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post Sep 4 2013, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Sep 4 2013, 11:14 PM)
I think they need to boost market share more to get those key developers behind popular apps to develop app for Windows Phone. I think the main drawback of Windows Phone is lack of certain essential apps, like banking apps, stock broking apps and some other essential apps that are already available with Android and iOS.  hmm.gif

Cheap phones will boost market share a lot. Look at L520.  rclxms.gif

*Hoping for Microsoft subsidized L1020  rolleyes.gif
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There are working on filling up the apps store with 100 locally made apps by our own Malaysia developers under the icon smart partnership . You should be able to see under Nokia highlights/ icon. The numbers of locally made apps are flooding in right now.


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QUOTE(Icehart @ Sep 4 2013, 11:14 PM)
I think they need to boost market share more to get those key developers behind popular apps to develop app for Windows Phone. I think the main drawback of Windows Phone is lack of certain essential apps, like banking apps, stock broking apps and some other essential apps that are already available with Android and iOS.  hmm.gif

Cheap phones will boost market share a lot. Look at L520.  rclxms.gif

*Hoping for Microsoft subsidized L1020  rolleyes.gif
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While apps do matter, it's not so much of a deal breaker as the lack of features.

I once approached a company (name confidential) with 20+ men with the intent to sell a full package to them, a web service that runs on web (obviously), desktop and mobile app (I'm a MSFT guy, so WinPhone it is). I tried to get them to adopt Lumia 620 (for staff), Lumia 820 / 920 (for execs). The deal didn't materialize.

Why? Lack of features. I demonstrated a lot of features using my 920 back then, and then I let the top execs get their hands on it. The very first question one of them asked, how to attach documents through emails. I showed them, but they were dumbfounded .... It could only attach one doc per email. Seriously? Back then, there was only PDF Reader from MSFT. Again, how to attach PDF, I was screwed.

I demonstrated an alternative, through the use of SkyDrive, but they didn't buy the idea. Next up, the IT guy asked, how to set static IP? Again, I couldn't answer. Corporates sometimes don't just rely on DHCP to do the job. They have specific IP for each device that connects to the network for administrative purposes.

These are very important features, yet, to date, still nowhere to be found. WP, to date, is still very much a commercial phone, not recommended for enterprise use. Had they included those features, imagine how many companies service providers like me could approach? Imagine how many companies are already using Windows Phone right now?
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Sep 5 2013, 08:29 AM)
While apps do matter, it's not so much of a deal breaker as the lack of features.

I once approached a company (name confidential) with 20+ men with the intent to sell a full package to them, a web service that runs on web (obviously), desktop and mobile app (I'm a MSFT guy, so WinPhone it is). I tried to get them to adopt Lumia 620 (for staff), Lumia 820 / 920 (for execs). The deal didn't materialize.

Why? Lack of features. I demonstrated a lot of features using my 920 back then, and then I let the top execs get their hands on it. The very first question one of them asked, how to attach documents through emails. I showed them, but they were dumbfounded .... It could only attach one doc per email. Seriously? Back then, there was only PDF Reader from MSFT. Again, how to attach PDF, I was screwed.

I demonstrated an alternative, through the use of SkyDrive, but they didn't buy the idea. Next up, the IT guy asked, how to set static IP? Again, I couldn't answer. Corporates sometimes don't just rely on DHCP to do the job. They have specific IP for each device that connects to the network for administrative purposes.

These are very important features, yet, to date, still nowhere to be found. WP, to date, is still very much a commercial phone, not recommended for enterprise use. Had they included those features, imagine how many companies service providers like me could approach? Imagine how many companies are already using Windows Phone right now?
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Nice perspective.
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post Sep 5 2013, 09:11 AM

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with price in uk german china and aus,.like rm2500-3000...probably i have to wait a little bit, until the excitement goes down and the price below 2k.
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Sep 5 2013, 08:29 AM)
While apps do matter, it's not so much of a deal breaker as the lack of features.

I once approached a company (name confidential) with 20+ men with the intent to sell a full package to them, a web service that runs on web (obviously), desktop and mobile app (I'm a MSFT guy, so WinPhone it is). I tried to get them to adopt Lumia 620 (for staff), Lumia 820 / 920 (for execs). The deal didn't materialize.

Why? Lack of features. I demonstrated a lot of features using my 920 back then, and then I let the top execs get their hands on it. The very first question one of them asked, how to attach documents through emails. I showed them, but they were dumbfounded .... It could only attach one doc per email. Seriously? Back then, there was only PDF Reader from MSFT. Again, how to attach PDF, I was screwed.

I demonstrated an alternative, through the use of SkyDrive, but they didn't buy the idea. Next up, the IT guy asked, how to set static IP? Again, I couldn't answer. Corporates sometimes don't just rely on DHCP to do the job. They have specific IP for each device that connects to the network for administrative purposes.

These are very important features, yet, to date, still nowhere to be found. WP, to date, is still very much a commercial phone, not recommended for enterprise use. Had they included those features, imagine how many companies service providers like me could approach? Imagine how many companies are already using Windows Phone right now?
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wow a very deep insight into WP for Enterprise rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(mwtang @ Sep 4 2013, 11:25 PM)
There are working on filling up the apps store with 100 locally made apps by our own Malaysia developers under the icon smart partnership . You should be able to see under Nokia highlights/ icon. The numbers of locally made apps are flooding in right now.
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I had the idea of compiling the local apps into a thread and let them shine and perhaps comments on it so that the developers of those app at least have some deep insights on how to improve.

I still remember Nokia company paying 3 figures money for those students who successfully submitted their assignment apps to the Ovi store.

QUOTE(jonchai @ Sep 5 2013, 08:29 AM)
While apps do matter, it's not so much of a deal breaker as the lack of features.

I once approached a company (name confidential) with 20+ men with the intent to sell a full package to them, a web service that runs on web (obviously), desktop and mobile app (I'm a MSFT guy, so WinPhone it is). I tried to get them to adopt Lumia 620 (for staff), Lumia 820 / 920 (for execs). The deal didn't materialize.

Why? Lack of features. I demonstrated a lot of features using my 920 back then, and then I let the top execs get their hands on it. The very first question one of them asked, how to attach documents through emails. I showed them, but they were dumbfounded .... It could only attach one doc per email. Seriously? Back then, there was only PDF Reader from MSFT. Again, how to attach PDF, I was screwed.

I demonstrated an alternative, through the use of SkyDrive, but they didn't buy the idea. Next up, the IT guy asked, how to set static IP? Again, I couldn't answer. Corporates sometimes don't just rely on DHCP to do the job. They have specific IP for each device that connects to the network for administrative purposes.

These are very important features, yet, to date, still nowhere to be found. WP, to date, is still very much a commercial phone, not recommended for enterprise use. Had they included those features, imagine how many companies service providers like me could approach? Imagine how many companies are already using Windows Phone right now?
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jon, *pats shoulder*

All we can do is ask and hope for the best for WP8. Someday those features will be implemented or perhaps a better solution will come out.
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QUOTE(Fhaarkas @ Sep 4 2013, 11:42 PM)
Wow the battery is actually 2000 mAh same as L720.. there's no way it would last half a day if you're taking those 38MP pics.  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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even L920 can't survive longer if using camera too much tongue.gif
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dunno bout you guys but,
this video makes the white L1020 looks TOO DAYMN SEXY!!!



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QUOTE(s7ran9er @ Sep 5 2013, 09:51 AM)
I had the idea of compiling the local apps into a thread and let them shine and perhaps comments on it so that the developers of those app at least have some deep insights on how to improve.

I still remember Nokia company paying 3 figures money for those students who successfully submitted their assignment apps to the Ovi store.
jon, *pats shoulder*

All we can do is ask and hope for the best for WP8. Someday those features will be implemented or perhaps a better solution will come out.
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smile.gif I've moved on to something else until WP catches up
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Is it wrong that I want to buy this so I can call airstrike with my phone while playing XBone?
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post Sep 5 2013, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(s7ran9er @ Sep 5 2013, 09:51 AM)
I had the idea of compiling the local apps into a thread and let them shine and perhaps comments on it so that the developers of those app at least have some deep insights on how to improve.

I still remember Nokia company paying 3 figures money for those students who successfully submitted their assignment apps to the Ovi store.
jon, *pats shoulder*

All we can do is ask and hope for the best for WP8. Someday those features will be implemented or perhaps a better solution will come out.
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well now ICON3 programs is running, u see more local apps developed.
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QUOTE(mwtang @ Sep 5 2013, 11:22 AM)
well now ICON3 programs is running, u see more local apps developed.
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Nice, I wasn't aware of the ICON3 programs. smile.gif

Thanks for noticing.

Will be featuring a thread with local apps when I have the time.
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strong camera competition from Honami and to a certain extent Note III (camera + all inclusive package). How well will the 1020 stack up ? Will 1020 still be marketed (and priced) as a niche device ? Hope not. And great news on the local app support from MSFT.

jonchai, the other mobile ecosystems support the features you mentioned ? I'm a pure Symbian user, and my other IOS and Android friends are all normal users, so i have no insight on the enterprise aspects of those.

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QUOTE(Eoma @ Sep 5 2013, 11:51 AM)
strong camera competition from Honami and to a certain extent Note III (camera + all inclusive package). How well will the 1020 stack up ? Will 1020 still be marketed (and priced) as a niche device ? Hope not. And great news on the local app support from MSFT.

jonchai, the other mobile ecosystems support the features you mentioned ? I'm a pure Symbian user, and my other IOS and Android friends are all normal users, so i have no insight on the enterprise aspects of those.
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Yes, they do
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will L1020 price goes below rm2.1k? since note3 price will below rm2.4k. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(jobneed @ Sep 5 2013, 12:42 PM)
will L1020 price goes below rm2.1k? since note3 price will below rm2.4k.  hmm.gif
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doubt it

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QUOTE(s7ran9er @ Sep 5 2013, 11:36 AM)
Nice, I wasn't aware of the ICON3 programs. smile.gif

Thanks for noticing.

Will be featuring a thread with local apps when I have the time.
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if you wanna kick this off, i can supply u the channels.

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Sep 5 2013, 08:29 AM)
While apps do matter, it's not so much of a deal breaker as the lack of features.

I once approached a company (name confidential) with 20+ men with the intent to sell a full package to them, a web service that runs on web (obviously), desktop and mobile app (I'm a MSFT guy, so WinPhone it is). I tried to get them to adopt Lumia 620 (for staff), Lumia 820 / 920 (for execs). The deal didn't materialize.

Why? Lack of features. I demonstrated a lot of features using my 920 back then, and then I let the top execs get their hands on it. The very first question one of them asked, how to attach documents through emails. I showed them, but they were dumbfounded .... It could only attach one doc per email. Seriously? Back then, there was only PDF Reader from MSFT. Again, how to attach PDF, I was screwed.

I demonstrated an alternative, through the use of SkyDrive, but they didn't buy the idea. Next up, the IT guy asked, how to set static IP? Again, I couldn't answer. Corporates sometimes don't just rely on DHCP to do the job. They have specific IP for each device that connects to the network for administrative purposes.

These are very important features, yet, to date, still nowhere to be found. WP, to date, is still very much a commercial phone, not recommended for enterprise use. Had they included those features, imagine how many companies service providers like me could approach? Imagine how many companies are already using Windows Phone right now?
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Indeed. Before WP8, it's worst. I really cannot believe it's an OS from Microsoft.

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More detailed guide on how to take photos using 1020

http://pocketnow.com/2013/08/12/how-to-tak...-the-lumia-1020


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QUOTE(jobneed @ Sep 5 2013, 12:42 PM)
will L1020 price goes below rm2.1k? since note3 price will below rm2.4k.  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(mwtang @ Sep 5 2013, 01:04 PM)
doubt it
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shakehead.gif doh.gif Disappointed to learn that.
I am budget it for about RM2.1, not more than that.

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