Which one?

Fine as a novelty but a Seiko 5 is a much better everday watch imo.

Seiko has heritage, made the first Quartz watch and almost killed the entire group of Swiss manufacturers. Watchsnob don't give them that much credit. LOL.

Swatch watches are good, they are in house movements (LOL). Just buy the one you like and wear it.

Actually the snob did in a couple of articles, he just hates them to almost wiping off the swiss watch industry

The YAS407, it is using modified ETA movement? Do they still make good build quality products?

Go to swatch shop and touch it, then go an ahpek shop and touch the cheapest Seiko 5 you can find. You'll have your answer.

Later he answer you...tertouch the ahpek hand..very wrinkly.. a bit soft too... then he bought the Seiko 5 cause the ahpek smiled at him

but this model's movement ok? compared to seiko5's.

The Swatch's 2841 movement is a downgrade version (beats at 21,600vph like most Seikos) of the 2824 using cheaper parts and cannot hack like the Seiko.

While the Seiko's 7s26/36 isn't the most pretty or the most accurate movements around but it is a very evolved one. It's tough and most of all, its also dirt cheap to replace and every ahpek watchguy can fix it. Whether they wanna do it or not is another story.

Not to mention it's only 3 bar water resistance meaning its splash proof while most Seiko 5's are between 5 bar and 10 bar for the "Sports" model which means you can swim with it.

Awful Swatch straps with 4 piece lug = you're stuck with the strap (have I mentioned that its awful?) unless you're handy with the dremel and play chop chop on the case.

Most of all.. Could you seriously wear it out?

Wut the, I searched 2841 movement and saw the someone said "The escape wheel and pallet are not made of steel. They look like silicone of plastic." Actually not going to buy it, but got it as a gift from a lucky draw, got an orient myself, but my gf wants it, so I might as well give her.

watchsnob gives credit where credit is due.
for seiko, its mostly cos they churn out hundreds of sometimes faceless imitators at the entry lvl price point without any care for their credibility...that of cos trickles down to what then the general public may think of grand seiko as 'just another seiko'.

Depending on how one look at it.... that's not necessarily a bad thing.

there was a time when seiko wanted to beat the swiss badly...
now they're just beating themselves to death

QFT

For a start, they should start to focus and cut down on the bazillion generic models loosely organized along a gazillion overlapping product lines and let their sub brands like Alba, Wired + another gazillion more to do their thing.

He gave credit to Panerai, lol. It was fair, though he still didn't like it.

yea, the radiomir...but he still hates the luminor with a passion...
i too like the radiomir...too bad its almost rm30k.

Radiomir (PAM380) selling at 14k~ mah

not nice la.
i like the 1940 aka pam 512.

Personally I think Panerais are silly, but I want one. And I would avoid their automatics like the plague, and go for the hand wound ones, least those are historically correct for Panerai...

As silly as it is, I still think Panerai > B&R..that's even more silly.

Yeah theres a certain charm to wearing what feels like an ABUS padlock around the wrist.

at least B&R doesnt over-glorify their past history, cos they got none