I quoted the part How about giving you my colls phone number, you can call them and ask them?

I believe I have the right to presume, COLL=colleague [Define=a person somebody works with] Following the lead of the definition, then you'd have to work with this person to call him/her your colleague. Hence, you work with this company.
Or are you plainly saying, your colleague uses this product and you want me to call your colleague to confirm it?

Or do you mean COLL as in college [Define=Institution of higher education]?
For if it IS coll=college then why would you want to give me the number of your college? It'd prove of no beneficial purposes to me whatsoever.
I wouldn't be able to verify the facts with your college, unless it's involved in the research of the product.

I say, even though it's not the end of the 3 month stint, you can still post your body picture to compare to the times before using it.
I quote you ;

So consider you think you're thinner compared to how you were a month ago, I believe this pleads a photo proof.

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: May 7 2006, 10:30 AM

Coll = Colleauges. I am working in a software company. None of them uses this product.

Okie..proof...

Wouldn't multivitamins be cheaper ? heck, not eating every day would be cheaper still.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/print_ve...62183414B7F0000

If you eat every other day, you'd still be able to survive. Your body will burn fat before it starves. So if you're fat, just don't eat every day. Eat maybe every other day, you'll be slimmer soon enough. And you'll save money too.

This post has been edited by wodenus: May 7 2006, 03:06 PM

You're goin to hate me for saying this, but, add a lil workout to it.

Jog 30 minutes , start with a brisk walk, then progress to a jog, and end with a high intensity 30 second sprint with all your might to the end of the road.

Skipping's good too.

Add some light weightlifting and squatting. (Squats are monsters!!!!!!!!!)
You can lose weight, but doing these will help you look leaner, and more vuloptuous.

Yes, agree..workout is good. but put ur in the shoe for those really over fat people. would they be still so hardworking to do workout? when they are fat, they already have difficulty in moving around..especially both the thighs are rubbing against each other when walking...

yes, agree. don't eat also can survive. but our main goal is to lose weight in a safe and effective ways. by straving is not a good way, cause will feel tired and no energy...yes, there is also other alternative of losing weight, just that with the shake to replace ur meal is a convenient and low calorie meal. and of course, people who wanted to lose weight, can choose anyway that they like or free, but will they see the effects in long run? will they be healthy after the successful dieting? if so, why so many ppl still complaint that they failed to diet? why? they will tell u, i starve, but why i am still so fat? or i didnt eat carbo, why still so fat? or i do aerobic everyday, why i stop aerobic, i become double size?

Okay, this is absolubte crap.

I was overweight at once when I was 14. I think I had about 18% bodyfat, and I was a guy for pete's sakes. I wasn't heavy, but I had flab and fats on excess. I had a belly. I know the thigh problem , trust me.
I took the first step, went swimming for it wasnt' that difficult and it was fun. Then I went for jogging and skipping and watched my diet. I cut off rice in my diet and did push-ups and sit-ups daily. Did taekwondo and softball.

It toughened me up and cut my fat down to 13% when I was 15. I remember the new year that my aunt from australia complimented me on losing a heck load of weight.

It didn't stop there, and now I stand at about 11% bodyfat and going heavier on muscle mass.

It's a mental lie to say you cannot workout.
Software developers like my cousin who sits in the PC for hours and hours do workout through the day.

When sitting, he does stomach vacums. When goin to work, he walks a little longer. He takes the stairs. He has small dumbells at his workplace to lift when he's having a short break. He drinks water instead of coke, he takes hard boiled eggs for protein instead of bread. He eats veggie instead of pork at the mixed rice stall. Before sleep, he does yoga to relax, or he does push-ups. 10 minutes, push-ups, won't tire you out too much if you have the proper discipline. He does meditation.
He doesn't look too muscular, but he's got proper definition and right shape.

This is a healthy lifestyle, for working people.

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: May 8 2006, 12:18 AM

is this ur pic ma?
i really admire ur courage for putting up ur pics...

currently...i'm oso consuming the product now and hopefully can c some result soon... hehe...

anyway ganbate to all herbalife companions..

i'm using the product the 5th day..did drop more then 1 kg le..if ur fren got interest to kw more..i can share..oso..herbalife is not only for lose weight..cos it can gain weight with the SAME product oso lo..tat's wat i heard from my cousin from Singapore..

If you eat anything which causes a caloric deficit (less than what your body needsto maintain current body mass) OF COURSE you lose weight. If you eat glass noodles like another person suggested for 5 days straight u will also lose weight but glass noodles has almost no nutrients whatsoever.
If u are gonna take milkshake with 150 calories to replace with one meal of course in the end you will lose some weight(most probably water)because your body is taking in less than it needs to maintain your current weight. If milkshake has some protein some vits etc not so bad. But in the end its not a good solution because you would have done nothing to tone your muscles or build more musles mass or your heart health(through aerobic exercise) or increase your metabolic rate which helps regulate your weight gain/loss and keep u in good general health. In summary, supplementary diet milkshakes are not good for your health.

Hmm, are you a doctor? Please don't make any assumptions when you dont understand about Herbalife products. If it cant tone the muscle, ppl slimming down using meal replacement, then i guess there will be a lot a lot of skin dangling around...but how come no leh?? have you tried the product urself and u encounter tat? pls advise.

Do squats, using stairs instead of lift, light weight lifting and be more active really helps... .can see the effect in 1 week just like Pizzaboy said!

lol! I don't need to be a doctor to know this since it's BASIC biology and body/health sciences. Again I don't need to be a doctor to know that replacing meals with whatever diet milkshake is NOT A GOOD IDEA or a long term replacement for healthy living and healthy diet. Granted I have no clue what potentially false claims Herbalife or any other diet supplement company is making.

I do know something about weightloss since I lost 12 kilos 2 years ago at the age of 30 from healthy eating and moderate exercise. The weight loss plateaud after the 7th month so i basically lost 1.5 kilos on average a month. Even then,my diettician said it was already pretty drastic. I have increased muscle mass by 9% so the weight I gained back was partly in new/more muscle formed. That's healthy.Losing water weight is not healthy or rather it's pointless since the moment u backslide you're gonna inflate those fat cells again. Up to you, it's your body, but again, IT AIN"T HEALTHY. Weightloss is nothing in long run, healthy lifestyle is important. In fact, in women, rapid weight loss has been known to deplete bone density.

BTW, if it is at all relevant, 4 out of 5 of my family members are doctors/healthcare professionals so I do know something about healthcare.

Haha! y become fat in the first place??

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lol! I don't need to be a doctor to know this since it's BASIC biology and body/health sciences. Again I don't need to be a doctor to know that replacing meals with whatever diet milkshake is NOT A GOOD IDEA or a long term replacement for healthy living and healthy diet. Granted I have no clue what potentially false claims Herbalife or any other diet supplement company is making.

I do know something about weightloss since I lost 12 kilos 2 years ago at the age of 30 from healthy eating and moderate exercise. The weight loss plateaud after the 7th month so i basically lost 1.5 kilos on average a month. Even then,my diettician said it was already pretty drastic. I have increased muscle mass by 9% so the weight I gained back was partly in new/more muscle formed. That's healthy.Losing water weight is not healthy or rather it's pointless since the moment u backslide you're gonna inflate those fat cells again. Up to you, it's your body, but again, IT AIN"T HEALTHY. Weightloss is nothing in long run, healthy lifestyle is important. In fact, in women, rapid weight loss has been known to deplete bone density.

BTW, if it is at all relevant, 4 out of 5 of my family members are doctors/healthcare professionals so I do know something about healthcare.

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oh ya..i ever think tat is it safe i took tis way to lose weight?? but i do trust my cousin..and my own eyes lo..cos she lose 10 kg in 3 mths..n totally change a new person since i nvr see her for many years...and last time..she use to be took diabetis n high blood medicine to control her sickness for many many many years..but tat day when she came to KL..she did show me the report..her diabetis n high blood is in normal level le..and oso stop her medicine..i dun know why n wat thing is tat so miracal?i have tyroid n sinus also for many years..i really hope tat..beside then lose weight..i oso can improve my sickness..n get back my health..

I practially slimed down in 3 months by doing exercising and light weightlifting (my own dumbell, don't have access to gym) and replacing the lift with the traditional stairs. Results come pretty fast and I get muscle not just LOSE the fat infact I gained 2kg but overall I look way thinner then I was before.

Blame my gf. Damn good cook man.

Also becoz of my working schedule.Travel, eat in hotel,work thru nite,no sleep come back from work sleep thru weekend. But all that is over,old man already cannot tahan that kinda lifestyle.

Now back to my college days weight with a good healthy way of life. I think i look pretty good for my age *ahem*

wow..good good...when someone becomes thinner/slim down, he/she will automatically looks younger.

I think, it's just a matter of getting your food right, your excercise right and your discipline right. You seriously can't keep givin in to temptation of nice food, and good rest.

The body's a lazy piece of crap....It'd rather "channel surf" than "body surf".
You gotta train it, train it hard (well not so hard) and keep a good healthy diet. Follow the food pyramid.



However, I strongly disagree on carbohydrates (rice) being taken most. I think, fruits and meat should share the largest share of the table, and carbohydrates taking second place.

One thing I'm worried about a bodybuilder's diet, is the fact that bodybuilders, focus a lot on protein.
Protein, and more protein. So, that is rather, scary. Sometimes, I wonder whether bodybuilders get enough of the other important vitamins and nutrients or not.