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post Oct 31 2016, 11:01 AM

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Civil procedure past year analysis (from year 2011-2015) is up for free. Hope all of you find it useful.
http://clponlinemy.wixsite.com/mysite/civil-procedure-1
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post Mar 17 2017, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(me_1980s @ Oct 31 2016, 11:01 AM)
Civil procedure past year analysis (from year 2011-2015) is up for free. Hope all of you find it useful.
http://clponlinemy.wixsite.com/mysite/civil-procedure-1
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Thanks for sharing! smile.gif
Especially the past year analysis.

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post May 9 2017, 01:11 AM

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Hey there, need some advices from ugaiz. I'm currently waiting for upu result to come out. I chose UM as my first choice for law. I got 4.0 in STPM and band 5 in MUET.

The CLP exemption is really tempting, but I read somewhere that law graduates with CLP are better than those without and are higher sought by law firms.

Should I go to private institutions like Taylor's or BAC instead? Does UM law school has a higher quality of education than those of private uni?
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post May 9 2017, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Baboonation @ May 9 2017, 01:11 AM)
Hey there, need some advices from ugaiz. I'm currently waiting for upu result to come out. I chose UM as my first choice for law. I got 4.0 in STPM and band 5 in MUET.

The CLP exemption is really tempting, but I read somewhere that law graduates with CLP are better than those without and are higher sought by law firms.

Should I go to private institutions like Taylor's or BAC instead? Does UM law school has a higher quality of education than those of private uni?
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it doesn't matter. your degree and your qualifications are just mere requirements for you to work. you attitude is the most important aspect.
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post May 20 2017, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(Baboonation @ May 9 2017, 01:11 AM)
Hey there, need some advices from ugaiz. I'm currently waiting for upu result to come out. I chose UM as my first choice for law. I got 4.0 in STPM and band 5 in MUET.

The CLP exemption is really tempting, but I read somewhere that law graduates with CLP are better than those without and are higher sought by law firms.

Should I go to private institutions like Taylor's or BAC instead? Does UM law school has a higher quality of education than those of private uni?
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Of course UM offers higher quality education than that of such private universities! UM is the best law school in Malaysia! It is ranked 151-200th in the world, UKM is ranked 201-250th in the world, whereas the other Malaysian law schools are unranked.

An accurate ranking list of top law schools can be found here: https://www.topuniversities.com/university-...w-legal-studies

Generally, law firms prefer law graduates with CLP only if they graduate from one of the top universities on the list I've posted. This means universities like the ANU, UniMelb, USyd, and UNSW from Australia and Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, UCL, and KCL from the UK. Otherwise, save your money and just do your law degree in UM.

I am now at a top-tier law firm because I graduated with first class honours from one of the Australian universities listed above, but there are plenty of UM graduates here as well.
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post May 22 2017, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(llbhons1 @ May 20 2017, 10:55 AM)
Of course UM offers higher quality education than that of such private universities! UM is the best law school in Malaysia! It is ranked 151-200th in the world, UKM is ranked 201-250th in the world, whereas the other Malaysian law schools are unranked.

An accurate ranking list of top law schools can be found here: https://www.topuniversities.com/university-...w-legal-studies

Generally, law firms prefer law graduates with CLP only if they graduate from one of the top universities on the list I've posted.  This means universities like the ANU, UniMelb, USyd, and UNSW from Australia and Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, UCL, and KCL from the UK.  Otherwise, save your money and just do your law degree in UM.

I am now at a top-tier law firm because I graduated with first class honours from one of the Australian universities listed above, but there are plenty of UM graduates here as well.
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but in taylor got chance to transfer to UK, how about uni of manchester or liverpool?? I'm aiming for these two
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post May 22 2017, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(cyh03176 @ May 9 2017, 02:15 PM)
it doesn't matter. your degree and your qualifications are just mere requirements for you to work. you attitude is the most important aspect.
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This.

QUOTE(Baboonation @ May 22 2017, 09:50 AM)
but in taylor got chance to transfer to UK, how about uni of manchester or liverpool?? I'm aiming for these two
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If that's the case, then these are very good options too. Tbh, the criteria as to the selection of law graduates by the employers are very subjective, and you don't necessarily have to be the top of your class just to be able to secure a chambering position with a top law firm (though you are essentially expected to at least obtain a certain competent level of academic achievement if you want to be considered by the better firms for hiring). I've friends who graduated from the two mentioned universities working (not chambering) with top tier firms in KL, and no, they were not first class achievers. Neither were they from the selected few publicly perceived top quality unis. At the end of the day, your work ethics and work quality are most important in the eyes of your employer.

This post has been edited by timo1003: May 22 2017, 02:42 PM
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post May 31 2017, 09:57 AM

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Does law degree expire within a certain time for clp purposes?
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post Jun 21 2017, 11:39 PM

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Hi guys, I need your opinions. I am thinking of working abroad, possibly Australia (Western Australia, although I can consider working under other states), in 20 years. Based on my financial status, I have narrow down to 2 options, which is; University of Malaya LLB (got called for interview and attended it) or University of London LLB (External). Which one should I choose? I can't get a clear answer based on my research. Hoping for some guidance by those who have been in the same situation as me.Thank you in advance.
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post Jul 6 2017, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(DalwinSingh1997 @ Jun 21 2017, 11:39 PM)
Hi guys, I need your opinions. I am thinking of working abroad, possibly Australia (Western Australia, although I can consider working under other states), in 20 years. Based on my financial status, I have narrow down to 2 options, which is; University of Malaya LLB (got called for interview and attended it) or University of London LLB (External). Which one should I choose? I can't get a clear answer based on my research. Hoping for some guidance by those who have been in the same situation as me.Thank you in advance.
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I am a Western Australian lawyer. Honestly, if you are trying to work as a lawyer in Australia, you should get a law degree from one of the Group of 8 ... and if I'm being brutal, just one from the top 4 law schools (ANU, Melbourne, USyd and UNSW). It is very hard to work in Australia as a lawyer with a degree earned locally.

Universiti Malaya is not globally recognised. The UoL program is supposedly recognised worldwide but is too common and is not prestigious because the entry requirements are so low. If you want to work abroad, please consider these options:

Australia
ANU
Melbourne
USyd
UNSW

UK
Oxford
Cambridge
LSE
UCL
KCL

These are the best law school options for a good career as a barrister and/or solicitor. All the best!

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post Jul 22 2017, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(llbhons1 @ Jul 6 2017, 10:34 PM)
I am a Western Australian lawyer.  Honestly, if you are trying to work as a lawyer in Australia, you should get a law degree from one of the Group of 8 ... and if I'm being brutal, just one from the top 4 law schools (ANU, Melbourne, USyd and UNSW).  It is very hard to work in Australia as a lawyer with a degree earned locally.

Universiti Malaya is not globally recognised.  The UoL program is supposedly recognised worldwide but is too common and is not prestigious because the entry requirements are so low.  If you want to work abroad, please consider these options:

Australia
ANU
Melbourne
USyd
UNSW

UK
Oxford
Cambridge
LSE
UCL
KCL

These are the best law school options for a good career as a barrister and/or solicitor.  All the best!
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This position is largely correct. Given the premises, if you are deciding between UoL and UM then UM will probably be a fine university to go to. Local Malaysian firms think well of it and the general quality (as a practising lawyer) is more consistent (and a bit better) than the UoL graduates who exist across the spectrum.

As for the above quoted universities, if you do not have the current opportunity, you may consider these in studying a masters. I've known several lawyers who have gone to UM/UoL and then on to OxBridge and the Trinity.
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post Aug 4 2017, 02:10 AM

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hi im just received offer to pursue my degree in law at uum.. is it a good deal?
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post Aug 6 2017, 04:41 PM

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Has anybody applied for UM's bachelor of jurisprudence? Got any reply on the application status thus far?
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post Aug 8 2017, 04:31 PM

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Has anybody applied for UM's bachelor of jurisprudence? Got any reply on the application status thus far?
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post Aug 19 2017, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(naufalabud @ Aug 4 2017, 02:10 AM)
hi im just received offer to pursue my degree in law at uum.. is it a good deal?
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If you intend on working in Malaysia, sure. It's a good deal because it's cheap. But make sure you do well in your law degree so that you can compete with those who graduated from good overseas unis and good local unis like UM and UKM.
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post Aug 19 2017, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(llbhons1 @ Aug 19 2017, 10:19 PM)
If you intend on working in Malaysia, sure.  It's a good deal because it's cheap.  But make sure you do well in your law degree so that you can compete with those who graduated from good overseas unis and good local unis like UM and UKM.
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ukm is good? I dont even put it on my upu list bcs some lecturers said that ukm students a bit...for um I dont like live in kl though im living in kl also. im intent to go for uia but they take their own foundation students only. but I heard that uum already got full recognition from board. so well is okay I guess😅
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QUOTE(alsree786 @ Apr 30 2013, 08:54 PM)
I don't think you should take any such certificate unless you're sure you want to practice in that area. It'll be a waste of time, effort and money. Both O&G and Shipping are niche.

Would be better to concentrate on your LLB and graduate with a good degree. Thereafter, join a good firm that does a wide range of work (or a specialised area if you're certain on your choices) and let them know that you're interested in doing shipping etc. If it is really what you think you want to do, then you may consider taking up relevant courses at that stage.
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Hey guys, I'm new to this forum. I'm currently studying LLB year 2 and we have 3 elective subjects to choose from which are Commercial Law, EU law and Family Law. Out of these 3 we have to pick 2 .
I'm not sure whether i will take clp or bar (bptc) after my degree as we all know bar is really expensive and it is not easy to secure a training contract to practise in the UK.
But they say even if there's a slight chance of me wanting to practise outside of Msia, I should take EU law( EU law is a compulsory subject to do bar)...
In fact, my real interest is family law. I wish to do major in family cases. On the other hand, commercial law seems very important even when I work in a corporate it requires my knowledge in it... I'm really having dilemma on which subject to give up...
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QUOTE(Etsk @ Oct 1 2017, 06:10 PM)
Hey guys, I'm new to this forum. I'm currently studying LLB year 2 and we have 3 elective subjects to choose from which are Commercial Law, EU law and Family Law. Out of these 3 we have to pick 2 .
I'm not sure whether i will take clp or bar (bptc) after my degree as we all know bar is really expensive and it is not easy to secure a training contract to practise in the UK.
But they say even if there's a slight chance of me wanting to practise outside of Msia, I should take EU law( EU law is a compulsory subject to do bar)...
In fact, my real interest is family law. I wish to do major in family cases. On the other hand, commercial law seems very important even when I work in a corporate it requires my knowledge in it... I'm really having dilemma on which subject to give up...
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I suggest you choose subject that you are interested in which are family law and commercial law. You can still decide whether to take EU law in year 3.
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QUOTE(Etsk @ Oct 1 2017, 10:10 AM)
Hey guys, I'm new to this forum. I'm currently studying LLB year 2 and we have 3 elective subjects to choose from which are Commercial Law, EU law and Family Law. Out of these 3 we have to pick 2 .
I'm not sure whether i will take clp or bar (bptc) after my degree as we all know bar is really expensive and it is not easy to secure a training contract to practise in the UK.
But they say even if there's a slight chance of me wanting to practise outside of Msia, I should take EU law( EU law is a compulsory subject to do bar)...
In fact, my real interest is family law. I wish to do major in family cases. On the other hand, commercial law seems very important even when I work in a corporate it requires my knowledge in it... I'm really having dilemma on which subject to give up...
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My advice, take EU and Comm Law. Comm law will help you with a general understanding on commercial matters including shopping terms etc. Family law you can still do it during year 3 or at BPTC. I did family option during BPTC as I was lazy and it was more or less a confirmed advocacy assessment. You will be able to manage it without the basics as BPTC will train your research skills.

Further, Family law there and family law here is slightly different. Btw, training contract is for solicitors.
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