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post Mar 17 2014, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Mar 17 2014, 12:52 AM)
I think you have missed the Ivy Bridge overheat issue. Same thing for Haswell.
The overheat issue is caused by the excessive gap between the die and IHS that makes heat dissipation poorer than expected. Blame Intel for that.  tongue.gif
All you have to do is to void warranty and delid the IHS out of craps then only you will see an 30C drop on temperature.
Same as CPU, overvolt the RAM will benefit overclocking & tighter timing.
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Actually i have no plan to OC RAM, but well, running my RAM at 'default' 2400Mhz already mean i OC from Haswell point of view.

Regarding temp drop after delid, -30'C is just an absolutely best case can achieve, i doubt everyone delid can get the same result. I search the forum, mostly drop around 10~ 15'C only, correct me if i'm wrong. I just worry lesser gain when i delid (<10'C drop), not worth if like that.

Anyway, yesterday i got frustrated by the result, so i pump 1.4v and clock to 4.7Ghz, can boot and running GRID 2 without issue. Today will try to hit 5Ghz with this voltage.

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 17 2014, 09:21 AM)
Actually i have no plan to OC RAM, but well, running my RAM at 'default' 2400Mhz already mean i OC from Haswell point of view.

Regarding temp drop after delid, -30'C is just an absolutely best case can achieve, i doubt everyone delid can get the same result. I search the forum, mostly drop around 10~ 15'C only, correct me if i'm wrong. I just worry lesser gain when i delid (<10'C drop), not worth if like that.

Anyway, yesterday i got frustrated by the result, so i pump 1.4v and clock to 4.7Ghz, can boot and running GRID 2 without issue. Today will try to hit 5Ghz with this voltage.
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Normal TIM will reduce up to 20C. Liquid metal TIM like Coolaboratory Liquid Pro will give another 10C improvement.
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post Mar 17 2014, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Mar 17 2014, 07:07 PM)
Normal TIM will reduce up to 20C. Liquid metal TIM like Coolaboratory Liquid Pro will give another 10C improvement.
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Yesterday just bought a table vise. Now waiting for that moment of indiscretion then will do it....maybe a year later laugh.gif . I will buy G3220 as a backup before i do it. Now just settle with 4.3Ghz with 1.22V.

Anyway, read the forum about temp reduction after delid, it actually depends on originally how loose the contact in between IHS and die, if the gap already small, delid and reapply TIM might only give 7-10'C reduction. 30'C just a rare case.
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CPU-Z 1.69. 0......updated 21.03.2014.....same links as above

ASUS-ROG_CPU-Z 1.69. 0....updated 21.03.2014

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hi guys. im trying to find the lowest voltage for idle for my 4670k. im pretty sure the default (standard) value is 0.8v at 800mhz.

i set the adaptive vcore at 1.1v with offset -0.125v. multiplier is at x38. during idle, my vcore is 0.703v at 800mhz. offsetting to -0.15v causing system hang when launching programs (skyrim tested).

so i need to gather a bit data from you guys, what is your lowest volt for your chip?
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 13 2014, 02:32 PM)
Sad OC result. Don't know whether due to cooler no sitted properly or what. 4.4Ghz with 1.25Vcore CPU already start throttling.

In stock, temp delta between idle and load is too big, which is around 45'C. Load temp during LinX is from 70-85'C, However when i touch my H110 radiator with hand it actually just slightly warm only. Just feel the heat just trap inside the IHS...if really no improvement after i resit the cooler, might as well consider delid the damn thing.
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try these settings and post back with temps.

CPU Clock Ratio - 44
Uncore Ratio - 4.2
Intel® Turbo Boost Technology - Disable
Hyper-Threading Technology - Disable
System Memory Multiplier - 21.33
Channel A Timing Settings:
CAS Latency - 11
tRCD - 13
tRP - 13
tRAS - 30
CPU VRIN Loadline Calibration - Extreme
CPU Vcore - 1.260

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just want to ask, what is the common voltage for i5 4670k at 4.0ghz? does it need to manually set the Voltage if overclock speed at 4.0ghz?
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QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Apr 8 2014, 05:10 PM)
just want to ask, what is the common voltage for i5 4670k at 4.0ghz? does it need to manually set the Voltage if overclock speed at 4.0ghz?
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Average is 1.0-1.15v depending on chip.
You can have it set to auto but the BIOS might supply it excessively. So set it manually is better than letting mobo to decide for you.
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Hi guys, this thread is opened for the recently launched Z97 chipset as well.

Who will be the first Z97 overclocker in this thread? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Apr 28 2014, 11:57 PM)
Hi guys, this thread is opened for the recently launched Z97 chipset as well.

Who will be the first Z97 overclocker in this thread?  biggrin.gif
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U, no doubt about that.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Apr 28 2014, 11:57 PM)
Hi guys, this thread is opened for the recently launched Z97 chipset as well.

Who will be the first Z97 overclocker in this thread?  biggrin.gif
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eh bro thought the k series delayed to end of the year??

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They will released 'OC enhancement' Haswell by mid year, they will 'improve' TIM for this unlocked chip, seems like maybe they back to solder TIM...
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Bought an i5 4670k chip last week, first oc attempt.
Refer photo attached, 1.52v vcore WTF shocking.gif
Need time to explore more sad.gif

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:49 AM)
eh bro thought the k series delayed to end of the year??
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Haswell K is set to be released in 3Q 2014.

QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 29 2014, 12:19 PM)
They will released 'OC enhancement' Haswell by mid year, they will 'improve' TIM for this unlocked chip, seems like maybe they back to solder TIM...
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QUOTE(mpowerwind @ Apr 29 2014, 12:42 PM)
Bought an i5 4670k chip last week, first oc attempt.
Refer photo attached, 1.52v vcore WTF  shocking.gif
Need time to explore more  sad.gif
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Actually it's not really bad when Haswell can do 5.0 with full cores/threads.
Nice wallpaper btw. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Apr 30 2014, 12:00 AM)
Haswell K is set to be released in 3Q 2014.
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Actually it's not really bad when Haswell can do 5.0 with full cores/threads.
Nice wallpaper btw.  laugh.gif
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yeah but this time i aint gonna blow 20k on cpus and made a loss of 2k selling them at a discount.

its not the tim is the only issue. Some of the proc i had.. their vid voltage was the voltage for the multiplier of 39. I was like wtf. 0 headroom

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Apr 30 2014, 12:10 AM)
yeah but this time i aint gonna blow 20k on cpus and made a loss of 2k selling them at a discount.

its not the tim is the only issue. Some of the proc i had.. their vid voltage was the voltage for the multiplier of 39. I was like wtf. 0 headroom
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Yeah same here. Lots of money and time spent for chip binning on 3770K and 4770K end up buying used ones for 2x price lol.

Took them two gens to fix that overheat issue. Hope no more new issue arises on the refresh chip.
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This is my final OC result, i think i will settle with this speed. Only validated by AIDA64, LinX, IBT, Prime95 result will no doubt out of the question and i dun need that as well. Will try and see stability during daily usage/gaming.

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