Isnt it surprising that safety is rarely a factor to consider? Typical Malaysian attitude which is why companies like Toyota thrive here offering crap cars with safety standards that don't exceed even Proton and yet come out best sellers.

because out of 10 vios drivers, 9 drive like they own the roads.

and out of the 9, 8 are ah beng ah seng....

how much the vios? expensive and small. selling only because got a stupid toyota symbol.

cheaper maintenance? wait your vegetable head kena chop a few times by toyota s c ... then you say cheaper la.

how much the HIGHEST specs vios in Thailand? compared with the lowest spec vios in malaysia.

good handling? compared to what? viva? of course la better.

good resale value only because got ignorant ah beng ah seng wannabes want to show off driving semi value toyota

Reliable: Prius C.
Good RV: Preve CFE... cause instantly you save 10k. Otherwise perhaps Kia Rio or Ford Fiesta, both are doing rather well these days. But yes, they are no Vios. At least better than the Honda Jazz though with the instant price drop recently
Good handling: Preve, Fiesta.
Maintenance: Preve?
Good FC: We are in Malaysia for crying out loud. At most there's a 1 liter difference between these cars, your feet/driving style has a much bigger effect on the FC than the car itself. The Prius C is the most frugal of them all though.

Safety isn't a concern?

80k for a b-segment is overprice..
Forte is a c-segment but price like b-segment
has a lot better features n value for money..n far more in safety..

Vios better huh? So good huh?...read this..

http://machasayz.blogspot.com/2012/07/kia-...honda-city.html

Frankly speaking. I believe the mistakes are not caused by UMW, rather our country's tax structure and car policy.

The reason is very simple. If they import or we have those vios with overseas specs, this will make local BBQed cars like protong less competitive (It is not competitive now, yes. What I meant is less less competitive.) Let's say in this scenario, we have vios selling at 60-70k (full spec) with overseas specs, how much do you think we have to price protong and berodua? Even local baked car and vios priced at the same price range, with foreign brands more feature, do you think local fried brand can even sell?

By impose higher tax, encourage local dealers to sell at sky rocket price WITH reduced features, do you think consumers would be happy with the purchase.

Let me give another example:

NGL in Indonesia is selling at RM 80k. Well, let's not compare 2 country with different GDPs or whatever. Fair, but what are the differences are:

1) Bigger rim/ tyre
2) Double Din
3) Driver and Passenger air bags
4) Keyless
5) Shock sensor
6) Reverse camera

It is suppose to be "grand". At current offer, some would mention it is not value for money etc. I don't mind it is either 80k in Indon or 100k in My, but least give whatever specification sold overseas here.

Furthermore, another point is, our gahment don't really encourage dealers to bring in too many models. They much prefer those handicapped models on the road rather than those handicapped protong and maivee.

In the past, we more or less benefit by protong, but not these days. If possible, I rather that local baked brands close shops for the benefit of at least LYN car enthusiast!

Vios's technology still outdated compare to same segment and same pricing range such as Forte, City, Fiesta... but no doubt the Vios "old technology" are much more reliable and mature rather than deploying fancy features such as vehicle stability control which may still in "tuning stage" for perfection which may ruin their high reputable branding...

Are sure vios no BA and this link is not accurate !!!!

1st of all, cars from proton and perodua are taxed too. given the same structure to other foreign brands, why cars like Fiesta, Forte, Jazz, City and etc can offer more features than Vios at the same price range?
http://machasayz.blogspot.com/2012/07/kia-...honda-city.html

here you go on ANCAP crash test results for your so call half baked Protons:-
http://www.ancap.com.au/crashtestrecord?Id=516
http://www.ancap.com.au/crashtestrecord?Id=540
http://www.ancap.com.au/crashtestrecord?Id=539

and your other cars including the godly Vios:-
http://www.ancap.com.au/mediarelease?id=168

even the all new Accord is no match with our half baked protons.
http://www.ancap.com.au/crashtestrecord?Id=537

so at the same price, other brands can do better, who to blame? UMW and toyota.

This post has been edited by Gouki: Sep 19 2013, 09:28 PM

still lucky that new Vios J spec doen't offer 1 Airbag only like Almera...

Why blame the gomen for those "handicapped" models when Ford can bring in a fully equipped Fiesta Sedan at the price of a Vios E?

Unless you downshift the gear, else the gearbox shall always run at the most fuel saving ratio.
Have you really drive your car a lot?
Even at 100km/h, would have been at 7th gear.

Unless you are trolling but I dun really sense it from your reply.

Im driving honda city , I actually wonder which can beat vios within 80k range? I got no problem with my city, but fc is a little bit high, and I believe honda city spare part will be expensive than vios, because my brother in law is doing this field

80k range which car is better like I Quote in the list? By the way im honda city 09 driver, I just wonder which 80k range best price compared to vios interm of fc , maintenance

Let me know which car is within 80k range can be compared the quote I list ? Answer to my question

Vios got bigger boots , prius c is good but boots doesnt big enough to carry even a baby car

By the way, is that prius c selling at 80k?

But interm of reliable, fc , maintenance, can it beat vios?

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Sep 19 2013, 09:58 PM

But only vios have manual transmission for sedan imported car. since so many give bad review of vios I stuck with proton all my life

Blame the tax again? Vios has no import duty applies, only excise duty which even Proton/Perodua have to pay. Fiesta also CKD, look at their specs?

i would take the inspira manual any time any day. what is so great about a sub par toyota that is imported from tomyamland? not like it's imported from japan after all. lol.

you drive a Vios?

What is so wrong being outdated?
If you see this from a different angle, it is not outdated. It is actually PROVEN and PERFECT technology.

That is the problem with many car buyers. They think that new technology is good. But what is so good when there is still room for improvement?

As for Vios, the technology is proven and it is perfected. PERFECT = no more room for improvement.

Get it?

Fiesta CBU from TomYamland