Cheap & Good ?
In your dreams... 

Isnt it surprising that safety is rarely a factor to consider? Typical Malaysian attitude which is why companies like Toyota thrive here offering crap cars with safety standards that don't exceed even Proton and yet come out best sellers.

cheaper maintenance?  wait your vegetable head kena chop a few times by toyota s c ... then you say cheaper la.

how much the HIGHEST specs vios in Thailand?  compared with the lowest spec vios in malaysia.

good handling?  compared to what?  viva? of course la better.

good resale value only because got ignorant ah beng ah seng wannabes want to show off driving semi value toyota

Reliable: Prius C.
Good RV: Preve CFE... cause instantly you save 10k. Otherwise perhaps Kia Rio or Ford Fiesta, both are doing rather well these days. But yes, they are no Vios. At least better than the Honda Jazz though with the instant price drop recently
Good handling: Preve, Fiesta.
Maintenance: Preve?
Good FC: We are in Malaysia for crying out loud. At most there's a 1 liter difference between these cars, your feet/driving style has a much bigger effect on the FC than the car itself. The Prius C is the most frugal of them all though.

Safety isn't a concern?

80k for a b-segment is overprice..
Forte is a c-segment but price like b-segment
has a lot better features n value for money..n far more in safety..    

None. Not even Vios.

Safety 1st...live's not cheap on the road nowadays...

Another ignoramus who thinks good handling is only good for taking corners at high speed.

I guess safety not important to you too since you keep harping on that list, where "safety" is not in it.

outdated means old cheap technology milking you ah beng ah sengs.....

perfect?  perfect for toyota.... give you old cheap junk, paste a toyota symbol and you all buy without thinking.

With the almost same price ppl can own korean cars like hyundai elantra 1.6~1.8 or kia forte 1.6~2.0

Now with Ford closing their Australia manufacturing plants.....

Sometime I wonder how VW can have so many ready stocks around?
The turbocharged variant of VW simply cannot sell overseas and they push all of them to Malaysia?
Or their manufacturing capability is just so good....

At 80k you will only get vios nearest rival nissan almera

@gold member: Why can Kia offer the Rio at 75k, similar drivetrain to the Vios, but with 6 airbags and ESP? Why can Ford offer the Fiesta LX Sedan for 83k or so, with 7 airbags, ESP and a 6 speed DSG (which is more expensive than a 4 or even 6 speed torque converter)? Keep in mind that the Yaris, at similar specs to its competitors, costs a similar price overseas. But here it is about as expensive, but nowhere near as well speced.

@gkl83: ESP was perfected like 10 years ago. It has been in use in cars for 18 years now, it could have its own driving license! 6 airbags were standard overseas more than 10 years ago even in base spec C segment cars (meaning 75 hp).

@chongkiatz: The Prius C has a bigger boot opening though. Not sure if a baby car can fit... once you fold a seat sure can. And yes, you'll have to extend the budget a bit and bargain with the SA... but since the Prius C doesn't seem to be selling so well there's hope it can be had for a good price.

@skyblu3: What's your phone?

If you care so much about second hand value, BUY A EFFING SECOND HAND CAR! Seriously... some people. A car is not an investment, and if you care so much about money, buy a 1-2 year old second hand car. It is almost new, and it is much cheaper (if you avoid the Toyota badge). Still got warranty etc. The first year or two the drop is the worst... after that it evens out. Buy second hand makes other suffer through the drop. Just looked at Mudah. 6 month old Freed, 88k. With bodykit and all. 3 year old Freed: 80k. New around 100k? 110?

Also, if you care about money: What if someone causes you to have an accident. He can drive away, but you crash cause your car doesn't handle well. At that point the better handling Fiesta with ESP becomes much cheaper to own than the Vios that needs an expensive repair (and best thing is you can't claim someone elses insurance). Of what if you have a crash, again caused by someone else, that leaves you disabled or dead? Who will earn money then? What about the medical bills? A better handling car could have helped you avoid the accident, a safer car would give you fewer injuries, enabling you to continue working.
Very short sighted thinking.

Driving a safe car isn't an invitation to drive like an idiot. You can die in ANY car if you just try hard enough. We are talking about driving at legal speeds, and then an accident happens. Same speed, but one time it's a Vios, one time it's a Fiesta. In the Fiesta you'll simply have better chances of walking away. There was recently a crash between a Honda Accord (old one) and a Tesla Model S. The crash was probably caused by a 3rd party, the most innocent of them all were the Honda passengers. Everyone in the Honda died. The Tesla driver opened his door and got out of his car, with a few scratches. And that result is NO surprise at all. The perhaps safest car in the world right now vs an 80s or 90s car, of course this would be the result.

Keep in mind that not all accidents are caused by the driver... often 1 party involved is innocent, and that person couldn't avoid the accident.

Yes, the Vios is a basic car. There is nothing wrong with that. But charging 80k? As much as other, much more sophisticated cars? Daylight robbery. The lowest spec should be at most 60k, then it'd be ok (though the Saga is much more worth it).

Oh yes, and I do not care about the FC. I could save fuel if I wanted to... can't be bothered. Petrol prices are still very low. And if you care about FC... drive a manual, learn to drive it properly, and learn how to drive in a fuel saving way. You can drive with a lower consumption than even the official numbers suggest.

Also, RV is never a fixed thing. Talk to Honda Jazz owners about RV... They'll either cry or punch you in the face. Expected good RV, but now it is bad. The Forte RV is not so bad I believe, Fiesta is also holding up quite well.

Good for them. Get some exercise. Also only need to fold down one seat. So still got 4 seats left... they can take turns walking.

There is no reason why the Vios should cost as much as it does. It removes quite a lot compared to competitors (and the Vios in other markets), they should have no issue offering it with all the safety features it has in other markets without a price hike... the only reason why they aren't doing it is customers are willing to pay for it. But for how long? Honda already had to drop its prices quite a bit (goodbye RV), Toyota also dropped it with the Altis (and I doubt the next one is just around the corner, with no prototypes being spied yet). Those things aren't good for the RV. If the Vios is upgraded to a continental safety standard (they could easily do that) that again is not good for the RV of current Vioses.

you delusional vios owners open such a thread,  sure kena whack by more rational and wise car owners one.

you all hoping to get all of the delusional vios owners to come here and pat each other's backsides and keep on bluffing to yourselves?

come on la.... regret say regret la... cheap arsed car, but you all pay 80k which is ridiculously expensive.

oh ya, the coincidence,  just now, when it was in my right of way, a dumb arsed vios driver had to cut in front of me like a true arse hole. This is simply the type of vios ah beng ah seng driver. inconsiderate,  arrogant and stupid.

that's what i did to corners. what is 40kmh corner? 
Bro, I salute your patient to educate them. Really salute you man, 100%.   
Some people are just emotional. Let it be, rational one knows what is best for them.

Do you notice vios driver usually drives recklessly, young one, most of them are Ah Beng, uneducated group, emotional.
Old one, uncles, I cant blame them because some of them might not know T is ripping them, they don't research much but to follow their surroundings.

I don't hate the car, I'm just pissed with the drivers and the T that ripping ppl off with such bullshit price tag, the new "facelift" even dare to increase their price. Well, that's business.

those toyotas hang around for so long oredy...toyota crown has like 15 generation of cars.. lol toyota sure know how to make very reliable cars that it's so femes among all the uncle auntie thats why the toyota reputation so strong...that time mana ada koreans, and other obscured brands while u all were sucking t*tties...sure majority old schools will prefer the japs brands...

but times have changed toyota strategy is to ride of it's brandname strength and squeeze more profit from its cash cow.... eitherway they r considered the veteran in the automotive industry and the new kids on the block ie koreans, etc to have to put more effort to win the market/loyalty therefore the value/specs discrepancy (there has to be- coz u cant have the perfect package) between models as T is resting on its laurels oredy...

whether toyota reliability REALLY has decreased over the same time of it's strategy changed then i'm not too sure but i doubt it and the momentum of their brandname is still strong ...cuz if the reliability has really go down significantly, sure it will reflect in figures but no,  it's still seem no.1 most hot items in msia and u cannot deny facts and figures.

I do admit ESC VSC BA are important, but I suppose since accident is not an everyday event of your life and those parents like to give preach of all the safety driving lessons so myb most msian just yet feel the need of this safety only and still confident of own manual skill

What we're doing here is just ego bruising each other expense for own ego...

Just buy la what U think is worth....don't have to put down vios ,city or proton owners and brands....U buy what your money is worth and your need.  Not everyone like what you like

ok la your beng vios sipeh hoh la....

try bring 4 normal sized adults from JB to Penang with your beng vios. if by seremban your 2 rear passengers don't get cramps all over their body,I respect your beng vios, if by penang your 2 rear passengers don't get irreversible leg cramps , I pay your beng vios installment 2 months la...

talk kok no use one.... you people kena cheat buy milo tin can with same old engine, same old crap but pay through your backsides double the price than in Thailand still happy, in denial, totally delusional go ahead la... but please try bring 4 normal sized adults and take up my challenge.

ha ha ha. . vios cannot fetch 4 adults?  then you vios owners need to buy 2 vios to fetch 4 adults? ! damn clever Japanese,  chop your vegetable head until like that....

ha ha ha. ....

Someone keep talking resale value for their VIOS.

My question, since VIOS is a perfect god car, why bother to sell it? It built for last forever, so why need to care the resale value? 

ok la your beng vios sipeh hoh la....

try bring 4 normal sized adults from JB to Penang with your beng vios. if by seremban your 2 rear passengers don't get cramps all over their body,I respect your beng vios, if by penang your 2 rear passengers don't get irreversible leg cramps , I pay your beng vios installment 2 months la...

talk kok no use one.... you people kena cheat buy milo tin can with same old engine, same old crap but pay through your backsides double the price than in Thailand still happy, in denial, totally delusional go ahead la... but please try bring 4 normal sized adults and take up my challenge.

With vios parts more expensive. Service more expensive. Labour more expensive.
UMW don't know got how many complains with brand new cars. Even with the J series, in SG it's dual airbags. In MY is just 1? And don't know what else did UMW take out from vios for MY market?
In the end spend more for just better NVH and RV?  Think again.

Why don't compare with SG? 1 vios in SG = 4 vios in MY?