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 PROTON SAVVY LYN club, D4F, JB1 repair manual inside

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post Mar 13 2008, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE([ r u g a ] @ Mar 13 2008, 04:54 PM)
ic so any idea where to get the parts? i mean the muffler?Rm153 is really cheap for such upgrade thumbup.gif
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AFAIK, those R3 mufflers have been snapped up like hot cakes.
You can always ring up R3 division for latest info, 012-2131691.

BTW, good job done by Hypermount to update the Savvy owner's list here.
Anyone interested to explore the innards of our D4f engine, can take a look at the D4f repair manual.
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post Mar 15 2008, 01:00 PM

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i wonder new batch of Savvy is using what engine? Ranault or Campro ?
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post Mar 15 2008, 01:33 PM

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i wonder new batch of Savvy is using what engine? Ranault or Campro ?
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AFAIK only Renault 1.2l D4f engine can fit inside Savvy's engine bay.
Campro will not be able to fit into the small engine bay.
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QUOTE(gary_cheah85 @ Mar 15 2008, 01:33 PM)
AFAIK only Renault 1.2l D4f engine can fit inside Savvy's engine bay.
Campro will not be able to fit into the small engine bay.
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smile.gif Thanks for your information... yup i heard this before too...
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post Mar 15 2008, 02:18 PM

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Found our gearbox service manual also..
our manual gearbox is pretty established - pre-99 so I guess it's pretty reliable used in all Renault range of vehicles.

Just that our engine and gearbox variants are newer from 2002 onwards and AMT actuator is latter tech.

Later upload.
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post Mar 15 2008, 05:39 PM

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i want to ask if buying savvy is it good or not?
When i said good i mean since new saga n persona are out with very low price, it'll somehow kill alot of savvy market rite?
so..will this affect the spare parts supply in the future. or if savvy is cut out from proton production like a few car before this.

by the way, what is the fc of savvy /100km?
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post Mar 15 2008, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(nonadoes @ Mar 15 2008, 05:39 PM)
i want to ask if buying savvy is it good or not?
When i said good i mean since new saga n persona are out with very low price, it'll somehow kill alot of savvy market rite?
so..will this affect the spare parts supply in the future. or if savvy is cut out from proton production like a few car before this.

by the way, what is the fc of savvy /100km?
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No they didn't stop the Juara production and they must had spent a lot in toolings and production.

Savvy will supplement the Saga

Almost all the Saga parts are taken directly from Savvy...the steering rack, the suspensions, front and back, dashboard, interiors etc....even the steering feels, feedback also similar - heavy and stable at high speed.

The ride is almost the same, only thing savvy handles better with the fixed -ve camber setup of the rear and larger rims...

The fuel system and delivery, the gas tank is also similar - when really empty Saga owners can't refuel more than RM55 hehe like savvy...and the meters, fuel indicator works similar also..2 bar then 1 bar flash empty then back to 2 bar for early warning indicator.

So I'm pretty sure all this will drive savvy part price down further.

The radiator, fans, and other auxiliary parts are made by APM and other local company.

Only thing is the gearbox and engine are Renault.

And the manual gearbox pawns saga gearbox - manual savvy has better gear shifting feel...saga's just downright too vague, soft, lembik like other japs gearboxes...not too mention AMT has 5 speed manual gearbox with properly ratio-ed for city drive compare to Saga's torque converter 4 spped...low end torque savvy definitely's also much much better!

My savvy's FC is around 15km per litre for city drive and 20km/l for long distance journey...or 6l/100km and 5l/100km.


Added on March 15, 2008, 6:11 pmIt's like jazz complements the city..not all will opt for jazz if not why you're asking about savvy.

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post Mar 15 2008, 06:20 PM

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cool...thanx for the info. Is good that there is a lot similarity between savvy and saga. At least you don't need to concern of spare parts later.

waa...Savvy fc is good and the price is relatively low too. Thanx for the info
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post Mar 16 2008, 03:44 AM

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We're using JBx series gearbox.

yup there're more other things being shared by both cars.

how could they manage to reduce a sedan weight, clio 3-box to near 900kg..and powered by similar 1.2 engine..

no wonder it's only sold in third world countries..
http://www.renault.com/renault_com/en/imag...1120-443037.pdf

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post Mar 19 2008, 11:43 PM

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just get my red savvy MT last saturday...
i really love this car...
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post Mar 20 2008, 06:35 AM

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my sister just got the car on feb.. the AMT version.. can my name be put at the front page?
btw, anyone know how's the AMT fuel consumption? the fuel meter cannot be trusted la.. sometimes blinking with 2 bars, then 1 bar, then up 2 bar balik..
and the my sis savvy seems to have a very high fc..
pump in RM20, manage to get 77km, then its already blinking.. can anyone clarify this? what is the real fc for AMT savvy?
apart from that, it is a really good car with good pickup and handling..
definitely can match with my lightly modded kelisa
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post Mar 20 2008, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(ApeKG @ Mar 20 2008, 06:35 AM)
my sister just got the car on feb.. the AMT version.. can my name be put at the front page?
btw, anyone know how's the AMT fuel consumption? the fuel meter cannot be trusted la.. sometimes blinking with 2 bars, then 1 bar, then up 2 bar balik..
and the my sis savvy seems to have a very high fc..
pump in RM20, manage to get 77km, then its already blinking.. can anyone clarify this? what is the real fc for AMT savvy?
apart from that, it is a really good car with good pickup and handling..
definitely can match with my lightly modded kelisa
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hehe.... u represent ur sis in LYN? ask her join LYN also lah.
AMT fuel comsumption is quite low, u pump RM50 normal unleaded petrol(BHP) can travel 350km(city jam + highway).
the fuel meter is normal as u described, when reaching lower limit, it will blink (2bar) for the 1st time.
that is the gentle reminder only.
after a while it will stop blinking, jump back to 2 bar, normal also.
then u drive some more, until the meter left 1 bar.(low fuel indicator lights up, non-blinking)
that is when u need to pump petrol, but u can easily travel another 50-70km in this situation, so no worries.
u pump Rm20 is like a squirt of petrol only........
AFAIK, the fuel tank is 40liter capacity, low fuel indicator lights up when there is 12-13 liters left.
of course the fuel meter is not very accurate, so do not drive ur car until the tank dries up.
BTW, try to inflate ur tires to recommended pressure.

Anyway, savvy can p4wn kelisa anytime icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on March 20, 2008, 9:37 am
QUOTE(blackorange @ Mar 19 2008, 11:43 PM)
just get my red savvy MT last saturday...
i really love this car...
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welcome to the club biggrin.gif
do u think the MT clutch is heavy and precise as any sports oriented car?

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post Mar 20 2008, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(gary_cheah85 @ Mar 20 2008, 09:36 AM)
welcome to the club  biggrin.gif
do u think the MT clutch is heavy and precise as any sports oriented car?
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thanks!

i dont think the clutch is heavy. even when stuck in a jam at federal highway in the morning and evening, i still dont feel anything.
i dont know how to compare it with sports oriented car because i've never drive one. the only thing that i've drive is Mazda bongo van.

but the feeling is very good. so stable. i dont even realise i drive more than 110km/h.

now thinking of tinting my car with ecotint. is it good?
and what tint color is suitable with red? gold?

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post Mar 20 2008, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(gary_cheah85 @ Mar 20 2008, 09:36 AM)
hehe.... u represent ur sis in LYN? ask her join LYN also lah.
AMT fuel comsumption is quite low, u pump RM50 normal unleaded petrol(BHP) can travel 350km(city jam + highway).
the fuel meter is normal as u described, when reaching lower limit, it will blink (2bar) for the 1st time.
that is the gentle reminder only.
after a while it will stop blinking, jump back to 2 bar, normal also.
then u drive some more, until the meter left 1 bar.(low fuel indicator lights up, non-blinking)
that is when u need to pump petrol, but u can easily travel another 50-70km in this situation, so no worries.
u pump Rm20 is like a squirt of petrol only........
AFAIK, the fuel tank is 40liter capacity, low fuel indicator lights up when there is 12-13 liters left.
of course the fuel meter is not very accurate, so do not drive ur car until the tank dries up.
BTW, try to inflate ur tires to recommended pressure.

Anyway, savvy can p4wn kelisa anytime  icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on March 20, 2008, 9:37 am

welcome to the club  biggrin.gif
do u think the MT clutch is heavy and precise as any sports oriented car?
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haha she's not into car club la. she's busy with her work and jus know how to drive only. so im the one who will take care of the car.
the fuel consumption is quite high ler compared to my kelisa.. my kelisa can easily reach 500km on a rm50 petrol
if rm20 can get 200km effortlessly no matter city jam or highway.. rm20 is not like a squirt of petrol in a kelisa tongue.gif ..
anyway back to the savvy, yes i agree the savvy can easily pawn kelisa on stock, but i think it still on par with my lightly modded kelisa
oh and i really like the 'luxury' or 'european' feelings when drive savvy as well. smooth driving and not shaking while on high speed. drive 140kmh also still stable. two thumbs up thumbup.gif
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post Mar 20 2008, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(blackorange @ Mar 20 2008, 09:51 AM)
thanks!

i dont think the clutch is heavy. even when stuck in a jam at federal highway in the morning and evening, i still dont feel anything.
i dont know how to compare it with sports oriented car because i've never drive one. the only thing that i've drive is Mazda bongo van.

but the feeling is very good. so stable. i dont even realise i drive more than 110km/h.

now thinking of tinting my car with ecotint. is it good?
and what tint color is suitable with red? gold?
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yeah, savvy is still steady at speed above our legal limits, so beware u must becareful with ur right leg.
tinting wise, its quite subjective.
my car is green apple, so i tinted it light green to match the paint.
perhaps red(paint) + black/dark(tint)?
BTW, respect the jpj tinting rules b4 dumping money for tinting


Added on March 20, 2008, 2:23 pm
QUOTE(ApeKG @ Mar 20 2008, 11:55 AM)
haha she's not into car club la. she's busy with her work and jus know how to drive only. so im the one who will take care of the car.
the fuel consumption is quite high ler compared to my kelisa.. my kelisa can easily reach 500km on a rm50 petrol
if rm20 can get 200km effortlessly no matter city jam or highway.. rm20 is not like a squirt of petrol in a kelisa  tongue.gif ..
anyway back to the savvy, yes i agree the savvy can easily pawn kelisa on stock, but i think it still on par with my lightly modded kelisa
oh and i really like the 'luxury' or 'european' feelings when drive savvy as well. smooth driving and not shaking while on high speed. drive 140kmh also still stable. two thumbs up  thumbup.gif
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u cannot compare a 1.2liter car with a 1 liter car sweat.gif
of coz savvy can reach 500km using rm50 petrol, all depends on your style of driving.
http://star-motoring.com/news/story.asp?fi...7&sec=motornews
BTW, this car can reach 170, yet still stable but not recommended on public roads

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of cos cannot bro.. but rm20 for below 100km?? its like 10L/100km.. its like driving a 2.0l engine already.. i expect at least with 10L of fuel can reach 130-150km..


Added on March 20, 2008, 3:05 pmhow come in the article you give me it claims to be 4.2L/100km while mine 10L/100km..at least 7-6 is acceptable for an AMT model. is there anything wrong with my sis savvy? btw, the style of driving is conservative with occasional speeding..

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QUOTE(ApeKG @ Mar 20 2008, 03:01 PM)
of cos cannot bro.. but rm20 for below 100km?? its like 10L/100km.. its like driving a 2.0l engine already.. i expect at least with 10L of fuel can reach 130-150km..


Added on March 20, 2008, 3:05 pmhow come in the article you give me it claims to be 4.2L/100km while mine 10L/100km..at least 7-6 is acceptable for an AMT model. is there anything wrong with my sis savvy? btw, the style of driving is conservative with occasional speeding..
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don't worry so much about the mileage.
As i have said before, our fuel indicator is not accurate, so u cannot use it to calculate the exact fuel consumption.
From my own experience, RM20 can definitely go over 100km, even if stuck in traffic jam all the time.
to get a better calculation, u need to relatively empty your fuel tank, then pump full tank of petrol.
repeat for 3-4 times to get an average which is much more accurate.

I'm driving AMT also, gear changes done in fully auto mode.
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is this a common problem? everytime i left my car idle, the temp goes from normal 3 bar to higher, 4-5 bar, sometimes even at a full 6 bar!! does the engine gets hot when its idle or is it reading problem..
what shud i do
car is september 2005, Manual, 41k km, black

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QUOTE(phas3r @ Mar 21 2008, 12:12 AM)
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is this a common problem? everytime i left my car idle, the temp goes from normal 3 bar to higher, 4-5 bar, sometimes even at a full 6 bar!! does the engine gets hot when its idle or is it reading problem..
what shud i do
car is september 2005, Manual, 41k km, black
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have u check with proton sc?
i'm no expert in car. but, when temp goes more than 3 bar, that is problem.
maybe radiator problem?

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QUOTE(phas3r @ Mar 21 2008, 12:12 AM)
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is this a common problem? everytime i left my car idle, the temp goes from normal 3 bar to higher, 4-5 bar, sometimes even at a full 6 bar!! does the engine gets hot when its idle or is it reading problem..
what shud i do
car is september 2005, Manual, 41k km, black
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how long did u left ur car idle?
BTW my temperature gauge never goes beyond 3bars.
Plz check the coolant level of the radiator.
Does the radiator fan automatically turns on to lower the heat?

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