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 The Shrimp Thing, All About Shrimp - Neocaridina & Others

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post Jan 30 2014, 03:13 AM

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Arrow ,

I already kill number of shrimp as i dont know why they not able adapt in my tank environment. After do some reseach , can you advice for long term is the chiller , bio system , GH , KH and PH control is neccessary. how you contorl for the PH. if got control , can advice what test kit you use for it ?
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post Feb 2 2014, 10:43 AM

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hi all , i plan to put shrimp to my plant tank . i heard some people say anubias nana could harm shrimp . is thatt truth ?

Is that any plant will harm shrimp ?
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post Feb 8 2014, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Feb 2 2014, 12:40 PM)
Some claim yes some said no. As I said before every tank is unique due to setup, size etc.
Anubias poison basic is when the stem/leaf is damaged/trimmed the sap that leak is poisonous to shrimps.
So is upto you to decide. For me I don't like anubias and I take safe better then sorry path esp if the tank is full of expensive shrimps.
One things about plants in tank with shrimps is that you must be careful in adding new plants , alot of plants is grow emersed in farm and be spray with pesticides and fertilizers that are fatal to shrimps.  Any new plants need to know the source and be quarantine.  If buying from direct seller, ask them it is safe for shrimp. If from shop better test the plants in a bucket with one shrimp first before introduce in your tank else you risk wipe your whole colony.
Actived carbon can remove fert and pesticides.  Put them in the filter of the quarantine tank.
Fyi. We normally wont add in any new plants in established shrimp tank.
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Hi Arrow

I am wonder for CRS shrimp what is the exact water parameter in term of PH , GH , KH and temperature ?
Do you check GH and KH value to ensure your shrimp healthy ? i dont know how to check GH and KH even i havve sera test kit for KH.
Any best test kit to introduce ?

Do you have any bio filter system for your tank with come with develop bacteria ?
If bio system is need , can you introduce any external bio filter system ?


Please advice
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post Feb 11 2014, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Feb 10 2014, 02:00 PM)
Can just give a basic guideline as parameters vary for different type crystal shrimp.
Ph 6.2 - 6.6
GH 4-6
KH 0-2
Tds 100-150

i check TDS more often, as too high TDS in water if it doesn't come from mineral addtives/rock , it reflect pullution in the water.
Sera test kit is ok , i'm using Sera GH tester , just take sometime to read the instruction manual.

Bacteria need to build up itself in your tank, it take time, to speed it up, you can add bacteria water and additives to promote bacteria growth, ample of oxygen in water during initial cycling will help a lot.

Some filter media like ADA bio rio and Biohome plus come with added bacteria in dormant state.
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It is new thing for me on the TDS , your test kit for the TDS in the liquid or electrical test pen ?
Grade C , B , A and S CRS is using the same water parameter , is it ?

I am at middle setup CRS tank, plan to get a Chiller . Is it the must ?

What the CRS you having and may be can buy some from you smile.gif
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post Mar 17 2014, 09:34 AM

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What is the best way to lower down ph for crs tank ?
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post Mar 17 2014, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Mar 17 2014, 03:05 PM)
shrimp soil from benibachi , borneowild  or plant soil from ADA - new amazonia soil.
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Do you use any ph down chemical solution ?
If yes ,what is the brand ?
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post Mar 19 2014, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(jirochl @ Mar 19 2014, 09:40 AM)
I heard this opae ula shrimp has a life span of 20 years?!  shocking.gif omg
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Anyone can advice wat to use restore mineral for RO water ?
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post Mar 19 2014, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Mar 19 2014, 01:22 PM)
for opae ula ?
opae ula need brackish water(half salinity of marine water at 1.012-1.016)
use RO or distilled water to make the brackish water , the won't survive in freshwater.
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How about restore mineral at ro water for CRS ?
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post Mar 20 2014, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Mar 20 2014, 06:38 AM)
use mosura mineral plus , also can use benibachi emergency water.
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Yes,what is the different between this 2 and where can buy it ?
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post Mar 22 2014, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Mar 20 2014, 03:25 PM)
First -Brand , second - ingredients , all 3 the will increase TDS and GH. How much and how much to use and how fast the effect vary on each type.
Third - price different alot with benibachi the most expensive , then mosura follow by Up Aqua.

But come to think of it , if anyone can afford a rm70 or above for one bee shrimps , these product price are just a tad of it.
If you want fast and also proven safe record on increase RO water tds/gh , go for mosura.
Benibachi will cost more if you on budget.

To buy
Mosura - try aquashop in lelong
Benibachi - benibachi reseller in malaysia , try search facebook for details.
Up aqua - some LFS in KL stock them. last saw them in fish depot and 88 petsmart.
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today go 88 petsmart at pandan indah. No mosura or up aqua brand. Buy a small bottle mineral for shrimp fluval brand.

before that I do the water test for gh at aquarium. Gh level almost 0 due to I always use ro without dose any mineral.

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post Mar 23 2014, 11:53 PM

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I saw my crs breeding after put mineral of fluval. So fast. smile.gif
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post Mar 24 2014, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(jirochl @ Mar 24 2014, 12:56 PM)
I wonder how often do you guys vacuum your substrates to clean off the built up debris? is it necessary to do it often if you have CRS?
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Your question is subjective. Depend on total shrimp , food and filter use for your tank
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post Mar 31 2014, 03:42 PM

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Anyone can provide list of possibility why crs is not active and not moving and remain at same place place for quite some time ? Please comment.
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post Mar 31 2014, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Mar 31 2014, 03:57 PM)
Lot of possibilities. 
-tank not cycled.
-lack of o2 -> temperature high > 28c, too much co2.
-ph , tds and gh not ideal. Ph around 6.2-6.6(6.4 ideal)  tds 120-150 and gh 4-5.
-water high nitrate > 40ppm , overfeeding? (Feed everyday?)
-water flow too fast -Crs actually gripping on soil inorder to move?
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Crs not need feed everyday ? Nitrate is belong to no3 and no4 ,right ?
I found when purely ro water with gh and kh 0. The shrimp no problem. Add in the some gh increaser. It start breeding.. I found it good of gh increaser then add more. But it look create bad for crs aand it start no moving. Did you encounter this scenario before ?

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post Apr 6 2014, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Apr 4 2014, 01:53 AM)
Nitrate is NO3, unless you got lot of crs(> 100tail in an 2 ft) , you no need to feed everyday, once every 2 or 3 days with small pcs is enough,
too much food esp these high in protein do more harm then good. Your tank have natural food for them (biofilm/algae).
GH for crs , stay at GH4-6 enough , don't increase GH more than 0.5 in 24hrs when shrimp already in tank , this will shock them.
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ic , My existing sera test kit is for NH3/NH4, is for ammonia. What is the major test kit to measure water parameter for your CRS - GH , KH or ?

My water parameter for PH always stay at 7.1 -7.2. Just wonder how you lower down the PH always ? Do you use any PH down ? if yes what brand you using most ?


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post Apr 6 2014, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Apr 6 2014, 12:04 AM)
i'm using shrimp soil buffer down the ph, my tap water is ph7.6, with soil , it stay at ph6.4.
There is liquid tester for GH and KH as well.
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I am also having soil in 5-6cm thick . when you mention soil buffer is means how thick the soil , is it ? or it is some thing put into substrate ? i think my tab water same with you 7.6.
The problem is if i change water every week , i add the tab water to the tank .. it will from ph 7 to 7.6.

Myy soil just use only 2 month . I thinking is my soil brand not good cause this problem ?

just wonder if you add tab water to your tank .. eventually it will become 6.4 ?

Can i put snail into the crs tank ? if yes, Any snail can recommend ?

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post Apr 6 2014, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Apr 6 2014, 12:46 AM)
what soil you using ?
snail , ppl put nerite , ramshorn snail with shrimps.
Yes , i change water 10% every week, PH never change from 6.4.
soil buffer not refer to soil thickness , it refer soil as a medium that can hold and lower/up the ph. for exp. acidic soil like ADA amazonia/Benibachi shrimp soil will lower PH , coral sand will increase/up PH.
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I not sure what brand is mine. But it is cheap price and not ADA kind of soil. I buy wrong soil shoild be since u say ADA can keep ph 6.4 even add tap water . How long normally the soil age can last for crs tank ?
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post Apr 6 2014, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Apr 6 2014, 12:18 PM)
ADA soil, at least 2yrs, benibachi around 1-2yrs depend on your filter system.
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Do you means depend on how dirty of substrate to determine age of soil since you say depend on filter system ? Ur crs tank got fish ? I find worn in my tank . Thinking if got small fish can eat worm. But the fish shall not eat shrimp

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post Apr 6 2014, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Apr 6 2014, 06:12 PM)
Nope, if your filter system is powerful like using high powered canister filter , the soil properties will be filter out faster and depleted resulting
in buffering power depleted faster.
for example , in one of my tank , i use UGF combine with canister filter , the shrimp soil i use the buffering power only last 1yrs++,
where else another tank with UGF & sponge filter only, it last 2yrs++.

Fish, follow the rule, if shrimplet size fit the fish mouth, it will eat them. So get the smallest fish you can, like guppy/swordtail baby.
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how your justify the age of soil is expire soon ?determine from your ph ? Since you say soil buffer and make contant 6.4 . So I am assume soil going expire make cause ph higher. Corect me if I am wrong . The UGF you use comnect with canister or just purely air accelerator ?

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post Apr 7 2014, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Apr 7 2014, 12:00 AM)
Yes, sign of soil expiry is losing buffering power which mean, ph, gh and tds will run and fluctuate with every water change.
my ugf is air pump driven.
That why the higher grade of crs you keep the more you to be precise with your setup.
even basic setup for crs cant runaway from maintaining proper ph, gh , tds and temperature. This is one of the main reason why crs is never a beginner shrimp.
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Ic, erm ...a wrongly setup at early state miss lead by the shop owner.between I found is hard to find quality ugf . Any shop can intro ? I bough wrong soil and wrong setup. It make quite costly to me on this. Because my is 3ft tank. Erm..... what you put on top of ugf first layer ? You put lava rock or small rock ?

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