Ohh I see. Thanks.

Do u mean 24-70? 2470 + 70200 will be better than 18200 if u have the money...

exquisite_markas

Thanks for your reply bro!

Better in what sense bro? How come 18-70 no good ohh? 18-105 lehh?

D7100 is a huge leap compare to D90

checked your post, seems like you never have DSLR before, i suggest get a body + kit lens good enough, after that you slowly will find what you need afterwards,

This post has been edited by Agito666: Oct 11 2013, 02:03 PM

lol thanks its kit lens...

using d3200 kit lens f/3.5 only...

The D90 is a bit too old tech for the price, not recommended
The D7100, on the other hand, is very new, but still quite similar in terms of performance (for normal photography) to its predecessor the D7000; get that one instead since its much cheaper. Leaving you with more money for other stuffs i.e. lenses, accessories etc.

If you are still new, just stick to the 18-105mm kitlens
With its wide focal length and decent image quality, it will expose you to the fundamentals of photography, as well as different genre of photography e.g. landscape, portrait, nature, "macro" etc. After you have used the 18-105mm kitlens for some time, you will eventually know which genre of photography you like the most, and from there only you invest in better lenses specific for it

Haha, thanks man, just the blings on my old notebook

In general, you will get more/better background bokeh by:
1) Using larger aperture (lower F value)
2) Focusing your main subject as close as you can i.e. minimum distance where the focusing still works

Yaya, listen to agito666 sifu

he don't have budget problem so just push to D7100 only

bb100
here is my old 18-70 kit lens + D70s shot, hope can help in "bokeh" term you said




This post has been edited by Agito666: Oct 11 2013, 02:09 PM

I start shoot with P last month, now I'm on Aperture mode.. take step slowly..
I totally can't function M mode now.. much to understand on the lightning condition..

i switch to M when want play light painting
or when A mode is not reliable

Take it slow bro haha, these things cannot rush one
I shot in P mode for quite a long time before jumping to M haha, and I was totally confused that time too XD

Like what agito666 sifu mentioned, M mode is more for playing with lighting. I didn't understand this until very recently. Before this I was wondering why we even need to shoot in M mode when there's A mode LOL XD

Then I noticed many Westerners or pro strobists love to take artistic photos with little light, but ALOT of shadows, that's where M mode comes in since at that mode, the camera doesn't keep on wanting to properly expose the photo for you

No, the lens is not just about bokeh. If you think it's all about bokeh, then you're sorely misinformed about it's capabilities.

It's about how the lens renders images in low light when it's designed primarily for wide open performance. They don't call the lens NOCT (as in NOCTurnal) for nothing.

Some write up.

http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardw...mnotcnikkor.htm

http://www.momentcorp.com/review/nikon_noct-nikkor_58mm.html

D90 no more in production. Get the one you can afford. The D7100 is the best Nikon DX / crop body out there at the moment which means most expensive too.

18-70 kit lens is also no more in production if I'm not wrong. For convenience, 18-200 is nice but as with most extreme zooms, the trade off in quality.

70-200mm f/2.8 is a lot of money and heavy too. But if you're serious about speed and pic quality, this is a pro level lens that will not disappoint.

A cheaper option would be the older Nikon AF-D 80-200mm f/2.8 or Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 that has OS (optical stabilisation) option.

Longest lens (focal length), nearest to subject and widest / biggest lens aperture. All in that order to get your wonderful buttery background bokeh.

Usually people start with the cheap 50mm f/1.8 lens for bokeh experiments.

24-70mm f/2.8 will be ok in terms of quality on DX but may not be wide enough.

Thanks for your reply pal! Yep, I am currently having an advanced compact in Nikon P7100. Would like to upgrade to a DSLR.

Ohh I see. Thanks for the info bro!

Ahhhhh, good advice from the pro. Thanks man!

exquisite_markas Nahh, this is how to get bokeh.

You used auto or manual focus bro?

Thanks for the useful info bro!


If I wanna get D90, it will be a used set with relatively low SC...like 5000 or so.

By the way bro, D7100 got autofocus motor wan ahh?

This post has been edited by bb100: Oct 11 2013, 02:22 PM

when shooting with M mode, you gotta look at the exposure meter.

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by the way its fun to see almost all DSLR newcomers will look at the bokeh first lol. actually sometimes the bokeh can be distracting, or difficult to nail focus point due to thin DOF.

auto, that 8 years tech already got auto focus.

D90 impossible can get SC 9000 right now lol i think la... i think normally is like 15-30k XD

D3100,3200,5100,5200 only don't have auto-focus motor, D7000 or D7100 got. you can consider cheaper and older 1 gen D7000 for DSLR also can, it is still decent.

and you no need worry about that since kit lens already got motor inside.
AS IF you buy older D version lens then you can start worry about that. usually lens you will aiming for are the G version which is already got motor inside.

I also like light painting.

Here's mine.



Using compact only not pro (enough) yet to jump into DLSR.

In Sinkaporku I can find quite a number of D90s with SC <10k and body in mint condition. But I am not sure wanna buy or not lehh, cuz D90 with its kit lens attached feels very the heavy.

So D7000 also OK lahh is it? I wanna buy those body got motor wan cuz lens with motor very the expensive.

true.. i also start looking at BOKEH at first, then my friend slap me and say : 'your focus can't even get it right, and want to BOLEH'

LOL

seems like you gotta read this
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/nikortek.htm