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 Why is Vios no good ? So many bashers

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post Sep 19 2013, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(sevendogz @ Sep 19 2013, 09:51 AM)
go test drive ford fiesta s, the direct competitor to vios, NVH is much better and can sweep corner at 70kmh
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post Sep 19 2013, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(zeus2005 @ Sep 19 2013, 11:42 AM)
CVT by right does not has physical gear or infinite gear ratios. The 7 speed is just a gimmick i believe.
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QUOTE(dvinez @ Sep 19 2013, 11:49 AM)
so it actually have no gear, but were set a virtual one to imitate the gear change?  rclxub.gif
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The virtual gears are there the same reason why you need to downshift when coming out of a corner or climbing hills you need the torque quickly. CVT takes their time to climb up the RPM range, with simulated stepped ratios, you can downshift and reach the desired RPM immediately.
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post Sep 19 2013, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(zeus2005 @ Sep 19 2013, 12:06 PM)
But then again, it does not need to mention 7 speed in their brochure or ads. I myself driving CVT car but it does not has those paddle shifter for shifting gear. It is only equipped with a sport mode button which is powerful enough to climb uphill. Even the salesperson explained to me how CVT works instead of giving a so called virtual feeling and description to a customer.
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It's just an option for more control, that's all smile.gif
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post Sep 19 2013, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(gold member @ Sep 19 2013, 09:08 PM)

Furthermore, another point is, our gahment don't really encourage dealers to bring in too many models. They much prefer those handicapped models on the road rather than those handicapped protong and maivee.

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Why blame the gomen for those "handicapped" models when Ford can bring in a fully equipped Fiesta Sedan at the price of a Vios E?
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post Sep 19 2013, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Sep 19 2013, 09:44 PM)
Blame the tax again? Vios has no import duty applies, only excise duty which even Proton/Perodua have to pay. Fiesta also CKD, look at their specs?
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Fiesta CBU from TomYamland
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post Sep 19 2013, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 19 2013, 09:40 PM)
Let me know which car is within 80k range can be compared the quote I list ? Answer to my question

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None. Not even Vios.
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post Sep 19 2013, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Sep 19 2013, 10:01 PM)
So is Vios. Isn't that CKD term in Malaysia applies to all vehicle assembled in ASEAN?
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Vios is assembled in Shah Alam, Fiesta in Rayang, Thailand.

CKD = assembled in M'sia
CBU = imported whole requiring AP

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post Sep 19 2013, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 19 2013, 10:06 PM)
I don think got any car within 80k can beat

Reliable proven engine
GOOD FC
Good space with big boot
Cheap maintenance
Good resales value
About handling, not everyone buying a car take 70kmh sharp corner, nowaday living in malaysia isnt easy, what normally human need is

Reliable again, good fc again, cheaper maintenancr again , good resales value again

Because those is hard earn money, that why ppl care about resales value.
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Another ignoramus who thinks good handling is only good for taking corners at high speed.

I guess safety not important to you too since you keep harping on that list, where "safety" is not in it.

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post Sep 19 2013, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Sep 19 2013, 10:14 PM)
The new vios assembled in Malaysia?
I remember the dugong vios used to assembled by Perodua but they can't do it well. End up UMW import everything from Thailand with extra 2k shipping charge per vehicle.

Does Innova from Indonesia need AP? I dun reckon so. Correct me if I'm wrong.
To my understanding, only vehicle built outside of ASEAN countries require AP to come into Malaysia.
Ford? Their production just can't cope with the demand around.
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New Vios early batches will be CBU from Thai I reckon, after that will be CKD as well. Never knew Vios was ever assembled by Perodua.....I know Avanza was assembled by Perodua la, the facelift I'm not sure. On that note, my source from UMW told me the new Vios already have 5,000 pre-bookings before the launch next month. Power of brand yo!

According the wikipedia

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Malaysian Toyota Vios is assembled locally by ASSB, a subsidiary of UMW Toyota, in Shah Alam, Selangor.


As for the AP, I'm not sure. I know Ford import their Fiestas a few times a year, everytime they run out you'll have to wait for them to restock, SA told me due to AP issue, dunno singalingam me or what. As far as I know the still can meet demand for the Fiesta and Focus, it's only the Ranger they have problem with.
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post Sep 19 2013, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(ironfolic @ Sep 19 2013, 10:15 PM)
I not sure Vios can consider CKD bcoz CKD mean part is import and assemble in Malaysia. Last time Thailand got flood but Toyota is not effected. Meaning the part is locally make, no?
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AFAIK some parts are imported some parts are made locally. Excise duty is calculated on how many percent of the car is made locally.
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post Sep 19 2013, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Sep 19 2013, 10:25 PM)
I'm not sure but I met Ford CEO few months back.
Apparently there is certain allocation by Ford Thailand manufacturing plants to Malaysia every month for all the models.

Even he can't do much to change that. He just doesn't get the stock to sell, and he said he will do something where more Ranger to come in monthly in the near future.

Somehow I dun see it just yet, coz my Ford dealer friend telling me that the waiting list is around 7 months.
Mazda BT50 is shorter, around 3 to 4 months.

For Ford, I think they are not making enough for the region consumption. Again, they might be less optimistic of how their car can sell, thus not investing as much as Honda/Toyota/Nissan do in assembling plants.
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Then you'd know better than me la. According to my SA the Ranger is particularly troublesome because some parts are manufactured in Aussie, which needs to meet the demand of multiple markets and somehow ASEAN markets gets the short end of the stick. The Wildtrak backlog is so far behind it's not even funny doh.gif

My SA also complain to me everytime when their bread-and-butter model Fiesta sells out and have to wait a month or 2 for fresh stock to arrive, they really eat northwest wind because no car to deliver laugh.gif

I read they are closing their Mexico plant and moving the production line for US Fiestas to Rayong as well rclxub.gif

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post Sep 19 2013, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Sep 19 2013, 10:34 PM)
Now with Ford closing their Australia manufacturing plants.....

Sometime I wonder how VW can have so many ready stocks around?
The turbocharged variant of VW simply cannot sell overseas and they push all of them to Malaysia?
Or their manufacturing capability is just so good....
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Ford OZ closing affects OZ market the most, oh and the Ranger production (I guess the Ranger uses parts from the Falcon? I have no idea though). Ford OZ has always concentrated on the OZ market only with the Falcon model, I guess it is no longer sustainable.

No idea on the VW business model, you're right them seem to be perpetually well-stocked here sweat.gif
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post Sep 20 2013, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 20 2013, 01:10 AM)
Working in Toyota SC doesn't  mean that you know about Vios.

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Hahahahahahahaha......you also agree Toyota SC technicians that work on Vioses day in day out knows nothing about Toyota cars?

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post Sep 20 2013, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(helven @ Sep 20 2013, 01:03 AM)
what is 40kmh corner?  whistling.gif

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post Sep 20 2013, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Sep 20 2013, 08:42 AM)
I wish Bolehland car's price like US
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RM80k for a Prius.... wub.gif

Oh wai....
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post Sep 20 2013, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Sep 20 2013, 08:52 AM)
about RM100k for a 3 series wub.gif

IS250 for USD35k laugh.gif
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post Sep 20 2013, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Sep 20 2013, 09:05 AM)
Taxes got 3 categories right?

only the least amout is free ma laugh.gif
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Hybrids are exempted from import duty and excise duty (the most expensive one).

They are only subjected to 10% sales tax.
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post Sep 20 2013, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Sep 20 2013, 09:40 AM)
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post Sep 20 2013, 10:54 AM

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Why Vios kenot fit 4 adults?

come to M'sia become C-segment mah!
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post Sep 20 2013, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Sep 20 2013, 11:12 AM)
no you heathen soul! this is a god car! according to ericmaxman... so it should cost nothing!

god car must appear to all who believe and pray to the god car... amen!

dear god car vios.... make all vios owners installments go away.... amen!
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In FnF, the Veeyous is considered god car because:

1. Like God, it is omnipresent. You can't look at the rear view mirror without seeing one anywhere.

2. It defies the laws of physics. 0-100 faster than GTR, 90 degrees corner at 300km/h.

3. It is a chick magnet. and also auntie magnet. Unfortunately you will see them on the driver's seat more often than on the driver's lap.

4. While driving it you will grow b00bs and a vag1na.

5. It is being considered by NASA to revive the lunar landing program. Male mission commanders aka drivers are recruited from volunteers, and must accept spontaneous gender-change as a side effect of the mission.

A picture of NASA doing pre-launch trials with the car.

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You car can do those mou? deswai Veeyous is god car.

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