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pizzaboy
post May 6 2006, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(Silfrijin @ May 4 2006, 07:16 PM)
Carbo tends to burn faster end may lead to sudden surge of glucose level in the blood, causing rapid insulin response. You feel better after taking high carbo food but after a while, your energy level also drop fast. One of the reason for the diabetic patients to take note. Every food also has the glycaemic index. The higher, the worse. Wherelse, high protein food releases the energy slowly and efficiently, giving constant energy to your body. Any wrong facts ?  unsure.gif
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I don't think protein is energy. Carbo is, protein is muscle food (Is it brain food too? I think it is)
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post May 6 2006, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ May 6 2006, 01:31 AM)
I don't think protein is energy. Carbo is, protein is muscle food (Is it brain food too? I think it is)
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Protein is energy. They convert into glucose when your body doesnt have enuf carb.
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post May 6 2006, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(kenyi @ May 6 2006, 12:19 PM)
Protein is energy. They convert into glucose when your body doesnt have enuf carb.
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Really?
Cuz what I read was, carbohydrates that aren't burnt are converted into glucose.
Didn't know protein had the ability to do that as well.
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post May 7 2006, 12:57 AM

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Soy Protein and Whey Protein Powder helps to build and maintain lean muscle mass. Protein helps to convert those fats inside our body becomes muscle. That is why when body building, your weight stays the same, but ur body size become muscular. So, better to take more protein for ur body building.
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post May 7 2006, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(allets @ May 7 2006, 12:57 AM)
Soy Protein and Whey Protein Powder helps to build and maintain lean muscle mass. Protein helps to convert those fats inside our body becomes muscle. That is why when body building, your weight stays the same, but ur body size become muscular. So, better to take more protein for ur body building.
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I think this needs to be rechecked. I'm rather sure, fats can not convert into muscle. Body burns fat, builds muscle with the help of protein. We tear our muscles, protein rebuilds them. Protein never helps body convert fats.

Btw, when I started weightlifting, my weight went from 58KG's to 63KG's
I'm rather sure my body increases in weight.
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post May 7 2006, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(kenyi @ May 6 2006, 12:19 PM)
Protein is energy. They convert into glucose when your body doesnt have enuf carb.
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    *  Protein is used for building, maintaining and repairing muscle, skin, blood, and other tissues
          o energy takes priority over tissue building
    * Very little protein is used as fuel when caloric supply is adequate
          o The best fuel choices are carbohydrates and fats
          o If carbohydrates are not adequate, protein can convert to carbohydrates via gluconeogenesis
          o Nitrogen excretion does not rise following physical activity when carbohydrates are adequate.
                + Protein contains nitrogen
    * The best sources of protein
          o Eggs, milk, and meat
          o Certain vegetable proteins can be eaten together or with animal proteins to compliment proteins for proper amino-acid ratios
                + Beans
                      # High in lysine, low in methionine
                      # Soybean are the exception
                + Grains
                      # High in methionine, low in lysine
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post May 7 2006, 10:23 AM

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Oh.....that's news to me.
can I have the link to where you found that information? (Yeah, I can google...but... I'm lazy, and well gotta have a link to prove it right?)
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post May 10 2006, 01:18 AM

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Just wonder, what do u guys eat when u r starving?? Lets said in the midnight. What I mean is instant but healthy food.

I lazy to cook la.
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post May 10 2006, 10:34 AM

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Easy, I drink milk, drink water, maybe I eat some fruits and salad. Because salad tastes so disgusting, I end up not feeling hungry anymore.

It's not usually, starving, it's more of .....a hunger pang.
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QUOTE(Irresistible @ May 10 2006, 01:18 AM)
Just wonder, what do u guys eat when u r starving?? Lets said in the midnight. What I mean is instant but healthy food.

I lazy  to cook la.
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mm..can try some high protein bar..or some low fat soy nut..can cure ur Itchy mouth n can feel full oso..i ever try..
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post May 10 2006, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ May 4 2006, 10:02 AM)
Give u energy, but the excess will convert to fat !!

I just wonder, avoid rice, noddles. Most of the guys know that, but how to avoid unless u don't eat at all??
maybe u guys can Give some suggestion on what food to replace RICE ?? I have no idea...
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Hmmm...a question i've been asking myself everyday for a week. I didn't touch any bread, noodles nor rice/grain for a week now......

So as long as not the above then can eat lo. If u wanna eat mix rice then only eat the dishes lo. If u wanna eat noddles then only eat the meat without the noddles lo, western food(though i know u can eat it always oso), dim sum, n meat meat meat tongue.gif
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post May 10 2006, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ May 10 2006, 01:18 AM)
Just wonder, what do u guys eat when u r starving?? Lets said in the midnight. What I mean is instant but healthy food.

I lazy  to cook la.
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A hot drink(oat drinks,nestum....) n and non-cream crackers, or apple
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post May 10 2006, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(eivan120 @ May 10 2006, 05:29 PM)
Hmmm...a question i've been asking myself everyday for a week. I didn't touch any bread, noodles nor rice/grain for a week now......

So as long as not the above then can eat lo. If u wanna eat mix rice then only eat the dishes lo. If u wanna eat noddles then only eat the meat without the noddles lo, western food(though i know u can eat it always oso), dim sum, n meat meat meat  tongue.gif
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oh my..i eat rice/noodle+ vegis + meat everyday. but i still managed to lose weight with the shake.
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post May 10 2006, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(allets @ May 10 2006, 05:40 PM)
oh my..i eat rice/noodle+ vegis + meat everyday. but i still managed to lose weight with the shake.
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Good for u then! rclxms.gif but i'm don wanna take supplements for diet.....i seen ppl taking supplements then stop then all came back n u have to have strong urge to control ur food intake without the supplements....Doing this way at the same makes me eat lesser n create a habit there sweat.gif .
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post May 12 2006, 03:26 PM

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hey....anybody here tried Appetien Weightgain(wrong spell>??) b4??
iz it any good???
cuz i heard it can help to increase ur appetite....which i need one tongue.gif


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post May 12 2006, 05:57 PM

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http://nutriweb.org.my/article.php?sid=19

American Heart Association Comments On High Protein Diet As A Strategy For Weight Reduction
Date: Friday, January 11 @ 15:27:11 MYT

You may have heard of some groups promoting high protein diet as a "new" strategy for successful weight loss. Protein content of some of such diets can go up to 30-60% of total energy. Carbohydrate content in such diets is reduced to as low as 5%. Fat energy goes up to as much as 30-60%.They are also recommended as a better "alternative" to the conventional carbohydrate-based diet.

Your patients and subjects must have asked you at some point about such diets. Please do not be misled by promotions of such high protein diets. Please stay with the recommendations of the Ministry of Health and endorsed by the Nutrition Society of Malaysa of the food guide pyramid that you are already familiar with. Almost all health authorities in the world, the WHO and FAO are following the same guidelines.

Below is the abstract of a recent article from the America Heart Association, commenting on this high protein diet. This article appreared in the journal Circulation 104(15): 1869-1874, 2001 and is an official statement from the AHA Science Advisory and Coordinating Committee of June 2001. You can read the full article in: http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/104/15/1869

High-protein diets have recently been proposed as a "new" strategy for successful weight loss. However, variations of these diets have been popular since the 1960s. High-protein diets typically offer wide latitude in protein food choices, are restrictive in other food choices (mainly carbohydrates), and provide structured eating plans. They also often promote misconceptions about carbohydrates, insulin resistance, ketosis, and fat burning as mechanisms of action for weight loss. Although these diets may not be harmful for most healthy people for a short period of time, there are no long-term scientific studies to support their overall efficacy and safety. These diets are generally associated with higher intakes of total fat, saturated fat, and cholesterol because the protein is provided mainly by animal sources. In high-protein diets, weight loss is initially high due to fluid loss related to reduced carbohydrate intake, overall caloric restriction, and ketosis-induced appetite suppression. Beneficial effects on blood lipids and insulin resistance are due to the weight loss, not to the change in caloric composition. Promoters of high-protein diets promise successful results by encouraging high-protein food choices that are usually restricted in other diets, thus providing initial palatability, an attractive alternative to other weight-reduction diets that have not worked for a variety of reasons for most individuals. High-protein diets are not recommended because they restrict healthful foods that provide essential nutrients and do not provide the variety of foods needed to adequately meet nutritional needs. Individuals who follow these diets are therefore at risk for compromised vitamin and mineral intake, as well as potential cardiac, renal, bone, and liver abnormalities overall.


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post May 23 2006, 02:51 PM

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Yeah, never be misled by ads.
You should know what works for you and what doesnt.
Gaining mass or losing fat is never about a high protein or a low carb diet whatsoever. Going low on carbs will swing your insulin level and make you feel weak whilst simply going high on protein will lead you nowhere if not coupled with the proper exercise regiment (there still must be carbs in your diet!). It will be converted nonetheless into fat if it is not broken down. You feel hungry, down and put on 'invisible' poundage in the end.
So in the end its all about balance and a healthy lifestyle.

djjock (certified fitness trainer, sports performance nutritionist)
www.egonutritions.com
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post May 27 2006, 01:50 AM

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anybody here always buy HL milk???
how many u always buy??
i always buy 4 liters of HL milk...
but it ended 1 box of it seems expired although still not exceeding the expired date
demittt >.<


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post May 29 2006, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(bata @ May 27 2006, 01:50 AM)
anybody here always buy HL milk???
how many u always buy??
i always buy 4 liters of HL milk...
but it ended 1 box of it seems expired although still not exceeding the expired date
demittt >.<
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Yeah. Me. I buy about 10 packs at one trip to Tesco.

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