do you have any idea about this post? ive google around but still dun get any clue what its all about..i am going to take the exam regarding this post but ive been told by my fren it is useless since the questions are so tough..and the candidates are so many..the chances might be too little..
the only thing i knew is the exam format maybe varies from general knowledge and current issue plus logical thinking and essay..

p/s ; im a dumb person in exam..

my gf's dad, used to be one of pegawai tadbir dan diplomatik...now already works as pengarah kewangan, jabatan pendaftaran negara...he had travelled all around the world...

emm..so do you mean that from ptd you can go into high level of rank within goverment body?...but i dun think the pay is wise ..since its goverment..

yup...he earns more that 5k a month now...that's 'gaji pokok'. plus allowances it can go up to 10k

the exam itself is not useless...
I've been to PTD exam once and passed it... simple as u been as urself and not trying to pretend to be another person
this is only a level for them to filter a good person to be as there's about 10,000 applicants nationwide and they only need 1-2% of them
the best man win

one of my friend also sat for it. it's a very good way to enter gov services and interesting department also. if not for money, go for experience. go n sit for it.

my dad is a PTD . i think u need a degree atleast to apply.. corrent me if i'm wrong..

This post has been edited by Haza_izzz: May 21 2006, 01:43 AM

when PEGAWAI - degree
when PENOLONG / PEMBANTU - diploma

http://www.jpa.gov.my/info/j2003/jadualexa...t/M41%20TK1.pdf



This post has been edited by Haza_izzz: May 21 2006, 01:52 AM

yup...pegawai is for degree...most important

A must LAN approved Degree rite??

yup...for sure, this is gov bodies

i got both dip and degree...but in civil eng..but still i applied for this post in jan..ive been working for 3 years for private comp. so i think maybe it is time for me to change for more secured future..its not only for money ..

i stated there M41 - pegawai ..for pembantu i think N41 if not mistaken..

This post has been edited by ijamz: May 21 2006, 04:11 PM

good for you actually, i'll try get some info from my gf's dad

a little info here, PTD n41 is 'lantikan secara kontrak atau sementara'. after go for 'kursus' u will offered to PTD m41 (lantikan tetap).

LEVEL 41 IS FOR DEGREE

yeah...41 is for degree, as the topic starter already had a degree, no prob for him...

LOL.. I just got a letter for the PTD exam yesterday. I applied to SPA last month and they replied quite fast. My exam is on 6th-7th June and conducted at VI. Anyone with me ?

Good luck..
just be urself
and answer the math question as faster as u can
for the essay part... read more articles
for the pengetahuan am read newspaper
and for sahsiah part... i repeat just be urself

Best of luck!

me at ampang ... flamingo...6th and 7th also..

wohoo.. im at putrajaya same date as well...waaa more competition

is there any maximum attempt for this exam?

6&7 nationwide i guess... mine will be at a hotel in kl....haven't got the letter yet...checked online....

good luck to all of u,i applied the same position also but just applied,maybe i will be called in the next round:)

woott...i tot im the only one sitting for it..good luck to you guyss...!!!

This post has been edited by ijamz: May 24 2006, 12:05 AM

im also got the test..will exam 6.7 dis month but at kelantan.. afraid if i cannot get annual leave.. sad..

Maximum attempt ? Hmm I'm not sure about that.

By the way my aunt already lend me her book 'Islam Hadari' by Pak Lah.

guys.. i heard that they are going to get alot of PTD soon.

nope.
but you can only take it once every year.

Yeah.. My dad said that nowdays they hired lawyers, engineers, officers and other high post people.

Anywayz, i dont wanna to spoli ur spirit . Go a head take the Exam and good luck

I am majoring in electronic engineering. Ermm, what is the relations to this post ?

I think they hav...
U just grad or u hav been working for sometime ???
i personally think that people with working experince with given advantage but u are 3.0 - 4.0 student ...

This post has been edited by Haza_izzz: May 24 2006, 11:42 AM

Currently I am working as an engineer but my degree result is not really excellent.

This post has been edited by igor_is300: May 24 2006, 12:36 PM

Well just try . u might get it ...

mine is at putrajaya.... see you guys there...

gud luck to all of you...

i just got the offer letter for the xm and my location is a school at kajang and i dunno to go or not since i'm working on that day,dunno what i'm goin to say to my boss

maybe u can get a MC....

putrajaya?wahhh...same la....see u guys there...

some question guys,if we are accepted to be the pegawai, when we will start working?

maybe 1 month notice but the salary will be due for three months..for post M41..what is the salary aa? i really dunno arr..but for sure below rm2500 and im dead ..

u read in the spa website,for newbie,is around 1900++.

anyway i dont know i can go or not, i can only be free after october.

good luck to u all

Yeah basic salary is around that but expect many perks from gov.

any consideration from spa if we want to start late?

or no choice?

I'm not sure about that. Perhaps we should worry about getting the offer first aye ?

This post has been edited by igor_is300: May 27 2006, 08:49 PM

yeah ur rite,i'll think bout this,dunno i can do the test well or not since i have not been doing essay in bm after form 5,wonder how to do that again? ,for maths i dun think is a problem,i've learn much harder maths in my university life.

Well I just studied a bit from SPA guide. It seems although the math calculation is not complicated but the question is focussing more on logical thinking. If your interpretation and understanding of the question itself is wrong then your anwser might be wrong as well.

GOOD LUCK TOMORROW!!!!

Good Luck everyone

wow... everyone eager to join PTD... fyi, PTD gaji ciput laa.. RM1900 for basic salary. plus housing, entertainment, public servant and cola allowances, most prob you'll get RM2400/mth...

But, the best thing is your 'power' is much greater than other other officer who bear the same grade with u. for example, grade W41 is accountant (title only laa..) and u will report to the dep treasurer. but M41 u wil report directly to chief secretary (ksu), which is the highest post in the ministry. if u r attach to district office, ur title would be asst. district officer (ado). very powerful oo... can grant a piece of land tu...

Other thing is, basically PTD wil move around from ministry to other ministry. sometime even local council, government linked company (glc), statutory bodies etc. so u guys will get more exposure than other government officer. the best ministry, of course, wisma putra (foreign min.). you'll travell oversea a lot with all expenses paid by government.

so, good luck to all of you....

i just mentioned to my boss today to come late tomorrow to work after the xm,he did not really like it,but then i just said i wanted to try,luckily he let me go but have to come to work after xm and do OT until nite

just finished the test today... whoa, it was tougher than i thought...

ya lorr..just finish also...

for essay part is quiet ok..but the math part.. ..not enough time..5-10 quest tembak oredi..

Can you guys posts some of the q's?

we had to submit the q along with the answer..

but can rephase a few like..

saya tidak mempunyai adik,abang atau kakak...Ibu kepada ibu fahmi adalah ibu saya.Siapakah saya?

sumthing like that ..i dun remeber..but i think SAYA -refers to ibu Fahmi ..hehehe

Thanks ijamz.

Yeah, most of the questions are bullshite. Nevertheless I just submitted whatever I can do. If I'm lucky I probably called up for the 2nd stage

This post has been edited by igor_is300: Jun 7 2006, 05:48 PM

yaa..since when lampam is expensive than patin?

and why they intend to take the third person in height ranking?...wtf..

btw... just found a thread regarding PTD ...Experience

This post has been edited by ijamz: Jun 7 2006, 07:28 PM

anybody knows when the test results will be announced and how to obtain it?

hai guys..
im also interested with this job..
im a fresh graduate in diploma in chem eng...
so please tell me how i can apply for this post?

Ok. just want to help., because i have been into this before.

For the start there will be exam that u just take. It more about iQ test and quick thinking.

Then if i remember correctly. U will be conducted to 1 week interview (like the apperentice). this the hard part. U will be tested with public speaking both bm and malay for 5-10 minutes. debate. involvement in group. group member will be different everyday. running 2.5 km in 12 minutes. etc.

After that if i am not mistaken 1 year training and get another diploma (public admin). and a post interview.

This job is for who can speak well, charismatic, beautiful and handsame. must look good in coat. It's for future leader in u. IF u have what it takes. It's a training for diplomat, ambassador, DO and high ranking official. U must can tell a lie and look good at the same time.

In short, the best job in the governmet.
How far can u go? Our PM is a PTD . and he is in islamic studies. what u hold is not important. its what u are.










P.s : I failed on the 1 week
That's why i think the job is for certain personality.

thanks shikimaru!!..(where's ur chakra)..heheeh
really appreciate ur help..
but how can i apply that position??
do you get any mailing address or website for me to send my resume??

damn double posted.


To apply goto to JPA website and register there. www.jpa.gov.my

This post has been edited by shikamaru5314: Jun 19 2006, 07:13 AM

thanks a lot shikimaru

Dont mention it. But do share your experience here.

wow... 1 whole week? must run 2.5km in 12 minits every day aah? when is the results for the 1st test will come out? anybody knows?

Dont dream yet.

After the exam, there's this Program Assesment Center (PAC) like the above poster said, some sort of 1-week interview. You will be tested on everything, public speaking, ur ethics, fitness etc..

If you pass the PAC, then u'll be call for interview.

If you are appointed, you must attend Public Administration Diploma course. There's a lot of interesting modules with the PDRM (you will experience handling police road-blocks), Army (shooting M16), Bomba, Anak Angkat Program, Biro Tatanegara & etc)

PTD M41 is to fill up administration post, less technical, (Penolong Pengarah at Govt Department, Penolong Setiausaha at Ministry level, District Officer at State level) Its a "gunasama' post where JPA can attach you anywhere in the world.

If you have technical degree (engineering,IT,etc) and you love to do technical work, i advice you not to take PTD, as it will be very boring, attend meeting, doing administrative work, budget, etc... but its a very powerful position. They are the future KSU & Director General of Govt Ministries & Department

the result of PTD xm is out,go check it out

Thanx.

I just checked the result. I managed to pass the exam. Anyone with me ?

A lengthy reply there. I wonder if I fit for the post since I am an engineering graduate. Anyway thanx for the tips.

This post has been edited by igor_is300: Jul 18 2006, 05:24 PM

I am with you. , I didnt prepare anythin for the xm since I was so busy with my work

This post has been edited by hazremi: Jul 18 2006, 05:33 PM

Great ! . It's just a beginning. Passing the written test clearly you are sane for this job . Anyway like others said, PAC is the hardest. Well I bet the last interview is tough too. Let's see how well we can play the game. The numbers of each intake is limited. Therefore it's a good experience to go through the test eventhough we failed

Any degree will fit the post. The location of your first posting somewhat depends on your degree. Eg: If you are a Civil Engineering graduate, most likely you'll send to Ministry of Works; Account or Bussiness Degree to Ministry of Finance/Treasury/Audit, etc.. you got the picture right?

The possibility of promotion for PTD is quite easy compare to other service as the PTD people "control" this process in JPA/Govt. One or two years after confirmation, depends on your performance & PTK exams (for promotion, naik gaji & etc) most likely you'll be promoted to higher grade (M44 Principal Assistant Director/Secretary)

Good luck for you guys. For me: been there, done that.

thx for the info

No prob.

For you guys who passed the exams they will call you for PAC next.

Some tips for PAC:

1. If you know the terms "poyo" - then be one. But dont go overboard.
2. If you think that 10mins before a session start is early - other people have been there 30mins before.
3. Bright shirt means white shirt
4. "Kasut kulit bertumit" - means no loafers
5. For men, shave your facial hair everyday.

one question,are u a PTD rite now?

the running for 2.4km in 12 minits... is that going to be done everyday for the period of PAC? anybody have beeen to the PAC before? must pass the test eh? better start my fitness training now...

My friends that was successful in attending the PAC told me that the running test will only being held once. Yup, you need to pass the test before you could attend the PAC.

No I failed my interview back in 2003. I choosed to join another service now.



Just once, u should try to get lower than 15mins. It's just a fitness test to see whether you are physically fit to become a civil servants.



Correction : M44 is Senior Assistant Director/Secretary

the 2.4 km run be done on a track or run around the building facilities? need to start mental training.... hehe... running around a track is more mental supporting i guess?

opps.. i failed... knew it from beginning...

dun be sad,try again in the next xm

U forgot the Rukun Negara is it??

i forgot who is our Prime Minister.... Zetty Aziz isit? the one that signed our money..she should be the leader..

This post has been edited by ijamz: Jul 19 2006, 09:30 PM

she is Bank Negara No 1

guys... the PAC list is out... argghhh... i'm going to kemaman 1/9... so far away... anyone going?

i'm at intengah on 15/9

Oh noes,

Mine is on 8/9/2006 at INTAN KAMPUS WILAYAH SELATAN (IKWAS) KLUANG. They put me far away

what is ur address when u filled up the form?
mine at sri kembangan,lucky at kl campus,near only.

anyway good luck

My address is in KL, Gombak. That's why I took my exam at VI.

Btw it's a month from now. Be prepared and good luck guys.

it's nearer but they don't provide accomodation at intengah.

my address is in kajang... i guess there are too many kl/sel candidates... so elsewhere we go...
hav to start running from now,you guys... 2.4k.... gud luck...

all the best for those who are going PAC on 18/08/2006... do share us your experience ya...

I throw away my PAC inside dustbin. I just apply for fun. just want to see if they respond.

Respond ?

I'm sure you took the exam right ? If you passed the exam you will proceed to the next stage which is PAC. That's all.

they don't care if u didn't come for the PAC... they still have a lot of people in the pool to choose from...

anybody going for the PAC this weekend... do share your experience with us ya...