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 The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.22, NEW RUMORE Nikon DF!

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post Oct 9 2013, 12:24 PM

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*raise hand*

can I have a D800? laugh.gif

anw, last evening took some bracketing burst shots (3 shots, 1 stop)

AF-S and single point.

Problem is, the D7000 tries to refocus on every shots. Hence the second and third shot usually landed OOF.
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post Oct 9 2013, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(s7ran9er @ Oct 9 2013, 12:24 PM)
*raise hand*

can I have a D800? laugh.gif

anw, last evening took some bracketing burst shots (3 shots, 1 stop)

AF-S and single point.

Problem is, the D7000 tries to refocus on every shots. Hence the second and third shot usually landed OOF.
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Taking brackets for landscapes? Try manual focus? hmm.gif

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post Oct 9 2013, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 9 2013, 12:34 PM)
Buy one buy one  brows.gif  brows.gif

Taking brackets for landscapes? Try manual focus?  hmm.gif
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a bit rush because the sun wouldn't wait for us.

Yes, I guess I should train my manual focusing.

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post Oct 9 2013, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(s7ran9er @ Oct 9 2013, 12:41 PM)
a bit rush because the sun wouldn't wait for us.

Yes, I guess I should train my manual focusing.

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post Oct 9 2013, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 9 2013, 12:23 PM)
I'm not sure whether its the same for cameras. But in notebooks, the box will come with a sealed sticker, once torn, its considered opened  hmm.gif

I think there's no real need to worry so much when you buy from reputable sellers  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hmmm... Im bit skeptical. Imagine they just take it right off the shelf and put it in the box and sell it to you. isn't that already exposed to open air for quite some time already? My dad bought a D90 right off the display shelf, and I was like WHAT and so happen it was the last unit. Because can say we dont know how long it has already been exposed right or whether they got properly stored it or anything.

Btw, who are the recommended sellers for Nikon stuff??

Thanks

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Hmmm... Im bit skeptical. Imagine they just take it right off the shelf and put it in the box and sell it to you. isn't that already exposed to open air for quite some time already? My dad bought a D90 right off the display shelf, and I was like WHAT and so happen it was the last unit. Because can say we dont know how long it has already been exposed right or whether they got properly stored it or anything.

Btw, who are the recommended sellers for Nikon stuff??

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That's why its best to buy from trusted sellers nod.gif
You can also check the shutter count if you want to see if its used nod.gif

But whether the seller tampers with the sealed sticker or not really depends on how trustworthy that seller is lo hmm.gif

For Nikon, I usually deal with Yannick Camera: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Yannick-Came...7834827?fref=ts

Can look for digitalfm14 and CreativePhoto in Garage Sales too icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(AuraSapphire @ Oct 9 2013, 01:15 PM)
Hmmm... Im bit skeptical. Imagine they just take it right off the shelf and put it in the box and sell it to you. isn't that already exposed to open air for quite some time already? My dad bought a D90 right off the display shelf, and I was like WHAT and so happen it was the last unit. Because can say we dont know how long it has already been exposed right or whether they got properly stored it or anything.

Btw, who are the recommended sellers for Nikon stuff??

Thanks
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This is approaching the paranoid level already I think, most camera shops are air conditioned, hardly a suitable environment for fungus la, even with the lens/body exposed for some time. doh.gif

I think with open box units you should be more worried about ex-prospective buyers abusing the lens in store, but then again most lenses are made to last, not get messed up with 5 minutes of handling.
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hi,

i just want an advice. any one have an advantage for using 35mm over 50mm lens?
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QUOTE(cawan @ Oct 9 2013, 01:43 PM)
hi,

i just want an advice. any one have an advantage for using 35mm over 50mm lens?
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There's no "advantage" of one focal length over another. It just depends on what you wanna shoot only laugh.gif

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QUOTE(cawan @ Oct 9 2013, 01:43 PM)
hi,

i just want an advice. any one have an advantage for using 35mm over 50mm lens?
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Depends on your camera body.
Are you using DX or FX? laugh.gif
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post Oct 9 2013, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Oct 9 2013, 01:01 AM)
Came here to share some poison biggrin.gif
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Anything special that we are suppose to see?

QUOTE(ifer @ Oct 9 2013, 08:37 AM)
Should have called it D600s and Nikon will not get as many sticks as now

On the other hand, the Carl Zeiss Distagon 55mm f1.4 lens (OTUS) is announced...

Diglloyd says 'The rewarding thing about the 55/1.4 APO-Distagon is that the visual impact is first and foremost about the transparency and three-dimensionality. The resolving power is a sense a bonus effect for those with high-res camera.'

And more importantly 'You really, really, really want this lens more than any lens you ever lusted over.'

Carl Zeiss OTUS 55mm f1.4 lens
Yes, I saw the Zeiss announcement on email. I told myself yes given the modern glass treatment on the Zeiss etc, with the kind of money they are asking for it, I might as well go for the Nikon Noct 58mm f/1.2.

QUOTE(Reckoning @ Oct 9 2013, 08:46 AM)
Morning. Im in the wedding photography business. Do you guys think upgrading my D700 to D800 worth it?
If you feel your business can cover for it, why not?

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 9 2013, 10:40 AM)
So far I think for wedding actual day, I think getting another D700 would work better.

Somehow I prefer my D700 over D800 for actual wedding day... the D800 is less tolerant to shakes.
biggrin.gif Yes, buy more VR lenses to avoid shake. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Reckoning @ Oct 9 2013, 11:03 AM)
Ok thanks. I have the budget for the camera only.
Because the most disturbing part is i saw 32gb is only 400 raw photos for D800. I need to upgrade pc again later. D700, 16gb i cant get 1000+ raw photos. Imagine the hard drive i need to store those.
That is gila weh  rclxub.gif  But D700 is good enough for now. Just that 36mp seems very attractive to me.
File size? No pain no gain. Computers are getting faster and hardisk are also getting bigger for the same prices. Same goes for CF cards.

At the end of the day, if your business needs to expand and if these extra expenses can be justified in the returns, then like I said, why not...

QUOTE(Reckoning @ Oct 9 2013, 11:03 AM)
Tolerant to shakes? explain please.
D700 = 12MP. D800 = 36MP. The D800 has a higher pixel density for the same physical full frame sensor area 36 x 24mm. A camera with a higher pixel density is less tolerant to camera shakes as compared to lower pixel density camera body. If you can comfortably shoot 1/200s for 200mm focal length on the D700, you may want to consider higher shutter speed 1/400 or even 1/800 as every minute and tiny camera shake will be amplified on the high density sensor.

Because of this high pixel density on the D800, it demands higher quality lenses to be used as any lens imperfections will be magnified. High pixel density sensor also means noisier pictures at pixel level. But when you resize the D800 picture to the same size as the D700 and start to compare noise, the D800 is better. Sometimes it is as good as D3s / D4, if not better.

QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 9 2013, 11:08 AM)
You can do lossless compression so that 32GB SD card can store close to 800 shots nod.gif

And yes, you will need much more processing power for smooth photo editing laugh.gif Otherwise will headache lol laugh.gif
The 36MP means much better cropping potential, very useful if you are into cropping since one photo can be edited into 2 or 3 different variants depending on "magnification"  tongue.gif

I think what celciuz sifu meant is that since its 36MP, shots get blurred really easily when viewed at 100%, but that's on 100% la haha  tongue.gif
For me, the D800 36MP size is a bonus when trying to print big. Usually extreme cropping is not done for weddings but I may be wrong. The one thing that should be a primary reason for wedding photographers to upgrade to D800 is the excellent dynamic range.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 9 2013, 11:16 AM)
what he mean is you use 50mm f/1.8 shoot opposite girl bath cropping out 90% of photo also no problem because 36mp is big  brows.gif
Wedding photography does not equal voyeurism. laugh.gif

QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Oct 9 2013, 01:43 PM)
This is approaching the paranoid level already I think, most camera shops are air conditioned, hardly a suitable environment for fungus la, even with the lens/body exposed for some time.  doh.gif

I think with open box units you should be more worried about ex-prospective buyers abusing the lens in store, but then again most lenses are made to last, not get messed up with 5 minutes of handling.
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QUOTE(cawan @ Oct 9 2013, 01:43 PM)
hi,

i just want an advice. any one have an advantage for using 35mm over 50mm lens?
Very subjective ! It's like asking coffee or tea !

Test drive and see which is more comfortable for you.

What body are you using?
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At the end of the day, if your business needs to expand and if these extra expenses can be justified in the returns, then like I said, why not...
D700 = 12MP. D800 = 36MP. The D800 has a higher pixel density for the same physical full frame sensor area 36 x 24mm. A camera with a higher pixel density is less tolerant to camera shakes as compared to lower pixel density camera body. If you can comfortably shoot 1/200s for 200mm focal length on the D700, you may want to consider higher shutter speed 1/400 or even 1/800 as every minute and tiny camera shake will be amplified on the high density sensor.

Because of this high pixel density on the D800, it demands higher quality lenses to be used as any lens imperfections will be magnified. High pixel density sensor also means noisier pictures at pixel level. But when you resize the D800 picture to the same size as the D700 and start to compare noise, the D800 is better. Sometimes it is as good as D3s / D4, if not better.


For me, the D800 36MP size is a bonus when trying to print big. Usually extreme cropping is not done for weddings but I may be wrong. The one thing that should be a primary reason for wedding photographers to upgrade to D800 is the excellent dynamic range.


What body are you using?
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Nice explanation on the shake-intolerance, easy to understand thumbup.gif

Yeah, I suppose those who are experienced with wedding photography don't do too much cropping also laugh.gif But still a good feature to have I think hehe~ Never used a D700 before, is the D800 much better in terms of dynamic range? hmm.gif But no doubt the DR on the D800 is crazy la haha wub.gif wub.gif



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QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Oct 9 2013, 01:44 PM)
There's no "advantage" of one focal length over another. It just depends on what you wanna shoot only  laugh.gif
i'm preparing for street-shot in Korea and Japan.
- already have 50mm,
- just to get another advice from your guy regard investment in 35mm

QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 9 2013, 01:45 PM)
Depends on your camera body.
Are you using DX or FX?  laugh.gif
D90 smile.gif DX only..



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QUOTE(cawan @ Oct 9 2013, 02:00 PM)
i'm preparing for street-shot in Korea and Japan.
- already have 50mm,
- just to get another advice from your guy regard investment in 35mm
D90 smile.gif DX only..
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Since D90 is a crop-sensor body.
50mm is more or less like a 75mm, which can be very, very tight for street shots. Especially those cramped ones in Japan. 50mm is more suitable for portraits usually

35mm is around 50mm for your D90, so its actually more suitable for your street photography use, though still a little bit too "long range" for some laugh.gif

It depends on your shooting style, some prefer getting really, really close. While others love being those sniping types laugh.gif

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 9 2013, 01:57 PM)
Nice explanation on the shake-intolerance, easy to understand  thumbup.gif

Yeah, I suppose those who are experienced with wedding photography don't do too much cropping also  laugh.gif But still a good feature to have I think hehe~ Never used a D700 before, is the D800 much better in terms of dynamic range? hmm.gif But no doubt the DR on the D800 is crazy la haha  wub.gif  wub.gif
Yes, the D800 does not just have better dynamic range compared to the D700 but the best dynamic range period. If I'm not wrong, it's something like 14EV vs 12EV (D800 vs D700).
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Okya, thank you guys, will decide on the D800/D700 thingy
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QUOTE(cawan @ Oct 9 2013, 02:00 PM)
i'm preparing for street-shot in Korea and Japan.
- already have 50mm,
- just to get another advice from your guy regard investment in 35mm
D90 smile.gif DX only..
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QUOTE(Reckoning @ Oct 9 2013, 02:04 PM)
Okya, thank you guys, will decide on the D800/D700 thingy
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