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Investment CYBERJAYA - Next Phase of Growth, Rebooting CYBERJAYA

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post Jun 28 2013, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Jun 27 2013, 10:19 PM)
Atleast  there is existing student population to support... students will go to cinema, bowling, f&b... a mall normally takes 3 years to reach the optimum visitor traffic. I hav confident this mall will b a success just like Bugis Junction singapore which is about the same size as Dpulze. Bugis junction is within the city and full of students and youngsters. Bugis junction is one of the best malls under capitalmall trust.
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Bugis Junction has the location X factor loh. Singapore everywhere is crowded mah.

Ascott brand good, but RM 1000? psf high side.

Buy one enough lah, buy another 2 like too many.

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post Jul 1 2013, 02:19 PM

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This thread is hot! 149 votes...

Why? See this thread, 150 people voted:

You prefer condo or landed?, come let choose! (KL and Selangor Only):
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2846855/

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post Jul 5 2013, 10:27 PM

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I would suggest those who are not familiar with Cyberjaya to go there and observe first. Previous residential properties like Cyberia, Crescent and Domain is past. No developer ever allowed to develop Cyberjaya five years ago, do u know that? Look at who is the developer for those old condos.

Most people would love Cyberjaya if you happen to stay there starting year 2015, I m bored of hearing people say:Cyberjaya said to be boom 15years ago but still a ghost town. Please do your homework. Look at when Cyberjaya properties really shines. The township is so organized where u dont find it at ther cities, and it's highly accessible & very convenient. Sibehfar-jaya? Give it five years, let the undercon projects complete and we shall make conclusion later.
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post Jul 6 2013, 07:13 AM

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Which project u bought bro?




QUOTE(greenstuff @ Jul 5 2013, 10:27 PM)
I would suggest those who are not familiar with Cyberjaya to go there and observe first. Previous residential properties like Cyberia, Crescent and Domain is past. No developer ever allowed to develop Cyberjaya five years ago, do u know that? Look at who is the developer for those old condos.

Most people would love Cyberjaya if you happen to stay there starting year 2015, I m bored of hearing people say:Cyberjaya said to be boom 15years ago but still a ghost town. Please do your homework. Look at when Cyberjaya properties really shines. The township is so organized where u dont find it at ther cities, and it's highly accessible & very convenient. Sibehfar-jaya? Give it five years, let the undercon projects complete and we shall make conclusion later.
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post Jul 6 2013, 07:17 AM

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37% VS 47% - not bad for cyberjaya as the beginning.



QUOTE(Soros007 @ Jul 6 2013, 07:13 AM)
Which project u bought bro?
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post Jul 6 2013, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(greenstuff @ Jul 5 2013, 10:27 PM)
I would suggest those who are not familiar with Cyberjaya to go there and observe first. Previous residential properties like Cyberia, Crescent and Domain is past. No developer ever allowed to develop Cyberjaya five years ago, do u know that? Look at who is the developer for those old condos.

Most people would love Cyberjaya if you happen to stay there starting year 2015, I m bored of hearing people say:Cyberjaya said to be boom 15years ago but still a ghost town. Please do your homework. Look at when Cyberjaya properties really shines. The township is so organized where u dont find it at ther cities, and it's highly accessible & very convenient. Sibehfar-jaya? Give it five years, let the undercon projects complete and we shall make conclusion later.
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Even though you are so pro cyberjaya, but your post clearly indicated that cyberjaya is not "there" yet ***NOW***.

5 years later we will continue to find reasons why it is not there yet.


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post Jul 6 2013, 08:26 AM

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Balanced view.

Only think tht can kill cyber property is financial crisis...

QUOTE(Soros007 @ Jul 6 2013, 07:17 AM)
37% VS 47% - not bad for cyberjaya as the beginning.
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post Jul 6 2013, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(Soros007 @ Jul 6 2013, 07:13 AM)
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Bro, Serin & Garden Residence
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post Jul 6 2013, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jul 6 2013, 08:02 AM)
Even though you are so pro cyberjaya, but your post clearly indicated that cyberjaya is not "there" yet ***NOW***.

5 years later we will continue to find reasons why it is not there yet.
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Five years later we shall discuss why people didn't buy Cyberjaya and regretted.

Anyway you are right, Cyberjaya is not there YET. Because if it does, I don't even have chance to buy.

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QUOTE(greenstuff @ Jul 6 2013, 09:56 AM)
Five years later we shall discuss why people don't buy Cyberjaya.

Anyway you are right, Cyberjaya is not there YET. Because if it does, I don't even have chance to buy.
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I am not able to see what's happening in Cyberjaya 5 year down the road.

But yes, the current development in there is very fierce. So many launches. If 5 years now the road all of them which are VP-ed are all taken up for own stay or rent out, I think Cyberjaya can say it has made it.

But we don't forget there is also a possibility that it might have oversupply. People are telling me some of those condos are having low occupancy rate, even at this moment. But I am too remote to know if that is true.


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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jul 6 2013, 10:05 AM)
I am not able to see what's happening in Cyberjaya 5 year down the road.

But yes, the current development in there is very fierce. So many launches. If 5 years now the road all of them which are VP-ed are all taken up for own stay or rent out, I think Cyberjaya can say it has made it.

But we don't forget there is also a possibility that it might have oversupply. People are telling me some of those condos are having low occupancy rate, even at this moment. But I am too remote to know if that is true.
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Yes bro, me too worrying low occupancy rate. But when I do my research around, all Cyberia owners were happy because their units never vacant for more than a week, maybe the guy he told you see different thing? The master developer SA shows me the population statistics : daytime population 53k and existing residential is 4.5k, in 2016 is 22k. Maybe I m a mathematics person, I think it has not oversupply at the moment, even in year 2016 when most highrise is complete.

Haiz, I have underestimated Puchong and MK as I didn't even see daytime population at that time. But what in Cyberjaya now is different, there are more than 500 MNCs company and for eg Shell alone has 3,000 employees working there. Many stay out of Cyberjaya because there's no decent place to stay but slowly u can see now people move in to stay at Summer Glades, Garden Residence and Serin(next year) and etc. They can afford to pay the price, and I think the price is still reasonable. Every VP takes time to occupy most of the units, just tht Cyberjaya needs extra attention esp Pangea/SkyPark VP. The density of those projects are scary :S
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QUOTE(greenstuff @ Jul 6 2013, 09:56 AM)
Anyway you are right, Cyberjaya is not there YET. Because if it does, I don't even have chance to buy.
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Yes, this is very true...look at the master plan and the pipeline until 2018, the city is support by fortune top mnc & control by a master developer, if cyber achieved their vision, surely not affordable for a normal blue worker like me...

Timing to invest is subjective, to Puchongnite bro we enter vr early and risky...personally I think I enter abit late, I should start invest in cyber in early 2012 instead of early 2013.

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QUOTE(greenstuff @ Jul 6 2013, 10:44 AM)
Yes bro, me too worrying low occupancy rate. But when I do my research around, all Cyberia owners were happy because their units never vacant for more than a week, maybe the guy he told you see different thing? The master developer SA shows me the population statistics : daytime population 53k and existing residential is 4.5k, in 2016 is 22k. Maybe I m a mathematics person, I think it has not oversupply at the moment, even in year 2016 when most highrise is complete.

Haiz, I have underestimated Puchong and MK as I didn't even see daytime population at that time. But what in Cyberjaya now is different, there are more than 500 MNCs company and for eg Shell alone has 3,000 employees working there. Many stay out of Cyberjaya because there's no decent place to stay but slowly u can see now people move in to stay at Summer Glades, Garden Residence and Serin(next year) and etc. They can afford to pay the price, and I think the price is still reasonable. Every VP takes time to occupy most of the units, just tht Cyberjaya needs extra attention esp Pangea/SkyPark VP. The density of those projects are scary :S
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Haha it's interesting that you use the day population in cyberjaya as indication of demand. This is where I have different views.

For me the day population is not indicative of the demand. As long as there is a big difference between the day population and the night population, ie there is something which is missing in cyberjaya which causes the day-night population leakage. As long as this is not fixed, then no matter how big the day population is, it is not going to have much bearing with the staying demand.


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Our G wouldn't let CBJ die easily..but recently they are more focus in KL!
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Our G wont let Cyberjaya to slow down. Tons of bullet waiting to BBB
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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Jul 6 2013, 08:56 PM)
Our G wont let Cyberjaya to slow down. Tons of bullet waiting to BBB
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Haha...sp setia got a huge project there le....

I wonder govt spent how much on gardening....the trees and plant in cyber are damn nice le...all in nice shape....
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jul 6 2013, 06:52 PM)
Haha it's interesting that you use the day population in cyberjaya as indication of demand. This is where I have different views.

For me the day population is not indicative of the demand. As long as there is a big difference between the day population and the night population, ie there is something which is missing in cyberjaya which causes the day-night population leakage. As long as this is not fixed, then no matter how big the day population is, it is not going to have much bearing with the staying demand.
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Yes. The cause of day-night population leakage is the amenities. That's why I supported my statement with current occupancy rate and FYI the rental is relatively high because of the demand-supply.

IOI putramall, D'Pulze, Pangea, SkyPark and SP's Cyberjaya City Centre are what interest me. If there's no demand, I don't think IOI group build SEA largerst mall in Putrajaya and SP to build 6.3B project there. So like what I say, the city is correcting itself now. Too many job opportunities and no place to stay, more residential props need to be built to support the day time population to stay at there itself. I personally transferred to work in Cyberjaya last year and I was amazed at the city planning, i don't find it in any other cities. I m currently staying at North KL and I slowly find out the facilities development is more towards South, maybe we still can wait and see how it goes when D Pulze with cinema complete?
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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Jul 6 2013, 08:56 PM)
Our G wont let Cyberjaya to slow down. Tons of bullet waiting to BBB
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Government need not money to BBB.

One X factor kicks in like: High Speed Train with MRT integration to KL...

Public money will come in to BBB...

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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jul 8 2013, 09:58 PM)
Government need not money to BBB.

One X factor kicks in like: High Speed Train with MRT integration to KL...

Public money will come in to BBB...
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Now got DTS ma, only RM210++ a month, ERL RM280+ a month.

MRT is like 2020thingy, too far to discuss. But high speed train makes my eyes shine shine like a diamond in the sky
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