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post Sep 2 2013, 09:47 PM, updated 12y ago

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Those new at watches do read this 1st
http://www.watcharama.com/glossary.htm

Chronograph and affordable homages (Sub, Pammy, B&R) are big. try to name a few brands, will try my best to update this list

where to find those affordable homages
Sub Homage
- www.mkiiwatches.com
- www.orangewatchcompany.com
- www.steinhartwatches.de
- www.robert-uhren.de
- www.marcelloc-watches.com
- www.rxw.jp
- www.davosawatches.com
- http://www.msc-uhren.com/watches.htm

Sub homage similar to the original James Bond watch
- STEINHART "OCEAN 1 VINTAGE"
http://www.steinhartwatches.de/
- http://www.orangewatchcompany.com/milsub/index.php
- MK II Kingston

Pammy Homage
- www.zuriner.com
- Vollmer watch ( starts at ~1.4K @ watchseller.com )
- www.timefactors.com ( starts ~1.7rm )
- Aristo
- Dievas watch ( http://gnomonwatches.com/Dievas.html)
- www.rxw.jp (price ~1.6K)
- Kadloo (~1.2k on swiss unitas)
- www.drcustomwatch.com (mix of Swiss and Asian)
(Asian parts)
- Getat http://www.siswatch727.com/index.do
- Jackson Tse http://www.jacksontse.com/
- Davidsen ( davidsenjpn@yahoo.com ) - prices starts from rm$1K for Unitas 6497


Bell and Ross Homage
- Junkers
- www.steinhartwatches.de
- http://www.revue-thommen.ch/instrument.htm

many pilot fans here too
- www.stowa.com
- http://www.lacher-shop.de/e_shop/index.php
- www.archimede-uhren.de
- www.christopherward.co.uk
- Aristo (prices start ~1.5K)
- http://prometheuswatch.com/

IWC pilot homage
- Speedbird with soft iron core http://www.timefactors.com/speedbird.htm

diver watches
(online only)
- www.christopherward.co.uk
- guinand-watch.com
- http://www.ocean7watchco.com/
- Doxa
- www.mkiiwatches.com
- www.orangewatchcompany.com
- www.steinhartwatches.de
- www.robert-uhren.de
- www.uhr.info (~rm1k)
- http://halioswatches.com/watches/
- http://www.irreantumwatch.com/store/
- Marathon http://www.broadarrow.net/GSAR.htm
- Bernhardt http://www.bernhardtwatch.com/
- www.boschett-timepieces.com
- www.utswatches.com
- http://www.benaruswatches.com/
- http://www.helson-watches.com/
- http://prometheuswatch.com/
(in stores)
- Fortis
- Hamilton
- Oris
- Sinn
- Tag Heuer
- Longines
- etc

German watches that invested alot in case and movement tech
- Sinn
- http://www.damasko.de/eng/index.html

small size watches (case 33-38mm size)
- www.christopherward.co.uk (price starts at RM600)
- http://junior.frederique-constant.com/ (prices start at RM2.6K)
- http://www.dfreemontwatches.com/new_yorker.htm
- hamilton watch (Field mechanical size at 33mm) retail price ~rm1.1K
- Seiko Spirit Automatic (size 37mm)
- Titoni (many model range btw 33mm to 38mm) http://www.pmwf.com/Watches/WATCHSALES/TitoniSalesTable.htm
- Stowa Antea Kleine Sekunde (35.5mm) or Stowa Antea 365 (36.5mm) prices with shipping ~rm$1.4K and up
- nomos club (36mm) retails ~rm4.5K to 5K or Nomos Ludwig (33mm) retails rm$5K and up
- http://www.jswatch.com/enska/urin.html
- http://www.rgmwatches.com/110As.html
- Maurice Lacroix http://www.mauricelacroix.com/#OUR%20CLASSICS
- http://www.archimede-uhren.de/EN/Pilot-S.htm (prices start at ~rm1.5k)
- http://www.autran-viala.de (prices start at ~rm1.4k)
- http://guinand-watch.com/index.php?option=...=193&Itemid=432 (price at ~rm$1.8K)

great value Chrono watches
- www.uhr.info (rm$1.6k)
- http://www.genius1953.de/
- Guinand watch

Skeleton watches on swiss movement
- SWATCH under US$180
- http://www.steinhartwatches.de/ (limited edition)
- Oris Artelier Skeleton also US$1.5k an up
- Louis Erard 1931 collection usually usd$1.5K an up
- http://www.tourbywatches.com/ usually EUR$1.1K an up
- Maurice Lacroix Masterpiece Skeleton (retailing US$5K an up)

Skeleton or open dial on Jap movement
- Orient watch ~US$350 (not really skeleton, just open dial)
- BULOVA ~US$250 and up (open dial)
- Invicta (some are using Chinese movement)

Skeleton or open dial on Chinese movement
- Invicta
- Armitron
- Kenneth Cole (mostly fashion brands)
- Seagull
- Alpha watch usually under US$100
- Theorema watch usually ~US$200
- TRIAS watch (some swiss movement model cost more, mostly Chinese)

Looking for Japanese Mechanical
- www.seiyajapan.com
- http://www.higuchi-inc.com/
- www.orientwatchusa.com

grey market (online)
- thewatchery.com ( I dealt with them b4)
- ashford.com ( I dealt with them b4)
- collectorstime.com

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post Sep 2 2013, 09:57 PM

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post Sep 2 2013, 10:18 PM

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Congrats on v7!

Saw this over the weekend. Monster watch, with an equally monster price tag...

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post Sep 2 2013, 11:10 PM

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some wrist shot to kick start v7! rclxms.gif

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post Sep 3 2013, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(r3kahsttub @ Sep 2 2013, 10:18 PM)
Congrats on v7!

Saw this over the weekend. Monster watch, with an equally monster price tag...

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hmm.gif where u found this? and the price for this monster?
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post Sep 3 2013, 12:24 AM

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It was on display at the Hublot stand in the Ferrari paddock over the weekend's MMER events. It stood next to a Rose Gold Big Bang, and a Carbonfiber Big Bang... but the price was almost 5x of the combined value for both Big Bangs...
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post Sep 3 2013, 11:35 AM

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The Hublot looks like something Darth Vader would wear LOL. But I'm sure some Russian oligarch will buy it eventually.
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The new rolex GMT MASTER 11Attached Image drool.gif
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post Sep 3 2013, 03:01 PM

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Rolex have replaced Hublot in F1
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post Sep 3 2013, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Sep 2 2013, 02:35 PM)
Tag Heuer is more of a yuppie choice, or, general public perceive as such. I mean you don't even need to wear Tag Heuer on your wrist like normal watch, because Leonardo Dicaprio doesn't
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So in terms of brand, Omega is definitely a better choice for a business setting. And as the other guys said, the Speedmaster Professional - make sure you get the full size one with the actual hand wound movement and not the look alike.

I assume you are looking for chronographs. Another model which is similar is the Maurice Lacroix Pontos Chronograph and one that is distinctly different than the usual layout is the Tudor Heritage Chronograph. I doubt you can get a brand new Zenith El Primero for RM15k, but that is the Ferrari of chronographs. You can look into it as well.

If it is not necessary for a chrono, get a vintage Rolex Datejust or Submariner in more sensible size. Definitely can be obtained with a 15k budget. But I would recommend the overlooked choice among the Rolex family, the GMT Master. You can't go wrong with a Rolex (sadly).

As always, buy whatever that looks nice on your wrist.
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Sorry for bringing this to here, as the last thread was closed

I am surprised that Tag considered as yuppie choice ? I wonder is this coming from anti Tag advert or the watch actually isn't that prestige enough to categorized as higher end thus being labelled yuppie? I read Omega has rich history while Tag's like bought over the brand while using others to manufactured for them. blink.gif I somehow quite like Tag Carrera's design haha... cheaper somemore at just around rm11k. you said it likes yuppie watch made me rclxub.gif

Another one that I like is SeaMaster Diver 300mm 41... around the same price as Tag though.
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post Sep 3 2013, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(tr|n|ty @ Sep 3 2013, 03:39 PM)
Sorry for bringing this to here, as the last thread was closed

I am surprised that Tag considered as yuppie choice ? I wonder is this coming from anti Tag advert or the watch actually isn't that prestige enough to categorized as higher end thus being labelled yuppie?  I read Omega has rich history while Tag's like bought over the brand while using others to manufactured for them.  blink.gif  I somehow quite like Tag Carrera's design haha... cheaper somemore at just around rm11k.  you said it likes yuppie watch made me  rclxub.gif 

Another one that I like is SeaMaster Diver 300mm 41... around the same price as Tag though.
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i like the grand carrera design though..chronographs is not my cup of tea, which happens to be what tag's are always known for
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QUOTE(michaelzolt @ Sep 3 2013, 01:21 PM)
The new rolex GMT MASTER 11Attached Image drool.gif
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selling fast in SG, RSP at SGD11,000 ++ [no discount]
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QUOTE(tr|n|ty @ Sep 3 2013, 03:39 PM)
Sorry for bringing this to here, as the last thread was closed

I am surprised that Tag considered as yuppie choice ? I wonder is this coming from anti Tag advert or the watch actually isn't that prestige enough to categorized as higher end thus being labelled yuppie?  I read Omega has rich history while Tag's like bought over the brand while using others to manufactured for them.  blink.gif  I somehow quite like Tag Carrera's design haha... cheaper somemore at just around rm11k.   you said it likes yuppie watch made me  rclxub.gif 

Another one that I like is SeaMaster Diver 300mm 41... around the same price as Tag though.
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Look at the advertisement I posted, doesn't that look yuppie to you? Higher end? Depends how high end. Tag Heuer is high end, just not as high as Rolex, and both are not as high as Patek Philippe. Heuer's history is mostly vested in motorsports back in the 60s, but that's Heuer, NOT TAG Heuer. I like the Tag Heuer Carrera, so I have one, the 41mm variant not the one with numbers. I am clearly aware of Tag's history, its pedigree and sadly how they spend their marketing dollars. doh.gif

Brand wise, i would say Omega is more premium than Tag.

This?
http://www.omegawatches.com/collection/sea...-41-mm/22208000

That's Pierce Brosnon aka James Bond watch style. Of course in the movies they didn't have the Co-Axial movement yet. The current cal.2500 used is just heavily modified ETA movement. Still not "in-house" yet. Tag's carrera chrono has an advantage being "in-house" movement with their Calibre 1887, which is actually a Seiko movement (LOL).

My advice is to forget the brand placement, forget about its ambassadors and forget about what OTHER PEOPLE THINK, including myself. (LOL). Just put it on your wrist and see which one you love most, and buy it.

Frankly speaking, I would advise against buying a Tag Heuer UNLESS you love it on your own wrist. I do not feel its worth the asking price. HAHAHA, and laughably I own one.

EDIT: If you are looking for chronos, you MUST check out Zenith El Primero 1969. They have a smaller size, you might love it. That is the grand daddy of chronographs.

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QUOTE(Jason @ Sep 3 2013, 06:18 PM)
Look at the advertisement I posted, doesn't that look yuppie to you? Higher end? Depends how high end. Tag Heuer is high end, just not as high as Rolex, and both are not as high as Patek Philippe. Heuer's history is mostly vested in motorsports back in the 60s, but that's Heuer, NOT TAG Heuer. I like the Tag Heuer Carrera, so I have one, the 41mm variant not the one with numbers. I am clearly aware of Tag's history, its pedigree and sadly how they spend their marketing dollars.  doh.gif

Brand wise, i would say Omega is more premium than Tag.

This?
http://www.omegawatches.com/collection/sea...-41-mm/22208000

That's Pierce Brosnon aka James Bond watch style. Of course in the movies they didn't have the Co-Axial movement yet. The current cal.2500 used is just heavily modified ETA movement. Still not "in-house" yet. Tag's carrera chrono has an advantage being "in-house" movement with their Calibre 1887, which is actually a Seiko movement (LOL).

My advice is to forget the brand placement, forget about its ambassadors and forget about what OTHER PEOPLE THINK, including myself. (LOL). Just put it on your wrist and see which one you love most, and buy it.

Frankly speaking, I would advise against buying a Tag Heuer UNLESS you love it on your own wrist. I do not feel its worth the asking price. HAHAHA, and laughably I own one.

EDIT: If you are looking for chronos, you MUST check out Zenith El Primero 1969. They have a smaller size, you might love it. That is the grand daddy of chronographs.
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Zenith El Primero 1969 certainly sweet, can't imagine the price tag. It seems like in the region of 20k+ if I used internet price as reference? Too much for a first timer, scared I couldn't take the heat too much.

This is the Seamaster that I meant. But I have a feeling it's an older design?

http://www.omegawatches.com/collection/sea.../21230425003001

How about this? Old design as well?

http://www.omegawatches.com/collection/spe.../32330404006001


You know watches so well yet you owned a Carrera really surprised me. This just prove that Tag Carrera has its unique that you got one yourself! I will be making trip to watch stores in the next few days, at the moment Tag Carrera calibre 16 date 41mm design really suit my wrist well. I haven't get the chance to try on Omega due to limited choices here in Melaka. I have to purposely make a trip to KL sweat.gif

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QUOTE(tr|n|ty @ Sep 3 2013, 10:52 PM)
Zenith El Primero 1969 certainly sweet, can't imagine the price tag. It seems like in the region of 20k+ if I used internet price as reference? Too much for a first timer, scared I couldn't take the heat too much.

This is the Seamaster that I meant. But I have a feeling it's an older design?

http://www.omegawatches.com/collection/sea.../21230425003001

How about this? Old design as well?

http://www.omegawatches.com/collection/spe.../32330404006001
You know watches so well yet you owned a Carrera really surprised me. This just prove that Tag Carrera has its unique that you got one yourself! I will be making trip to watch stores in the next few days, at the moment Tag Carrera calibre 16 date 41mm design really suit my wrist well.  I haven't get the chance to try on Omega due to limited choices here in Melaka. I have to purposely make a trip to KL  sweat.gif
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The Zenith starts at RM18k after discount IIRC. Go check it out, no harm asking and trying it on your wrist.

Yes those Omega design been around for quite sometime. But frankly speaking, the real Omega chrono with heritage, pedigree and demands respect is the Speedmaster Professional, don't pass it up without seeing it in person.

Rolex designs are "old" design, considering its just a refresh of essentially the same design over the years. Very seldom for real watchmakers to introduce new designs like fashion label, cause its not.

There's usually a staple line that remains consistent with refreshes/updates to its designs, rather than a complete "new" thing

e.g. Tag Heuer you have Aquaracer, Carrera, Monaco etc.
Rolex you have Datejust, Submariner, GMT Master etc.
Omega you have Seamaster, Speedmaster, etc.

You get the idea.

Also, don't be constraint yourself with budget if you are not an avid collector. Just go balls out and wear it for life. My buddy went balls out and stretch his budget 10 years back to buy a Rolex, and he's still wearing the same piece today, and he's happy that his Rolex has significant value in the secondary market.



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Just read these..

Hodinkee spreading Tudor Heritage Chrono Blue poison..
http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/a-week-on-the...age-chrono-blue

The watchsnob approves (sort of) Panerai shocking.gif shocking.gif tongue.gif
http://www.askmen.com/fashion/mens-watches...-challenge.html
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Sep 4 2013, 11:07 AM)
Just read these..

Hodinkee spreading Tudor Heritage Chrono Blue poison..
http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/a-week-on-the...age-chrono-blue
ya i too wanted to go check it out.
but was sold within hours to another regular at one AD.
lazy to go around other AD see who got, most likely none also tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 4 2013, 11:16 AM)
ya i too wanted to go check it out.
but was sold within hours to another regular at one AD.
lazy to go around other AD see who got, most likely none also tongue.gif
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Same here.. went to 2 Rolex/Tudor AD here. Both don't have.
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Does anyone know where I can get a replacement strap for my Omega Speedmaster Professional? I tried searching and non of the shops carry it. Also, the price range?

Thanks!

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