the Campro with CPS should deliver around 130bhp stock.
Campro Engine Good or Not?
Campro Engine Good or Not?
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Apr 29 2006, 02:02 PM
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the Campro with CPS should deliver around 130bhp stock.
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Apr 30 2006, 01:45 AM
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Gen 2 in Japan... ?
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Apr 30 2006, 02:27 AM
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its japan plate number if im not mistaken.. not far from my frens place, he used to stay there.
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May 1 2006, 01:21 AM
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Cam Profile Switching technology by Lotus. Engine developed by Proton.
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May 17 2006, 01:15 PM
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yeah, me too... waiting for the *130bhp 1.6L campro.. and *155bhp R3 tuned campro..
*with CPS and VIM. (heard somewhere) |
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Jun 8 2006, 04:23 PM
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actually, MYVI uses DVVT
Dynamic Variable Valve Timing from Daihatsu, aka VVTI from Toyota. same thing.. |
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Jun 9 2006, 02:01 AM
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back to topic, no need to argue about campro coz i think its a bad engine..
anyway, the biggest cc for campro will be the current 1.6L in Gen2 and Waja. for the 1.8L to 2.2L, Proton will use Petronas E01 engine... In the future(hopefully), get yourself a Proton with E01 engine » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by mockv1per: Jun 9 2006, 02:42 AM |
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Jun 9 2006, 02:51 PM
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CamPro is nothing but just name. No Cam Profile Switching and Variable Intake Manifold technology inside the current 1.3L and 1.6L campro engine. Maybe in the next one or two years time they will have that technology in the so called campro engine.. or maybe never..
it is a stupid action by proton by not using the Petronas E01 engine years ago and develop their own CamPro engine. and now they want to collaborate with Petronas to build E01 range engine for them. E01e: Originally rated for Euro-2 specifications, the engine was up to Euro 3 early last year. |
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Jun 9 2006, 03:05 PM
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E01? as good as Honda's K20A or even better..
and from wikipedia : Proton Campro - Still under development, said to be based on Lotus technology which developed Porsche's VarioCam |
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Jun 11 2006, 12:55 AM
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i think that guy who says campro is better than Vtec is just being sarcastic
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Jun 11 2006, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(ulet @ Jun 11 2006, 11:24 AM) i think they still used the old rover engine for UK market but for US makret, they change it to toyota engine. they change it already.. now with toyota's 1.8L engine..not right ka ? New Models: Lotus launches lead-in Elise 09 Jun 06 15:37 Lotus is fitting the Toyota 1.8-litre engine in the Elise for the European market, replacing the previous entry-level models with the Rover K-series engine. The Elise S features a 136bhp version of the 1.8 VVTi unit, good for 128mph and 0-60mph in 5.8 seconds. Specification is the same as for the rest of the range, though a limited-slip differential will not be on offer as an option. Prices start from just 23,995. The Elise S goes on sale in the UK and other European countries in July, with sales in Japan following in September. It will not go to the US, however, where the 190bhp 'federal' Elise with the same engine is already available. source: 4car |
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Jun 14 2006, 11:04 AM
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just wait for the supercharged CamPro inside Waja Z? that if they supercharged it..
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Jun 16 2006, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Jun 16 2006, 12:00 PM) CPS are suppose to be like VTEC, the cam profiling as in cam lifting. VVTi are cam phasing, but still absent in current Campro. There are report saying Volvo used it (the Lotus Campro engine with Campro)? But I really have hard time googling for it. Anyone have links? And VIM are suppose to be like TVIS of 4AGE in which Toyota later get rid of it on its latest generations. Reality is that all the real-life Proton Campro engine (fitted in Gen2 and Waja) shows mediocre torque in the low-end which is entire against the claim in the Proton site. Until Proton does have it, it is just brochure grade information. The valvetrain features VCT (Variable Cam Timing) and CPS (Cam Profile Switching) on the inlet side - two key elements in providing the engine with excellent driveability and flexibility. CPS (Cam Profile Switching) means that the camshaft is designed such that the inlet valves are lifted to two different heights depending on engine speed and load. In normal driving, with normal throttle opening and low engine revs, fuel consumption is modest at the same time as torque is sufficient to provide good driveability. In more enthusiastic driving involving full throttle opening and high engine revs, the engine responds instantly to the accelerator and provides a massive thrust of power, both at low and at high speeds. "In principle, Cam Profile Switching creates two engines in one," explains Derek Crabb. "We can unite widely differing demands on one and the same engine and easily meet the requirements of customers with entirely different wishes. For instance, we can equally easily satisfy customers who prioritise performance as well as those who are more interested in driving comfort and fuel economy." VIS (Variable Intake System) has been equipped with two throttle flap valves which adjust the intake manifold volume to suit the current driving situation. This results in a uniformly high and broad torque curve. "Through precise interplay with the flap valves we actually get three different torque curves that are integrated with one another," says Derek Crabb. "Consequently, we can exploit the engine's capacity to the maximum and extract the highest possible power throughout the rev range. The result is alert response to the accelerator pedal at both low and high speeds, with both generous power and good driveability." source: http://www.volvocars.com/corporation/NewsE...E556B4BBECBB%7D |
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