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post Feb 6 2014, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Feb 5 2014, 05:42 PM)
Thank you taikor  notworthy.gif
Btw, does it have connection in overclocking? Should leave default or better at disable?
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sorry wasnt following the thread.

dont get what ure saying

Intel MEI/ME is a driver thing afaik to control cpu functions. without it overclocks wont work in windows afaik. although since p67 mobo manufactorers found a away around it with uefi etc.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Feb 6 2014, 03:22 PM)
sorry wasnt following the thread.

dont get what ure saying

Intel MEI/ME is a driver thing afaik to control cpu functions. without it overclocks wont work in windows afaik. although since p67 mobo manufactorers found a away around it with uefi etc.
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Heh, Im asking if this got to do with overclocking, & seems your answer is yes
2nd, Im asking if the MEI/ ME got option to disable or enable tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Feb 6 2014, 03:44 PM)
Heh, Im asking if this got to do with overclocking, & seems your answer is yes
2nd, Im asking if the MEI/ ME got option to disable or enable tongue.gif
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eh disable. can lar. go to service and disable lol.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Feb 6 2014, 03:51 PM)
eh disable. can lar. go to service and disable lol.
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Seriously? I thought you said cannot OC later
Hahaa..
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Jan 26 2014, 09:42 AM)
Owh, one more thing
I cant fix my Bus Speed to 100 even I put manual value & Spread Spectrum Disable
Is that common for Asrock board?
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Related: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/01/29/.../7#.UvO8hLSgh9Y
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The Z87 KILLER FATAL1TY also runs its BCLK a bit shy of 100MHz, so you will see some slightly reduced clocks when you check those.

What is pointed out above, which is not much, is basically all the "issues" I had with this motherboard.

The OS and driver install were near perfect as noted. It worked exactly as it should and never gave me an issue with BIOS changes or hot-swapping data drives.


A temporary "fix" is by setting the BCLK one notch higher than 100MHz such as 100.1 or 100.2 etc.
My Z87 OCF doesn't have this issue though. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Feb 7 2014, 12:53 AM)
Related: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/01/29/.../7#.UvO8hLSgh9Y
A temporary "fix" is by setting the BCLK one notch higher than 100MHz such as 100.1 or 100.2 etc.
My Z87 OCF doesn't have this issue though.  hmm.gif
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Thanks for the tips but is that possible to set the value by 0.1 increment?
I cant test right now coz working, might check up later blush.gif notworthy.gif

Wow w0ot?! Such nice review almost cannot believe what exactly this board could offers brows.gif brows.gif

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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Feb 7 2014, 08:33 AM)
Thanks for the tips but is that possible to set the value by 0.1 increment?
I cant test right now coz working, might check up later  blush.gif  notworthy.gif

Wow w0ot?! Such nice review almost cannot believe what exactly this board could offers  brows.gif  brows.gif
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I don't have the board so no idea. But it seems like you have fixed it already with that BCLK @ 100.15MHz biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Feb 7 2014, 09:03 AM)
I don't have the board so no idea. But it seems like you have fixed it already with that BCLK @ 100.15MHz  biggrin.gif

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Heh, me also just realize coz previously the value drop around 99.8Mhz even I put 100Mhz at BIOS
I think the adjustment effect a bit later, lol laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Ive read over the net, few forum regarding OC not recommended Prime95 for Haswell as they mention Prime95 gone really beyond the limits
They suggesting AIDA64 as it were optimized for Haswell

Wht dya think?

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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Feb 8 2014, 02:13 PM)
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Ive read over the net, few forum regarding OC not recommended Prime95 for Haswell as they mention Prime95 gone really beyond the limits
They suggesting AIDA64 as it were optimized for Haswell

Wht dya think?
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Yes, I have heard of that too but won't take it as a good direction.
As for me, what's the point of using a second most stressful app if there's already a better one on top of it.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Feb 10 2014, 06:51 AM)
Yes, I have heard of that too but won't take it as a good direction.
As for me, what's the point of using a second most stressful app if there's already a better one on top of it.
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So how bout IBT? It seems that IBT further extreme compared to Prime95
Example, at same setting, my rig fails stressed with Prime at 40 minutes
But for IBT, it seems much faster, at 7th round it BSOD laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Feb 10 2014, 08:32 AM)
So how bout IBT? It seems that IBT further extreme compared to Prime95
Example, at same setting, my rig fails stressed with Prime at 40 minutes
But for IBT, it seems much faster, at 7th round it BSOD  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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IBT/LinX generates more heat but consumes less voltage. So can say that IBT/LinX is good for testing cooling limit. But it finds error faster than Prime95.
Prime95 on the other hand is good for testing vCore but you need to run it longer to find the error.
But afaik according to cstkl1 all these can't beat the mighty Linpack 11. sweat.gif
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Prime is more into power consumption?
That means it stress the PSU as well?
Is your rig passed the Linpack 11?
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Feb 11 2014, 02:01 AM)
Prime is more into power consumption?
That means it stress the PSU as well?
Is your rig passed the Linpack 11?
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vCore is directly proportional power draw so yes.
Prime95 will affect the PSU lets say a weak PSU will produce worse coil whine when stress under Prime95.
I tried Linpack11 @ 4.5 GHz but my cooling couldn't take the heat sweat.gif Must delid the chip to shave off the temperature.
Haswell is not my 24/7 rig so I didn't put much effort to find its stability.
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Ahh ic, in my situation, when I ran IBT, setup 43x100 it could passed
But when I increase the multi to 44x100, it crashed/ BSOD, both are same vCore
This mean I need to increase the voltage right? Btw, does the cache multi affecting our OC stability??
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Feb 11 2014, 08:29 PM)
Ahh ic, in my situation, when I ran IBT, setup 43x100 it could passed
But when I increase the multi to 44x100, it crashed/ BSOD, both are same vCore
This mean I need to increase the voltage right? Btw, does the cache multi affecting our OC stability??
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Pls refer to the first post of this thread for BSOD codes & OC guides.
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0x101 = increase vcore
0x124 = increase/decrease vcore or QPI/VTT... have to test to see which one it is
0x0A = unstable RAM/IMC, increase QPI first, if that doesn't work increase vcore
0x1E = increase vcore
0x3B = increase vcore
0x3D = increase vcore
0xD1 = QPI/VTT, increase/decrease as necessary, can also be unstable Ram, raise Ram voltage
0x9C = QPI/VTT most likely, but increasing vcore has helped in some instances
0x50 = RAM timings/Frequency or uncore multi unstable, increase RAM voltage or adjust QPI/VTT, or lower uncore if you're higher than 2x
0x109 = Not enough or too Much memory voltage
0x116 = Low IOH (NB) voltage, GPU issue (most common when running multi-GPU/overclocking GPU)
0x7E = Corrupted OS file, possibly from overclocking. Run sfc /scannow and chkdsk /r


ASUS recommends cache frequency to stay at 300MHz lower than core clock for stability.
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Running CPU Cache Ratio faster than processor core frequency does not show any performance gains so we recommend staying in sync with the CPU ratio or within 300MHz (lower than CPU frequency).

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Might not be the right place, but since it has some relation to the BIOS update to H87/B85 chipset that enables overclocking of K series Haswell;

i5-4440 in an Asus H87M-E motherboard with BIOS version 0604 out of the box (dated 30/8/2013). Detected as i5-4440 in BIOS, Windows 7 (My Computer -> Properties), CPU-Z, HWmonitor.

Then I flashed the BIOS to the latest one at https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/H87ME/#support to 0904 (dated 17/1/2014). The changes I observed;

Still detected as i5-4440 in BIOS, Windows 7. But in CPU-Z and HWmonitor it now shows i5-4670S.
Still clocked as 3.1ghz with 3.3ghz turbo like a 4440 and 84w TDP, as 4670s suppose to have 3.8ghz turbo and 65w TDP.

Anybody knows what happened here?

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what is the common stable voltage for 4770k at 4.5ghz 24/7?
does it need to run 4c/8t?
may i know best batch for this CPU? I need to know as im planning to get 4770k.
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Can S, T SKU be overclock ?

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