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Investment CYBERJAYA - Next Phase of Growth, Rebooting CYBERJAYA
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PeriPeri2014
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Oct 12 2014, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(MrHunter @ Oct 12 2014, 10:53 AM) Wow. Comparison again Cj vs KL. Too broad and general. KL is huge. Of course, if u have unlimited bullets, you can invest everywhere. Those have limited, then pick the one that give u higher ROI. There is no right or wrong. Many projs in KL also turned horrible eg. 20TW at Melawati, Garden Manor at Sierramas.....list goes on. Reality is everywhere can turn bad, BBB time is over. It is time to see who can pick the right one, be it in CJ or KL. scare of CBJ
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MrHunter
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Oct 12 2014, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Oct 12 2014, 11:57 AM) scare of CBJ  What to scare if you already exit plan and holding power  . I always refer holding power as you can or have funds already set aside to pay installment on your empty units for 2 years. I saw many youngster bbb, hopefully they understand the basic rule of long term investment holding in property play. This post has been edited by MrHunter: Oct 12 2014, 11:01 AM
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PeriPeri2014
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Oct 12 2014, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(MrHunter @ Oct 12 2014, 10:58 AM) What to scare if you already exit plan and holding power  . I always refer holding power as you can or have funds already set aside to pay installment on your empty units for 2 years. I saw many youngster bbb, hopefully they understand the basic rule of long term investment holding in property play. 200% agree with u. My holding power is week. CBJ not suitable for me. Recently thinking wanna buy 1 unit Tamarind but end up dont want to buy......
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MrHunter
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Oct 12 2014, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Oct 12 2014, 12:05 PM) If your holding power is weak, then everywhere else also ll not be suitable for u. Lol. Especially Tamarind is already at 2xxk level, i dont think you can get anything in KL then. :8 Dont take my words seriously. Actually, different ppls have different risk appetite. Some see 2yrs holding power is too much n too conservative. Many see 12 to 18mths holding costs is sufficient for highrise as rental strategy is relatively easier to execute than landed.
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PeriPeri2014
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Oct 12 2014, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(MrHunter @ Oct 12 2014, 11:11 AM) If your holding power is weak, then everywhere else also ll not be suitable for u. Lol. Especially Tamarind is already at 2xxk level, i dont think you can get anything in KL then. :8 Dont take my words seriously. Actually, different ppls have different risk appetite. Some see 2yrs holding power is too much n too conservative. Many see 12 to 18mths holding costs is sufficient for highrise as rental strategy is relatively easier to execute than landed.
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lamode
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Oct 12 2014, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(murrayballs @ Oct 12 2014, 01:40 AM) in any case, monthly erl pass from putrajaya to kl sentral is 300 right? and apparently travel time 20 minutes? sounds good to me =) CBJ to the current ERL is not convenience lo... Imagine i need to purposely go to ERL station to drop off ppl, then make a big u turn to hit MEX high way everday morning... This post has been edited by lamode: Oct 12 2014, 11:18 AM
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CloudAtla$
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Oct 12 2014, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(MrHunter @ Oct 12 2014, 10:58 AM) What to scare if you already exit plan and holding power  . I always refer holding power as you can or have funds already set aside to pay installment on your empty units for 2 years. I saw many youngster bbb, hopefully they understand the basic rule of long term investment holding in property play. No doubt cyberjaya has huge potential. Many places started slow beginning but end up as hot spot. Cyberjaya has great infrastructure. Its important to attract foreign investor to set up mnc here. The current issue with cyberjaya r not enuf day population and amenities. Now slowly changin movin rectifyin these weaknesses. But need time and malls coming up. Dpulze wil be the 1st one opening end of the year.Master developer oso stop sellin land to developer for residential development. Thts good to control the residentia over supply. And oso mkland is buildin medium cost apt which affordable to those lower income group. This will increase the population.
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PeriPeri2014
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Oct 12 2014, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Oct 12 2014, 11:19 AM) No doubt cyberjaya has huge potential. Many places started slow beginning but end up as hot spot. Cyberjaya has great infrastructure. Its important to attract foreign investor to set up mnc here. The current issue with cyberjaya r not enuf day population and amenities. Now slowly changin movin rectifyin these weaknesses. But need time and malls coming up. Dpulze wil be the 1st one opening end of the year.Master developer oso stop sellin land to developer for residential development. Thts good to control the residentia over supply. And oso mkland is buildin medium cost apt which affordable to those lower income group. This will increase the population. need how many years to acheieve population and amenities that you expected??
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lamode
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Oct 12 2014, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Oct 12 2014, 11:22 AM) need how many years to acheieve population and amenities that you expected?? how long it took Desa City Park? CBJ ar? perhaps another 3 to 5 years.
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PeriPeri2014
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Oct 12 2014, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(lamode @ Oct 12 2014, 11:25 AM) how long it took Desa City Park? CBJ ar? perhaps another 3 to 5 years. 5 years can bor??
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MrHunter
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Oct 12 2014, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(lamode @ Oct 12 2014, 12:18 PM) CBJ to the current ERL is not convenience lo... Imagine i need to purposely go to ERL station to drop off ppl, then make a big u turn to hit MEX high way everday morning... How about using the park and ride facilities.
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Soros007
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Oct 12 2014, 11:32 AM
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Has anyone use that park and ride facilities before? Can share more pls the duration, fee, hassle encoutered etc? QUOTE(MrHunter @ Oct 12 2014, 11:29 AM) How about using the park and ride facilities.
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MrHunter
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Oct 12 2014, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(lamode @ Oct 12 2014, 12:25 PM) how long it took Desa City Park? CBJ ar? perhaps another 3 to 5 years. DPC started to sell their SAFA i think around year 2002/2003
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BEANCOUNTER
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Oct 12 2014, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Oct 12 2014, 11:27 AM) every year i hear ciber supporters say give it 3-5 years.....since like 2010.... listen also sian lioa I hope I wont need to read this in 2020. Oh wait....it might still be there bcos the mrt project is not completed in 2020...
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Soros007
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Oct 12 2014, 11:37 AM
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When was DPC started to boom? QUOTE(MrHunter @ Oct 12 2014, 11:35 AM) DPC started to sell their SAFA i think around year 2002/2003
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PeriPeri2014
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Oct 12 2014, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 12 2014, 11:36 AM) every year i hear ciber supporters say give it 3-5 years.....since like 2010.... listen also sian lioa I hope I wont need to read this in 2020. Oh wait....it might still be there bcos the mrt project is not completed in 2020... Bro, 2020 is for SURE..... if not need wait 2042 liao .....
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MrHunter
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Oct 12 2014, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Oct 12 2014, 12:27 PM) Million dollar question. No point to say 5yrs la 3 yrs la etc Lol. Do your homework on its masterplan, on'going projs vp time especially the catalyst projs. Then add in the buffer that it needs to bring in population. The subjective question will then come eg. How do you def large population. Emm..it will never end if one to argue it. Rule of thumbs, if you have done your homework, buy before the catalyst projs completed to enjoy the higher growth rate or returns. Surely, investment involves risk but it has to be calculated risk. Of course, many non cj fans ll say return and horizon as well which is not wrong either.
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CK15
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Oct 12 2014, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Oct 12 2014, 11:22 AM) need how many years to acheieve population and amenities that you expected?? Boss. U are investing in commi or resi? For those already stay in CBJ, they don't want population increased too rapidly. Many affordable units are under construction now. > 1k in CBJ, earthwork already started for ard 1k inPriencent 6. Giving 3-4 yrs to complete the projects and 2-3 yrs for peoples to move in. Like it or not, u can see more and more peoples in 5-7 yrs.
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PeriPeri2014
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Oct 12 2014, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(MrHunter @ Oct 12 2014, 11:40 AM) Million dollar question. No point to say 5yrs la 3 yrs la etc Lol. Do your homework on its masterplan, on'going projs vp time especially the catalyst projs. Then add in the buffer that it needs to bring in population. The subjective question will then come eg. How do you def large population. Emm..it will never end if one to argue it. Rule of thumbs, if you have done your homework, buy before the catalyst projs completed to enjoy the higher growth rate or returns. Surely, investment involves risk but it has to be calculated risk. Of course, many non cj fans ll say return and horizon as well which is not wrong either.
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Soros007
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Oct 12 2014, 11:47 AM
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My investment philosophy is exactly the same like yours too Hunter kor. That's why we whack quite a few SEG so that D pulze, ioi mall etc can ready prior to VP and enjoy some higher growth rate base on VP timing  QUOTE(MrHunter @ Oct 12 2014, 11:40 AM) Million dollar question. No point to say 5yrs la 3 yrs la etc Lol. Do your homework on its masterplan, on'going projs vp time especially the catalyst projs. Then add in the buffer that it needs to bring in population. The subjective question will then come eg. How do you def large population. Emm..it will never end if one to argue it. Rule of thumbs, if you have done your homework, buy before the catalyst projs completed to enjoy the higher growth rate or returns. Surely, investment involves risk but it has to be calculated risk. Of course, many non cj fans ll say return and horizon as well which is not wrong either. This post has been edited by Soros007: Oct 12 2014, 11:50 AM
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