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post Aug 22 2013, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(paintballtao @ Aug 22 2013, 11:36 PM)
When the laptop comes with a small size ssd, eg 32gb, does it mean that the OS is already or can be installed on the ssd?
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No. OS mostly are NOT installed on the 32G mSATA SSD on factory setting. It is generally used for caching.
For certain models, you can go into BIOS and turn the caching off and make the small mSATA SSD available for storage.
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post Aug 22 2013, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(aurorenoire @ Aug 22 2013, 11:33 PM)
Uhm... what's Ivy Bridge spec? And Haswell? >_> Btw, was looking at the slightly cheaper i5 version of the Asus N-series that you recommended - mostly the same specs with slower processor, but gives me more room (budget) to fiddle with the stuff I want to add. Would it be a decent choice?
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Ivy Bridge - the generation of Intel CPU that carry i3/5/7-3xxxx.
Haswell - the newer generation of Intel CPU that carry i3/5/7-4xxxx. Main feature - improve battery running time a lot.

Do you mean this one?
N56VB-S3070H, i5-3230M + Nvidia GT740M@RM2899[/b][2.7kg][B&O], 4GB, 750GB, W8

1 thing I forgot to mention, gaming performance depends a lot on the resolution that you play in.
For Guild Wars 2, if you play at FHD (1920x1080), at medium setting, you need a really powerful GPU.
If you play at HD (1366x768), at medium setting, you can make do with a lot less tongue.gif with GT740M, can expect ~ 40fps.
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post Aug 22 2013, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(xFreedomBoix @ Aug 22 2013, 11:45 PM)
okay thanks alot ! brows.gif
edited : nvr noticed asus haswell series lol
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You are right, Asus G series Haswell spec still not pop up in Malaysia. But expect them to be slightly more expensive than current Ivy Bridge G series when it land in Malaysia (MYR really depreciate a lot lately)

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GE60-2OC, i5-4200M + Nvidia GT750M(GDDR5) + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM3099,8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, steel series KB

my apology. the RM3.1k GE60 is spec with i5-4200M. Good enough to pair with GT750M for gaming purpose.

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post Aug 23 2013, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(jy93 @ Aug 22 2013, 11:32 PM)
Hi guys, i need some recommendations on  the most suitable laptop for chemical engineering student.

Brand: Any except acer (i need a laptop with good international warranty especially in the UK)
Processor: i7
Usage: Simulation + designing software
Screen Size: 14" or 15.6"
Budget:  Below 3.5k

And also it is advisable to get a laptop with built in or detachable battery ? (As simulation program can sometimes run for a few hours, my main concern is that if i were to get a laptop with built in battery, then i will have to keep charging the battery while my simulation runs when i go for classes which might take be almost 5-6 hours, and i am afraid that this would affect the battery life in the long run.)

So, i am really hoping that someone could recommend a few laptops model which is suitable for me.

Thank you for your time.  smile.gif
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Intense rendering for extend period of time - Need very good external cooling for laptop (e.g. cooling pad, table fan ... ) or you may find a dead machine when you get back tongue.gif
Detach the battery and run on AC is good to preserve battery charging cycle, but if AC power get cut off, say bye bye to your simulation. So it is a pro / con that you have to consider.

All brands has international warranty, just that some come standard, some you have to pay to upgrade tongue.gif

Asus (please confirm it is 2 years International warranty)
PRO45VJ-V0049X, i7-3520QM + Nvidia GT635M@RM3099[2.4kg], 8GB, 750GB, W7P
N550JV-CN077H, i7-4702MQ + Nvidia GT750M + (1920x1080; IPS matte) + Bluray@RM3699[2.7kg], 4GB, 1TB, W8, backlit keyboard

Dell (extend standard 1 year warranty to 3 years for ~ RM300, it become international warranty)
Inspiron 15R (Special Edition), i7-3612QM + AMD HD7730M@RM2799, 8GB, 1TB(5400rpm); backlit keyboard optional, W8
Inspiron 15R (Special Edition), i7-3612QM + AMD HD7730M + (1920x1080; anti-glare) + 32GB SSD + 1TB HDD(5400rpm)@RM3199, 8GB, backlit keyboard optional, W8

Prices are RSP, negotiable.

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QUOTE(paintballtao @ Aug 23 2013, 12:19 AM)
In this case, what is need to provide ssd for caching?
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Huh? don't understand.
For those mSATA SSD, you either use it for caching or use it for storage.
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post Aug 23 2013, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(paintballtao @ Aug 23 2013, 12:16 PM)
Lol cuz i dont know what caching is, and any benefit of offering ssd for it. Can the ssd be used to install certain softwares so that it runs faster?
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caching - Intel Rapid Storage. Automatically create a copy of most frequently access data / files / apps on the ssd, so that when these data / files / apps get called, they are accessed faster. Problem is when trying to access files that are not cached, go back to HDD crawling. Also since the 32G ssd size is so small, even cached data could get push out once you stop accessing them a while replacing by other frequent access data / files / apps. In this mode, you will not even see the SSD in OS file manager.

storage - once user go into BIOS and turn off caching, the SSD just become another drive. Of course you could install apps or store files on it.

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post Aug 24 2013, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(ianosfera @ Aug 24 2013, 02:10 PM)
Went to PC Fair to find GE70-2OE...they told me that I have to pre-order for it...but they're recommending GX70-3BE instead with the same price as GE70-2OE which is RM 4.5k....should I go for it?
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GE70-2OE, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GTX765M + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM4499,8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, backlit keyboard
GX70-3BE, AMD A10-5750M + AMD XT HD8970 + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM4899, 8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, steel series & backlit KB

GX70-3BE has more powerful GPU, but is seriously capped by the weak A10 CPU.

Consider this one instead:
GS70-2OC, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GTX765M + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM4699[2.66kg][Dynaudio], 8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, steel series multi color backlit KB
(check out the weight)
(I thought your friend is leaving the country today? sweat.gif )
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post Aug 24 2013, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(siaoand1 @ Aug 24 2013, 12:29 PM)
1. Preferred Brand - Any brand which suits the needs
2. Budget - Around RM 2500
3. Usage - Bootable for Linux & windows, object rendering and some light net surfing, no games played on this since i got desktop for that ^^~
4. Preferred laptop/screen size - 13" or 14"
5. Light Weight and portable and battery life shud b able to last at least 4 hrs
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Still need reasonable GPU if need to do rendering tongue.gif

Dell
Vostro 5460, i5-3230M +Nvidia GT630M@RM1899[1.54kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), Ubuntu 12.04, 3 cell; W8SL@RM2099
Vostro 5460, i5-3337U + Nvidia GT630M + (32GB mSATA SSD + 500GB(5400rpm))@RM2199[1.54kg], 4GB, W8SL, 3 cell
Prices are RSP, negotiable.

The M CPU spec has Ubuntu spec right out of the box, the ULV CPU spec has better battery running time, but only spec with W8 (but you can at least be comforted that its sibling work with Linux)

Anyway, for any brands / models of laptops, it is typically up to users to make Linux work laugh.gif
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QUOTE(shunkori @ Aug 24 2013, 12:21 PM)
I'm just asking only. cause not sure should I buy my laptop here or there. any recommendations?
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If budget is a concern, it is definitely cheaper to buy in Malaysia and upgrade to get International Warranty. Just make sure the brand / model has SC in UK.
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QUOTE(ShotaKuhn @ Aug 24 2013, 12:27 PM)
Preferred brand: None
Budget: Rm4k+-
Usage: Gaming, Mostly for multimedia purpose, Photoshop/illustrator
Preferred size: 15" or bigger
*Kinda want something with good sound quality.

Recommendation will be appreciated! Thanks in advance.
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Acer
V7-582PG-74508G52k, i7-4500U + Nvidia GT750M + 24GB mSATA + 500GB HDD + (1920x1080 IPS; touch)@RM3399, 8GB, W8

Asus
N550JV-CN077H, i7-4702MQ + Nvidia GT750M + (1920x1080; IPS matte) + Bluray@RM3699[2.7kg], 4GB, 1TB, W8, backlit keyboard

MSI
GE60-2OC, i5-4200M + Nvidia GT750M(GDDR5) + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM3099,8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, steel series KB
GE60-2OC, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GT750M(GDDR5) + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM3599,8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, steel series KB
GE60-2OE, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GTX765M + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM4299,8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, backlit keyboard
GE70-2OE, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GTX765M + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM4499,8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, backlit keyboard
GS70-2OC, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GTX765M + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM4699[2.66kg][Dynaudio], 8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, steel series multi color backlit KB

www.illegear.com
Illegear RE-15, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GTX765M + (1920x1080;matte)@RM3599[Onkyo], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), FreeDOS [CPU Options: i7-4700MQ - i7-4900MQ][/color]
Illegear RE-17, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GTX765M + (1920x1080)@RM3799[Onkyo], 4GB, 500(5400rpm), FreeDOS [CPU Options: i7-4700MQ - i7-4900MQ

Prices are RSP, negotiable.
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post Aug 24 2013, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(shunkori @ Aug 24 2013, 02:58 PM)
G46 or N550. does 14" affects gaming experience?
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instead of pondering, why don't you go out and look at the real thing to decide? smile.gif
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QUOTE(sirknieghf @ Aug 25 2013, 03:38 PM)
1. Any brand
2. Budget: 5.5k max but considering a laptop under 5k..wanna save money abit tongue.gif
3. gaming, programming, photoshop
4. Screen: any but prefer 15"

mainly for gaming laptop and looking for good laptop with superb airflow to prevent overheating and hardware failure
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www.illegear.com
Illegear RE-15, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GTX765M + (1920x1080;matte)@RM3599[Onkyo], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), FreeDOS [CPU Options: i7-4700MQ - i7-4900MQ][/color
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2613184
Good thermal dissipate, opt for NTSC 95% gamut screen + calibration for top notch colour reproduction (good for photoshop, and all the glorious games). Spend remaining budget on SSD.

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QUOTE(natedrake @ Aug 25 2013, 03:14 PM)
hi sifu is 1007u processor is enough for programming wise eclipse, tomcat and mysql usage? with just some normal office work
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All depends on level of usage tongue.gif
MS Office - just don't open too many apps, it should be fine.
Eclipse - should be fine, just don't expect too much, ok?
Tomcat - if server is not for CPU intensive stuff (eg. only file, email, etc that kind of things), should be ok.
MySQL - just don't put too much server side computation.
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QUOTE(martian7793 @ Aug 25 2013, 12:50 AM)
both i oso like  hmm.gif  laugh.gif
so both have the same graphic card?that day i went to shop to ask..the salesman says z400 graphic card is gt740..n s40t have a gt740m..which more powerful..is it true? hmm.gif
n i oso wan to ask that..does z400 or s40t have backlit keyboard?
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Both are GT740M (GT740 is a desktop GPU, big difference tongue.gif )

No backlit keyboard.
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QUOTE(tribal94 @ Aug 25 2013, 04:30 PM)
Any recommendation where to buy this one with freeDOS?
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Check out the re-sellers at LYN garage sales threads smile.gif
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QUOTE(ryzer47 @ Aug 25 2013, 03:30 AM)
Lenovo
Z500, i5-3230M + Nvidia GT740M@RM2299[2.2kg], 4GB, 1TB, backlit, W8; 2 years warranty

Toshiba
Satellite L50-A100X/XW, i5-3230M + Nvidia GT740M@RM2199[Onkyo], 4GB, 750GB, W8SL; 3 years local warranty

which one more better?
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Both has the same CPU+GPU.
It's up to your preference on other stuffs (screen, keyboard, touchpad, speakers, look, ... ). Go out and check on the real things to decide icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(ladyfairyna @ Aug 25 2013, 11:21 AM)
1. Any brand
2. Budget: less than 2.5k
3. For documents, excel, watching movie, surfing internet
4. Screen: 12-14"
4GB RAM, fast boot
Preferably long battery life and lightweight
International warranty for at least 1 year
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Don't need powerful CPU or discrete GPU.
For fast boot - opt for SSD. If laptop don't come standard spec with SSD, you could swap in SSD to replace the HDD aftermarket, normally will not void laptop hardware warranty. SSD 128G ~ RM300, 256G ~ RM600.

Acer
V5-131-10074G50, 1007U + Intel HD@RM1149, 4GB, 500GB, W8SL
V5-132P-3322Y6G50b, i3-3229Y + Intel HD4000 + (1366x768)@RM1799, 6GB, 500GB, W8
V5-171-53312G50s, i5-3317U + Intel HD4000@RM1799, 2GB, 500GB, W8
S3-371-53334G50, i5-3337U + Intel HD4000@RM1999, 4GB, 500GB, W8

Asus
VivoBook S200E, i3-3217U + Intel HD4000 + (1366x768; touch)@RM1699[1.38kg], 4GB, 500GB, W8; colors: Grey/Pink/White, 2-cell, 1 year
S300CA-C1050H, i3-3217U + Intel HD4000 + (1366x768;touch)@RM1999, 4GB, 500GB, W8

Dell
Vostro 5460, i3-3120M + HD 4000@RM1,549[1.54kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), Ubuntu 12.04, 3 cell; W8SL@RM1,749

Lenovo
Yoga 11s, i3-3229Y + Intel HD4000 + 128GB SSD + (1366x768, IPS touch)@RM2599, 4GB, W8, 2 years; colors: grey/orange
S300, 1007U + Intel HD @RM899[1.8kg], 2GB,500GB(5400rpm), freeDOS; W8@RM1099

Prices are RSP, negotiable.
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QUOTE(lawr0202 @ Aug 26 2013, 02:13 PM)
ICIC, thanks for the info

In your earlier post comparing MSI GE60 2OC i7 and ASUS N550JV-CN077H, you mentioned about the MSI is running on a real, quad-core i7 whereas the ASUS has a relatively "power-saving" i7

But aren't both them have the "MQ" suffix (i7-4700MQ & i7-4702MQ respectively)?
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huh? hmm.gif
There got to be some misunderstanding here laugh.gif
Just to make this clear.
An i7 that has a U suffix is only duo core.
An i7 that has MQ (or QM) suffix is quad core.
i7-4700MQ and i7-4702MQ both are quad core.
i7-4700MQ run slightly faster (2.4GHz turbo to 3.4GHz) compared to i704702MQ (2.2GHz turbo to 3.2GHz), but draw more power (47W TDP vs 37W TDP). Pro - better peak performance (if temp is under control and no throttling). Con - shorter battery running time.
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QUOTE(Gabranth @ Aug 25 2013, 08:39 PM)
hi guys. i need help on choosing between lenovo models:

G405s, A8-5550M + AMD HD8570M@RM1699, 4GB, 500GB, W8
G400s, i5-3230M + Nvidia GT720M@RM1799, 4GB, 500GB, W8

Usage: for photo & video editing. simple autocad drawing and multitasking and light online gaming.

i went to lowyat plaza the salesman suggest me to get the A8-5550M bcoz it got 4 cores (good for multitasking i guess) compare to i5-3230 (which only has 2 cores) isnt true?

BTW about the gpu. i check on the internet, the AMD HD8570M gpu is a bad gpu compared to Nvidia GT720M. Plus, isnt true AMD processors easily get overheating problems?

any comments from sifus I would appreciate it very much  notworthy.gif
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There are so many wrong with this sweat.gif

That LYP salesman either is a delusional AMD CPU fan, or an ignorant moron sweat.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
Yes, the A8-5550M has 4 cores, i5-3230M only has 2 cores. But the performance of each A8 cores is low compare to each Intel i-core. And even if an application is written to able to take advantage of all 4 cores, the A8 will be just hanging with an i3 M Ivy Bridge.

And no, more cores does not make better multi-tasking. If an apps is not written for multiple cores, even if you run on a multi-cores CPU, it will only utilise 1 core. And if you use an i7 quad core but pair it with 2G RAM, try multi-tasking and you will cry laugh.gif

On the other hand, the AMD HD8570M is NOT a bad GPU compared to Nvidia GT720M. They are on par.
And no, AMD GCN GPU does not "easily get overheating problem".

Anyway, if those are you only choices, take the G400s. And slap in more RAM for your multi-tasking icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Alternation @ Aug 29 2013, 11:42 PM)
1. Preferred Brand: Asus or any reliable Acer laptop
2. Budget ± RM 2500
3. Features: light ultrabook, flip screen would be bonus.
4. Preferred laptop/screen size : 13 or 14 inch

Thanks
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what do you mean by "flip screen"? hmm.gif

Acer
S3-371-53334G50, i5-3337U + Intel HD4000@RM1999, 4GB, 500GB, W8
V5-471P, i3-3227U + Intel HD4000 + (1366x768; touch)@RM1899, 4GB, 500GB, W8
V5-471G-53334G50, i3-3227U + Intel HD4000 + (1366x768; touch)@RM1899, 4GB, 500GB, W8
V5-473PG-54204G50, i5-4200 + Nvidia GT740M +(1366x768;touch)@RM2299, 4GB, 500GB,W8 *no OD

Asus
S300CA-C1033H, i5-3317U + Intel HD4000 + (1366x768;touch)@RM2299, 4GB, 500GB, W8
S300CA-C1050H, i3-3217U + Intel HD4000 + (1366x768;touch)@RM1999, 4GB, 500GB, W8
K46CB-WX060H, i5-3337U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2199[2kg], 2GB, 750GB, W8, 4-cell, OD
S400CA-CA006H, i5-3317U + Intel HD4000 + 24GB mSATA + 500GB + (1366x768; touch)@RM2199[2kg], 4GB, W8

Prices are RSP, negotiable.
Spend the remaining of your budget to swap out HDD with SSD (128G ~ RM300, 256G ~ RM600).

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