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moshpit21
post Sep 22 2013, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ Sep 21 2013, 11:03 PM)
Anyone on the new drivers yet?
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Me, so far so good for Neverwinter, better than 326.80

QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Sep 22 2013, 01:31 PM)
New driver more 5 celcius hotter mang beware
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Compared to which version? Mine is cooler around 6C compared to 326.80, making it equal to 326.19, but 326.19 got problem with youtube, that was before youtube changed their UI. So so far so good for me.
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post Sep 23 2013, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 22 2013, 11:17 PM)
It's okay, I get 6 months productive use out of it, and endless amount of fun at 1600p and 4K max setting. Cant put any $ dollar value on fun and priceless experience. wink.gif

Carry on with your 680.
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sorry for not being a hardcore n rich guy as you. but im looking at 780 and the new amd R9 and then decide which one to go. single card only cry.gif
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post Sep 23 2013, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(moshpit21 @ Sep 22 2013, 11:32 PM)
Compared to which version? Mine is cooler around 6C compared to 326.80, making it equal to 326.19, but 326.19 got problem with youtube, that was before youtube changed their UI. So so far so good for me.
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Thanks! Which card are you on by the way? hmm.gif I've been searching for any reported temp increases or decreases on the new drivers.
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post Sep 23 2013, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ Sep 23 2013, 12:57 PM)
Thanks! Which card are you on by the way?  hmm.gif I've been searching for any reported temp increases or decreases on the new drivers.
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From my own personal observation with a GTX 760, I noticed that the max load temperature has increased by nearly 2C at 3D Mark, 11 and Unigine, since moving to the R326 drivers. sweat.gif
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post Sep 23 2013, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Sep 23 2013, 10:46 AM)
sorry for not being a hardcore n rich guy as you. but im looking at 780 and the new amd R9 and then decide which one to go. single card only cry.gif
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No need be sorry, I cant run 680, 780 or the 290X single card for 4K. cry.gif Not nice saying price drop for people's purchase. cry.gif

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post Sep 23 2013, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 23 2013, 10:17 PM)
No need be sorry, I cant run 680, 780 or the 290X single card for 4K. cry.gif Not nice saying price drop for people's purchase. cry.gif

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nevermind bro.. since u have the money to buy a 4k mon + 3way SLI titan so the rm1k x3 is nothing. like u said money cant change the fun n experience u r having now
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post Sep 23 2013, 10:23 PM

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It's a matter of setting a deadline. Sure I can get 780 and get "somewhat" similar performance, but I lose out on months of enjoyment playing games instead playing the waiting game. wink.gif
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post Sep 23 2013, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Sep 22 2013, 09:39 PM)
and titan big price drop next month
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There is no replacement for the 6GB of rams although the 780OC can already outgun the Titan in performance. If you need the rams to run multi or high res monitor, then there's no choice but to pay Nvidia's asking price for it. biggrin.gif If not, the 780 in dual is already more than enough power for almost any possible setup under 1600p
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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ Sep 23 2013, 12:57 PM)
Thanks! Which card are you on by the way?  hmm.gif I've been searching for any reported temp increases or decreases on the new drivers.
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post Sep 24 2013, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(CyntrixTech @ Sep 23 2013, 10:31 PM)
There is no replacement for the 6GB of rams although the 780OC can already outgun the Titan in performance. If you need the rams to run multi or high res monitor, then there's no choice but to pay Nvidia's asking price for it. biggrin.gif If not, the 780 in dual is already more than enough power for almost any possible setup under 1600p
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nahh.. i only wanna game with the 120hz smoothness
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post Sep 24 2013, 04:56 AM

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http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/...g-for-pc-gamers
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post Sep 24 2013, 06:14 AM

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post Sep 24 2013, 06:19 AM

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Why anyone wouldn't want those texture details is beyond me. Display industry has stagnated so long at 1080p, that display manufacturer uses those stagnation to keep selling the same display panels with little improvements. Time to leap forward.

P/S: If it's a money issue, then I'd rather folks say it's money issue Perfectly understandable, new tech costs money. Hiding it behind other reasons make them sound like a copout.
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post Sep 24 2013, 07:58 AM

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Wonder 2 way 780 sli enough for 4k!?

*nvidia got shoot in facebook page about the 4k thingy doh.gif

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post Sep 24 2013, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 24 2013, 06:19 AM)
Why anyone wouldn't want those texture details is beyond me. Display industry has stagnated so long at 1080p, that display manufacturer uses those stagnation to keep selling the same display panels with little improvements. Time to leap forward.

P/S: If it's a money issue, then I'd rather folks say it's money issue Perfectly understandable, new tech costs money. Hiding it behind other reasons make them sound like a copout.
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Its always money.

The move is inevitable at any rate since most people are downsampling on 1080p screens so the demand is there. Now its a price wait for the majority to adopt and then it becomes the new standard. Mmm..sweet sweet high res.
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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ Sep 24 2013, 07:58 AM)
Wonder 2 way 780 sli enough for 4k!?
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For most games, 780 SLI is enough for 4K. With 4K, you dont need AA. Or turn on FXAA for performance-hit free AA. Unless you play the heavy-hitting games like Crysis 3, Metro Last Light or Tomb Raider 2013.

Also, the term "enough" here depends on you. If you want 4K at 120fps, no GPU in the world here is enough to provide you that. Personally for me, "enough" = 4K60 at 40-60fps on the heaviest-hitter game that I play, Crysis 3. And I got that with my TEG. Metro LL is a close second, while I can get 90-100fps on Tomb Raider 2013. Bear in mind, all these results are at 4K60, with all effects max, but either zero AA or FXAA enabled.

QUOTE(ZeratoS @ Sep 24 2013, 09:00 AM)
Its always money.

The move is inevitable at any rate since most people are downsampling on 1080p screens so the demand is there. Now its a price wait for the majority to adopt and then it becomes the new standard. Mmm..sweet sweet high res.
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Then I'd rather folks be truthful and say it's the money factor, instead of beating around the bush with other excuse. I mean, I'd like a 26-room mansion in Malibu and Olympic size swimming pool, but I don't go around saying I prefer a condo and a bathtub.

A lot of folks are easy to dismiss 4K without seeing it. It's like how we moved from SD to FullHD, the jump is significant. It's a matter of whether you believe AND want it badly enough to make that jump.

P/s: YouTube videos does not convey the brilliance of 4K because of the heavily compressed streams. You gotta see it with your own eyes to appreciate it.

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post Sep 24 2013, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 24 2013, 06:19 AM)
Why anyone wouldn't want those texture details is beyond me. Display industry has stagnated so long at 1080p, that display manufacturer uses those stagnation to keep selling the same display panels with little improvements. Time to leap forward.

P/S: If it's a money issue, then I'd rather folks say it's money issue Perfectly understandable, new tech costs money. Hiding it behind other reasons make them sound like a copout.
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i guess i should say it like this. we r born n raised under the 'chinese' culture so we calculate everything. i dont know about u maybe u r more to english educated. we r rational enough to know most of the games/movies/pictures r still in 1080p and have 120hz to play with. yes the 4k resolution is very very crisp clear but it is still not mature.. many contents r still way under 4k. i have the money to buy a 4k monitor now. since the technology nowadays is growing very fast i think i can wait until 4k is mature enough. with all the goodies like 120hz n 144hz and more contents r in 4k resolution. by that time the tech will also bcome cheaper. why rush? why wanna waste the money keep changing the 4k mon when it comes with new features? i dont know maybe 4k mon has a driver update so in the future we dont need to buy a new one to enjoy the new added features? not possible hmm.gif

plus + u need to use extra of money to buy double triple SLI CFX to make the monitor useable on games yet u only get resolution highest at 60fps. more hea,t more power, more noise(except wc) to the whole system

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post Sep 24 2013, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 24 2013, 09:13 AM)
For most games, 780 SLI is enough for 4K. With 4K, you dont need AA. Or turn on FXAA for performance-hit free AA. Unless you play the heavy-hitting games like Crysis 3, Metro Last Light or Tomb Raider 2013.

Also, the term "enough" here depends on you. If you want 4K at 120fps, no GPU in the world here is enough to provide you that. Personally for me, "enough" = 4K60 at 40-60fps on the heaviest-hitter game that I play, Crysis 3. And I got that with my TEG. Metro LL is a close second, while I can get 90-100fps on Tomb Raider 2013. Bear in mind, all these results are at 4K60, with all effects max, but either zero AA or FXAA enabled.
Then I'd rather folks be truthful and say it's the money factor, instead of beating around the bush with other excuse. I mean, I'd like a 26-room mansion in Malibu and Olympic size swimming pool, but I don't go around saying I prefer a condo and a bathtub.

A lot of folks are easy to dismiss 4K without seeing it. It's like how we moved from SD to FullHD, the jump is significant. It's a matter of whether you believe AND want it badly enough to make that jump.

P/s: YouTube videos does not convey the brilliance of 4K because of the heavily compressed streams. You gotta see it with your own eyes to appreciate it.
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90-100fps with 4k resolution Tomb Raider? terrible screen tearing eh?
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Sep 24 2013, 11:29 AM)
i guess i should say it like this. we r born n raised under the 'chinese' culture so we calculate everything. i dont know about u maybe u r more to english educated. we r rational enough to know most of the games/movies/pictures r still in 1080p and have 120hz to play with. yes the 4k resolution is very very crisp clear but it is still not mature.. many contents r still way under 4k. i have the money to buy a 4k monitor now. since the technology nowadays is growing very fast i think i can wait until 4k is mature enough. with all the goodies like 120hz n 144hz and more contents r in 4k resolution. by that time the tech will also bcome cheaper. why rush? why wanna waste the money keep changing the 4k mon when it comes with new features? i dont know maybe 4k mon has a driver update so in the future we dont need to buy a new one to enjoy the new added features? not possible hmm.gif

plus + u need to use extra of money to buy double triple SLI CFX to make the monitor useable on games yet u only get resolution highest at 60fps. more hea,t more power, more noise(except wc) to the whole system
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Read my last post about Malibu mansion and swimming pools. You dont have to own one to appreciate one.

I empathize with your need to wait. I echo your sentiments if that is the case for 4K movies, but NOT games rendered in higher resolution. High resolution texture packs are the norm for modern games since the days of the first Crysis, so textures up to and including 4K are available since (except for console ports, and even then you can supersample it). So when it comes to "most", if that "most" includes legacy old games like HAlf-Life 2, then I'd agree as well. 4K textures on low count polygons is not a pretty sight.

Most games are in 1080p? That is true only in console games, not PC. There's a reason why there's the quality slider bar in games. You dont see the slider bar go beyond 1080p since your display only supports up to 1080p. And even if let say you have a 1440/1600p display, would you be content to stay at 1080p when you have the option of going further?

However, I game in the present, not in the past. And I spec my machine for the future. I do not see myself upgrading anymore for up to 5 years. I had almost 5 years out of my old i7 980X+ GTX 480SLI + Dell U2711 at 2560x1440, when at those times in the 2007/08, gaming at 1080p was a luxury and anything higher was unheard of. Other than a mistaken purchase of a GTX690, which I then rectified with the Titans, I have not purchased a SINGLE upgrade to this rig, until I build my current rig, TEG and its 4K eyes. This will last me for another 5 years. This is how I invest on my gaming build, I dont upgrade incrementally, I go all out and stay with that specs for longer period than those who upgrade yearly or every two years when new GPUs comes out. This 4K monitor investment is gonne be used for an even longer period than how long my Dell U2711, partly because folks refuse to budge from the current 1080p standards, which I've considered as stale since it was made available more than 18 years ago in 1995. John Carmack coded Quake on a 1080p at that time. So because of this, my 4K monitor will be a very sound investment, taking a page from your calculative Chinese culture. Because of the stubbornness and slow general public adoption of 4K, I foresee me 4K as being still treated as high end and relevant even 10 years from now. Now it doesn't sound so bad as an investment now, isnt it? I get to experience it early (which no dollar $$$ value can compare to when it comes to experience), and by 10 years later, it is still a top notch display option.

It's all based on needs and wants. Do you need 4K? You probably need to ask your bank account on that now. Market price is not helping. Do most people want 4K? A lot of those whom I've invited to experience my rig at my home, share that sentiment of "Hell yes!". Financial restraint may be a determining factor of reducing that "Hell yes!" to "Maybe later", but that doesn't detract from the fact that it is impressive. It's the whole "I cant afford this, so it's automatically shitty" mentality that's what I'm trying to break here.

Heat and noise? IF those were the concerns, it's no longer is anymore these days with AIO solutions on CPU waterblocks and GPU waterblocks easily obtained. It's again, a matter of whether you want to do it or not.

In the end, it's a matter of priorities. I'm single, I've not much of a priority other than making sure I enjoy myself and indulge in as many unique experiences I can before I vacate this life. Such priorities may not be mirrored on those who have other obligations like in marriages and families. It still does not mean you cannot appreciate the brilliance of 4K, even if it out of reach.

Since you've indicated about your Chinese culture and being calculative, you're probably not single or have other priorities other than spending that kind of money on gaming PC related stuff. Nothing against that, different people different priorities.

QUOTE(law1777 @ Sep 24 2013, 11:34 AM)
90-100fps with 4k resolution Tomb Raider? terrible screen tearing eh?
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Nope. No screen tearing. You must have assumed and mistaken my Titans with the 7970s, and my PQ321 with that cheap 4K Seiki. We all know what assumption is the mother of. wink.gif

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law1777, give it a rest already.

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