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 Buying a new laptop? NEED RECOMMENDATIONS? V21, Kindly FOLLOW the FORMAT TQ~!

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post Oct 22 2013, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 22 2013, 12:18 PM)
I think its best to check whether there are drivers for W7 first oh before buying that 5470 nod.gif
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Yes, Dell Malaysia has W7 drivers for 5470.

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QUOTE(wmsim195553 @ Oct 22 2013, 01:18 PM)
Plan to get a new laptop because the current Toshiba Satellite L635 have some start up problem which take 1 hour to open.

1. Preferably Asus but can consider other brands with similar specs and lower price

2. RM 3000

3. Multimedia usage, research purposes, able to play latest high graphic games with smooth performance without lagging with medium settings.

4. Larger than 14'' with HD 1920x1080, touchscreen preferable.

Thank you for the suggestion. notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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short answer: nothing tick all your boxes tongue.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

The L635 is taking 1 hour to turn on? hmm.gif
Is the HDD sound funny?
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post Oct 22 2013, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(wmsim195553 @ Oct 22 2013, 01:56 PM)
If compare between Asus N550LF and Lenovo Y510p, which one is better?

Ya, when power on there is no screen but the power is on,fan is spinning and it just stuck at there.
Need to unplug the power then plug in again. then power on it, if still can't work then have to keep repeating.
It takes 1 hour to start up and actually quite depend on luck.
I checked the HDD for bad sector but it shows no error. I also no idea what to do.
Currently in university and doing research quite worry if my data loss someday.  sad.gif
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N550LF-CK064H, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M + (1366x768; touch)@RM3099[2.6kg], 4GB, 750GB
Y510p, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GT750M(GDDR5) + (1920x1080)@RM3399[2.7kg], 8GB, 1TB, W8, red backlit, swappable ODD, 120w psu, 2 yrs

Y510P has more CPU and GPU power to deliver better gaming experience.
But Y510P is over your budget already.
Btw, N550LF, iinm, don't have FHD spec hmm.gif

Closest:
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GE60-2OC, i5-4200M + Nvidia GT750M(GDDR5) + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM3099,8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, steel series KB

Prices are RSP, negotiable.
Don't bother with touch screen on 15". You hand will get tired easily poking across keyboard smile.gif

Suggest you quickly take out the HDD (and put in external casing), and make a backup of all your important data.
Don't run anymore test on the HDD, it may make the situation worse.
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post Oct 22 2013, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(wmsim195553 @ Oct 22 2013, 03:30 PM)
Ya, i already backup all the stuff in another HDD. So now just wait the RIP of the Toshiba.  sad.gif
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If you think only the HDD is dying, why don't you just buy a HDD or even better a SSD (256G ~ RM600)? hmm.gif
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post Oct 23 2013, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(KOHTT @ Oct 22 2013, 10:51 PM)
Preferred  brand: Toshiba

Budget:1500 to 1600

Usage: Internet, Productivity Software, Stock Exchange software.

Size: 14 or 15 inches
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QUOTE(KOHTT @ Oct 22 2013, 11:13 PM)
I got a noob questions here since out of touch of the latest notebook technology and software for quite sometime. I am still using window SP and dual core pentium notebook that run like turtle:

1) What is the most reliable notebook in the market now? Previously I heard IBM and Toshiba were the best but now IBM no more already. Heard that Acer is the worst.

2) What is the latest processor in the market? Does intel celeron lagging when we played with certain software?

3) Slim laptop screen - it that much lighter than the normal laptop? It seems like no much advantage to me...

4) Touch screen notebook - Is that really useful for the notebook or it is just something nice to have?

Thanks in advance.  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Oct 22 2013, 11:50 PM)
1. IBM is under Lenovo now.
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IBM is still IBM (very much alive and kicking) sweat.gif IBM only sold their laptop business to Lenovo, and Lenovo has been able to leverage technology they bought and implement them across Lenovo models (e.g. keyboard, recovery software ... ).

For your usage, you only need an Intel i3, with Intel IGPU.
Toshiba don't have much choices within your budget.
Much of the lagging that users like you feel is due to:
a. lack of RAM - minimum 4GB in W8.1, 8GB or more is better.
b. slow HDD - go with SSD (solid state drive), 128GB SSD ~ RM300.
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post Oct 23 2013, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(motel266 @ Oct 23 2013, 12:37 PM)
1. Preferred Brand
don't care as long reliable
2. Budget
2.5k
3. Usage
gaming and assignment
4. Preferred laptop/screen size
13" and up

thx
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reliable? hmm.gif don't know hmm.gif

Asus
G750JX-T4059H [3D], i7-4700HQ + Nvidia GTX770M + (1920x1080 3D) + Bluray@RM5599[4.5kg], 8GB, 1TB, W8, 3D kit

Dell
Alienware 14, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GTX765M + (1920x1080; anti-glare) + 64GB mSATA + 750GB(7200rpm)@RM4999[2.77kg], 8GB, W8SL, 802.11ac

www.illegear.com
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2613184
Illegear RE-13 Pro, i5-4200M + Nvidia GTX765M + (1920x1080 IPS)@RM3999[2kg][Onkyo, SoundBlaster Cinema], 4GB, 500GB(7200rpm), Backlit Keyboard, FreeDOS, [CPU Options: i5-4200M - i7-4900MQ]
Illegear RE-15, i5-4200M + Nvidia GTX765M + (1920x1080)@RM3499[2.6kg][Onkyo, SoundBlaster Cinema], 4GB, 500GB(7200rpm), FreeDOS, [CPU Options: i5-4200M - i7-4900MQ]
Illegear RS-15 Lite, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GTX770M + (1920x1080)@RM4999[3.1kg][Onkyo, SoundBlaster X-FI MB3], 8GB, 500GB(7200rpm), FreeDOS, [CPU Options: i5-4200M - i7-4900MQ] [GPU Options: Nvidia GTX765M, Nvidia GTX770M, Nvidia Quadro K1000M]
Illegear RE-17, i5-4200M + Nvidia GTX765M + (1920x1080)@RM3699[3.2kg][Onkyo, SoundBlaster Cinema], 4GB, 500GB(7200rpm), FreeDOS, [CPU Options: i5-4200M - i7-4900MQ]

MSI
GE40-2OC, i7-4702MQ + Nvidia GTX760M + (1600x900; anti-glare)@RM3499[1.8kg], 4GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8
GE60-2OE, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GTX765M + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM4299,8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, backlit keyboard
GX60-3BE, AMD A10-5750M + AMD HD8970 + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM4399 8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, steel series multi color backlit KB
GE70-2OE, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GTX765M + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM4499,8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, backlit keyboard
GX70-3BE, AMD A10-5750M + AMD XT HD8970 + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM4899, 8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, steel series & backlit KB
GS70-2OC, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GTX765M + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM4699[2.66kg][Dynaudio], 8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, steel series multi color backlit KB
GS70-2OD (Stealth)-096MY, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GTX765M + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM4899, 8GB, 1TB(7200rpm), W8, steel series multi color backlit KB

Prices are RSP, negotiable.

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QUOTE(peachmonkey @ Oct 23 2013, 06:27 PM)
Hi all, in my search for Lenovo E431, I stumbled upon another model. The Lenovo V480.

Its running almost the same specs as the E431.

Any comments or experience with this particular model? Is it better or at least on par with the E431?
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V480, i5-3230M + Nvidia GT740M@RM2305, 4GB,500GB(5400rpm), W7P
ThinkPad Edge E431, i5-3230M + Intel HD4000@RM2589[2.15kg], 4GB, 1TB, W7P/W8P, anti-glare

spec wise, the V480 actually has a more powerful GPU smile.gif
but on build quality, E431 / E430 win. You will notice it once you compare them side by side tongue.gif (try twisting the laptops)
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QUOTE(heliora10 @ Oct 23 2013, 07:16 PM)
hmm i don't think any of the 4th gen intel ultrabook 13-inch is in malaysia yet right, apple has macbook air haswell for 4 months liao, even their macbook pro is updated with haswell and is available here right now, why the other brands so slow one.

looking to get either the new macbook pro or wait for other ultrabooks...

btw i think thewirecutter.com is a pretty good website to simplify and cut down the clutter on laptop recommendations.
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Sony
Vaio SVD13211SGW, i5-4200U + Intel HD4400 + 128GB SSD+ (1920x1080)@RM4999[1.3kg], 4GB, W8SL, stylus
Vaio SVP13218PGB, i7-4500U + Intel HD4400 + 256GB SSD + (1920x1080)@RM4999[1.06kg], 4GB, W8SL, stylus
Vaio SVP13213SGS, i5-4200U + Intel HD4400 + 128GB SSD + (1920x1080)@RM3799[1.06kg], 4GB, W8SL

Dell
XPS12, i5-4200U + Intel HD4400 + 128GB SSD + (1920x1080;touch)@RM3999[1.52kg], 4GB, W8SL, backlit, spill resistant keyboard, build-in battery, no ODD
XPS12, i7-4500U + Intel HD4400 + 256GB SSD + (1920x1080;touch)@RM5099[1.52kg], 8GB, W8SL, backlit, spill resistant keyboard, build-in battery, no ODD


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QUOTE(mahyuni @ Oct 23 2013, 07:13 PM)
1. Any
2. RM1-2k
3. Word processing/editing on the go so need something with good battery life. My current K43SM is killing my shoulders/back. No need atas spec as I have a decent gaming desktop at home adi.
4. 11" - 13"
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Acer
V5-131-10074G50, 1007U + Intel HD@RM1149, 4GB, 500GB, W8SL
V5-132P-10192G50b, 1019Y + Intel HD + (1366x768; touch)@RM1399, 2GB, 500GB, W8

Asus
X201E-KX178D/9D , Intel 1007U + Intel HD@RM999, 2GB, 500GB, FreeDOS, 1 year

Dell
Inspiron 11, Celeron 2955U + Intel HD + (1366x768;touch)@RM1299, 2GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W8

Prices are RSP, negotiable.
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QUOTE(motel266 @ Oct 23 2013, 12:37 PM)
1. Preferred Brand
don't care as long reliable
2. Budget
2.5k
3. Usage
gaming and assignment
4. Preferred laptop/screen size
13" and up

thx
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QUOTE(motel266 @ Oct 23 2013, 01:39 PM)
sorry its 2.5knot 5k typo there.
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Sorry tongue.gif
GT750M is the most powerful GPU you can get within your budget.

Acer
V5-473PG-54204G50, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M +(1366x768;touch)@RM2299, 4GB, 500GB,W8 *no OD

Asus
K46CB-WX060H, i5-3337U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2199[2kg], 2GB, 750GB, W8, 4-cell, OD

Dell
Inspiron 14R, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M@RM1849 [2.32kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), Linux, 6 cell; W8@RM2049
Inspiron 14R, i7-4500U + Nvidia GT750M (GDDR5) @RM2499[2.32kg], 8GB, 1TB(5400rpm), Ubuntu 12.04 , 6 cell; W8SL@RM2699
Vostro 5470, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2249, 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W8, 3-cell

HP
Pavilion 14-N059TX, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2099[2.03kg], 4GB, 750GB, W8

Lenovo
Y400, i7-3630QM + Nvidia GT750M@RM2499, 4GB, 500GB, FreeDOS, 120wPSU, swappable ODD, 2 years warranty
Z400 touch, i5-3230M + Nvidia GT740M + (1366x768, touch)@RM2199, 4GB, 1TB, W8; 2 years warranty

Sony
Vaio SVF14218SGW, i5-3337U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2399[2.4kg], 4GB, 500GB, W8SL

Toshiba
Satellite L40-AS109Xb/G/W, i5-3337U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2199[Onkyo], 4GB, 750GB, 3 years local warranty

Prices are RSP, negotiable.
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QUOTE(b2utycassies @ Oct 23 2013, 03:32 AM)
Preferred brand: Any brand. Hopefully can last another 3 years so I can buy it with my own salary.

Budget: 1000 to 1500.

Usage: Internet, Movie, Coursework and can work everyday, occasionally up to 10 hours.

Size: Lightweight, can hold it and not a troublesome for me to carry it to college with a thick book.
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QUOTE(b2utycassies @ Oct 23 2013, 01:48 PM)
I forgot to write that I don't prefer touch screen. And the budget included all the original softwares. I really on tight budget now but if there's student rebate, I can consider the price up to 1800.
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What do you mean by "all the original software"?
Since you did not even mention what "course work", how do we even know what software you use? doh.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

If the laptop has OS, then it is original. If it come with FreeDOS (no OS), you can get cheap legal OS from your school.
As for software, ask your school for legal student edition, normally quite cheap as well.

Acer
V5-131-10074G50, 1007U + Intel HD@RM1149, 4GB, 500GB, W8SL

Asus
X201E-KX178D/9D , Intel 1007U + Intel HD@RM999, 2GB, 500GB, FreeDOS, 1 year

Prices are RSP, negotiable.
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 23 2013, 11:17 AM)
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QUOTE(heliora10 @ Oct 23 2013, 07:42 PM)
Sony Vaio Pro 13 doesn't come with a stylus, and it's Windows 8 Pro
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TJ, you may want to amend the price list smile.gif

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QUOTE(KOHTT @ Oct 23 2013, 08:35 PM)
We can't assume after IBM PC business taken over by new Management the product quality remain the same right? After all difference Mgm are running the show now.

I was told by some of the dealer that if want to change from HDD to SSD, it will void the warranty of their products. Normally only high end laptop come with the SSD.
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Thinkpad, luckily, is still pretty independent. In fact, for Thinkpad, some (not all) of the manufacturing move back to Japan in 2012 thumbup.gif
Anyway, Thinkpad is over your budget smile.gif

Changing HDD to SSD aftermarket will not void laptop warranty if the re-sellers know what they are doing smile.gif There normally is no "warranty void if broken seal" on HDD bay of laptop.
SSD that come with standard spec normally is expensive. Whereas if we buy aftermarket, 128G ~ RM300.

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QUOTE(mahyuni @ Oct 23 2013, 08:46 PM)
Looking at the recommendations I got, I'd be better off waiting for the Asus T100. 3-4hr battery life isn't good enough for my requirements unfortunately. Sigh.

Maybe I'd be better off saving money and get a Macbook Air, LOL.
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You need to be sure Atom Bay Trail is enough for your usage smile.gif
Btw, that Inspiron 11 should run up to 6-7 hours normal usage. It's spec with Haswell Celeron and 50 WHr battery laugh.gif
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QUOTE(KOHTT @ Oct 23 2013, 08:26 PM)
I am not sure what is Hawell....but salesman said Pentium 2XXX and I3 to I7.

He told me Pentium 2XXX is almost same one as IX series??? rclxub.gif
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Haswell is a generation of CPU, think of it as a manufacturing process. Intel improve the manufacturing process, new generation.
Atom, Celeron, Pentium, Core i3/5/7, are branding. Intel use it to tell buyer what to expect for what price laugh.gif

So we could have Haswell Atom (not yet available), Haswell Celeron, Haswell Pentium, Haswell i3/5/7. (ascending order of power)

What is IX series?

Pentium 2xxxx is Ivy Bridge (1 gen older than Haswell) Pentium.

Anyway, as I mentioned, for your usage, you don't need powerful CPU.

Satellite C40-A103E, Pentium 2020M + Intel HD@RM1449, 2GB, 500GB, W8SL; 2 years local warranty
Satellite C800-1022, Pentium 2020M + Intel HD@Rm1369, 2GB, 500GB, W8SL, 2 years local warranty

Are the re-sellers showing you these Toshiba?
If you could get it ~ RM1.2k, with additional 4GB RAM (RM100) and 128G SSD (RM300), you should be good to go.

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QUOTE(KOHTT @ Oct 23 2013, 09:12 PM)
IX series means i3, i5 and i7....

Whatever processor I used, after fews years down the road, the PC will become really slow right?

Friend told me I need to reformat my old laptop every year if I want it to run faster again...I find that is very time consuming and troublesome.
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not really. If you don't install all the junk ware, laptop / PC speed will not get worse smile.gif

laptop may slow down due to dust. Dust caught in the air vent / fan, causing laptop to heat up, and CPU, as a precaution, will slow down to avoid overheating. So user should clean the laptop vent / fan regularly (use compressed air with care).

Anyway, for your usage, a Pentium with SSD will boot and respond faster than an i7 with HDD laugh.gif

And no. Pentium does not equal to i3/5/7. (Intel is evil laugh.gif icon_rolleyes.gif but there is still a bit of logic in their pricing and branding, i3/5/7 is more expensive for good reasons).

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QUOTE(KOHTT @ Oct 23 2013, 11:58 PM)
OK, will check with the respective dealer. Hope they don't tell me the story that
"if u want to install additional ram and hardisk, your new laptop warranty will void".
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why don't you check with the re-sellers right here at LYN garage sale threads? There are quite a few of them carrying Toshiba smile.gif
And you don't need additional "hard disc", you want SSD smile.gif

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QUOTE(KOHTT @ Oct 24 2013, 12:12 AM)
Second hand stuff?  hmm.gif

I always have impression lowyat is a good place for sharing and get information....but not for trading or buying something from the unknown party.
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brand new lah smile.gif Reputable re-sellers will make sure their goods are sealed unit, and only open in front of buyer. Some of the re-sellers have physical store you can visit as well.
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QUOTE(peachmonkey @ Oct 24 2013, 11:40 AM)
How old is this V480 model? Is it an old model from Lenovo? Because I checked on Lenovo Malaysia website and the model isn't listed there.

Also dropped by the Lenovo shop in low yat plaza and the sales lady said that the V480 is an old out of stock model.

Btw, for the extended on site warranty, can I purchase it online? I asked another shop in low yat plaza and the guy there said I needed to purchase the extended warranty online.
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not that old, I think have been in market for about 1 year hmm.gif If you decide to go for it, just make sure you get brand new sealed unit.

For Lenovo consumer line laptop (I think V480 is consumer line smile.gif ), normally the re-seller can arrange to buy the on site warranty extension for you, but you have to register online (a code will be provide to you to register online). Upon registration, normally you will be requested to send a scanned copy of your purchase receipt from the re-sellers through email, so that Lenovo can start the warranty from the date on the receipt.
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QUOTE(peachmonkey @ Oct 24 2013, 02:08 PM)
Thanks man. Really appreciate your advice smile.gif

Edit: How much is the price of the V480 in the market now?
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V series is always slightly more expensive than Z series (and I don't see why laugh.gif ).
So V series with i5 (ivy bridge) and GT740M, I think is ~ RM2.2 - 2.3k hmm.gif (it's not very popular, so not too many re-sellers pushing for it, which mean getting good discount is normally a challenge).

1 thing though, I may be mistaken on the time it has been in market. GT740M is pretty new, ~ 6 months. So this V480 with GT740M could not be that old hmm.gif

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