@gold member: Why can Kia offer the Rio at 75k, similar drivetrain to the Vios, but with 6 airbags and ESP? Why can Ford offer the Fiesta LX Sedan for 83k or so, with 7 airbags, ESP and a 6 speed DSG (which is more expensive than a 4 or even 6 speed torque converter)? Keep in mind that the Yaris, at similar specs to its competitors, costs a similar price overseas. But here it is about as expensive, but nowhere near as well speced.

@gkl83: ESP was perfected like 10 years ago. It has been in use in cars for 18 years now, it could have its own driving license! 6 airbags were standard overseas more than 10 years ago even in base spec C segment cars (meaning 75 hp).

@chongkiatz: The Prius C has a bigger boot opening though. Not sure if a baby car can fit... once you fold a seat sure can. And yes, you'll have to extend the budget a bit and bargain with the SA... but since the Prius C doesn't seem to be selling so well there's hope it can be had for a good price.

@skyblu3: What's your phone?

If you care so much about second hand value, BUY A EFFING SECOND HAND CAR! Seriously... some people. A car is not an investment, and if you care so much about money, buy a 1-2 year old second hand car. It is almost new, and it is much cheaper (if you avoid the Toyota badge). Still got warranty etc. The first year or two the drop is the worst... after that it evens out. Buy second hand makes other suffer through the drop. Just looked at Mudah. 6 month old Freed, 88k. With bodykit and all. 3 year old Freed: 80k. New around 100k? 110?

Also, if you care about money: What if someone causes you to have an accident. He can drive away, but you crash cause your car doesn't handle well. At that point the better handling Fiesta with ESP becomes much cheaper to own than the Vios that needs an expensive repair (and best thing is you can't claim someone elses insurance). Of what if you have a crash, again caused by someone else, that leaves you disabled or dead? Who will earn money then? What about the medical bills? A better handling car could have helped you avoid the accident, a safer car would give you fewer injuries, enabling you to continue working.
Very short sighted thinking.

Driving a safe car isn't an invitation to drive like an idiot. You can die in ANY car if you just try hard enough. We are talking about driving at legal speeds, and then an accident happens. Same speed, but one time it's a Vios, one time it's a Fiesta. In the Fiesta you'll simply have better chances of walking away. There was recently a crash between a Honda Accord (old one) and a Tesla Model S. The crash was probably caused by a 3rd party, the most innocent of them all were the Honda passengers. Everyone in the Honda died. The Tesla driver opened his door and got out of his car, with a few scratches. And that result is NO surprise at all. The perhaps safest car in the world right now vs an 80s or 90s car, of course this would be the result.

Keep in mind that not all accidents are caused by the driver... often 1 party involved is innocent, and that person couldn't avoid the accident.

Yes, the Vios is a basic car. There is nothing wrong with that. But charging 80k? As much as other, much more sophisticated cars? Daylight robbery. The lowest spec should be at most 60k, then it'd be ok (though the Saga is much more worth it).

Oh yes, and I do not care about the FC. I could save fuel if I wanted to... can't be bothered. Petrol prices are still very low. And if you care about FC... drive a manual, learn to drive it properly, and learn how to drive in a fuel saving way. You can drive with a lower consumption than even the official numbers suggest.

Also, RV is never a fixed thing. Talk to Honda Jazz owners about RV... They'll either cry or punch you in the face. Expected good RV, but now it is bad. The Forte RV is not so bad I believe, Fiesta is also holding up quite well. 2011 Fiesta S around 63k, 2011 Vios TRD around 62k. One I even saw for 57k. Good RV for the Vios? Bad RV for the Fiesta? The TRD was more expensive when new.