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post Sep 30 2021, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(waruna @ Sep 30 2021, 03:10 PM)
Hi guys and all the NAS experts. A very newbie here want to ask a question about NAS.

Can anyone recommend me one NAS server for my company use? The main purpose is only for file sharing.

Currenly I'm using oldschool method:
- Use a normal CPU
- create a root sharing folder,
- create sub folders for each user/dept.
- then copy the link for each subfolder and create a desktop shortcut to each user's pc. (for example, if HR dept staff, the desktop shortcut link will be something like "\\192.168.1.20\DESKTOP-1111222\shared\hr", and so on.

It's a very oldschool method, I know. And it becomes problem now since we're still in working from home schedule, so need to come to office first to copy the files and bring back to home. Later go back to office and replace the updated files. It's very tiring and ineffective.

So I think NAS is the solution. Based on the purpose mentioned above, anyone can recommend me which NAS should I buy?

A very thank you to everyone.
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If just storage that's accessible by anyone over the network, almost any device can perform that. With NAS, there's more thing can be done. Such as quota for each user.
You should research and list out what you expect the NAS need do for you first. Network storage is a given.
How many GB or TB of space you need?
How many HDD to use?
Need versioning?
How about backup of each user pc?
Backup of the data on NAS?
Need collaborative applications such contacts, calendar, chat, mail, words, excel, slides?
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post Sep 30 2021, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Sep 30 2021, 04:55 PM)
If just storage that's accessible by anyone over the network, almost any device can perform that. With NAS, there's more thing can be done. Such as quota for each user.
You should research and list out what you expect the NAS need do for you first. Network storage is a given.
How many GB or TB of space you need?
How many HDD to use?
Need versioning?
How about backup of each user pc?
Backup of the data on NAS?
Need collaborative applications such contacts, calendar, chat, mail, words, excel, slides?
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Thank you sir for the response.

Yes I did the research and found that NAS can offer more.. But for the time being, I need a storage that can store files and can accessible anywhere. For unknown reason, I want to avoid using port forwarding or VPN tunneling. Plus the normal CPU I've used is already outdated in term of the hardware specs. So I think NAS can solve my problem.

As your questions:
- 10TB space is enough
- HDD to use --> this one I'm not sure. Maybe anyone can suggest.
- Versioning --> not quite sure but I think it's good for backup incase there are any accidental deleting and overwriting
- Backup foe each user pc --> not required
- Backup of the data on NAS --> I thought this one NAS has mirror HDD to copy everything from main disk to backup 2? Please correct me if i'm wrong.
- Collaborative applications --> Not required.

Thank you for your time sir.
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post Sep 30 2021, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(waruna @ Sep 30 2021, 03:10 PM)
Hi guys and all the NAS experts. A very newbie here want to ask a question about NAS.

Can anyone recommend me one NAS server for my company use? The main purpose is only for file sharing.

Currenly I'm using oldschool method:
- Use a normal CPU
- create a root sharing folder,
- create sub folders for each user/dept.
- then copy the link for each subfolder and create a desktop shortcut to each user's pc. (for example, if HR dept staff, the desktop shortcut link will be something like "\\192.168.1.20\DESKTOP-1111222\shared\hr", and so on.

It's a very oldschool method, I know. And it becomes problem now since we're still in working from home schedule, so need to come to office first to copy the files and bring back to home. Later go back to office and replace the updated files. It's very tiring and ineffective.

So I think NAS is the solution. Based on the purpose mentioned above, anyone can recommend me which NAS should I buy?

A very thank you to everyone.
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Do you have experience in IT or some sort NAS?

You might want to consider the cloud 1st.

Takecare the NAS is not easy. Security data and hardware require some experience.


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post Sep 30 2021, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Sep 29 2021, 10:47 PM)
Your model still haven't got DSM 7? Or you want to wait until it is more mature?
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Yup model still waiting update cry.gif
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 30 2021, 06:37 PM)
Do you have experience in IT or some sort NAS?

You might want to consider the cloud 1st.

Takecare the NAS is not easy. Security data and hardware require some experience.
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I see. How hard to take care of the NAS? My experience in Networking is only at the minimum level coz I am more to Admin, managing databases..

As for cloud, yes I'm quite experience in that since my company subscribe with Google Suite Basic and I am the Admin, it's just I think NAS provide better in long term solution.
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QUOTE(waruna @ Sep 30 2021, 09:48 PM)
I see. How hard to take care of the NAS? My experience in Networking is only at the minimum level coz I am more to Admin, managing databases..

As for cloud, yes I'm quite experience in that since my company subscribe with Google Suite Basic and I am the Admin, it's just I think NAS provide better in long term solution.
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Minimum experience should be ok I guess.

If you take care the NAS, you have to responsible for the data security. Not easy task.

From my experience of information for the NAS disaster,

1) the NAS Synology get hack and kena ramson ware. The company is near my home. All the data gone as the boss don’t want pay.
2) A LY guy here house get break in. Took away the Synology NAS. All gone.

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QUOTE(waruna @ Sep 30 2021, 09:48 PM)
I see. How hard to take care of the NAS? My experience in Networking is only at the minimum level coz I am more to Admin, managing databases..

As for cloud, yes I'm quite experience in that since my company subscribe with Google Suite Basic and I am the Admin, it's just I think NAS provide better in long term solution.
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with recent ransomware experience, now i go for office 365, to re-stall one drive data just few click away, i even setup office 365 my friend law firm, which they happy with it now.
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QUOTE(waruna @ Sep 30 2021, 05:05 PM)
Thank you sir for the response.

Yes I did the research and found that NAS can offer more.. But for the time being, I need a storage that can store files and can accessible anywhere. For unknown reason, I want to avoid using port forwarding or VPN tunneling. Plus the normal CPU I've used is already outdated in term of the hardware specs. So I think NAS can solve my problem.

As your questions:
- 10TB space is enough
- HDD to use --> this one I'm not sure. Maybe anyone can suggest.
- Versioning --> not quite sure but I think it's good for backup incase there are any accidental deleting and overwriting
- Backup foe each user pc --> not required
- Backup of the data on NAS --> I thought this one NAS has mirror HDD to copy everything from main disk to backup 2? Please correct me if i'm wrong.
- Collaborative applications --> Not required.

Thank you for your time sir.
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Prebuilt NAS is easy in term of just need to add HDD and do the settings. I would suggest getting x86 CPU with at least 4 cores so it is powerful enough, 4 bays or more if you sees in future will need to expand the storage.

Mirror HDD I think you meant is RAID. It's actually more about uptime. Drive failure, change the drive and rebuild, all without the need to take system offline. It is not a backup.

Cloud storage also good option, but few TB the price won't be cheap. Also should still have another backup in case anything happen to the cloud storage or NAS, such as account got hacked and data wiped.
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post Oct 1 2021, 02:39 AM

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If you have a spare PC, you can test Synology using a clone called Xpenology if it fits your office environment.

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Xpenology creates the possibility to run the Synology DSM on any x86 device like any PC or self-built NAS. So, you can benefit from the powerful multimedia- and cloud features of DSM without buying the hardware NAS from Synology.



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QUOTE(waruna @ Sep 30 2021, 09:48 PM)
As for cloud, yes I'm quite experience in that since my company subscribe with Google Suite Basic and I am the Admin, it's just I think NAS provide better in long term solution.
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If possible your company should consider Google Workspace Business that comes with at the "moment" unlimited storage for shared drive (aka Team drive). With that paired with a NAS you can schedule a rsync cron job to the shared drive and have an ideal backup solution (backup of a backup - local and cloud). Furthermore with Synology Active Backup for Google Workspace you are able to backup your company Google account's locally with a pretty sweet local portal access. Xpenology is actually some sort of grey area in terms of legality for commercial use better not risk it furthermore you get a lot of Synology cloud benefits with Synology Account. DSM 7 is pretty neat, go try it out.
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QUOTE(justnits @ Sep 29 2021, 09:17 PM)
i used to tinker with rpi2 to set up a NAS + Nextcloud for my own cloud backup/storage, but later on stop because of the limitations in rpi2's shared ethernet and usb bandwidth  sweat.gif

how's the write speed across rpi4?
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Read speed 100 MB/s max, write speed 70 MB/s max. My HDDs/SSDs using NTFS format.
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QUOTE(waruna @ Sep 30 2021, 03:10 PM)
Hi guys and all the NAS experts. A very newbie here want to ask a question about NAS.

Can anyone recommend me one NAS server for my company use? The main purpose is only for file sharing.

Currenly I'm using oldschool method:
- Use a normal CPU
- create a root sharing folder,
- create sub folders for each user/dept.
- then copy the link for each subfolder and create a desktop shortcut to each user's pc. (for example, if HR dept staff, the desktop shortcut link will be something like "\\192.168.1.20\DESKTOP-1111222\shared\hr", and so on.

It's a very oldschool method, I know. And it becomes problem now since we're still in working from home schedule, so need to come to office first to copy the files and bring back to home. Later go back to office and replace the updated files. It's very tiring and ineffective.

So I think NAS is the solution. Based on the purpose mentioned above, anyone can recommend me which NAS should I buy?

A very thank you to everyone.
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I use Resilio Sync to sync work folders on my laptop my with Raspberry Pi. Sync via BitTorrent so no problem syncing staff devices at home and your office server. If you want NAS, Synology has Resilio Sync app.
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post Oct 1 2021, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(X1X1 @ Oct 1 2021, 12:58 AM)
with recent ransomware experience, now i go for office 365, to re-stall one drive data just few click away, i even setup office 365 my friend law firm, which they happy with it now.
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How the 365 prevent ransomware ?


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QUOTE(ozak @ Oct 1 2021, 10:21 AM)
How the 365 prevent ransomware  ?
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one click restall tongue.gif
one drive even detect and alert me when ransomware start changing my files name.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 30 2021, 11:18 PM)
Minimum experience should be ok I guess.

If you take care the NAS, you have to responsible for the data security. Not easy task.

From my experience of information for the NAS disaster,

1) the NAS Synology get hack and kena ramson ware. The company is near my home. All the data gone as the boss don’t want pay.
2) A LY guy here house get break in. Took away the Synology NAS. All gone.
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Oct 1 2021, 01:47 AM)
Prebuilt NAS is easy in term of just need to add HDD and do the settings. I would suggest getting x86 CPU with at least 4 cores so it is powerful enough, 4 bays or more if you sees in future will need to expand the storage.

Mirror HDD I think you meant is RAID. It's actually more about uptime. Drive failure, change the drive and rebuild, all without the need to take system offline. It is not a backup.

Cloud storage also good option, but few TB the price won't be cheap. Also should still have another backup in case anything happen to the cloud storage or NAS, such as account got hacked and data wiped.
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QUOTE(havuk @ Oct 1 2021, 02:39 AM)
If you have a spare PC, you can test Synology using a clone called Xpenology if it fits your office environment.
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QUOTE(mintgadget @ Oct 1 2021, 09:36 AM)
If possible your company should consider Google Workspace Business that comes with at the "moment" unlimited storage for shared drive (aka Team drive). With that paired with a NAS you can schedule a rsync cron job to the shared drive and have an ideal backup solution (backup of a backup - local and cloud). Furthermore with Synology Active Backup for Google Workspace you are able to backup your company Google account's locally with a pretty sweet local portal access. Xpenology is actually some sort of grey area in terms of legality for commercial use better not risk it furthermore you get a lot of Synology cloud benefits with Synology Account. DSM 7 is pretty neat, go try it out.
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QUOTE(taqu @ Oct 1 2021, 10:02 AM)
I use Resilio Sync to sync work folders on my laptop my with Raspberry Pi. Sync via BitTorrent so no problem syncing staff devices at home and your office server. If you want NAS, Synology has Resilio Sync app.
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Waa.. pening already rclxub.gif rclxub.gif .. Since I"m the only person who in charge in IT in the company and my job is more into administrations, so I guess I need to source for a vendor who can offer the security services.. like pay monthly or yearly to the vendor.

Anyone of NAS experts here offered such services?

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QUOTE(waruna @ Oct 1 2021, 10:50 AM)
Waa.. pening already  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif .. Since I"m the only person who in charge in IT in the company and my job is more into administrations, so I guess I need to source for a vendor who can offer the security services.. like pay monthly or yearly to the vendor.

Anyone of NAS experts here offered such services?
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I think they're a few around if you google hmm.gif

such as below;

1. https://www.sysit.com.my/nasnetwork-attached-storage/
2. http://www.aceperipherals.com/brands/synol...8xoCorkQAvD_BwE
3. https://m.mythtech.com.my/index.php?ws=show...Network-Storage

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Sep 29 2021, 10:47 PM)
Your model still haven't got DSM 7? Or you want to wait until it is more mature?
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Yes finally rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

https://www.synology.com/en-my/releaseNote/DSM - DSM Version: 7.0.1-42218 sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Oct 4 2021, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(WaNaWe900 @ Oct 3 2021, 10:35 PM)
Yes finally  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

https://www.synology.com/en-my/releaseNote/DSM - DSM Version: 7.0.1-42218  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Straight to updated version, maybe most bugs have been squashed. thumbup.gif
But I haven't receive notification about the update on my DSM, it says there might take few weeks.
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Oct 4 2021, 09:20 AM)
Straight to updated version, maybe most bugs have been squashed. thumbup.gif
But I haven't receive notification about the update on my DSM, it says there might take few weeks.
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Yup no update on NAS yets, just received email and download/update manually...

After restart end-up detect Disk-3 start bad sector sweat.gif sweat.gif ...another RMA to do whistling.gif

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