QUOTE(Pro3363 @ Oct 10 2013, 02:32 PM)
price also BETTER too The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.22, NEW RUMORE Nikon DF!
The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.22, NEW RUMORE Nikon DF!
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Oct 10 2013, 02:41 PM
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Oct 10 2013, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 10 2013, 09:48 AM) That said, I will definitely keep my D800 and use it for macro, portraits and everything else~ but I'm definitely not bringing it on a vacation For vacation, I want to be able to bring my best tools to capture my precious memories the best way I can. What do I take? The D800 of course. QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 10 2013, 09:58 AM) Really depends what the person wanna achieve and use the camera for. I agree. For those who only shoot to record shots for FB and blogs, camera from the handphone is more than suffice. Heck, my 13MP Note 3 is fantastic for this. 4k video recording to boot. Decline in DSLR, it's always happening, many people buy DSLR, excited and bring it everywhere they go the first time, and slowly, the DSLR went into the cupboard and they use their mobile phones. Even digital camera are troublesome to carry around with you all the time. Those never use DSLR will want to get one because they think only DSLR can get good image quality, but after getting, only they know, they're many others thing they need to know and learn, and more maintenance on the DSLR, etc. To many, the camera they use is for taking food or something they see, you don't need a DSLR for that, and if they bought it, most likely they will not want to bring it around later. Another scenario is they take for shooting small family events, gatherings, small parties, etc. You also don't need a DSLR for that and it's troublesome to carry around, moreover, without knowing how to use it, they still get blur shots for movement/action when using A mode, harder to share, etc. Someone using smartphone may already taken the shot and shared it, or send to others. I notice many media/journalist (auto blogs/magazines) already using smaller mirrorless camera, it's much much more convenient for them to carry around, with much smaller bags, and more convenient for them to move around and squeeze through the crowd to get that shot. You may carry a DSLR, but if you can get the shot or angle you wanted, it become pretty pointless. So it's no surprise that media / journalist can rely on mirrorless cameras or even handphone cameras to cut down cost. Heck, back then magazines still survive with 8MP pics and even 4MP for 2 page layout. My gripe with mirrorless is not because of their quality. They satisfy certain market of people who want to go light but yet give reasonable performance. What I dislike is their pricing. QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 10 2013, 10:19 AM) Wow, the thread seems to be active these days. Damn, I way too long didn't lepak inside here liao. Yeah, for those who think the D800 is too much MP or too much money, the D610 is a good compromise.With now D610 announced, that could be under my consideration for FF body than the D800. Who else potentially getting it as well? QUOTE(Pro3363 @ Oct 10 2013, 02:32 PM) D800 is still better with 51 AF points and better body Poison lah you ! |
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Oct 10 2013, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Oct 10 2013, 02:42 PM) I agree. For those who only shoot to record shots for FB and blogs, camera from the handphone is more than suffice. Heck, my 13MP Note 3 is fantastic for this. 4k video recording to boot. True, I dislike their pricing too, heheSo it's no surprise that media / journalist can rely on mirrorless cameras or even handphone cameras to cut down cost. Heck, back then magazines still survive with 8MP pics and even 4MP for 2 page layout. My gripe with mirrorless is not because of their quality. They satisfy certain market of people who want to go light but yet give reasonable performance. What I dislike is their pricing. But the Nikon1 V1, drops half price (package) with the launch of Nikon1 V2. That's a good price |
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Oct 10 2013, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 10 2013, 03:29 PM) True, I dislike their pricing too, hehe Yes, but can we still find the V1? Sneaky Nikon buggers quickly took them off the shelf once the V2 came out or still sold them at old retail pricing. But the Nikon1 V1, drops half price (package) with the launch of Nikon1 V2. That's a good price |
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Oct 10 2013, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Oct 10 2013, 03:37 PM) Yes, but can we still find the V1? Sneaky Nikon buggers quickly took them off the shelf once the V2 came out or still sold them at old retail pricing. During that time promotion, I still saw some shops selling it (e.g. Harvey Norman). I guess while stock last, heheOther shops not sure still got or not.... but after checking out V2 looks and features, V1 seems less interesting already |
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Oct 10 2013, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Oct 10 2013, 02:42 PM) For vacation, I want to be able to bring my best tools to capture my precious memories the best way I can. What do I take? The D800 of course. Funny how I used to think like that as well haha In the end I think, to me those special moments are more important than capturing them haha~ Its not like the current mirrorless cameras are that bad la haha, but a compact camera is definitely a NO NO for me haha Say so much in the end I still only have a DSLR to bring around haha |
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Oct 10 2013, 05:27 PM
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Oct 10 2013, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 9 2013, 06:30 PM) The Sony RX100 or its successor seemed pretty gooding, even so when paired to an underwater casing for underwater shots Yes, I was looking at it for light underwater usage like snorkeling etc. But alas there's too many hobbies for not enough time and money. QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 9 2013, 07:10 PM) That's the issue when I'm trying to supress the light going through the lens Makes sense. D800 AF is more superior than D700 especially with the AF down to -2EV. Anyway, general performance of AF is affected by amount of light. The more light there is, the more efficient the AF can work.70200+CPL is ok most of the time, 70200+TC2 acceptable, 70200+TC2+CPL --> this one pretty dodgy... better on the D800, but on D700 not as reliable hunts more. Now that you mentioned, don't know how the AF-S 80-400 will perform when you add CPL / ND filter... QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 9 2013, 08:19 PM) Yalo, check out s7ran9er's gf's photos here: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2725435 Colours for Fuji sensors have always been amazing back in the S3 and S5 days (the one based on D100 and D200 body respectively).The colors and details are simply amazing~ Retro design quite nice too Actually, you can always install a curve inside Picture Style that emulates the Fuji. QUOTE(ifer @ Oct 10 2013, 08:46 AM) seriously? How can you not resist the NOCT? why? |
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Oct 10 2013, 07:43 PM
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For vacation. A full frame (d800 or d700 or any). Grip. plus 28mm and 50mm enough.
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Oct 10 2013, 07:52 PM
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Oct 10 2013, 07:59 PM
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still learning all the setting on the dslr lot of setting
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Oct 10 2013, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(silrave @ Oct 10 2013, 07:59 PM) Imho, learning all the settings at once will be a bit too much hahaJust stick to Program (P) mode 1st and go out and shoot, learn to compose your photos; everything else will come along later as long as you keep on shooting mate |
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Oct 10 2013, 08:06 PM
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haha XD
so just stick with the P and start shoot? lol i try few pic nice may be need to go some nice environment only can start take new pic XD change back to jpeg first XD |
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Oct 10 2013, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE(Reckoning @ Oct 10 2013, 07:43 PM) Yeah, with what I have now, I would prefer only bringing the body and 24-70mm only next time.Will no longer bring the 50mm, tripod and flash anymore. I'd rather improvise than having brokeback with the gears For landscape shots can just get something to rest the DSLR on. With a tripod mount attach to the body + lens with lens cap, the entire camera can "stand" perfectly linear and stable XD For night shots can use handphone torchlight to bounce light from walls/ people with white shirt LOL If only I have a mirrorless XD Still, long time to go before my next trip~ Still editing my photos from Phuket |
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Oct 10 2013, 08:12 PM
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wan to ask i put s mode and i set the shutter speed to the lowest
but cant take the pic like rain slow drop those pic de? am i need to do other setting as well |
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Oct 10 2013, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(silrave @ Oct 10 2013, 08:06 PM) haha XD Yes, shoot with P first since you are still very new so just stick with the P and start shoot? lol i try few pic nice may be need to go some nice environment only can start take new pic XD change back to jpeg first XD And try shooting out in the sun (7-9am or 5-7pm are very good times for good photos), your photos will be better, with less tendency to become blurred. With P mode, you will notice your photos will mostly be blurred under dimmed conditions (indoors/night shooting etc.), its normal. From there you will notice that the DSLR is pretty "stupid" in P mode, enticing you to jump to S (shutter speed) or A (aperture) modes or even manual if you are a very fast learner haha XD but those are one or a few level up haha, don't worry about that 1st And yes, shoot in JPEG 1st, until you have some clue on what is post-processing haha! Share your photos, and keep photos that you think are very good at that particular point in time. One day you will look back at them and feel nostalgic (and will probably laugh at yourself), its a very fun process, so remember to enjoy it |
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Oct 10 2013, 08:18 PM
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haiz i shoot more than 10 pic today .... not nice xD
wait next time i only share xD |
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Oct 10 2013, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Oct 10 2013, 07:52 PM) QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 10 2013, 08:11 PM) Yeah, with what I have now, I would prefer only bringing the body and 24-70mm only next time. haha Will no longer bring the 50mm, tripod and flash anymore. I'd rather improvise than having brokeback with the gears For landscape shots can just get something to rest the DSLR on. With a tripod mount attach to the body + lens with lens cap, the entire camera can "stand" perfectly linear and stable XD For night shots can use handphone torchlight to bounce light from walls/ people with white shirt LOL If only I have a mirrorless XD Still, long time to go before my next trip~ Still editing my photos from Phuket maybe my next trip to dubai this jan, i will try bring my d700 grip and 24-70mm. see how it goes. or myabe if i have my money, buy a 28mm and go with 28mm and 50mm only |
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Oct 10 2013, 09:17 PM
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Oct 10 2013, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(Reckoning @ Oct 10 2013, 09:16 PM) haha Curious, which cheap mirrorless you bought? maybe my next trip to dubai this jan, i will try bring my d700 grip and 24-70mm. see how it goes. or myabe if i have my money, buy a 28mm and go with 28mm and 50mm only Recent cheap ones like the NEX3n can really perform very well in terms of IQ and noise performance; sometimes even better than my previous D90 I think. Time flies! Wah, Dubai is very beautifullei!! Looking forward to your photos |
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