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post Oct 1 2013, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(seather @ Sep 30 2013, 12:34 PM)
any ideas what filter brands are available for the 14-24 f2.8?? specially GND & ND....

so far i know only of 3 brands
1) LEE
2) Hitech lucrOIT
3) Fotodiox Pro Wonderpana

only LEE is available in Malaysia.. the other 2 have to buy and ship from overseas..

LEE is available in Malaysia and well known
Fotodiox has CPL but can't rotate the filter head
Hitech is newest to the block... can rotate but no CPL...
Yes, pretty much spot on. Was looking at the alternatives before decided on the Wonderpana 66. I think you can get the Hitech at YL Camera.

Anyway, got the Wonderpana for my 14-24mm f/2.8 a month ago direct from Fotodiox website. Shipping was reasonable via USPS and pretty quick. All mounts are machined aluminum. Very nice quality. Comes with the system holder which you can screw in 145mm Fotodiox Pro CPL or UV filter (for those kiasu people) firmly in front of your lens, an aluminum bracket which you can hold the square Fotodiox Pro 6.6" Graduated ND filters (can stack two square GNDs at one time) and a huge pinch type 145mm lens cap. The kit comes bundled with Fotodiox 6.6"x8.5" 0.9 (3-Stop) Hard Edge Graduated Neutral Density Filter and 145mm Circular Polarizer (CPL) filter, To answer your question, yes the 145mm CPL does rotate.

Also got a step up 77mm ring so that I can use the Wonderpana setup on my other 77mm lenses.

This thing when set up is VERY huge. But the reason for it being huge is so that it does not vignette at 14mm on full frame. Hope I can use it more often. Pokai already after buying this and getting a CF tripod / ballhead.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 30 2013, 03:11 PM)
talk about sending camera to service, i sent my camera in 11-9-13 (KLCC) and until now still dont have a single call from them  vmad.gif
well next time i should send to BTS instead KLCC  sweat.gif
no matter my working place is near there or not...
You should send directly to Wisma PKNS no matter working place near or not.

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Going for this one already?

QUOTE(kennexionz @ Oct 1 2013, 12:15 AM)
I miss the weather there sooo much!!  Your first trip there?
thanks  blush.gif  ...

The below even more pp-ed to bring out the dramatic effect... hahaha

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Nice. So many times I go Bali but could never get a chance to shoot dramatic Uluwatu sunset. sad.gif


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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 1 2013, 01:29 AM)
Haha, well... part of the "want" list, hahaha
Nahh, not for me. Just like the Polo, too small to be practical and too expensive. If I had the money and was looking for a hot hatch, I would pay a little more for the CBU Mazda3 MPS with a more practical 4 door, higher torque and still with a manual stick. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(seather @ Oct 1 2013, 11:04 AM)
Did u purchase the FreeArc one? hmm.gif

http://fotodioxpro.com/index.php/wonderpan...ntials-kit.html

from i read so far, in the original WonderPana, you can't rotate the square filters..

USD500 for a basic kit will really break the bank.sweat.gif but some effects can't be achieved in PP...
No. I think the FreeArc one came out just after I received mine.

Anyway, I was looking at it and indeed it's a nice extra feature but then told myself in what occasions would I need my square filter to be slanted? Most of the time it's flat horizontal.

Would want to use it more often to get back the ROI (if there is such a thing with hobbies sweat.gif ). But yes, in that respect, the 16-35mm f/4 is better in that respect when considering filters.
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QUOTE(gerald7 @ Oct 5 2013, 03:30 PM)
dirty bird

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That's not just a dirty bird. It's a dirty kingfisher !

Nice catch. Not easy to get.

QUOTE(silrave @ Oct 5 2013, 11:26 PM)
Haha cause today I just went there and check
Tomorrow only go lowyat n buy
But dunno real or not one seller offer rm 1.4k with kit lens and say is ori Nikon Malaysia warranty dunno real or not Haiz
If you have not bought yet, why not wait till Kuala Lumpur Photography Festival (KLPF) at MidValley next weekend.

Can get yourself confused futher. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(alpha001 @ Oct 6 2013, 10:58 AM)
actually rain is the best weather to take photographs, the moody sky will be dramatic wink.gif
Air is clearer and haze free too.
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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Oct 6 2013, 11:49 AM)
Hello! Long time no see!
Me? Always around. Just not frequent enough to be top poster. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 6 2013, 12:53 PM)
can tell me more about KLPF?

edited: nevermind, thought it is like PC fair... it is exibition for photos?  hmm.gif
Yeah, a bit like PC Fair. But nowadays they incorporate a lot of photography talks and a bit of photo exhibition from pros. Good for beginners.

If I'm not wrong, that's also the time when Nikon gives free sensor cleaning.

QUOTE(gerald7 @ Oct 6 2013, 01:15 PM)
dirty kingfisher ... flightless... my friend picked it up on the floor.. I got within 1 feet to take the picture..
Must be injured? These kingfishers need 600mm at least on FF to get a decent capture. Most of the time, have to crop. They make a distinctive call and I always know when they are around. They always perch on the tree branch at the back of my old house. Not the best perching branch. They are also very skittish and will fly at the very sight of a human.

My heavily cropped shots;

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Oct 9 2013, 01:01 AM)
Came here to share some poison biggrin.gif
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Anything special that we are suppose to see?

QUOTE(ifer @ Oct 9 2013, 08:37 AM)
Should have called it D600s and Nikon will not get as many sticks as now

On the other hand, the Carl Zeiss Distagon 55mm f1.4 lens (OTUS) is announced...

Diglloyd says 'The rewarding thing about the 55/1.4 APO-Distagon is that the visual impact is first and foremost about the transparency and three-dimensionality. The resolving power is a sense a bonus effect for those with high-res camera.'

And more importantly 'You really, really, really want this lens more than any lens you ever lusted over.'

Carl Zeiss OTUS 55mm f1.4 lens
Yes, I saw the Zeiss announcement on email. I told myself yes given the modern glass treatment on the Zeiss etc, with the kind of money they are asking for it, I might as well go for the Nikon Noct 58mm f/1.2.

QUOTE(Reckoning @ Oct 9 2013, 08:46 AM)
Morning. Im in the wedding photography business. Do you guys think upgrading my D700 to D800 worth it?
If you feel your business can cover for it, why not?

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 9 2013, 10:40 AM)
So far I think for wedding actual day, I think getting another D700 would work better.

Somehow I prefer my D700 over D800 for actual wedding day... the D800 is less tolerant to shakes.
biggrin.gif Yes, buy more VR lenses to avoid shake. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Reckoning @ Oct 9 2013, 11:03 AM)
Ok thanks. I have the budget for the camera only.
Because the most disturbing part is i saw 32gb is only 400 raw photos for D800. I need to upgrade pc again later. D700, 16gb i cant get 1000+ raw photos. Imagine the hard drive i need to store those.
That is gila weh  rclxub.gif  But D700 is good enough for now. Just that 36mp seems very attractive to me.
File size? No pain no gain. Computers are getting faster and hardisk are also getting bigger for the same prices. Same goes for CF cards.

At the end of the day, if your business needs to expand and if these extra expenses can be justified in the returns, then like I said, why not...

QUOTE(Reckoning @ Oct 9 2013, 11:03 AM)
Tolerant to shakes? explain please.
D700 = 12MP. D800 = 36MP. The D800 has a higher pixel density for the same physical full frame sensor area 36 x 24mm. A camera with a higher pixel density is less tolerant to camera shakes as compared to lower pixel density camera body. If you can comfortably shoot 1/200s for 200mm focal length on the D700, you may want to consider higher shutter speed 1/400 or even 1/800 as every minute and tiny camera shake will be amplified on the high density sensor.

Because of this high pixel density on the D800, it demands higher quality lenses to be used as any lens imperfections will be magnified. High pixel density sensor also means noisier pictures at pixel level. But when you resize the D800 picture to the same size as the D700 and start to compare noise, the D800 is better. Sometimes it is as good as D3s / D4, if not better.

QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 9 2013, 11:08 AM)
You can do lossless compression so that 32GB SD card can store close to 800 shots nod.gif

And yes, you will need much more processing power for smooth photo editing laugh.gif Otherwise will headache lol laugh.gif
The 36MP means much better cropping potential, very useful if you are into cropping since one photo can be edited into 2 or 3 different variants depending on "magnification"  tongue.gif

I think what celciuz sifu meant is that since its 36MP, shots get blurred really easily when viewed at 100%, but that's on 100% la haha  tongue.gif
For me, the D800 36MP size is a bonus when trying to print big. Usually extreme cropping is not done for weddings but I may be wrong. The one thing that should be a primary reason for wedding photographers to upgrade to D800 is the excellent dynamic range.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 9 2013, 11:16 AM)
what he mean is you use 50mm f/1.8 shoot opposite girl bath cropping out 90% of photo also no problem because 36mp is big  brows.gif
Wedding photography does not equal voyeurism. laugh.gif

QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Oct 9 2013, 01:43 PM)
This is approaching the paranoid level already I think, most camera shops are air conditioned, hardly a suitable environment for fungus la, even with the lens/body exposed for some time.  doh.gif

I think with open box units you should be more worried about ex-prospective buyers abusing the lens in store, but then again most lenses are made to last, not get messed up with 5 minutes of handling.
LOL + 1

QUOTE(cawan @ Oct 9 2013, 01:43 PM)
hi,

i just want an advice. any one have an advantage for using 35mm over 50mm lens?
Very subjective ! It's like asking coffee or tea !

Test drive and see which is more comfortable for you.

What body are you using?
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 9 2013, 01:57 PM)
Nice explanation on the shake-intolerance, easy to understand  thumbup.gif

Yeah, I suppose those who are experienced with wedding photography don't do too much cropping also  laugh.gif But still a good feature to have I think hehe~ Never used a D700 before, is the D800 much better in terms of dynamic range? hmm.gif But no doubt the DR on the D800 is crazy la haha  wub.gif  wub.gif
Yes, the D800 does not just have better dynamic range compared to the D700 but the best dynamic range period. If I'm not wrong, it's something like 14EV vs 12EV (D800 vs D700).
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QUOTE(Pro3363 @ Oct 9 2013, 02:41 PM)
If u shoot sports, D700 will be a better choice... thumbup.gif
With MB-D10 battery grip, yes.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 9 2013, 03:52 PM)
Another thing to note is the diffraction limit for D800 vs. D700. If I remember correctly, D800 is at f/8, D700 at f/16. (I could be wrong... but its around there).

Also to add on, D800 and D7000 is pretty similar pixel density. Oh yes the new D7100, 24MP DX? I wonder what's their diffraction limit like... f/5.6 maybe?
I think we only need to worry about diffraction when shooting landscape. But even then on wide angles, f/8 will already get you everything is focus.

If really on the limit of DoF like say on macro subjects, use focus stacking. Nowadays with Camranger and Ipad, you have a nice way of viewing on a big screen while selecting / shooting different focus points and best part without touching / moving your camera setup for perfect stacking.

For bright day time sports when using slow shutter speed, no choice but to invest in a 2 or 3 stop ND filter.

QUOTE(Pro3363 @ Oct 9 2013, 04:46 PM)
U can get it bro laugh.gif  U already have 24-70... Then during year end, u buy 70-200 and next year buy 14-24... laugh.gif
Can get all at one go what... whistling.gif Painful but only one time. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Pro3363 @ Oct 9 2013, 04:46 PM)
But to be honest, I dont really like the 14-24... I prefer the 16-35
Why? No filter?

QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 9 2013, 05:03 PM)
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I don't think so haha, just because its holy trinity doesn't mean they are must haves  laugh.gif
I'm already complaining so much about the weight with only the 24-70 LOL, I'll die if I get the other two XD
I'm getting a 105mm macro lens and that's it for my setup 

Don't really fancy shooting landscapes so don't really need a very good wide angle lens; and I think I can live with not having super long range lenses too haha laugh.gif
Just get f/1.4 trinity. biggrin.gif

24mm f/1.4
35mm f/1.4
85mm f/1.4

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 9 2013, 06:11 PM)
85mm F1.4 gooding yo!  wub.gif  wub.gif 
But no money for these goodies haha
I'd better just invest in a mirrorless to save my back  laugh.gif
Don't know about you but mirrorless quality still leaves me wanting more. sad.gif Especially after paying so much for it.

If really want to save the back, I would rather forgo everything and simply rely on a cili padi like the Sony RX100. Really light weight and relatively superb performance from a small sensor.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 9 2013, 06:13 PM)
That's the part I butthurt the most sad.gif My panning shots at Sepang haih. 70200+TC2+CPL can make the AF hunt at times already :S.
Unfortunately, there's no free lunch with the TC2 especially on a zoom. You get decent performance when paired with primes like the 200, 300 etc.

Another option for long lens is to go for the new AF-S 80-400mm. Focus is quite fast. Apparently performs better than 70-200mm + TC2. But it's a whopping RM 7k plus. sweat.gif

I believe Albert posts some samples of it from time to time.
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 10 2013, 09:48 AM)
That said, I will definitely keep my D800 and use it for macro, portraits and everything else~ but I'm definitely not bringing it on a vacation  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
For vacation, I want to be able to bring my best tools to capture my precious memories the best way I can. What do I take? The D800 of course. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 10 2013, 09:58 AM)
Really depends what the person wanna achieve and use the camera for.

Decline in DSLR, it's always happening, many people buy DSLR, excited and bring it everywhere they go the first time, and slowly, the DSLR went into the cupboard and they use their mobile phones.
Even digital camera are troublesome to carry around with you all the time.
Those never use DSLR will want to get one because they think only DSLR can get good image quality, but after getting, only they know, they're many others thing they need to know and learn, and more maintenance on the DSLR, etc.

To many, the camera they use is for taking food or something they see, you don't need a DSLR for that, and if they bought it, most likely they will not want to bring it around later. Another scenario is they take for shooting small family events, gatherings, small parties, etc. You also don't need a DSLR for that and it's troublesome to carry around, moreover, without knowing how to use it, they still get blur shots for movement/action when using A mode, harder to share, etc. Someone using smartphone may already taken the shot and shared it, or send to others.

I notice many media/journalist (auto blogs/magazines) already using smaller mirrorless camera, it's much much more convenient for them to carry around, with much smaller bags, and more convenient for them to move around and squeeze through the crowd to get that shot. You may carry a DSLR, but if you can get the shot or angle you wanted, it become pretty pointless.
I agree. For those who only shoot to record shots for FB and blogs, camera from the handphone is more than suffice. Heck, my 13MP Note 3 is fantastic for this. 4k video recording to boot. brows.gif

So it's no surprise that media / journalist can rely on mirrorless cameras or even handphone cameras to cut down cost. Heck, back then magazines still survive with 8MP pics and even 4MP for 2 page layout.

My gripe with mirrorless is not because of their quality. They satisfy certain market of people who want to go light but yet give reasonable performance. What I dislike is their pricing.

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 10 2013, 10:19 AM)
Wow, the thread seems to be active these days. Damn, I way too long didn't lepak inside here liao.

With now D610 announced, that could be under my consideration for FF body than the D800. Who else potentially getting it as well? smile.gif
Yeah, for those who think the D800 is too much MP or too much money, the D610 is a good compromise.

QUOTE(Pro3363 @ Oct 10 2013, 02:32 PM)
D800 is still better with 51 AF points and better body thumbup.gif
Poison lah you ! biggrin.gif But the truth hurts.
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 10 2013, 03:29 PM)
True, I dislike their pricing too, hehe

But the Nikon1 V1, drops half price (package) with the launch of Nikon1 V2. That's a good price  tongue.gif
Yes, but can we still find the V1? Sneaky Nikon buggers quickly took them off the shelf once the V2 came out or still sold them at old retail pricing. rolleyes.gif At least in US, you could still find them around at DISCOUNTED prices for a month or two. Now no more I think.
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 9 2013, 06:30 PM)
The Sony RX100 or its successor seemed pretty gooding, even so when paired to an underwater casing for underwater shots  drool.gif
Yes, I was looking at it for light underwater usage like snorkeling etc. But alas there's too many hobbies for not enough time and money. cry.gif

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 9 2013, 07:10 PM)
That's the issue when I'm trying to supress the light going through the lens sad.gif

70200+CPL is ok most of the time, 70200+TC2 acceptable, 70200+TC2+CPL --> this one pretty dodgy... better on the D800, but on D700 not as reliable hunts more.
Makes sense. D800 AF is more superior than D700 especially with the AF down to -2EV. Anyway, general performance of AF is affected by amount of light. The more light there is, the more efficient the AF can work.

Now that you mentioned, don't know how the AF-S 80-400 will perform when you add CPL / ND filter... hmm.gif

QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 9 2013, 08:19 PM)
Yalo, check out s7ran9er's gf's photos here: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2725435
The colors and details are simply amazing~
Retro design quite nice too  wub.gif
Colours for Fuji sensors have always been amazing back in the S3 and S5 days (the one based on D100 and D200 body respectively).

Actually, you can always install a curve inside Picture Style that emulates the Fuji.

QUOTE(ifer @ Oct 10 2013, 08:46 AM)
seriously?
why?
How can you not resist the NOCT? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Oct 10 2013, 07:52 PM)
Lol? You can't say like that la, you know how much a d800/d700 weights after adding a battery grip?
I'm sure as a wedding shooter himself, he's aware of the weight of battery grip. smile.gif

QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 10 2013, 08:11 PM)
Yeah, with what I have now, I would prefer only bringing the body and 24-70mm only next time.
Will no longer bring the 50mm, tripod and flash anymore. I'd rather improvise than having brokeback with the gears  laugh.gif

For landscape shots can just get something to rest the DSLR on. With a tripod mount attach to the body + lens with lens cap, the entire camera can "stand" perfectly linear and stable XD
The trick to lugging heavy stuff during trips is having lighter accessories like CF tripod and better ballheads and have different camera bags to suite different configurations and gears. sweat.gif rclxm9.gif

More camera bags ! Yes. nod.gif

QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 10 2013, 08:15 PM)
Yes, shoot with P first since you are still very new nod.gif

And try shooting out in the sun (7-9am or 5-7pm are very good times for good photos), your photos will be better, with less tendency to become blurred.
With P mode, you will notice your photos will mostly be blurred under dimmed conditions (indoors/night shooting etc.), its normal.
To aid in low light slow shutter shooting, you will need to mount your camera on a tripod.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 11 2013, 12:47 AM)
Nikon 1AW1?  hmm.gif
Berapa harga? I'm afraid that if I have to ask, I would not be able to afford it. sad.gif

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QUOTE(ifer @ Oct 11 2013, 11:39 AM)
ok got it.
for you it is all about bokeh  notworthy.gif
No, the lens is not just about bokeh. If you think it's all about bokeh, then you're sorely misinformed about it's capabilities.

It's about how the lens renders images in low light when it's designed primarily for wide open performance. They don't call the lens NOCT (as in NOCTurnal) for nothing.

Some write up.

http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardw...mnotcnikkor.htm

http://www.momentcorp.com/review/nikon_noct-nikkor_58mm.html

QUOTE(bb100 @ Oct 11 2013, 12:54 PM)
Hi, all.

Can you guys please give me advice on which camera to have? D7100 or D90?

And what about lenses? Is it advisable to get 18-70 and 70-200 or one shot 18-200?

=add=

Or 18-105 and 105-300?
D90 no more in production. Get the one you can afford. The D7100 is the best Nikon DX / crop body out there at the moment which means most expensive too.

18-70 kit lens is also no more in production if I'm not wrong. For convenience, 18-200 is nice but as with most extreme zooms, the trade off in quality.

70-200mm f/2.8 is a lot of money and heavy too. But if you're serious about speed and pic quality, this is a pro level lens that will not disappoint.

A cheaper option would be the older Nikon AF-D 80-200mm f/2.8 or Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 that has OS (optical stabilisation) option.

QUOTE(bb100 @ Oct 11 2013, 01:04 PM)
BOKEH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO BEAUTIFUL BOKEH!!!

How to make those bro??? Need very large aperture?
Longest lens (focal length), nearest to subject and widest / biggest lens aperture. All in that order to get your wonderful buttery background bokeh.

Usually people start with the cheap 50mm f/1.8 lens for bokeh experiments.

QUOTE(Pro3363 @ Oct 11 2013, 01:24 PM)
Do u mean 24-70? 2470 + 70200 will be better than 18200 if u have the money...
24-70mm f/2.8 will be ok in terms of quality on DX but may not be wide enough.
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Oct 11 2013, 03:03 PM)
Hi, everyone here, any Sifu here can recommend me what camera I should buy? I wanted to start learn take good photo as hobby, but I'm new to photography. So any model you guys can recommend to buy? I prefer some basic which is no need to change lens, so that I can learn toward more before I move to the next level. Budget would be start from 1.5k and 2.5k range. smile.gif
Sony RX100

QUOTE(Victor3010 @ Oct 11 2013, 03:56 PM)
I just came back from the KLPF, they got the EM-1 for testing! Nothing much, only olympus, sony, sigma worth to see, accessories wise, nothing much too..

RM4999 for Body, RM7499 for body + 12-40 f2.8... 3 years local warranty
Woow. I don't understand. For that kind of money, why would one buy the Oly?

QUOTE(Pro3363 @ Oct 11 2013, 04:51 PM)
Waiting for Sigma 24-70 f2.... rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Oct 13 2013, 10:07 PM)
For a 2.5K lens it had better be good  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  In fact it's better than both canon and nikon's own F/1.4 versions
Yeah, the Sigma is slightly sharper than the Nikon wide open but in terms of bokeh produced, some prefer Nikon's smoother rendition.

No idea on Canon's one though. If I'm not wrong, Canon's version came out first very long time ago. Mark II should be in the works. Same like their 24mm f/1.4.

QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Oct 13 2013, 10:15 PM)
Most macro lenses are primes, rarely are there zoom designs that can reach true macro ranges.
The world's first macro zoom lens...

user posted image

Though a very old lens design and not truly 1:1 lens, it's design truly put Nikon ahead at that time.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 15 2013, 11:34 AM)
Most likely going to price much above the D800, my wallet is already slim >_< if buy this --> anorexic haha!
Some people accept and say anorexic is beautiful ! laugh.gif

QUOTE(gnome @ Oct 15 2013, 12:39 PM)
I kinda like canon's color now. More accurate to real life. Nikon's can look so fake at times laugh.gif
I think either cameras if not cooked correctly, will come out not nice.

QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Oct 15 2013, 01:28 PM)
D700 if I can find one in good condition lo  whistling.gif
What's the going rate of the 2nd hand good condition D700 with 31k plus shutter count?
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 15 2013, 01:59 PM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2847390

anyone got deal with him before  hmm.gif
duno want go penang if got chance...  hmm.gif
Which one are you aiming?

D4 or D800E?

1DX or 5DMkIII? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(exquisite_markas @ Oct 16 2013, 12:28 AM)
Haha... I am also kidding la sifu. biggrin.gif

But the D5100 is not entirely made of metal, some parts are plastic. So should be more rust-resistance.  hmm.gif
True. In the same way you should buy D600 too because it naturally splatters oil so that it's internals parts are guaranteed to get lubricated and this also prevents the metal parts from rusting especially from salt water.
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 16 2013, 11:41 AM)
no matter how much you spam, there is no way you will be faster that golden age nokia N8 thread that like 1 week per thread...
The last I looked, that's what is currently happening to the Note 3 forum.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 16 2013, 11:48 AM)
post counts? pfft.
i in top 10 ok tongue.gif
How you do it la? notworthy.gif

QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Oct 16 2013, 11:25 AM)
icon_rolleyes.gif  maybe bring for Busan Motorshow
Busan is biannual right? Means only in 2015?

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