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Investment CYBERJAYA - Next Phase of Growth, Rebooting CYBERJAYA

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blowwater101
post Jun 16 2013, 04:15 PM

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I am cyber buyer, my opinion is cyber will be one of the best city within 5 years.

I used to work in cyber but I leave there at 2011, 2013 i go back...i saw many changes and the place is growing rapidly.

I asked 10 ex-coll, 9 out of 10 said cyber is a good place to stay and they believe cyber will become a good city. security wise, there not many place in klang valley, u walk on the street, u wont feel like kena snatch anytime...(not believe me? check with your fren who work in cyber)

its ok for those who not look good at cyber, once D'pulze (the 1st shopping mall in cyber with cinema) completed, those who never visit cyber will pay a visit to cyber so they can feel the environment smile.gif

it will be more or less like Publika environment, feng shui master can cheat u 10 years...D'pulze wil start operate before 2015, 1.5years only...can check if I am talk big smile.gif

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post Jun 16 2013, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jun 16 2013, 02:39 PM)
According to propcafe.net there are 13 shopping mall in the making in Cbj. Both Big and small ones.
I don't know how they able to survive and competiting with each others.

Even in matured area like Dsara, the curve was quite, no business, car parks were empty for the first 5 years of opening.
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I believe some of them are small street mall....

More better than less isnt it ? the strong and good one will stay and the lousy one will be eliminate...it force them to do better and dfferenciate themself from other malls...good if they can lower down the rental and encourage ppl to open shop there... biggrin.gif

Cyber is not vr big, 2 good shopping mall is good enough.

where is the crowd ? chicken & egg question wink.gif i think cinema (TGV/GSC) is one of the key success factor...
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post Jun 16 2013, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jun 16 2013, 04:40 PM)
That is because no nighttime population. Less chances for the robbers to find target and hit the jackpot.
No where is safe in the country. Robbers are very mobile!!
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I just came back from MK, saw many expat walking on the street....try to observe MK, not many motorbikes...

In cyber, My ex coll saw expat walk to their office... biggrin.gif

In future i not sure, but so far for those ummature city or town, Cyber has the best chance to transform to be a place like MK, or even better
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post Jun 16 2013, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(The Jedi @ Jun 16 2013, 04:57 PM)
Indeed holding power is key ....noted many completed projects in CBJ or 16Sierra or D'Alpina has high vacancy rate....only paper profit but subsales are slow
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allow me to say something regarding 16Sierra or D'Apina...Seri kembangan/Serdang ppl normally like to stay inside serdang even though is deep inside serdang, Nobody will care 16Sierra or DA located in strategic location (serdang got many rich uncles, they have sentiment to serdang, thats y serdang expensive link house or bangalow can be sold out and all absorb by serdang ppl)

Many serdang ppl moved to putra permai/equine park, further than that, is consider vr far...

Puchong ppl dont think Puchong south location is strategic...so 16sierra & DA is stucked in the middle...who is their target buyer?
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post Jun 16 2013, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Jun 16 2013, 05:08 PM)
Walking? Now bad haze outdoor lah...
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my ex coll just seen it...haha...

Even i working in KLCC area now, I saw quite a few mat salleh driving Vespa scooter to work...the haze in KL is even worst...
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post Jun 16 2013, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Jun 16 2013, 06:12 PM)
Glad to know that Cyberjaya is not a hot spot now. So can continue to invest now.
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Hi Bro, i think it would be more meaningful is the answer can breakdown to different category

1. Yes, I bought in Cyber
2. Yes, I didnt buy in cyber
3. No

The result of No.2 & 3 is important smile.gif
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post Jun 16 2013, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Jun 16 2013, 06:27 PM)
Mayb can ask bro xxyap to add the poll in his thread "why u buy cyberjaya". Now I jus wan to know is ppl thinks cyber is a hotspot or not. If it is hot, I guess the price will b higher. Still many phases hav not launched yet for SH, SEG, SR, N99, lakefront, etc etc.
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Then i dont really understand your logic about glad to know cyber is not hot, u can continue to invest ? Im rookie, enligten me abit la...haha

I guess u confident that CYber will be hot spot in near future, so u will continue to buy before cyber become a hot spot (a place like desa park city, not afforable anymore) ? am i right ?
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post Jun 16 2013, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(torkl @ Jun 16 2013, 06:53 PM)
cyberjaya is township for what sort of people? as far as I know, many african and me students are there
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have u been to cyberjaya ? personally i like the environment in cyber vr much, I can paint a vr good picture for u but it will sounds vr bias...

I suggest u pay a visit to cyber during lunch time or dinner time...
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post Jun 16 2013, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(worgen @ Jun 16 2013, 07:06 PM)
But if cyber is not a hotspot but now already selling at hotspot price, still can invest?
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Hi bro, my opinion is Even if all forumer agree that Cyber is a hot spot area, it doesnt mean that u can simply buy any project with hot spot price. U still have to do your homework & research to check which project has more potential & better chance to make money.

I dont expect all project in cyber is good & i never told ppl all project in cyber can buy even tho i like cyber and I trust the future of cyber...

If u dont trust, just dont touch cyber as it is selling with premium price. wink.gif

I hope this detail review can help u

http://www.propcafe.net/cyberjaya-love-it-or-hate-it/
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post Jun 16 2013, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jun 16 2013, 09:38 PM)
I notice that some who invested here are not actually plan to live there when VP, some of them working abroad earning decent foreign currency, with strong borrowing capacity.

I still have many friends who work in CBJ and refused to live in CBJ
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Of course....for all project....not all ppl buy for own stay... wink.gif

I have many ex coll in cyber refused to stay in cyber due to for eg, stay near with family or already have family and settle down in 1 place

but most of them agreed cyber is a good place to stay biggrin.gif
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post Jun 16 2013, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(Soros007 @ Jun 16 2013, 10:22 PM)
IMHO, ppl or even cyber workers do not prefer to stay there are due to:-
1). No SRJK © at the moment - but to be completed in 2014/5.
2). No shopping malls - 1st will be D'pulze followed by remaining 10+ big / small malls. Mostly VP by 2016/7 such as Skypark.
Yes, even though mature place like Damansara, The Curve still required 5 years to be vibrant and hot. But, I am OK to wait since I am only paying half the price in DPC to own a good landed residential area on condition to wait for 5-8 yrs.
3). No many restaurant / food choices or expensive etc - it's only the chicken and eggs issue. The last few visits I noticed that there are new shops opening in cyber every month. Yes, at the moment the food in some places are expensive but in future where competitiveness comes into the picture, the food price will be self adjusted to suit market demand to survive.
4). Now cyber only has few educational institutes. Bear in mind that few more uni and colleges are coming up. number of population will shoot up which driving commercial activities.
5). Cyber will be vibrant / hot or not - I think the developer will worry than any of us since they own some land there and need to push the sales. They have to make it HOT in order to sell.
6). No more lands to be developed in north klang valley - all major developments are shifting to south now. If developers don't goring south Klang valley like cyber, how are they going to make more $$$ from development? In addition, not many F/H lands in south klang valley.
7). Accessibilities are one of the most critical factors to be considered - 20mins drive to KLCC / KLIA / Puchong - ideal for rich upgrader.
8). Yes, cyber takes time to grow and to be vibrant. But which city in this world doesn't? Even DPC also took 1st 5 yrs to attract ppl from Kepong to accept it. Cyber has a better start - attract MNC local workers + KLIA2 workers.

8). Last but not least - Why ppl wants to stay far away from working area if:-
a). Education for kids are at doorstep distance (international school, SRJK ©, cyber smart school etc).
b). Shopping malls are nearby - skypark, Pangaea, D'pulze........etc
c). Good living environment with plenty of green + landscape + developed under one master developer!
d). Accessibilities to KLCC, KLIA, Puchong and IOI Resort City Mall (similar to Mid Valley) and reachable within 20mins+.
e). Safe and good quality of community - GnG with recreational facilities.

Give cyber another 5 yrs, both commercials and residential have to be growing at the same time.
Personally -  The one I like most are - peaceful, greenery, safe and resort feel lifestyle in cyber but 20mins drive away from office/airport biggrin.gif
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wah lao eh....salute.. notworthy.gif

The point i like the most peaceful, greenery, safe and resort feel lifestyle

Ideally, buy a Vespa scooter or superbike & working cyber, 5-10mins away from office,.

Can jog in the residence garden after work...cinema just 5-10mins away without massive jam in highway...
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post Jun 17 2013, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(Soros007 @ Jun 17 2013, 07:08 AM)
Absolutely agree with bro Cheah.
I was 100% hate but turn into 100% like after months of studies n self exploration in cyber.
Except cyber, there is always some areas.
Buy what you like. Like what you buy smile.gif
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love or ignore la...Cyber is selling at premium price, must love the place before anyone decided to buy or invest...

ya..there is always some other good areas to invest..

But peaceful GnG environment in modern city...Cyberjaya itu dia rclxm9.gif

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post Jun 17 2013, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Jun 17 2013, 09:38 AM)
i don't think you can find many places like cbj.
gov spends hundreds of millions to maintain the infrastructures/landscaping.
normally local council won't accept development with high maintenance cost except g&g.
just my 2cents.
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"Master developer will be investing RM20 billions over next 5years (2012-2017) in Cyberjaya to bring this township to another level. RM2 billions have been spent so far. " brows.gif

Many ppl might not clear about the infrastructures/landscaping...mayb i can give few examples which we can see instead of unify clable or green environment...

ROAD. Try to compare the road in cyber to other area, the road in cyber is vr wide, and much lesser hole conpare to other expatriate area like MK. driving in cyber give u a good feeling.

There is no flyover in cyber (hope they wont build any in future)...all road are wide and well planned & organised like grid

all i want to say is the basic infrastructure allow cyber to qualify to one of the best liveable city.

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post Jun 17 2013, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(Soros007 @ Jun 17 2013, 06:27 PM)
which unit you invested in cyber bro?
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Hi Bro, it should not be your favour, MBTL condo

Own stay cum investment... biggrin.gif
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post Jun 17 2013, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Jun 17 2013, 07:15 PM)
When ll it be completed?
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estimated date June 2014.
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post Jun 17 2013, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Jun 17 2013, 08:03 PM)
R there many ang mo working in cyberjaya?  How about business traveller?
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No idea bro...will check with my fren if i got chance
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post Jun 17 2013, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Jun 17 2013, 08:46 PM)
Pls help to check with ur friends thanks.

I purchased a unit at Citadines D'pulze recently. If the demand for serviced residence is strong in cyber, I m looking to buy more.
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Thanks for trusting me...my fren in cyber 10 fingers can count le sweat.gif ...but i will check and see as I wish to know also..

Last year my fren told me that ang mo in Hewlett packard start leaving...due to the high salary and HP cut cost...summore they based in MY by contract basis...let me check and let u know...

u collect prop like ppl collect stamp notworthy.gif
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post Jun 17 2013, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Jun 17 2013, 09:17 PM)
Really hope Google will b in cyber. To me Google is the best and most innovative company in the world. Build a Google high tech village.
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I think one day they will move in cyber (blow water tongue.gif )

currently they outsource their sales & mkt to prof inside sales company...
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post Jun 17 2013, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(Soros007 @ Jun 17 2013, 09:03 PM)
Bro,
Good quality Semi-D FF in SEG for renting too.... member price for your ang mo friend! biggrin.gif
wakakaka....lol
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if im not wrong, ang mo dont like landed prop wo...mayb my mirage got higher chance...U better ask bro noble persuade more singaporean to retire in cyber la...spent Rm2mil to stay in decent place and have a luxurious lifestyle...

those MNC in cyber is unlike those MNC in KL, operate in a tall building...just share the IT & FIn hub of Hewlett Packard, let those ppl who never visit cyber to feel how is CBJ or MNC in Cyber looks like

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba1es3zm3jM

This video captured 2 years ago


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post Jun 17 2013, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Soros007 @ Jun 17 2013, 10:54 PM)
i think you are wrong.
Financially strong ang mo / family type likes only landed with greenery living environment especially those with resort feeling.
Those staying in high rise - mainly are single or couple with tight budget.
No offence - that's how my Aus houses being rented out.
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