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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V133, Bear coming?

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yok70
post Jun 26 2013, 03:08 PM

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some stocks the support level is just so obvious. i guess it's local funds instead of retailers.
and they just support, not moving up further. so it stays at "cautiously neutral" stage i guess. hmm.gif
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post Jun 26 2013, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 02:59 PM)
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Still cannot.  laugh.gif

Look at month of April.
End March 1,671.63. April closed at 1,717.65.

Aiyoyo. KLCI up 46 pts for April.
Which is more than March.

How did Pong Sway chart draw April? tongue.gif

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Kena condemn cry.gif
Kasi chance sikit lah bang tongue.gif

Let's put it another way, any forecast/prediction will never be 100% dead on accurate, so allows some significant variance. icon_idea.gif Take the average slope of the rise from March till August and draw a normalized line. icon_idea.gif

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Disclaimer: Am just fooling around, not trying to prove that the chart is accurate. shakehead.gif

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post Jun 26 2013, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jun 26 2013, 03:10 PM)
Kena condemn  cry.gif
Kasi chance sikit lah bang  tongue.gif

Let's put it another way, any forecast/prediction will never be 100% dead on accurate, so allows some significant variance.  icon_idea.gif Take the average slope of the rise from March till August and draw a normalized line.  icon_idea.gif

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Disclaimer: Am just fooling around, not trying to prove that the chart is accurate.  shakehead.gif
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I still object.......................... *larik*


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post Jun 26 2013, 03:11 PM

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staind, this is reply to your last post

Bjcorp lines have not yet crossed. Still no good buy signal.
Be careful or you can get stuck in sideways or down move.
Better upside potentials in some oil and gas counters which have
started rebounds from temporary low levels. Not chasing prices now.
Monitoring for good buy signals to collect more.
yok70
post Jun 26 2013, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 26 2013, 03:01 PM)
Malaysia 10 years is about always at around 3.5~4%.

Actually it is not RM drop, but USD has tremendous strength.
RM vs AUD, is actually appreciating.

Those said USD is worthless, and short USD, bear USD, now being hit left and right, due to massive QE previously.
As many USD bear, either short USD, holding others currency or go into gold market.

The extreme USD bear, short USD, long gold, is the worst scenario for time being.
Left being whacked, right being slapped.
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Since the previous QE 1 and 2 did make gold up and raise inflation, many thought QE 3 will do the same. Surprisingly, it didn't. Until now, I still can't figure out why. Probably because when QE 3 happens, central banks across the world are much stronger with enough US$ to neutralize the effect? hmm.gif
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post Jun 26 2013, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:11 PM)
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I still object.......................... *larik*
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Boon gor watch too much lawyer show in astro on demand ady nowadays... laugh.gif
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HKSE rebounds 400 pts (2%) while SSE continues dropping another 0.5%.
So China now has "departed" ? I thought China companies start asking money from HK banks? tongue.gif

This post has been edited by yok70: Jun 26 2013, 03:15 PM
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post Jun 26 2013, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(Madbull @ Jun 26 2013, 03:14 PM)
Boon gor watch too much lawyer show in astro on demand ady nowadays... laugh.gif
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I also object...... HAHA!

Astro prices simply too ridiculous.

No ah?

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post Jun 26 2013, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:16 PM)
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I also object...... HAHA!

Astro prices simply too ridiculous.

No ah?

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I know i know..u must have downloaded it.. brows.gif

This post has been edited by Madbull: Jun 26 2013, 03:17 PM
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post Jun 26 2013, 03:18 PM

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So many discussion going on hmm.gif

Ah boon, do u have a crystal ball to predict future market?
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post Jun 26 2013, 03:19 PM

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Wah..IOIcorp strong le..no impact at all on the negative news..
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post Jun 26 2013, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 26 2013, 03:01 PM)
Malaysia 10 years is about always at around 3.5~4%.

Actually it is not RM drop, but USD has tremendous strength.
RM vs AUD, is actually appreciating.

Those said USD is worthless, and short USD, bear USD, now being hit left and right, due to massive QE previously.
As many USD bear, either short USD, holding others currency or go into gold market.

The extreme USD bear, short USD, long gold, is the worst scenario for time being.
Left being whacked, right being slapped.
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U can have good " stable " rates in Malaysia , no doubt about it , but sooner or later the liquidity crunch would take its priority . laugh.gif

Businesses here have or less facing this impact now.

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jun 26 2013, 03:21 PM
V-Zero
post Jun 26 2013, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:11 PM)
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I still object.......................... *larik*
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maybe can open table take bets on whether the chart correct or not. tongue.gif
Anyway I think China is capable of handling US QE tapering so the odds are against me. cry.gif
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post Jun 26 2013, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 26 2013, 03:18 PM)

Ah boon, do u have a crystal ball to predict future market?
I object..... to this question.

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Waa... market now hot a bit.... got tipsy ah? tongue.gif
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post Jun 26 2013, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:13 PM)
Since the previous QE 1 and 2 did make gold up and raise inflation, many thought QE 3 will do the same. Surprisingly, it didn't. Until now, I still can't figure out why. Probably because when QE 3 happens, central banks across the world are much stronger with enough US$ to neutralize the effect?  hmm.gif
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I think the gold prices hike in the last few years was not caused by QE1 and QE2. Rather, investors sought 'safe haven' when economy was in bad shape. Now US economy is much better, so investors are eying riskier investments.

Other factors:
- profit taking after years of bull run
- fear of Cyprus Central Bank selling gold
- herd mentality

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post Jun 26 2013, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:22 PM)
I object..... to this question.

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Waa... market now hot a bit.... got tipsy ah? tongue.gif
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Properties stock drop down a lot, u got balls to enter? laugh.gif
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post Jun 26 2013, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:22 PM)
I object..... to this question.

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Waa... market now hot a bit.... got tipsy ah? tongue.gif
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Yes ada tips, KLCI heading back to 1770 by Friday. laugh.gif
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post Jun 26 2013, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jun 26 2013, 03:22 PM)
maybe can open table take bets on whether the chart correct or not.  tongue.gif
Anyway I think China is capable of handling US QE tapering so the odds are against me.  cry.gif
Still object. LOL!

Chart was already wrong for April 2013. tongue.gif


ps: Wanna check or debate on month for month comparisons for CLSE Pong Sway Charts the past 2 years? whistling.gif

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 26 2013, 03:26 PM)
Properties stock drop down a lot, u got balls to enter? laugh.gif
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Despite the construction and property booms, very little money flows to the contractors ....... hmm.gif

I hope it would not turn out something to be bad.........

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jun 26 2013, 03:31 PM
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post Jun 26 2013, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:19 PM)
U can  have good " stable "  rates in Malaysia , no doubt about it , but sooner or later the liquidity crunch would  take its priority .  laugh.gif

Businesses here have or less facing this impact now.
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Actually, businesses already slow since May...

I don't think there will be a liquidity crunch, just many investors, hedge fund, speculators too addicted to the QE already, suddenly, said QE tapering, then it is like end of the world.

US economy is rather intact, from various economy data showing. Yes, not growing robust and rapidly, but at slow and steady pace. Not in recession, not depression.

China liquidity crunch is easier to solve as compared to US subprime mess.
PBOC can provide liquidity if situation turn worse, after all, China capital market and banking is not as open and free as US. So PBOC should able to solve it much easier than US subprime version.
After all, a minor liquidity crunch may be good for long term future, by killing off persistent high inflation in China, as well as taming the loan growth that spur the inflation.

If there is severe liquidity crunch like 2008 crisis, then it may provide a second life chance to buy dirt cheap stock again.
Seldom lottery hit twice one... tongue.gif

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