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 Why is Vios no good ? So many bashers

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post Sep 19 2013, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 19 2013, 09:40 PM)
Let me know which car is within 80k range can be compared the quote I list ? Answer to my question

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None. Not even Vios.
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post Sep 19 2013, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(Gouki @ Sep 19 2013, 10:45 PM)
i would take the inspira manual any time any day. what is so great about a sub par toyota that is imported from tomyamland? not like it's imported from japan after all. lol. tongue.gif
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This sub par Toyota is not even imported... Is make in boleh land. thumbup.gif
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post Sep 19 2013, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 19 2013, 09:53 PM)
Fiesta CBU from TomYamland
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So is Vios. Isn't that CKD term in Malaysia applies to all vehicle assembled in ASEAN?
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Toyota Vios.
The default car to buy if you know nothing about cars.
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post Sep 19 2013, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 19 2013, 09:40 PM)

By the way, is that prius c selling at 80k?
But interm of reliable, fc , maintenance,  can it beat vios?
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Safety 1st...live's not cheap on the road nowadays... biggrin.gif

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post Sep 19 2013, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 19 2013, 09:54 PM)
None. Not even Vios.
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I don think got any car within 80k can beat

Reliable proven engine
GOOD FC
Good space with big boot
Cheap maintenance
Good resales value


About handling, not everyone buying a car take 70kmh sharp corner, nowaday living in malaysia isnt easy, what normally human need is

Reliable again, good fc again, cheaper maintenancr again , good resales value again

Because those is hard earn money, that why ppl care about resales value.
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post Sep 19 2013, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Sep 19 2013, 10:01 PM)
So is Vios. Isn't that CKD term in Malaysia applies to all vehicle assembled in ASEAN?
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Vios is assembled in Shah Alam, Fiesta in Rayang, Thailand.

CKD = assembled in M'sia
CBU = imported whole requiring AP

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post Sep 19 2013, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 19 2013, 10:01 PM)
Toyota Vios.
The default car to buy if you know nothing about cars.
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this is the most ignorant and ridiculous comment ever.

vios is the default car for ah beng ah seng wannabes. ...
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post Sep 19 2013, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 19 2013, 10:06 PM)
I don think got any car within 80k can beat

Reliable proven engine
GOOD FC
Good space with big boot
Cheap maintenance
Good resales value
About handling, not everyone buying a car take 70kmh sharp corner, nowaday living in malaysia isnt easy, what normally human need is

Reliable again, good fc again, cheaper maintenancr again , good resales value again

Because those is hard earn money, that why ppl care about resales value.
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Another ignoramus who thinks good handling is only good for taking corners at high speed.

I guess safety not important to you too since you keep harping on that list, where "safety" is not in it.

This post has been edited by dares: Sep 19 2013, 10:10 PM
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post Sep 19 2013, 10:11 PM

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Damnnn bashing vios only already reach 10 pages

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post Sep 19 2013, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(yaz_inseven @ Sep 19 2013, 10:06 PM)
Safety 1st...live's not cheap on the road nowadays... biggrin.gif
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U take prius c, drive 150kmh, go straght bang a lorry, if u no die, I pay u whole life money

U wan safety also need to see ur financial able to feed right? 80k vs 99k is quite big different bro

And safety isnt everything bro, pls go see youtube alot of video, how many ppl are lucky to live even with serious accident, how many of them die in those full of safety feature with 800-900k price tag car?

If ppl got money sure wont go for vios lo, if I can afford 99k car, I wont looking at 80k car le bro

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Sep 19 2013, 10:14 PM
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post Sep 19 2013, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 19 2013, 10:07 PM)
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Vios is assembled in Shah Alam, Fiesta in Rayang, Thailand.

CKD = assembled in M'sia
CBU = imported whole requiring AP

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The new vios assembled in Malaysia?
I remember the dugong vios used to assembled by Perodua but they can't do it well. End up UMW import everything from Thailand with extra 2k shipping charge per vehicle.

Does Innova from Indonesia need AP? I dun reckon so. Correct me if I'm wrong.


To my understanding, only vehicle built outside of ASEAN countries require AP to come into Malaysia.
Ford? Their production just can't cope with the demand around.

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post Sep 19 2013, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 19 2013, 11:07 PM)
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Vios is assembled in Shah Alam, Fiesta in Rayang, Thailand.

CKD = assembled in M'sia
CBU = imported whole requiring AP

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I not sure Vios can consider CKD bcoz CKD mean part is import and assemble in Malaysia. Last time Thailand got flood but Toyota is not effected. Meaning the part is locally make, no?


QUOTE(allenultra @ Sep 19 2013, 11:14 PM)
The new vios assembled in Malaysia?
I remember the dugong vios used to assembled by Perodua but they can't do it well. End up UMW import everything from Thailand with extra 2k shipping charge per vehicle.

Does Innova from Indonesia need AP? I dun reckon so. Correct me if I'm wrong.
To my understanding, only vehicle built outside of ASEAN countries require AP to come into Malaysia.
Ford? Their production just can't cope with the demand around.
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Yes! new vios is assemble in Malaysia. U think is cheaper too transport 1000 part everymonth to Malaysia or localize it? P2 never assemble vios. UMW is the one do it.

This post has been edited by ironfolic: Sep 19 2013, 10:21 PM
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post Sep 19 2013, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:49 PM)
What is so wrong being outdated?
If you see this from a different angle, it is not outdated.  It is actually PROVEN and PERFECT technology.

That is the problem with many car buyers.  They think that new technology is good.  But what is so good when there is still room for improvement?

As for Vios, the technology is proven and it is perfected.  PERFECT = no more room for improvement.

Get it?
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outdated means old cheap technology milking you ah beng ah sengs.....

perfect? perfect for toyota.... give you old cheap junk, paste a toyota symbol and you all buy without thinking.
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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 19 2013, 10:12 PM)
U take prius c, drive 150kmh, go straght bang a lorry, if u no die, I pay u whole life money

U wan safety also need to see ur financial able to feed right? 80k vs 99k is quite big different bro

And safety isnt everything bro, pls go see youtube alot of video, how many ppl are lucky to live even with serious accident, how many of them die in those full of safety feature with 800-900k price tag car?

If ppl got money sure wont go for vios lo, if I can afford 99k car, I wont looking at 80k car le bro
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eh prius also stupid toyota junk la....

but vios cheap and stupid toyota junk to cheat ah beng ah seng
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post Sep 19 2013, 10:21 PM

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Yup when ever the is related to vios stuff definitely get attack by many bashes!!!!!!!

Ok i not here to defense or praising either! I just reply according the topic " why vios no good " and below is my FACT STORY !!!!!!! Real owner and not like those rich imagination bashes simply whack here without the fact which i think isn't a healthy way at all. OK OK OK before u condemning VIOS please share with me u thought as the following question before to firing VIOS further.

1) In business line do u think sales figure report is a joke ? The figure is determine u business condition and also help the business continues improvement plan. So do you think whoever buy vios is so call ah peng or idiot? whoever brought other than vios is the son of god car ? bashes out there pls show me the sales figure yours son of god car and where is the ranking above vois ???? Again figures don't lie only mouth !!!!!!


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VIOS J Spec Owner 2009 mileage 110000KM *****
Honda City E spec owner 2013 mileage 2700km *****

-Major problem change lower arm only during warranty prior only (lucky)

Pros
1) Fuel saver King among B segment car
2) Cheaper maintenance vs city
3) comfort city ride vs City
4) Very responsive and good pickup vs City

Cons
1) Noisy engine sound above 100km
2) Cabin sound proof is bad vs City
3) handling above 100km is not stable and steering feel loose vs City
4) Cornering can't beat City
5) No ESP system !!!!

All above come out from my sincere review so there is nothing wrong what car u buy because at the end is yours money which car is mostly fitted u critical

In conclusion, vios is nothing to shout about is a basic reliable car if u aim for FC and responsive pickup with cheap maintenance don't missed to test drive this car in u shopping list ya.



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post Sep 19 2013, 10:21 PM

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talking about tax structure between CKD and CBU makes me remembered a thing about last year toyota camry where CKD version is much more expensive than CBU
so who decide the pricing???government or company management???

and talking about toyota malaysia expensive price..do read this article
http://www.financetwitter.com/2012/04/here...r-old-tech.html
talking about bashing UMW toyota...hahahhahahaha
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This post has been edited by budakdegilz: Sep 19 2013, 10:21 PM
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post Sep 19 2013, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Sep 19 2013, 10:14 PM)
The new vios assembled in Malaysia?
I remember the dugong vios used to assembled by Perodua but they can't do it well. End up UMW import everything from Thailand with extra 2k shipping charge per vehicle.

Does Innova from Indonesia need AP? I dun reckon so. Correct me if I'm wrong.
To my understanding, only vehicle built outside of ASEAN countries require AP to come into Malaysia.
Ford? Their production just can't cope with the demand around.
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New Vios early batches will be CBU from Thai I reckon, after that will be CKD as well. Never knew Vios was ever assembled by Perodua.....I know Avanza was assembled by Perodua la, the facelift I'm not sure. On that note, my source from UMW told me the new Vios already have 5,000 pre-bookings before the launch next month. Power of brand yo!

According the wikipedia

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Malaysian Toyota Vios is assembled locally by ASSB, a subsidiary of UMW Toyota, in Shah Alam, Selangor.


As for the AP, I'm not sure. I know Ford import their Fiestas a few times a year, everytime they run out you'll have to wait for them to restock, SA told me due to AP issue, dunno singalingam me or what. As far as I know the still can meet demand for the Fiesta and Focus, it's only the Ranger they have problem with.
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post Sep 19 2013, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Sep 19 2013, 10:18 PM)
outdated means old cheap technology milking you ah beng ah sengs.....

perfect?  perfect for toyota.... give you old cheap junk, paste a toyota symbol and you all buy without thinking.
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with this expression on their face.
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post Sep 19 2013, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(ironfolic @ Sep 19 2013, 10:15 PM)
I not sure Vios can consider CKD bcoz CKD mean part is import and assemble in Malaysia. Last time Thailand got flood but Toyota is not effected. Meaning the part is locally make, no?
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AFAIK some parts are imported some parts are made locally. Excise duty is calculated on how many percent of the car is made locally.

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