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This post has been edited by Exodius: Aug 6 2019, 04:12 PM

http://www.lpqb.org.my/images/psag/Pengumu...Kredit%20BM.pdf

90% foundation cert may be rejected? Any idea what other cert (other than STPM) that has a better chance? Thank you in advance.

Well I just received a message from BAC

RM0.00 BAC: The LPQB via a statement dated 26/10 will now accept students with Foundation/Diploma Pre-U qualifications to sit for CLP. Please inform your friends who may not have been able to register before this. Please contact BAC for more info. TQ



This post has been edited by melvin418: Oct 31 2018, 12:37 PM

Btw, meaning that LPQB now accepted Diploma cert for entry to CLP?

Hi. I probably can share a little cause we have similarity.

Ive done uol llb, clp, acca and cfa and i must say finance or accounting related papers are generally easier for self study, as the subject matter is pretty much straight forward and less arguable (except cfa l3). If you done self study for cfa l3 then u might hace a fair chance to pass first year llb.

Having said that uol llb interntional program is "meant for self study" but i think it is better to attend lesson + take the opportunity for networking. I didnt end up practicing law for obvious reason, remuneration. Think properly first if law is really what you want to do. Age doesnt matter. I know a prof who passed his clp exam at the age of 4x plus. He also has prior accounting background.

To sit for clp u only need second lower.

Sekarang job market untuk peguam ok tak?

Job market untuk peguam sentiasa ada. Akan tetapi can you withstand the pressure from your clients or your superior (deadlines, deadlines and again deadlines). Legal profession is a service industry and you need to understand that when comes to service, different clients will have different preference style of service. Bear that in mind that there are no one approach suits all types of clients. For eg, there are clients who don't give fu^k sh^t whether you are on holiday or not because they need the agreement to be signed tomorrow, it's their tomorrow, not your tomorrow. Other stakeholders like the court, land office, stamp office are the same too.

Actually CLP divided into how many exams? If comditional pass then just need to retake that failed subjects only or what? Did your friend passed already after retake?

Why law firm also will have high turnover? The lawyers always quit the jobs? i thought there is very limited law firms compare to other business.

Wow, after finished your law degree but you did not practicing law? Then have you finished your CLP and done chambering 9 months?

hi, i'm a pupil-in-chambers who's going to finish my chambering in 2 or 3 months. I want to ask for your learned opinion;

i) I am interested to do criminal litigation, but i don't want to leave civil litigation. Thus, after my chambering ends, should i go for a good civil liti firm then only i opt for a criminal liti firm after i acquired the skills needed in civil liti?; or

should i go straight to criminal firm and opt for civil liti firm later if needed so that i can get the best of both?

ii) do top firms (skrine, shearn, shooklin, thomas philips etc.) have any other perks besides the pay? I know the exposures etc. are there but still, you can get them in any other firm. This should be on the perspective of a practicing lawyer not a chambee.

Thank you!

Hi all, if there js anyone intend to sell away your clp materials (from atc or bac), kindly pm me. Just want to have the materials and compare whats the differences in the past 5 years.

Hi all. Im an accountant and few years back i actually passed my uol llb. While i have made my decision to stay i finance industry, i felt like probably it is times for me to also study clp since my work life now is more menageable.

My question is, assuming i pass the clp, must i attend pupilage for 9 months immediately, or the 9 months training can be of anytime? Im currently just intent to evaluate the option that i have although i do not foresee that i will be practising law in near future. Dont think i will be so enthu to pursue any further study once i hit 30 years old.

I passed CLP in 2014 and commenced pupilage in 2018.

you can do your pupillage anytime once you passed your CLP Cert. THere's no expiration period or whatsoever.

the firms that you mentioned aside from thomas philips with its transparent pay structure listed on their website, their pay and perks are not really good compare to other big firms.

Hello people, im a uol law student and will be starting my year 2 soon. I will be taking EU law as one of my electives because im studying BPTC after my degree. I just wanted to ask in between Family law and Commercial law, which is the better option career wise? Say if i took commercial law as my second elective, will i still be able to practice family law after my BPTC?

Hi, CLP student here (graduated from UOL)

quite rare for UOL students to take BPTC pathway for two reasons:

1) Financial capabilities (typically BPTC mostly consists of UKT students unless ineligible due to UEC)
2) Typically, middle to upper end BPTC schools only accept second upper honours students and above, not second lower and below. Typically if you're in UOL you're far more likely to get second class lower.

I'm sure by now you would have heard from lecturers or other students that a UOL second lower = UKT second upper. I would agree, based on my experience.

I'm not against UKT, I think UKT is a far fairer system toward students than UOL. But it is no secret that the makeup of UOL students getting second class lower and third class is far higher (83%) than second upper and above (17%).


UKT


UOL


Every BPTC graduates I know got booted out from the UK back to Malaysia, save for some who managed to marry a UK citizen or living there on an expired visa.

In regards to your second question, it does not matter which elective you take. Electives are just that, electives. Commercial law IMO is a far easier subject than family law, not as case law heavy, principles are easy to understand. Statistics show that the median mark for commercial law paper is higher than family law. If you intend on practicing in Malaysia (which, trust me, is often the case) you'll learn more in-depth about it in CLP, which will ultimately be the relevant knowledge when being considered for a chambering position.

But to really answer your question, doesn't matter if you take commercial or family, you'll still be able to practice in whatever field you want after.

CLP exams are good for life. You can do pupillage at any time you'd like. As long as you meet the statutory requirements, you're good to file your petition.

9 subjects. 5 papers. 1 sitting over the period of two weeks in July / August.

Pass all: can proceed to do pupillage
Failed 1: Allowed to resit in November for that paper only. (max 3 resit attempts)
Failed 2 or more: Resit all 5 papers in the following year again. (maximum 3 resit attempts)

Hi guys! I have recently completed my pupillage at one of the bigger firms in the country, decided not to stay on. Just wanted to ask if you all have any suggestions on which firms are good for a first year associate to work at in the area of civil litigation?

Possibly some medium-big firms or some boutique litigation firms? Thanks in advance.