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Investment CYBERJAYA - Next Phase of Growth, Rebooting CYBERJAYA

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Soros007
post Jun 15 2013, 05:17 PM

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Long term investment - YES.
Short term Flip / rent - NO


QUOTE(noblebaby @ Jun 15 2013, 04:17 PM)
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Soros007
post Jun 16 2013, 10:22 PM

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IMHO, ppl or even cyber workers do not prefer to stay there are due to:-
1). No SRJK © at the moment - but to be completed in 2014/5.
2). No shopping malls - 1st will be D'pulze followed by remaining 10+ big / small malls. Mostly VP by 2016/7 such as Skypark.
Yes, even though mature place like Damansara, The Curve still required 5 years to be vibrant and hot. But, I am OK to wait since I am only paying half the price in DPC to own a good landed residential area on condition to wait for 5-8 yrs.
3). No many restaurant / food choices or expensive etc - it's only the chicken and eggs issue. The last few visits I noticed that there are new shops opening in cyber every month. Yes, at the moment the food in some places are expensive but in future where competitiveness comes into the picture, the food price will be self adjusted to suit market demand to survive.
4). Now cyber only has few educational institutes. Bear in mind that few more uni and colleges are coming up. number of population will shoot up which driving commercial activities.
5). Cyber will be vibrant / hot or not - I think the developer will worry than any of us since they own some land there and need to push the sales. They have to make it HOT in order to sell.
6). No more lands to be developed in north klang valley - all major developments are shifting to south now. If developers don't goring south Klang valley like cyber, how are they going to make more $$$ from development? In addition, not many F/H lands in south klang valley.
7). Accessibilities are one of the most critical factors to be considered - 20mins drive to KLCC / KLIA / Puchong - ideal for rich upgrader.
8). Yes, cyber takes time to grow and to be vibrant. But which city in this world doesn't? Even DPC also took 1st 5 yrs to attract ppl from Kepong to accept it. Cyber has a better start - attract MNC local workers + KLIA2 workers.

8). Last but not least - Why ppl wants to stay far away from working area if:-
a). Education for kids are at doorstep distance (international school, SRJK ©, cyber smart school etc).
b). Shopping malls are nearby - skypark, Pangaea, D'pulze........etc
c). Good living environment with plenty of green + landscape + developed under one master developer!
d). Accessibilities to KLCC, KLIA, Puchong and IOI Resort City Mall (similar to Mid Valley) and reachable within 20mins+.
e). Safe and good quality of community - GnG with recreational facilities.

Give cyber another 5 yrs, both commercials and residential have to be growing at the same time.
Personally - The one I like most are - peaceful, greenery, safe and resort feel lifestyle in cyber but 20mins drive away from office/airport biggrin.gif


QUOTE(blowwater101 @ Jun 16 2013, 09:47 PM)
Of course....for all project....not all ppl buy for own stay... wink.gif

I have many ex coll in cyber refused to stay in cyber due to for eg, stay near with family or already have family and settle down in 1 place

but most of them agreed cyber is a good place to stay  biggrin.gif
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post Jun 16 2013, 10:27 PM

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Sorry to say that - location of 16 Sierra and D'alpina are not ideal.
In between Cyber, puchong and SK.
Accessibility is via LDP / SKVE plus bottleneck road / fly over into the residential area.
No nearby offices / commercials / shops..... a bit susah to stay there ler.
Don't shoot me - it's my 2 cents only smile.gif

QUOTE(The Jedi @ Jun 16 2013, 04:57 PM)
Indeed holding power is key ....noted many completed projects in CBJ or 16Sierra or D'Alpina has high vacancy rate....only paper profit but subsales are slow
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post Jun 16 2013, 10:29 PM

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Spot on.

QUOTE(blowwater101 @ Jun 16 2013, 05:16 PM)
allow me to say something regarding 16Sierra or D'Apina...Seri kembangan/Serdang ppl normally like to stay inside serdang even though is deep inside serdang, Nobody will care 16Sierra or DA located in strategic location (serdang got many rich uncles, they have sentiment to serdang, thats y serdang expensive link house or bangalow can be sold out and all absorb by serdang ppl)

Many serdang ppl moved to putra permai/equine park, further than that, is consider vr far...

Puchong ppl dont think Puchong south location is strategic...so 16sierra & DA is stucked in the middle...who is their target buyer?
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post Jun 16 2013, 10:31 PM

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I have enough buy in cyber liau....bro noblebaby jia you!

QUOTE(noblebaby @ Jun 16 2013, 06:12 PM)
Glad to know that Cyberjaya is not a hot spot now. So can continue to invest now.
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post Jun 16 2013, 10:32 PM

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Landed will be more n more expensive...... Good buy is still GR now.

QUOTE(kokyew82 @ Jun 16 2013, 06:18 PM)
Not a hotspot but selling at hotspot price...  hmm.gif

Hopefully 4 years from now Cyber can have more night population with new malls being built.
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post Jun 16 2013, 10:33 PM

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IMHO - Cyber is not a hot spot now.
But it will be once all commercials are in place.
Don't forget the putrajaya effect.

QUOTE(noblebaby @ Jun 16 2013, 06:27 PM)
Mayb can ask bro xxyap to add the poll in his thread "why u buy cyberjaya". Now I jus wan to know is ppl thinks cyber is a hotspot or not. If it is hot, I guess the price will b higher. Still many phases hav not launched yet for SH, SEG, SR, N99, lakefront, etc etc.
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post Jun 16 2013, 10:35 PM

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These are minor problem in fact which part of klang valley has no African + ME?
QUOTE(torkl @ Jun 16 2013, 06:53 PM)
cyberjaya is township for what sort of people? as far as I know, many african and me students are there
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post Jun 16 2013, 10:37 PM

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I am only bullish on landed F/H, GnG with good concepts in cyber.
High rise for me - self staying OK but investment - better stay away biggrin.gif

QUOTE(blowwater101 @ Jun 16 2013, 07:22 PM)
Hi bro, my opinion is Even if all forumer agree that Cyber is a hot spot area, it doesnt mean that u can simply buy any project with hot spot price. U still have to do your homework & research to check which project has more potential & better chance to make money.

I dont expect all project in cyber is good & i never told ppl all project in cyber can buy even tho i like cyber and I trust the future of cyber...

If u dont trust, just dont touch cyber as it is selling with premium price.  wink.gif

I hope this detail review can help u

http://www.propcafe.net/cyberjaya-love-it-or-hate-it/
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post Jun 16 2013, 10:38 PM

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Same like u bro noblebaby - real estates are for long term investment + lock in inflation.
Making fast money - FOREX! biggrin.gif

QUOTE(noblebaby @ Jun 16 2013, 06:47 PM)
Yes. Continue to buy now since cyber is still not hot. When it is super hot, the price will b higher than todays. But I m not going to sell as I m a property collector, lol.

My friend in mall management told me there will be many big n small retails in cyber... I anwered him "oversupply right? Business die lor"... he replied "no, it showed the potential vibrancy of the well planned township"... and he thinks Cyber location will b quite central in the future. He also told me big mall will be vry hard to survive in the future due to high rental, smaller retails hav better chance... now he is vry headache of how to turn the business model of the big malls under his management.
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post Jun 17 2013, 07:05 AM

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I always believe that pioneer makes the most profits thus shot my bullets into SEG phase 1 ma. Lol

QUOTE(noblebaby @ Jun 16 2013, 11:40 PM)
So fast close shop? Yup looking to buy another landed.
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post Jun 17 2013, 07:08 AM

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Absolutely agree with bro Cheah.
I was 100% hate but turn into 100% like after months of studies n self exploration in cyber.
Except cyber, there is always some areas.
Buy what you like. Like what you buy smile.gif


QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jun 16 2013, 11:22 PM)
Talking about Cbj. It is a love-hate decision.
Either u love it 100% or a no go ( no matter how others hard sell to u). No middle ground !!
This is what I can conclude.
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post Jun 17 2013, 06:27 PM

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which unit you invested in cyber bro?
QUOTE(blowwater101 @ Jun 17 2013, 11:43 AM)
"Master developer will be investing RM20 billions over next 5years (2012-2017) in Cyberjaya to bring this township to another level. RM2 billions have been spent so far. "  brows.gif

Many ppl might not clear about the infrastructures/landscaping...mayb i can give few examples which we can see instead of unify clable or green environment...

ROAD. Try to compare the road in cyber to other area, the road in cyber is vr wide, and much lesser hole conpare to other expatriate area like MK. driving in cyber give u a good feeling.

There is no flyover in cyber (hope they wont build any in future)...all road are wide and well planned & organised like grid

all i want to say is the basic infrastructure allow cyber to qualify to one of the best liveable city.
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post Jun 17 2013, 09:03 PM

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Bro,
Good quality Semi-D FF in SEG for renting too.... member price for your ang mo friend! biggrin.gif
wakakaka....lol

QUOTE(blowwater101 @ Jun 17 2013, 08:58 PM)
Thanks for trusting me...my fren in cyber 10 fingers can count le  sweat.gif ...but i will check and see as I wish to know also..

Last year my fren told me that ang mo in Hewlett packard start leaving...due to the high salary and HP cut cost...summore they based in MY by contract basis...let me check and let u know...

u collect prop like ppl collect stamp  notworthy.gif
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post Jun 17 2013, 10:54 PM

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i think you are wrong.
Financially strong ang mo / family type likes only landed with greenery living environment especially those with resort feeling.
Those staying in high rise - mainly are single or couple with tight budget.
No offence - that's how my Aus houses being rented out.

QUOTE(blowwater101 @ Jun 17 2013, 10:33 PM)
if im not wrong, ang mo dont like landed prop wo...mayb my mirage got higher chance...U better ask bro noble persuade more singaporean to retire in cyber la...spent Rm2mil to stay in decent place and have a luxurious lifestyle...

those MNC in cyber is unlike those MNC in KL, operate in a tall building...just share the IT & FIn hub of Hewlett Packard, let those ppl who never visit cyber to feel how is CBJ or MNC in Cyber looks like

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba1es3zm3jM

This video captured 2 years ago
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post Jun 18 2013, 12:53 PM

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I think most of the buyers dont buy cyber because of MNC.
It's good to have MNC but not necessary must have.
Cyber is more treated like a HER area.

QUOTE(blowwater101 @ Jun 18 2013, 10:14 AM)
Honestly if u ask me....i dont hope that ppl move to cyber is bcos of MNC company, is bcos cyber is really a good place to stay instead...even they working in KL area...my vision to cyber is a place like desa park city.. thumbup.gif
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post Jun 18 2013, 12:56 PM

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Based on the latest poll - the ground sentiment is either you like it very much or you hate it very much!
No such thing as in between! LOL

QUOTE(Soros007 @ Jun 18 2013, 12:53 PM)
I think most of the buyers dont buy cyber because of MNC.
It's good to have MNC but not necessary must have.
Cyber is more treated like a HER area.
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post Jun 18 2013, 02:29 PM

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Although I bought 2 SEG semi-Ds for own stay and i still say 'No" - Not hotspot for time being.
But after 5 years - i will say YES.
Maybe i am stupid? lol biggrin.gif

QUOTE(nilambanting @ Jun 18 2013, 01:46 PM)
btw, i saw someone says own stay because hotspots. I lolz
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post Jun 18 2013, 02:32 PM

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Be good or bad - prop investment it's all about the vision.
My vision to SEG / SH and SR are - A smaller version of DPC that surrounded by diff commercial components.


thanks for the feedback...i believe noblebaby bro appreciate all kind of feedback no matter its positibe or negative... biggrin.gif

anyway...prevously nobody look good to those who bought desa park city or setia alam earlier phase...we will see thumbup.gif
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post Jun 18 2013, 02:34 PM

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BKT = bak ku teh?
If you really think there is no pork no alcohol in cyber - then i think u overlook cyber.

QUOTE(nilambanting @ Jun 18 2013, 01:55 PM)
Hehe, if not allowed to say No, then this poll will become rubbish  hmm.gif

DPC and SA different, i still can find BKT there  rclxm9.gif .
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