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post Nov 5 2014, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(rurushu @ Nov 5 2014, 10:32 PM)
ohh.... PCIe and M.2 are connection interfaces and NVME is protocol? trying to grab the picture  hmm.gif
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pcie is computer bus, m.2 is a standard for a physical component (including size, form factors) and connectors (including key type, slot) that i think replacing msata, and nvme is the specification to access ssd via pcie.
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post Nov 6 2014, 07:31 AM

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Tq bro for feedback.. =)
There r 2 types of pcie SSD.
1- PCIE SSD that connects to M.2 socket.
2- PCIE SSD that connects to PCIE slots. (just like a graphic card)

Which type is better & faster??

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post Nov 6 2014, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Nov 6 2014, 07:31 AM)
Tq bro for feedback.. =)
There r 2 types of pcie SSD.
1- PCIE SSD that connects to M.2 socket.
2- PCIE SSD that connects to PCIE slots. (just like a graphic card)

Which type is better & faster??
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1. I believe this is the small size only SSD, as small as the size of laptop wireless card.
2. This is the full lane PCI-E SSD meant for desktop/tower chassis only, mostly enterprise and/or high-end server.

If you want the faster, definitely the 2nd, no doubt, uses Enterprise grade NAND and full lane bandwidth. brows.gif
But you're bound to only tower chassis, M.2 is usually for laptop especially those very slim type which can't fit the normal SATA SSD.
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post Nov 6 2014, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 5 2014, 10:45 PM)
pcie is computer bus, m.2 is a standard for a physical component (including size, form factors) and connectors (including key type, slot) that i think replacing msata, and nvme is the specification to access ssd via pcie.
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thanks horns for the patience explanation, will read up more on them to better grasp the concepts! notworthy.gif
QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Nov 6 2014, 07:38 AM)
1. I believe this is the small size only SSD, as small as the size of laptop wireless card.
2. This is the full lane PCI-E SSD meant for desktop/tower chassis only, mostly enterprise and/or high-end server.

If you want the faster, definitely the 2nd, no doubt, uses Enterprise grade NAND and full lane bandwidth. brows.gif
But you're bound to only tower chassis, M.2 is usually for laptop especially those very slim type which can't fit the normal SATA SSD.
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are M.2 slots only for smalls? because the recent X99 motherboard offerings from Asus and Asrock have included M.2 slots as well...

and just a quick question, when it says using PCIe SSDs, it gains the speed of PCIe bus' speed, but does that means it is also competing with other PCIe components for example, multiple GPU for the PCIe lanes? hmm.gif
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post Nov 6 2014, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(rurushu @ Nov 6 2014, 09:59 AM)
are M.2 slots only for smalls? because the recent X99 motherboard offerings from Asus and Asrock have included M.2 slots as well...

and just a quick question, when it says using PCIe SSDs, it gains the speed of PCIe bus' speed, but does that means it is also competing with other PCIe components for example, multiple GPU for the PCIe lanes?  hmm.gif
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https://www.google.com.my/search?q=x99+m.2+...iw=1280&bih=923
M.2 slot, FYI

It will probably shares the same lanes or has its own controller over different lane(s), most likely (IMO) it should be different controller, doesn't want too much interrupt to decrease the overall GPU performance. sweat.gif
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post Nov 6 2014, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Nov 6 2014, 07:31 AM)
Tq bro for feedback.. =)
There r 2 types of pcie SSD.
1- PCIE SSD that connects to M.2 socket.
2- PCIE SSD that connects to PCIE slots. (just like a graphic card)

Which type is better & faster??
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in terms of speed, both should be the same if the slots provide the same bandwidth (same pcie version). (it depends on ssd capability also)

imo the second one will be more flexible if you have a desktop computer. you can provide bandwidth up to pci-e 3.0 x16 to the ssd. (at least for now. currently in enterprise landscape i think we are going to have pci-e 3.0 x8 ssd)

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QUOTE(rurushu @ Nov 6 2014, 09:59 AM)
thanks horns for the patience explanation, will read up more on them to better grasp the concepts!  notworthy.gif

are M.2 slots only for smalls? because the recent X99 motherboard offerings from Asus and Asrock have included M.2 slots as well...

and just a quick question, when it says using PCIe SSDs, it gains the speed of PCIe bus' speed, but does that means it is also competing with other PCIe components for example, multiple GPU for the PCIe lanes?  hmm.gif
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small form factor storage like this are necessary, since these days everything is going slimmer, and the trend of storage is moving towards nas/cloud. (think aio desktops)

yes for current implementations m.2 and pci-e slot share the same pci-e lanes. for normal users, i think there is no need for most of us to worry about this lane sharing thing. it's sufficient for general use. for instance, i can set up my desktop to have dual-gpu sli/cfx, and run 1x pci-e ssd at the same time, with no conflicts.
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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Oct 13 2014, 09:51 AM)
my Transcend SSD340, without 7% provisioning & cheapest ssd rm215 I found. i suppose this better than the v300 506  sweat.gif

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I also looking at getting Transcend SSD to refresh my Macbook Black HDD, do u know the diff between 320, 340 and 370? Thanks.
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post Nov 6 2014, 12:10 PM

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Bro Horns!!

Any other SSD you can recommend other than Intel 730? Seems like this SSD no instock need orer 2-3 weeks from hikari85

Thx
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post Nov 6 2014, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(nvidia134 @ Nov 6 2014, 12:10 PM)
Bro Horns!!

Any other SSD you can recommend other than Intel 730? Seems like this SSD no instock need orer 2-3 weeks from hikari85

Thx
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I just ordered from lingloong for Intel 730 for 1 of my customer, probably on its way.
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post Nov 6 2014, 02:22 PM

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To all fellow Sifusss,

I have a mobo of Asus P7P55D as link below

http://www.asus.com/my/Motherboards/P7P55D/

I purchased Kingston 120Gb HyperX SSD, and done setup accordingly.

But, i faced a problem whereby the startup window goes bluescreen right after the microsoft logo came out. What is the possible cause for this?

I am now suspecting that i plugged in to normal Sata port instead of Sata III.

PLease help~
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post Nov 6 2014, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(nvidia134 @ Nov 6 2014, 12:10 PM)
Bro Horns!!

Any other SSD you can recommend other than Intel 730? Seems like this SSD no instock need orer 2-3 weeks from hikari85

Thx
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wildwestgoh knows where to get ready stocks for you smile.gif (however i think intel 730 is pricey, no?)

i did suggest you several choices previously. (samsung 850 pro, plextor m6pro, and crucial m550) those are imo the better ones that fit your budgets as of now.
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QUOTE(rootlinux @ Nov 6 2014, 11:41 AM)
I also looking at getting Transcend SSD to refresh my Macbook Black HDD, do u know the diff between 320, 340 and 370? Thanks.
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340 370 both JMicron JMF667H(bigger capacity limited) & Silicon Motion controller, later version does 30-40MB/s faster. I don't use VM/heavy multitask, can skip the cache trick. 320 slower & current price not worth for it.

fyi 340 (on dell 7520SE) after boot up temp abt 44-45c, gaming abt 55-57c, might quite high for some user.



some of u may take a look panasonic ssd + caddy on lelong, the bundle seem good. (ocz good? hmm.gif )
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QUOTE(snnchw88 @ Nov 6 2014, 02:22 PM)
To all fellow Sifusss,

I have a mobo of Asus P7P55D as link below
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I purchased Kingston 120Gb HyperX SSD, and done setup accordingly.

But, i faced a problem whereby the startup window goes bluescreen right after the microsoft logo came out. What is the possible cause for this?

I am now suspecting that i plugged in to normal Sata port instead of Sata III.

PLease help~
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maybe others can help you better if you describe what you have done to set it up accordingly. did you set the sata mode in bios to ahci? did you reinstall a fresh OS after that? what do you mean by "normal sata port instead of sata iii"?

i have checked the manual of your mobo it seems that it has no sata iii ports. all are sata ii. from a brief search most people suggested that you connect the ssd to the blue ports.


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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Nov 6 2014, 02:35 PM)
340 370 both JMicron JMF667H(bigger capacity limited) & Silicon Motion controller, later version does 30-40MB/s faster. I don't use VM/heavy multitask, can skip the cache trick. 320 slower & current price not worth for it.

fyi 340 (on dell 7520SE) after boot up temp abt 44-45c, gaming abt 55-57c, might quite high for some user.
some of u may take a look panasonic ssd + caddy on lelong, the bundle seem good. (ocz good?  hmm.gif )
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ok thanks...
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post Nov 6 2014, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 6 2014, 02:58 PM)
maybe others can help you better if you describe what you have done to set it up accordingly. did you set the sata mode in bios to ahci? did you reinstall a fresh OS after that? what do you mean by "normal sata port instead of sata iii"?

i have checked the manual of your mobo it seems that it has no sata iii ports. all are sata ii. from a brief search most people suggested that you connect the ssd to the blue ports.
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Hi, bro..

Thanks for the reply.

Yea, i did set the sata mode to AHCI, btw.. i tried all, even RAID and IDE~ and i install fresh OS as well.

I got only SATA II port, but from my understanding, it affect the read/write speeds only but not affect the window start up speed or turn out to bluescreen when start up~
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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 6 2014, 02:58 PM)
maybe others can help you better if you describe what you have done to set it up accordingly. did you set the sata mode in bios to ahci? did you reinstall a fresh OS after that? what do you mean by "normal sata port instead of sata iii"?

i have checked the manual of your mobo it seems that it has no sata iii ports. all are sata ii. from a brief search most people suggested that you connect the ssd to the blue ports.
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SATA3 6Gb/s port(s) are grey color.
SATA2 are blue color.

SSD preferably connect to GREY color.
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QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Nov 6 2014, 03:18 PM)
SATA3 6Gb/s port(s) are  grey color.
SATA2 are blue color.

SSD preferably connect to GREY color.
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Hi, Chin,

Yea. I know that. I wondering if it will affect the boot up speed as well? just for my knowledge if it is so ~
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post Nov 6 2014, 03:28 PM

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SATA2 is only 3Gb/s, SATA3 is 6Gb/s.

Sata3 is better.
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post Nov 6 2014, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(snnchw88 @ Nov 6 2014, 03:17 PM)
Hi, bro..

Thanks for the reply.

Yea, i did set the sata mode to AHCI, btw.. i tried all, even RAID and IDE~ and i install fresh OS as well.

I got only SATA II port, but from my understanding, it affect the read/write speeds only but not affect the window start up speed or turn out to bluescreen when start up~
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very sorry because i have no idea what i'm talking about regarding your mobo. maybe you need to check with chinkw1 about this port thing.

normally what we do are quite simple:
1. make sure sata configuration for the ssd is set to ahci in bios first;
2. install a fresh copy of windows.

that's it.

it's correct sata2 runs slower, but i think it's still much faster than hdd.

QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Nov 6 2014, 03:18 PM)
SATA3 6Gb/s port(s) are  grey color.
SATA2 are blue color.

SSD preferably connect to GREY color.
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oh ok thanks for the clarifications smile.gif what confused me was that according to the manual that mobo has only sata2 ports. (intel and jmicron)

asus manual qc tak pass :/

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