days as I use fan to cool the water down. So far so good. shocking.gif

Btw, saw some newborn shrimplets on blue shrimp tank, brown shrimp tank, fire red shrimp tank and cherry shrimp tank!!! feeling  rclxm9.gif  thumbup.gif
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unless necessary , don't change filter media , if change , do it gradually.
Sis, if your tap water is bad, you can change with bottled RO or distilled water, but don't change so much, 5-10% as starter as full RO water will
reduce your GH, TDS.
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QUOTE(arrow @ Apr 14 2014, 12:14 PM)
unless necessary , don't change filter media , if change , do it gradually.
Sis, if your tap water is bad, you can change with bottled RO or distilled water, but don't change so much, 5-10% as starter as full RO water will
reduce your GH, TDS.
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Now water supply is stable. Further iam putting in the Super Bacteria Bee Max and Benibachi Crimson Balls in the tank. Everyone is happy in the tank. Yet to put in the mineral rocks.


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post Apr 14 2014, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(lily64my @ Apr 14 2014, 12:19 PM)
Now water supply is stable. Further iam putting in the Super Bacteria Bee Max and Benibachi Crimson Balls in the tank. Everyone is happy in the tank. Yet to put in the mineral rocks.
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sis, the super nacteria bee max also a breeding/molting additives, don't put too much , put little first.
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post Apr 14 2014, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Apr 14 2014, 02:42 PM)
sis, the super nacteria bee max also a breeding/molting additives, don't put too much , put little first.
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Yes measurement according to the Benibachi guy told. Teaspoon only.
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post Apr 15 2014, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Apr 14 2014, 01:28 AM)
Bro, if you really into crs, before getting additives and soil, start with the water first,
prepare to use full RO water, why? cos water is the basic of all, and with RO water pureness , you forgo tap water impurities and
you are precise in getting the exact parameter with the additives you gonna use.

For example in this setup, very basic with full RO water.
Soil - Benibachi or borneowild shrimp soil.
Additive - Mosura Mineral plus.
After setup tank with soil and full RO water , dose mosura mineral plus to get your desired GH and Tds,
cos of the PH 7(neutral), zero GH and <10 TDS reading of RO water ,the GH and TDS you getting from dosing mosura mineral plus
can be very accurate, This will minimize error and pinpoint problem to other field if problem rise in parameters.
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Do you vacumn gravel after period of time even have ugf ? I found crs so many waste produce .
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post Apr 15 2014, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Apr 10 2014, 12:47 PM)
Sorry guys, new here. Where can I buy nice Fire Red. Just got my tank to cycle. Am in KK Sabah.
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Try order from Mr Park at :-
They can post to u.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/ShrimpFriendsMalaysian
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post Apr 15 2014, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(bluecoat @ Apr 15 2014, 08:27 AM)
Do you vacumn gravel after period of time even have ugf ? I found crs so many waste produce .
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No, unless really necessary, as for sensitive shrimps like crs, there is always risk when disturbing the substrate.
The shrimp poo may look alot but it is nothing if you compare with fishes. The bacteria in the substrate will take care of these poo.
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post Apr 15 2014, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Apr 15 2014, 01:22 PM)
No, unless really necessary, as for sensitive shrimps like crs, there is always risk when disturbing the substrate.
The shrimp poo may look alot but it is nothing if you compare with fishes. The bacteria in the substrate will take care of these poo.
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Thats right. I never vacuum them cause afraid the ADA soil will also make the water black or brown (as i am using 2 types of ADA Soil).
Some people also advise me to add the bacteria powder once i do water change (a small portion of the spoon). That helps in getting clear water.

This post has been edited by lily64my: Apr 15 2014, 01:33 PM
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post Apr 15 2014, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Apr 15 2014, 01:22 PM)
No, unless really necessary, as for sensitive shrimps like crs, there is always risk when disturbing the substrate.
The shrimp poo may look alot but it is nothing if you compare with fishes. The bacteria in the substrate will take care of these poo.
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My shrimp is look alway hiding , i believe there are not that happy by water parameter. my NH3 and 4 is " 0 " , i may need measure NO2.


Allright , thats y i think bottom UGF is important. As now mine is without UGF and wrongly soil used.
i will aim to have a UGF and bough new soil to re-setup....

After read through from here , it look benebachi brand is look look more reliable . please correct me if i am wrong. . just wonder what is the necessary for substrate and gravel require ? example : nutrient and bacteria
what is the first layer on top of UGF ?

What is the roughly total price for 3 ft tank to setup on this ?

Please advice

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post Apr 15 2014, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(bluecoat @ Apr 15 2014, 05:01 PM)
My shrimp is look alway hiding , i believe there are not that happy by water parameter. my NH3 and 4 is " 0 " , i may need measure NO2.
Allright , thats y i think bottom UGF is important. As now mine is without UGF and wrongly soil used.
i will aim to have a UGF and bough new soil to re-setup....

After read through from here , it look benebachi brand is look look more reliable . please correct me if i am wrong. . just wonder what is the necessary for substrate and gravel require ? example : nutrient and bacteria
what is the first layer on top of UGF ?

What is the roughly total price for 3 ft tank to setup on this ?

Please advice
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Arrow always a good adviser however, you may want to try to contact this shop. Their tank water is clear as they doing the right system. I wish I knew them before.

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This post has been edited by lily64my: Apr 15 2014, 05:38 PM
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post Apr 15 2014, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(bluecoat @ Apr 15 2014, 05:01 PM)
My shrimp is look alway hiding , i believe there are not that happy by water parameter. my NH3 and 4 is " 0 " , i may need measure NO2.
Allright , thats y i think bottom UGF is important. As now mine is without UGF and wrongly soil used.
i will aim to have a UGF and bough new soil to re-setup....

After read through from here , it look benebachi brand is look look more reliable . please correct me if i am wrong. . just wonder what is the necessary for substrate and gravel require ? example : nutrient and bacteria
what is the first layer on top of UGF ?

What is the roughly total price for 3 ft tank to setup on this ?

Please advice
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For Benibachi full setup :

UGF -> Benibachi Bacter Base -> 1cm of Benibachi soil -> Benibachi Bee Max -> 0.5-1cm of Benibachi soil -> Benibachi Mineral Powder -> The rest of Benibachi soil -> (optional)->put some powder form of benibachi soil on top the normal grain.

For 3ft tank, this may cost quite a dent as
Soil require 12L(3cm thick) - 20L(5cm thick) . each 8L bag cost RM114.00
Bacter Base - 3L to cover 90x45cm base - each 1.5L bag cost rm67.00
Benibachi Bee Max 30g - need 2 pack for 3ft , each pack cost rm67.00
Benibachi Mineral Powder 120g . need 2 pack . each pack cost rm57.00
Benibachi Mineral rock 300g for 60L water, so 3ft around 150L water , need around 750g , 1 pack 1kg cost rm82.00
(Optional)Benibachi powder soil loose pack 3L , cost around rm50-60.

If follow full system, you have to use :
Benibachi Active water 250ml RM114.00 (kick start bacteria) (dose during setup & maintenance)
Benibachi Emergency water 100ml rm77.00 (mineral and trace elements) (dose during setup & maintenance)

Optional :
Benibachi crimson ball 1 box 10 ball - rm100.00++
Benibachi Alpha zero slab - rm55.00

These are Benibachi system for CRS setup.

Above are excluding tank, UGF, additional filter , chiller and light system.

Rough cost for just the benibachi stuff for 3ft cost around rm900 - 1k++ alone excluding Tank, UGF, Air pump , additional Filter & light.

This post has been edited by arrow: Apr 15 2014, 07:50 PM

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