wah, really all want their opinon here to stand out aa...
for me, gen-2 is a fairly good car. FC is okay.....engine is kinda smooth.
for me the bonus is the handling....nice. price = no comments!

-cheers-

Wah.... i saw a few page back someone tune the car to achieve 130bhp with such a nice torque curve flat all the way at 130hp for quite a wide area of rpm. Serious ar it can achieve that? Any mod? Thts test is measure on the wheel rite? If thts true then the engine not bad wor.... compare to the original one which achieve 110 bhp only at the end of the rpm range.

get lost lah u king of talk cock. I duwan hear u sin ka lan about campro.

Cool down bro... later kena warning by mod

or we all go pay him a visit in setapak....

how about that ?

Sorry guys, cant help but notice all the pro is here so i MUST have your opinion.
Point 1: Campro (Gen2, WAJA) is BAD ... but still better than WIRA
Point 2: Campro is SLOW to respond, BAD for jams.
Point 3: Once speed reach 80km+, Campro is smooth.
k. Reason is i sort of decided to get a WAJA ... but seeing proton STILL sell WAJA with OLD ENGINE at SAME price w CAMPRO. I cannot make up my mind which to take.
Help? My main usage is driving to work, so JAM is a norm. Also, i will need to pass roller coaster road like Genting every day. (luckily short distance)
When i drive, i like to feel POWER and i hate kena CUT QUEUE.
(so if slow to pickup in jam.. u know lah.. always kena slot in one)
I dont care about TOP SPEED, i usually drive around 80-100km only.
Thanks.

You need a 2nd hand Honda City iDSI

This post has been edited by dstl1128: Jun 9 2006, 11:22 AM

campro not good.... go for bmw lah bro....the best!

looking for quieter cabin, less engine sound. go for honda or toyota or hyundai.

Wah 4G91 DOHC also lose?? Like that consider not bad ler at least,,,XD

1.5L vs 1.6L but 1.6L win the 1.5L?

if compare spec to spec both engines should be nearly the same stock
Why don't you try it against a 4G92 SOHC 1.6 and see?

navigator, i hope you actually know how does a VIM device looks like, because as far as my eyes can see, there's no such thing on the Gen2. I hope you're the kind of person that believes in cold hard facts more than hearsay. Proton has already said that there is no VIM in their engine. Who would you choose to believe? Proton, or the mechanics? Even if you choose to believe in yourself, go find the VIM in the engine, ask several mechanics to help you out. If you can find it, then I'd gladly admit my mistake. If not, I believe its common courtesy to apologize for your misinformation regarding that.

navigator, that doesn't answers my question. all the while you are maintaining that campro engine is good because it can be tuned for a flatter torque curve, and that it has VIM in it. You even went as far as claiming the name of Campro is because it has a different profile, when it is just a more aggressive profile and nothing special about it. And its not named Campro because of that, Campro refers to the mechanism, and has nothing to do with cam profiles.

All these misinformation you did not even try to explain, or proof your words. To people who really know the Campro engine, we're actually very amused to see somebody creating such gross misinformation and mislead all the ignorant people in FnF.

Now that your points are proven wrong again and again, I can only wonder when will you finally have the guts to admit your mistakes and indulge everybody in the real fact - Campro is just a plain vanilla DOHC 1.6 engine, with no extra technology in it. And to say you need a tune-up to get a flat torque curve still doesn't make it a good engine because any car with such a tune-up can get much better performance from it. An easy way is to run the engine leaner, and its basically a free DIY process to gain 10-15% power.

CamPro is nothing but just name. No Cam Profile Switching and Variable Intake Manifold technology inside the current 1.3L and 1.6L campro engine. Maybe in the next one or two years time they will have that technology in the so called campro engine.. or maybe never..
it is a stupid action by proton by not using the Petronas E01 engine years ago and develop their own CamPro engine. and now they want to collaborate with Petronas to build E01 range engine for them.

E01e: Originally rated for Euro-2 specifications, the engine was up to Euro 3 early last year.

Damn ... wonder what kind of performance we will be getting from EO1... haihz...

E01? as good as Honda's K20A or even better..

and from wikipedia :
Proton Campro - Still under development, said to be based on Lotus technology which developed Porsche's VarioCam

If u really wants a WAJA .. no other choice.. i would says the waja with mitsubishi engine (4G18) ..it has a peak torque at 2750 rpm .. since u says always JAM .. sure it suits more.. CAMPRO has a peak torque at 4000 rpm (u need to reverb more to get the power out of it).

Something to Clarify, your first point!.. u said Campro (Gen2,WAja) is better than Wira... that is way wrong ... try compare with a Wira LE (1.8 DOHC) .. .. i would say campro would even smell his Arse... ..

oo.. there's a WIRA LE??? dont see it in their website leh...
i just check w a proton outlet.. say they dont have stock for old engine liao.. *sob*

Guess i will have to be a good citizen and support Waja Campro lor.. sigh... i hope i dont regret this.

I dont wanna 2nd hand car.. i scared i got cheated and ended up with something i need to fix all the time.

Anyways... its NOT that BAD ya? NO.. dont answer me. Somehow i feel its BEST to NOT know.

Hrmm.. pardon my noobness.... but whats reverb? some kindof tuning? this mean IF i do something to my Waja Campro, it can improve its performance?
approx how much r these fixings ah? Thanks.