Aku tak boleh nak cerita real figure of operation cost of 17 Squadron per annum,
takut nanti boleh disalah guna oleh orang yang tak bertanggung jawab serta ada harapan aku masuk lokap (hishhh mintak jauhhhhh~)

Typhoon.
1. Cost per aircraft mahal (T3)
2. Support crew ramai
3. Supports machine seperti, dehumidifier, total renovation of hanger to fully air condition, extra care product (nak jaga fuselage kat cuaca panas)
4. Limited technology due to many of it still in testing phase
5. Nak bayar duit kat 5 negara (remember that this plane is build from 5 different nation)
6. Not battlefield proved yet!

Superhornet (or other US plane)
The most best choice, in term of money and matured technology but
1. Limited technology, resource and weapon. Yes US will determined and controled what we will get. (The closer you with US, they will favour you. We are not that close to US like the SG, TH and Indo)
2. Close watch from the US congress and every major decision or modification on the toys need the US congress written consent.
3. Banyak procedure nak kene buat bila dealing with US toys.
4. Rujuk no.3 WE CAN'T GET WHAT WE WANT - kalau tidak in 2000++ kita dah pakai SH with AESA radar. Malaysia was the 1st country offered to have SH in exchange for their F/A-18D
5. Again political factor involved is huge
Rafale
1. Cost more than SH but less then Typhoon
2. Battlefield proven and good track record during Libya war where only the Rafale go deep to destroy SAM battery radars
3. Have a good weapon proven system.
4. We can built our own Rafale kat Malaysia
5. We can get what we want in term of weapon, system and sensors.
6. MKM have a similar system to Rafale so TUDM have operated a familiar system to Rafale (tak percaya tengok video pilot TUDM MKM pilot sekarang pakai helmet French)
7. Again, the weapon in rafale also can be used with MKM (MICA)

Gripen
1. The most economical choice
2. Less crew to operate and less support crew need
3. TUDM prefer dual engine but ready to make exception
4. Some parts esp the engine are US made, so tengok balik SH no.1
5. Good weapon system
6. Leased with option to buy are available.
7. A good interim replacement for MMRCA candidate (Rafale/Typhoon/SH) before the arrival in 2020
8. Good replacement for F5E fleet and Hawk!

so tengok sendiri la kenapa wa PILIH rafale over Typhoon! 

Sekarang South Korea sudah buka tender bagi Euro Fighter, Boeing, Lockheed Martin. Kita teagok macam mana dengan South Korea juga.

Kalau US bagi deal bagus tanpa banyak restriction, kita angkat sahaja la SH.

Kalau tidak, Rafale itu nampaknya ialah best choice yang tertinggal.

in the 2000s
TUDM just wanted 1 simple thing for Super Hornet
AESA radar!

and US says



and TUDM reply



until now
hahaha

Aku tak boleh nak cerita real figure of operation cost of 17 Squadron per annum,
takut nanti boleh disalah guna oleh orang yang tak bertanggung jawab serta ada harapan aku masuk lokap (hishhh mintak jauhhhhh~)

Typhoon.
1. Cost per aircraft mahal (T3)
2. Support crew ramai
3. Supports machine seperti, dehumidifier, total renovation of hanger to fully air condition, extra care product (nak jaga fuselage kat cuaca panas)
4. Limited technology due to many of it still in testing phase
5. Nak bayar duit kat 5 negara (remember that this plane is build from 5 different nation)
6. Not battlefield proved yet!

Superhornet (or other US plane)
The most best choice, in term of money and matured technology but
1. Limited technology, resource and weapon. Yes US will determined and controled what we will get. (The closer you with US, they will favour you. We are not that close to US like the SG, TH and Indo)
2. Close watch from the US congress and every major decision or modification on the toys need the US congress written consent.
3. Banyak procedure nak kene buat bila dealing with US toys.
4. Rujuk no.3 WE CAN'T GET WHAT WE WANT - kalau tidak in 2000++ kita dah pakai SH with AESA radar. Malaysia was the 1st country offered to have SH in exchange for their F/A-18D
5. Again political factor involved is huge
Rafale
1. Cost more than SH but less then Typhoon
2. Battlefield proven and good track record during Libya war where only the Rafale go deep to destroy SAM battery radars
3. Have a good weapon proven system.
4. We can built our own Rafale kat Malaysia
5. We can get what we want in term of weapon, system and sensors.
6. MKM have a similar system to Rafale so TUDM have operated a familiar system to Rafale (tak percaya tengok video pilot TUDM MKM pilot sekarang pakai helmet French)
7. Again, the weapon in rafale also can be used with MKM (MICA)

Gripen
1. The most economical choice
2. Less crew to operate and less support crew need
3. TUDM prefer dual engine but ready to make exception
4. Some parts esp the engine are US made, so tengok balik SH no.1
5. Good weapon system
6. Leased with option to buy are available.
7. A good interim replacement for MMRCA candidate (Rafale/Typhoon/SH) before the arrival in 2020
8. Good replacement for F5E fleet and Hawk!

so tengok sendiri la kenapa wa PILIH rafale over Typhoon! 

Aku bukan sangat tahu jet fighter punya orang pun tahu itu barang penting..... 

personally ill take griphen or sh
btw bang antar address utk brg ni

Tak semestinya kita nak naval version, USAF pun ada operate F18 juga, tak semestinya navy
task dia tu penting, electronic suite serta weapon load pada SH juga penting.

Northrop F-18L....pendek nyawa beliau.and one of the reason why Northrop company lingkup

but the variant are used by Finland

cuba kau perhati betul-betul bukan ke semua yang kuat makan minyak tu adalah pesawat pejuang yang dibina khas untuk Navy atau lebih senang cerita dibina khas untuk naik pesawat pengangkut perang.. sebab tu enjin dia dibina amat kuat kedarah minyak.. dia nak berlepas naik dari aircraft-carrier tu guna banyak sungguh tenaga

semua kat bawah ni dibina khas untuk navy (naik aircraft carrier punya) sebab tu kedarah minyak gak
.............

F/A-18EF Super Hornet -- 0.17 km/liter (paling tak ekonomi)
F/A-18 HORNET -- 0.29 km/liter (tak berapa ekonomi nih)
Dassault Rafale -- 0.27 km/liter (tak berapa ekonomi juga nih)

Rheinmetall To Supply Tank Subsystems to Arab Country

Jun. 18, 2013 - 12:12PM   |  
By ALBRECHT MÜLLER   | 

BONN — Germany’s Rheinmetall has won a decisive share in a new project in the Middle East with a €475 million (US $635.6 million) order from an unnamed Arab country for subsystems and services for Leopard 2A7 main battle tanks and PzH 2000 self-propelled howitzers.

Rheinmetall did not identify the customer country, but German press reports on the contract noted that German company Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW) recently received an order from Qatar for about 62 Leopard 2 main battle tanks and 24 PzH 2000 howitzers, which are mounted on armored vehicles.

Rheinmetall will supply complete L55-type tank guns for more than 60 tanks, together with fire-control electronics and electro-optical sensors for the medium-caliber weapon station. In addition, it will manufacture the chassis and L52 main armament for more than 20 self-propelled howitzers, and supply a complete driver training vehicle.

The order includes 120mm ammunition for the Leopard and 155mm ammunition for the PzH 2000 in multiple variants, as well as MTLS modular propelling charges for the artillery system. The Düsseldorf-based Rheinmetall Group also will be responsible for a spare parts package and special tools, plus training and documentation services.

Delivery will take place between 2015 and 2018.

Generally, KMW’s Leopard 2 is armed with Rheinmetall’s 120mm smoothbore gun and outfitted with its fire-control technology and C4I systems. The PzH 2000 is jointly produced by Rheinmetall Defence and Krauss-Maffei Wegmann, with Rheinmetall responsible for roughly 50 percent.

according to Marhalim, airforce right now in the process of preparing FRP for MRCA....
and leasing is one of the option...

SHAH ALAM: RMAF chief Jen Tan Sri Rodzali Daud confirmed today that the RFP for the MRCA programme will be out soon. He told Malaysian Defence that the air force was in the midst of preparing the requirements for the MRCA before presenting it to the government to issue out the RFP.
He was accompanying Defence Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein for a visit to the Subang air base. Among the aircraft on static display was a Eurocopter EC-725 (tail number 04), a F/A-18D Hornet (07), a King Air, a Hercules C130, CN235 and a Sukhoi Su-30MKM.The Cougar 04 together with tail number 3 (not displayed) were recently ferried from France and was undergoing final tests before delivery to the RMAF.
Rodzali didnt say when the RFP is expected to be issued as the matter rightfully belonged to the government. He however indicated that leasing was an option that the government might have to decide on for the programme due to affordability issues. That said, he indicated that it does not mean the Gripen was a shoe-in for the programme but it was clear with the leasing gambit, the Swedish single engine jet had catapulted itself to the forefront of the competition.
However as I mentioned before if the RFP- some sources says it will be issued after the Umno elections in October – document call for leasing as an option it is more than likely that the Eurofighter consortium will offer a similar deal for the Typhoon. I am not sure whether the Typhoon package will be cheaper than the Gripen but it will be interesting to see that play out within the next few months.
In an email interview for Asian Defence Journal, Rodzali stated that four contenders remained in the MRCA race namely (in no particular order) Typhoon, Gripen, Rafale and Super Hornet. He stated that the Su-30MKM is out of the competition although he did not mentioned the reason.

As Rodzali also said that they had no plans to upgrade or extend the service of the MiG-29 it therefore expected that the Russian jets will be retired by 2015. Upgrades (limited to updates to the navigation system to comply with new air traffic management) to the Hercules was ongoing though there was no plans to do so for the Hawk.
As for the AEW, Rodzali said today that the matter was still under consideration though he indicated that the air force would prefer a jet solution instead of a turbo-prop.

–Malaysian Defence

ini semua atreyuangel punya pasal la nihh promo kuat sangat rafale dan mistral dia..
sampai eurofighter pun dah macam lemah semangat dah, nak bagi pinjam je pesawat dia kat kita

mesti dulu malaysia beli scorpene ke ec725 pun semua sebab si atreyuangel kuat betul promo barang-barang perancis dia.. huhu

aik pasal aku ke?
err sapa2 loyer kat /K sila tolong aku mintak duit consultant dari France defense punya firm!

asal x suppork griphen

Malaysia Invests In Sukhoi Fighter Readiness

by  Vladimir Karnozov
June 17, 2013, 4:10 AM

The events in Sabah, Malaysia, this past March, when local forces conducted Operation Daulat used combat jets to quell the resistance of the Filipino gunmen on the island of Borneo, may have prompted a spate of arms sales to that country and her closest neighbors. The armed forces do have a big wish list for weapons, but procurement processes for the most expensive and longest-lead items are likely to be launched properly only after the general elections in Malaysia later this year. In the meantime, the ministry of finance and the royal treasury–the two main watchdogs–are loosening their grips somewhat so as to give the air force the means to improve its fleet readiness.

In late March, Sukhoi won a three-year contract called “The supply of articles, services and technical assistance for Su-30MKM aircraft” worth RM300 million (more than U.S.$100 million), three times the allocation over the previous three-year period. Respective documents were signed by MOD secretary general Datuk Dr. Haji Ismail Haji Ahmad, with Sukhoi deputy general director for marketing Alexander Klementiev and director for after-sales support Vyacheslav Lozan. The increased spending is meant to boost combat readiness of the Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) Su-30MKM fleet from the current level of 65 to 70 percent to 85 percent in the “near term” and eventually increase this to 100 percent. The RMAF’s 11th Squadron stationed at Gong Kedak has 18 heavyweight twin-engine vectored-thrust fighters received new from Irkut’s IAZ factory in 2007-2011. After the manufacturer’s guarantee period expired, most of the Russian support team departed Gong Kedak AFB, leaving only three of their number–and they then left this past January following expiration of the previous service contract.

“The notable increase in spending on our services will allow our specialists to more closely monitor the aircraft operations and shorten the reaction time to RMAF requests for spares and repair services. Importantly, the new contract calls for a permanent presence of Sukhoi advisors and technicians at Gong Kedak,” Klementiev told AIN. The contract calls for deliveries of additional aerodrome equipment, increase of spares and expendables stocks, carrying out on-site repairs of onboard equipment, consultancy and training for RMAF maintainers.

As part of the aircraft delivery contract, Russia built the Sukhoi Technical Center (STC) at Gong Kedak. It was completed and handed over to the Malaysian government, which appointed Aerospace Technology Systems Corp. (ATSC) to be the operator. To work at full capacity, STC’s warehouses need to be filled with spares, expendables and maintenance tools, as necessary, which will be done under the new contract. The facility has several workshops and will permit RMAF and ATSC to perform maintenance, except major overhaul of airframes, engines and the most complex parts of onboard systems. Sukhoi assessed ATSC staff members as “well educated” but indicated they need more training in performing manufacturer-prescribed work on Russian-made jets.

RMAF crews have mastered aerobatics and use of vectored thrust, attracting praise from the Russian air force commander Gen. Victor Bondarev, while he was attending the LIMA 2013 show. Following training of the initial group of Malaysian fighter pilots, Sukhoi and Irkut ceased such services four years ago. They hoped the customer would award them a new contract for pilot training “sometime in the future to ensure that the RMAF 11th Squadron crews are able to use the Su-30MKM capabilities to full extent,” including application of precision-guided munitions. “This would require us to send a group of highly skilled engineers and pilots there who have the complete knowledge of the type’s functional capabilities,” said Klementiev.

ATSC was founded in 1994 as a joint venture with a 70-percent stake held by National Aerospace and Defense Industries, and the rest by Russian partners, and runs the MiG Technical Center at Kuantan AFB and MiG Component Repair Center at MEC City. The company claims to have mastered checks on the Su-30MKM after each 200 flight hours and servicing procedures on the airplane’s OEPrNK optronic aiming and navigation complex system, OLS optical locator, N011M “Bars” fire control radar and fly-by-wire systems, as well as AL-31FP engine module changes.

Despite the increase in funding for RMAF, salesmen remain cautious about prospects of replacement for 18 MiG-29N/NUBs delivered in 1995. “We know about the plans of the military, but we also hear about the economy slowdown and the respective position of the ministry of finance. Cost-effective upgrade solutions may win over,” Victor Komardin, deputy head of Russia’s Rosoboronexport arms sales agency, told AIN.

Guided by this knowledge, Rosoboronexport is offering an upgrade package to the RMAF’s 18-year-old MiGs, which will boost their capability and extend their lifetime to 40 years. Should the customer decide to replace the MiGs with newer aircraft, Russia is ready to supply additional quantities of advanced Su-30MKMs or even consider a request for a fifth-generation fighter. “We are keen to take part in any competition in Malaysia that is officially opened,” Komardin said. Other candidates to replace RMAF MiG-29s are the Boeing F/A-18F Super Hornet, EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon, Dassault Rafale and Saab Gripen.