Check out the new website for more information about courses and fees etc.
www.aimst.edu.my
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University AIMST University Unofficial LYN Thread, New life. New beat. New Campus.
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Well guys, welcome to the this LYN thread specially dedicated to AIMST University. "New life. New beat. New Campus" is the theme for the grand opening of the campus by our much respected Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Ahmad Badawi on the 17th of August 2008. AIMST University Campus is based in Sungai Petani, Kedah near the Bujang Valley. AIMST has certainly developed alot since the day i first step into the old campus situated in Aman Jaya 2 years ago. Currently we already have 3 batches of Medical Doctors working nationwide and many Biotechnologist who has graduated and working at big companies. Again, this thread is opened to provide information on the university to the unknown and also a place for students of AIMST to discuss about the university.
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yeah its the cheapest medical uni in m'sia.. does anyone have friends studying dere? cos i wanna noe more about my new campus.. hehe.. best if can list out the pros and cons of AIMST lorh.. peace...
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the campus so huge and beside the hospital.it's located in Sg.Petani (Utara).
erm...i don't know how to describe it to u la u can see the picture in their website but i only can tell u the campus is GREAT |
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i think still not verified by the gov or something was it LAN , thats why i didnt choose medical ...
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What is AIMST ? Full name pls
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Its Asian Institute of Medicine, Science and Technology.. hmm.. now de medical programme accreditted by LAN liao.. but in de progress of approval by MMC.. de new campus is really huge la.. but de old campus is just shop houses rite? any other opinions? feel free to poast it here.. especially if deres anyone who studies dere.. =D
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is only 1 km from my house,my cousin n my neighbour study there..
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serious?? u're ataying at sungai petani also?? wad are they taking now?? and wad do dey think of the college? is it good or bad? hehe.. sry to have ask you so many ques at one time.. but seriously need to noe dem b4 i go dere.. =.=
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My fren was from there but she just flew off to India to continue her medical course last month.
She said everythin was good there but she got a place in India, tht's y she's continuing in India. Of couse India wud b a better place |
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i have a friend studying there.She went for February intake. She say the place is okay. Now, she still in the old campus( shop houses) but she told me that just the student who study medical are in the new campus already coz the facilities are better compared to the old one.
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QUOTE(jaya_pc87 @ Apr 14 2006, 09:47 PM) i think still not verified by the gov or something was it LAN , thats why i didnt choose medical ... it has not been approved by LAN because that can only be done after the first batch graduated..so till then it will not be granted..edit btw that was 2 years ago but~ logically thinking, it is not likely that it is not going to get approval..it is a medical college "IN" malaysia...so its very unlikely for it to not be approved.. it is not a bad place for medical...they are actively recruiting capable lecturers as far i know.. This post has been edited by bph14: Apr 16 2006, 12:49 AM |
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QUOTE(csrulez @ Apr 15 2006, 10:38 AM) serious?? u're ataying at sungai petani also?? wad are they taking now?? and wad do dey think of the college? is it good or bad? hehe.. sry to have ask you so many ques at one time.. but seriously need to noe dem b4 i go dere.. =.= i stay at sp, but now i'm taking medic at russia. They also take medic there,my cousin now first year i think, and my neighbour too.I dont know anything bout that coll,but the current campus is shop lot,no idea bout the new one.But there's is quite number of student there, and u can get cheap rooms or house rented if u want, and to live in SP is not really heavy as the living cost consider low. Where are ya from? |
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Yup, it's the cheapest med and pharmacy college in Malaysia. But I checked and found out that their pharmacy programme isn't recognized by the pharmacy board of Malaysia. I hope you'll find out about whether the medical programme is or not before enrolling.
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QUOTE(chicks @ Apr 16 2006, 08:29 AM) i stay at sp, but now i'm taking medic at russia. They also take medic there,my cousin now first year i think, and my neighbour too. haha.. i'm actually frm Kuala Lumpur.. yeah.. cos my grandma stays dere.. so it will be more convenient if i study dere lorh.. so hows de medical course in russia? heard its a 6 year course rite? is it better if its compared to the AIMST? =DI dont know anything bout that coll,but the current campus is shop lot,no idea bout the new one.But there's is quite number of student there, and u can get cheap rooms or house rented if u want, and to live in SP is not really heavy as the living cost consider low. Where are ya from? QUOTE(misao @ Apr 16 2006, 03:21 PM) Yup, it's the cheapest med and pharmacy college in Malaysia. But I checked and found out that their pharmacy programme isn't recognized by the pharmacy board of Malaysia. I hope you'll find out about whether the medical programme is or not before enrolling. actually.. both de programmes are accredited by LAN.. but untill now.. MMC hasnt approve deir medical courses yet cos de 1st batch of medical students havent graduate yet.. so i tink around august we will noe.. but for now.. i;m taking de risk.. but yeah.. most unlikely it will be rejected by MMC la.. bcos frm wad i heard.. de programme dere is quite good and morever.. yeah.. its a medicine programme IN malaysia.. hehe |
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programme in my academy is consider good, just that the life here is a bit tough. People always fantasy that study in europe must be great, but study in russia is no different than go to jail
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@chicks
u're in MMA in moscow? I've few friends studying over there but heard from them that life is great. So what makes u say that studying in russia is like going to jail? |
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anymore opinions on AIMST before i leave for my foundation dis sunday?? come come comee....
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hahaha.. u will be there as wel???? are you taking foundation in science or wad? lol~
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mmc still not recognise wat...dat y i din plan to go there...go russia better la..cheapest.....MMA second best in da world oso....
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haha.. see ya there Guardian!!! actually russia not dat bad lah.. but deir degree dere is 6 years.. AIMST is 5 yers.. so dun take up much time lorh.. just called MMC and dey say dey will do the evaluation on May 2006.. but most probably it will be recognise.. moreover even if its not recognised after Foundation can opt for russia or Manipal also mah.. lol~
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QUOTE(kenlui @ Apr 17 2006, 02:22 PM) @chicks actually is the people here, they kinda racism or can say they dont like foreigners.u're in MMA in moscow? I've few friends studying over there but heard from them that life is great. So what makes u say that studying in russia is like going to jail? I'm in NNSMA, not moscow. I'm not sure bout moscow,but for a "not white" to walk at street,you're in a threat of being beaten up anytime. I dont know how the russian thinks,but is just their way they are. |
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Oh my god.. really det scary? meaning cant really go out anytime you like? i remember i heard frm de guy det organise the medicine course in russia said det russian's are very friendly.. in fact.. dey can let you stay in deir hse withoyt any obligation if you need a home.. meaning dets not true?
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Haha I am from AIMST too !!!!
Nice to Meet You . I am from July batch 2005 ..... Meet me at C3 ! Cya |
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AIMST hor...
Just about 5 KM from my house... Many many many of my friends study foundation there... But i m going to UTM soon... |
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aimst a lot dota player.. !!aaahahah
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wahahahah.. i'm staying at de new semeling campus.. and hey.. i;m at D2... April 2006 batch.. Foundation in science.. hahaha..
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so.. how is AIMST? share to us about the lecturer, students, system, compertative or not?, facilities, they do things professional or not?
Based on photographs, their new campus is very impresive... I dont study in AIMST. I dont know much about them..but they something thing i dont really favor them. If you dont mind i voice up 2: 1) Their MBBS intake system is a closed system, that means, they give their foundation student the priority(instead or merits). That doesnt promote competitiveness and fairness and sounds like govt university 2) Some of their top MBBS profesor is no longer in their staff list. I see some lecturer from AIIMS last year but not this year. (BTW, AIIMS is the best medical school in India). There is only one lecturer did his post-graduate in AIIMS. The remaining lecturer is from DR MGR medical university/madras etc.. which is not that as good. That is a big question mark to me... because when top staff leave... there is possibility that something wrong with the management. ... i might be wrong tho... This post has been edited by slashlink: Jun 21 2006, 09:03 PM |
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QUOTE(csrulez @ Apr 14 2006, 12:22 AM) Hey there.. i'm enrolling into the Foundation in science ( pre-med) on de 24th of April 2006.. not very sure on de condition of the campus.. dets y i need some opinions and experiences.. anyone with frens or relatives frm AIMST? mind to share deir experiences? and of cos i wanna noe more about deir medical programmes dere.. its one of de cheapest medical uni in m'sia... hehe... heard that majority of the students are indian. havent seen the campus yet but i know it is very big. i have friends working there. |
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QUOTE(slashlink @ Jun 21 2006, 08:43 PM) so.. how is AIMST? share to us about the lecturer, students, system, compertative or not?, facilities, they do things professional or not? 1. LMAO, like the govt university really promote fairness with the obvious double standard system. Even 4.0 STPM students cant get into it.Based on photographs, their new campus is very impresive... I dont study in AIMST. I dont know much about them..but they something thing i dont really favor them. If you dont mind i voice up 2: 1) Their MBBS intake system is a closed system, that means, they give their foundation student the priority(instead or merits). That doesnt promote competitiveness and fairness and sounds like govt university 2) Some of their top MBBS profesor is no longer in their staff list. I see some lecturer from AIIMS last year but not this year. (BTW, AIIMS is the best medical school in India). There is only one lecturer did his post-graduate in AIIMS. The remaining lecturer is from DR MGR medical university/madras etc.. which is not that as good. That is a big question mark to me... because when top staff leave... there is possibility that something wrong with the management. ... i might be wrong tho... 2. Get your MBBS, do your housemanship, get the specialist certificate from recognised medical bodies, you're as good as anyone else if not better. I heard AIMST is one of the few medical schools in malaysia that offers cadavars as anatomical teaching material. |
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hi.just wanna noe..Is it difficult for chinese to get into AIMST medical degree programme with STPM?I got 3.75.
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could be tough even with 4.0 cos the priority are the foundation students..... i heard from them that many STPM student took foundation lol
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I have a relative there, so I'm just typing on what I've heard and know. It may not be 100% accurate.
1)The pre-med is very hard and restrictive. While its sturctured like SAM (for those wanting to get into medcine), it does not have the recognition of SAM. Other than AIMST kedah, only some Indian uni's recognise it, with Salem being (I think) one of them. 2)The drop out rate can be quite high. 3)The people there aren't the cleanest people around, which he describes as "shocking" for a medical environment. 4)Chinese food and culture in general is an endangered species there. Mostly Indians, with Indian food. (Personal note: I have nothing against any type of edible food, but at the end of the day, we still want to stick to familar dishes) 5)He feels the quality of teaching there "questionable". I also happen to know the MMA (Malaysian Medical Association) has also raised concerns about the standard of graduates and the course in general. Thats all I can say. |
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I also feel like going there....but i haven't enrol yet...so when is the latest should i apply for the foundation course? coz aimst will be my last option as i've applied for many scholarships already....
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QUOTE(bidfordun @ Mar 23 2007, 08:15 PM) got money can go gif them some lo i also give some liao only they told me cannot confirm place..... just stop short of telling that person that i can pay up the entire fees immediately if they can guarantee that place |
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QUOTE(chicks @ Apr 22 2006, 08:11 AM) actually is the people here, they kinda racism or can say they dont like foreigners. which year u in?? i'm also from NNSMA...I'm in NNSMA, not moscow. I'm not sure bout moscow,but for a "not white" to walk at street,you're in a threat of being beaten up anytime. I dont know how the russian thinks,but is just their way they are. |
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DARKMAGE...I HAVE friend with 2a's and 2b's doing medical degree directly after stpm!! and a friend with 1'a's and 3b;s doing pre-med to qualify for the degree!!..
conclusion..AIMST MACAM2 RAGAM!! |
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this thread highlights a major problem with medical schol entry process in theis country..........ie the lack of consistent criteria being applied across the kleidoscope of medical training options for malaysians.........from ipta, to private med schools to cheap foreign ones in russia and indonesia and to prohibitively expensive world class ones in the first world...........
unlike most other countries, where selection is stringent and only the best of the youth are selected, there are lots of "backdoor" opportunities here............. as long as you have money, and a willingness to venture to unknown destinations, all for the sake of having a dr in front of you name, and potentially lots of money...........one can get into a medical school somewhere, even with mediocre matriculation results......... this "not necessary selecting the best" phenomena occur across all the sectors, ipta included.........an inevitable outcome when other agendas come into play, other than the search for brightest and altruistic of youths............. hence this discussion..........straight As students unsure of their worth, and others with lesser results getting in instead........... |
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Mar 26 2007, 03:21 PM) this thread highlights a major problem with medical schol entry process in theis country..........ie the lack of consistent criteria being applied across the kleidoscope of medical training options for malaysians.........from ipta, to private med schools to cheap foreign ones in russia and indonesia and to prohibitively expensive world class ones in the first world........... uhh..who said so?..good results not enough money oso lead a lot of people end up studying in russia and etc!!unlike most other countries, where selection is stringent and only the best of the youth are selected, there are lots of "backdoor" opportunities here............. as long as you have money, and a willingness to venture to unknown destinations, all for the sake of having a dr in front of you name, and potentially lots of money...........one can get into a medical school somewhere, even with mediocre matriculation results......... this "not necessary selecting the best" phenomena occur across all the sectors, ipta included.........an inevitable outcome when other agendas come into play, other than the search for brightest and altruistic of youths............. hence this discussion..........straight As students unsure of their worth, and others with lesser results getting in instead........... scoring 2a's 2b's is not bad at all!!..stop looking down upon otherslaa!! great distinction in examination doesnt gurantee a good doctor!! and about the other tread...(min require for PRE-MED IS 4B'S AND NOT FOR MEDICAL DEGREE)..ITS REALLY UP TO one to choose his career pathway!!... u just be happy for them and stop critisizing about others!! |
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QUOTE(sujend @ Mar 26 2007, 03:35 PM) uhh..who said so?..good results not enough money oso lead a lot of people end up studying in russia and etc!! you failed to get my point.............i am not saying 2a2b is bad, just that there is no consistency in selection process............so you have flat 4 students not getting in say oz med schools, because of the intense competition, but a 3.0 will qualify to get into russia..............scoring 2a's 2b's is not bad at all!!..stop looking down upon otherslaa!! great distinction in examination doesnt gurantee a good doctor!! and about the other tread...(min require for PRE-MED IS 4B'S AND NOT FOR MEDICAL DEGREE)..ITS REALLY UP TO one to choose his career pathway!!... u just be happy for them and stop critisizing about others!! the whole med education thing is POORLY mamaged in malaysia.............. |
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not medical ecuation is poorly managed!!
the quata system+bumi concept+ exam oriented sys = source of all probs seriously so many friends of mine..who are rich are studying medic in us and aus..and not so rich are in russia since its the cheapest option!! most of them in russia are with 11a's and 12a's in spm...doin their pre-med there!! |
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that is my point lah............why must "rich" ones go to first world, and poor ones go to 3rd world?
any sensible country will make sure the right candidates are selected, based on predetermined consistent set of criteria, and NOT on whether you can afford it........... |
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i got friend got CGPA 3.0 going to ireland study med, 6 yrs cource...
ireland dublin uni can accept student with 3.0(need to study 6 yrs) 3.5 above is 5 yrs... it's depend on how long u need to study. in russia, no matter u finish pre med or stpm, u need to study back bio, chem, and bio from the 1st years. that what happen in here. by the way, i think after 5-6 yrs, the doc in m'sia majority is grad from india n russia... becz jpa and mara keep sending student there... i don't know why got SOMEONE keep look down russia and india, these country got their own good, like my prof, his is not 40 yet. but he get a phd in doc from europe country, he do lot of research, and work for the WHO, at the same time is teaching us pathology, the most basic and important of the medicine... |
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QUOTE(iori @ Mar 26 2007, 04:31 PM) i got friend got CGPA 3.0 going to ireland study med, 6 yrs cource... lori, if this is the level of english we can expect from graduates from russia, i worry for the future of health care in malaysia............ireland dublin uni can accept student with 3.0(need to study 6 yrs) 3.5 above is 5 yrs... it's depend on how long u need to study. in russia, no matter u finish pre med or stpm, u need to study back bio, chem, and bio from the 1st years. that what happen in here. by the way, i think after 5-6 yrs, the doc in m'sia majority is grad from india n russia... becz jpa and mara keep sending student there... i don't know why got SOMEONE keep look down russia and india, these country got their own good, like my prof, his is not 40 yet. but he get a phd in doc from europe country, he do lot of research, and work for the WHO, at the same time is teaching us pathology, the most basic and important of the medicine... what did you get for spm english and 1119? you have just highlighted one of the the basic problems with med education in malaysia, people with poor results being accepted.................while those with flat 4's worry about getting a place................. actually you are right, there are good med schools there, just that many wrong candidates get in............. |
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wat u aspect all the lyn member come in the forum to type te correct vocab and all the tense?? ok la... nex tim i'l try to improve a bit to let som SMART guy lik u 2 understand....
u need to know in local uni have been set the % btw the races students. plus this 2 years got many chinese come out from matrik, all cgpa 4.0flat. aiya, every year also the same stories la... no ned to talk about it again...boring... for the russian uni, if u not pass d exam, they still kick u out... got some case before... what ever u want to tell, plz continue... i think i got not thing to tell... end of the story... bye... p/s : i know my eng sucx, but i will try to improved it. u need to know that is very hard for the student from a malay school...(not all) and if u realy scare about the future m'sia health care, faster run away from m'sia...lol...(just an opinion, a lot of my fren wish to run out... to aus, nz...) |
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here all ppl wan take medic ah?
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no i do not expect the general lyn forumers to be perfect in english........
however, i expect anyone who gets into medicine, to have a minimum standard of ability, languages included, in this case english. in fact, based on the dumbing down of spm, and the fact some 4000 gets straight a's i think nobody who gets less than a's in the core subjects (sciences, math, english)(some 8000 of them) should even think of doing medicine.............there are enough from that cohort who are interested and able to do medicine.............. and no med school should take them in............but the reality is, many foreign med schools from the 3rd world, "sells" places to the highest bidder, and as long as you can get a few credits and pay the fees, they are happy to take you in................ that is my problem..............not saying that the med schools in russia/indonesia/india are no good, but the fact that they compromise on their intake criteria to take in people for money...............tells something about the commercialisation of education.......... don't get me wrong, save for a few countries, and a few well known universities, all universities are also selling education............the difference is how selection takes place................in the quality of students taken in, lies the quality of the school............. |
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luckily i'm not one of them who buy the seat... and my roommate got 3a 1b in stpm...bro, u need to know that now enter to russia medic uni need the letter of approve(soli, i don't know wat's that name...) from moe, m'sia...
i know that many of straight A can't get into the med school... but the main prob is local uni didn't have enough of place, this stories keep repeating every yrs and the answer stil the same... we can't do any thing than that, not enough hospital, lec, uni seats.... the other ways to study med are going to IMU, PMC, overseas and etc. but the main prob is $$... |
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Mar 26 2007, 11:54 PM
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wah...so many ppl wan take medic..maybe we should start a thread on med schools? Just a tot.Cheers.
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heylo guys! i'm back.. haha.. after so long.. finished my foundation in science in april.. btw i was from foundation in science April 06/07 batch.. just gotten my final results.. 4As for the 4 science subjects and a B+ for my english.. hahaa.. total marks was 237 and grades for 3 best science subject was AAA.. Min requirement for Foundation students to enter medicine is that he/she must have the total mark of 215 and his/her grades must be ABB.. i will be enrolling in 2008 Jan MBBS intake this September.. cos gonna undergo the 3 months pre-MBBS programme 1st.. so any of you guys here are planning to come over to AIMST? i might be able to help to answer a question or two since i've been studying there for a year already.. will be continueing my 5 years MBBS over there too.. hehe.. =D
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May 20 2007, 02:17 AM
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get an offer letter for AIMST but didnt layan it. feel that the fees kinda exp.
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offer letter for wad programme?
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May 21 2007, 02:09 AM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Mar 26 2007, 08:26 PM) but the reality is, many foreign med schools from the 3rd world, "sells" places to the highest bidder, and as long as you can get a few credits and pay the fees, they are happy to take you in................ that is my problem..............not saying that the med schools in russia/indonesia/india are no good, but the fact that they compromise on their intake criteria to take in people for money...............tells something about the commercialisation of education.......... don't get me wrong, save for a few countries, and a few well known universities, all universities are also selling education............the difference is how selection takes place................in the quality of students taken in, lies the quality of the school............. |
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May 21 2007, 12:03 PM
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May 22 2007, 12:03 PM
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haih..i kena rejected by aimst for this intake.when is the next intake for mbbs in aimst ar?
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QUOTE(legstrong @ May 21 2007, 02:09 AM) I bet you've never try applying for med ? There's a reason some medical schools are not recognised in malaysia. I believe all med schools studies the same thing. It's just where you studied it i am not sure what you are trying to say...............??recognition of med schools in malaysia is a political decision, and not based on any consistent policy............... as for studying the same thing, as far as raw knowledge in the pre-clinical sciences, yes, you will all study the same things...............but when it comes to clinical years, the practices can vary widely in different countries............and you will learn the kind of practice where you are trained............. and there is wide difference in the calibre of the medical students being admitted........... |
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May 23 2007, 05:08 AM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 22 2007, 09:29 PM) i am not sure what you are trying to say...............?? If you've applied for med programme, you'll know it's not easy in every part of the world.Recognition in of medical schools are done by WHO under the country's recommendation,not politically. recognition of med schools in malaysia is a political decision, and not based on any consistent policy............... as for studying the same thing, as far as raw knowledge in the pre-clinical sciences, yes, you will all study the same things...............but when it comes to clinical years, the practices can vary widely in different countries............and you will learn the kind of practice where you are trained............. and there is wide difference in the calibre of the medical students being admitted........... I believe in every part of the world, during clinical phase, some scenarios are emphasized more, but it comes back to the same thing. They can't pass you when you fail in your exams. |
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QUOTE(legstrong @ May 23 2007, 05:08 AM) If you've applied for med programme, you'll know it's not easy in every part of the world.Recognition in of medical schools are done by WHO under the country's recommendation,not politically. wrong on all 4 accounts..........I believe in every part of the world, during clinical phase, some scenarios are emphasized more, but it comes back to the same thing. They can't pass you when you fail in your exams. there are med schools which will take people in with very mediocre results, as long as you can pay the capitation and tuition fees.............. who do NOT "recognise" medical schools, but they register them, and compile them into a list.........that is all............. "recognition" is an act by a sovereign nation, to register graduates with the "recognised" degrees to allow them rights to practice medicine............nothing to do AT ALL with who or un........... which med schools gets recognised then may depend on a set of criteria, or just whatever the political expediency of the time............most advanced countries control recognition to safeguard the standard of health care in that country........... malaysia tend to recognise med schools the gov wants to send their scholarship students to............and not those where politically it does not want............so hence Uni of Bagdad is recognised (yes!) but NOT the Taiwan med schools............ and the usa do NOT recognise ANY medical schools out of the us and canada (not even uk and europe), all will need to sit and pass the qualifying test (umsle) to be able to register to practise............ singapore do NOT recognise any of malaysia's med schools till recently, where they decided to recognise 2, um and ukm.........and they do NOT recognise all oz med schools, only the main ones........... as to clinical differences, there are significant differences in how medicine is practised in different countries.................if you are a med student now, you may not know as you are only exposed to one system, but you will when you go practise in another country................. finally............yes, there are med schools where you can fail, and after paying the required monies, or attend the "special" tutorials, and get the "trial" exam papers...............voila...........you passed............. fyi............. This post has been edited by limeuu: May 23 2007, 06:06 PM |
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how about other med school? there's not only 1 private med school right?
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QUOTE(leone5680 @ May 24 2007, 03:16 PM) very long story..... you know they got foundation intakes right? the batch which just finish are taught by different lecturer from the batch finishing in July this year..... the current batch lecturer lower the standard alot until a huge amount of them get 4.00 so now there is not enough places for their July foundation students......we as outsiders even no more chance lo unless you got cable |
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QUOTE(klifex @ May 24 2007, 10:46 PM) i wonder how many other educational establishment will recognised the un-benchmarked in house programme like this..............especially when they can "adjust" the marking at their will and fancy...............that is the main problem with these programmes, and this includes the matrik programme.............completely unbenchmarked internationally........ |
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oohh...now i understand marn.thanks for the clarification.in a perfect world,this would certainly not happen.But then again , this is NOT a perfect world.
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hahaa.. guys.. i'm actually one of the student dat will be entering the january 2008 MBBS intake.. will be enrolling into the pre-MBBS this Sept.. i was from the April batch foundation.. just gotten my results.. got an A+.. 2 As.. 1A- and a B+.. actually what do u mean by lecturers screwing up? not to say all.. but i feel some of our lecturers was gd.. hahaa..FYI only 5% of the foundation in April batch get 3.8 and above.. and out of that.. less than 5 ppl get CGPA 4.0.. hahaa.. i guess i've got the better info? and leone.. if u haven been accepted for the Jan 2008 intake.. the next intake will be in June 2008.. =)
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But you can always go to other private medical college if u want to get an early admission..
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yea...Perak medical college, IMU, Manipal,Penang MEd College...u got money...u can apply for it...
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with Monash, UCSI, Cyberjaya, Allianz
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QUOTE(csrulez @ May 28 2007, 07:32 PM) hahaa.. guys.. i'm actually one of the student dat will be entering the january 2008 MBBS intake.. will be enrolling into the pre-MBBS this Sept.. i was from the April batch foundation.. just gotten my results.. got an A+.. 2 As.. 1A- and a B+.. actually what do u mean by lecturers screwing up? not to say all.. but i feel some of our lecturers was gd.. hahaa..FYI only 5% of the foundation in April batch get 3.8 and above.. and out of that.. less than 5 ppl get CGPA 4.0.. hahaa.. i guess i've got the better info? and leone.. if u haven been accepted for the Jan 2008 intake.. the next intake will be in June 2008.. =) then you probably dunno anyone in there..... i only know that they should have allocated nicely so that all 3 batches get their places but then the places were fill up even before the third batch of foundation students finish their study.....now they are force to go elsewhereQUOTE(wgy589 @ May 31 2007, 02:27 PM) cyberjaya? what school is that? got pharmacy? |
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dunno much abt it but heard many frens grad frm there in biotech COMPLAIN kao kao.....
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Hi, I've been accepted into AIMST for the BDS degree...theres not very much choice in terms of universities in Malaysia for us who want to become dentists...sigh..I'm from kl, and so have to go all the way to Kedah pulak...
Is the accommodation safe? The website says that it consists of double story link houses near the campus...How is it like? Which is the best type of accommodation? 4 ppl per room...3 ppl...so on...which is the best value for money? (Sometimes 4 ppl a room could be absolutely awful, so paying 100 more a month may be far better.) How to study? What do they provide (furnishings etc) in the rooms? Can we put a microwave in...or make breakfast...kettle...at any rate something to heat water with...the website says cannot cook... And yeah, the food...Indian food mostly? I wouldn't mind...but sometimes I crave Chinese.... What is the student ratio like in terms of races? Chinese, Malay, Indians, International? Where can we buy the books we need for our studies? Can we survive on lecture notes and the library? How is the library? Books expensive! Can buy from seniors ah... When will the first batch of medic and dental students graduate? I guess when that happens the government will start recognizing the degree huh...what year did the first batch of dental students begin their studies? PTPN loan...is it guaranteed? Or try and get some other way to pay...any other way...How about scholarships? If you do well can you get a scholarship once you've started the course? Oooooo...thank you thank you everybody who answers This post has been edited by Tezuka87: Jun 12 2007, 01:20 PM |
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Alright tezuka87.. let me answer ur questions.. haha.. i was an ex foundation student there and will be back for my MBBS degree soon on Sept 17 ( currenlty holidaying now XD) and i'm from KL too! Well, i guess u really need time to adapt urself in kedah if you're "migrating' to kedah.. haha.. nice to meet you anyway..
okay.. lets see.. Accomodation is safe.. dun wry.. there are securities standing by at the entrance of the campus 24/7.. Well, currently there are no more double storey link hostels as they hav just moved into the main campus in Semeling.. its sumthing like a 5 storey apartment now.. with 3 bedrooms in each house.. Hmm.. i used to stayed in de 4 person room and it was really an unforgetable experience.. to me i feel having more ppl in the house makes my live more colourful la.. hahaa.. well, they provide a study table, bed and a cabinet for each hosteller, laundry services provided.. if i'm not mistaken.. 5kg per week FOC.. Microwave will be provided in the pantry.. kettle yes, you have to bring your own.. Erm.. cooking will not be a prob.. just that you cant use a stove.. maybe ricecookers? or slowcookers? -- Basically for the foods.. erm.. i have to say.. terrible.. haha! mayb i'm still not getting used to it yet after a year of staying there.. breakfast lunch and dinner will be provided at the cafeteria.. and normally they have 2 sections.. the chinese food and the indian food section.. and during night time.. around 8pm to 1am.. mamak stalls will be opened in the cafe for students if they're craving for suppers.. -- Hmm.. the ratio will be like 70% indians (MIC Uni) , 27% Chinese, 2% Malays and 1% international students.. the local student comes from all over malaysia including sabah and s'wak.. frm wad i see.. most of your seniors in BDS are from sabah and sarawak la.. and majority are gals.. haha.. --- Normally there are book fairs once in a while if you wanna get extra reading material.. and most of the students actually relies on the powerpoint notes given out during lectures.. erm.. from wad i experienced.. you shud be a able to get an A- if you've studied all de notes provided.. to get an A+.. well.. go to the library for extra info.. the new library is HUGE.. 3 storeys.. and nice architectural design.. however majorities of the books are catered for the medical students.. maybe part of it for the dental students.. and.. hmm.. buying books from seniors? i guess its not possible for now.. cos the seniors are at their 3rd and 2nd year only.. so i guess they still need the books.. =) --- Okay.. for MBBS ( medical).. they have currently taken in about 13 batches.. i'm the 13th.. hahaa... 1st batch will be graduating really soon by end of this year.. dey will be posted to hospitals nationwide for their housemen training.. Well, for BDS ( Dental).. Currenlt there are only 3 batches.. you're the 3rd.. meaning that the 1st batch have just gotten into their 3rd year.. so for them to graduate.. i guess there's 3 more years to go.. --- PTPTN.. not guranteed you will be getting the full amount.. but you will get it for sure.. have to try applying every year tho.. Ermm.. no scholarship for health related courses.. there are only book prizes and dean list for those top students.. -- I hope those info above will help you abit.. if you need more info bout the uni you can actually add me up at msn : csrulez2004@hotmail.com. Anyway its nice to hear that you are coming AIMST for you degree.. cos most KL-ians prefer other places instead of Kedah.. All de best to you and hope to get to know you man! Cheers. =) |
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Thanks very much csrulez!!
I'll be going to AIMST in September too, 3rd September...So glad to meet you! Qing duo duo zi jiao! No stove...Well, maybe they're afraid we'll burn the place down. Got microwave then it's ok...can cook lots of things in microwaves if you know how. There! Dental student cum microwave chef coming to kedah now! (Oxymoron...never mind, I'll cut down the sugar, and brush my teeth and floss.) I guess Kedah will be kind of different-quieter maybe than kl...rice bowl of Malaysia, lovely verdant green paddy fields...clean air...not too bad. It's a good experience. AIMST campus looks really cool on the website. Thanks so much..Hope to meet you at AIMST! AIMST is the cheapest place to do dentistry, especially since i didn't get dentistry for local uni This post has been edited by Tezuka87: Jun 20 2007, 03:26 PM |
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No probs.. Well, i'm supposed to promote AIMST cause not many people actually heard of that uni before..
Yeah, i will say that it's a perfect place for studying cause there're not much entertainment out there.. we normally travel to Penang which is like an hour journey from SP once in a while for movies and nice food.. hahaaa.. alright! i have a few frens doing BDS too.. hope to meet you there! but how do i actually recognize u? haha.. i will say that it might be one of the best dental school in m'sia cause they're actuallyw working on a Dental Hospital and it seems that we have the most dental chairs among the dental faculties in M'sia.. Ok! all de best to you future dentist! =) |
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Do they pay you? Hmm, I guess I wudn't have heard of AIMST if didn't want to pursue dentistry! Well, there's a rumour going around that AIMST isn't too good...When I told my friends I'll be going there they seem to think it'l be a second class degree or something. Maybe they're just jealous
I WAS wondering if I could watch movies... I'l be wearing sunglasses, and I'l be reading a book entitled "Idiots guide to microwave cooking". I heard it's the first dental hospital in South East Asia...or Asia...Maybe...It'l be opening this year, right? Clinical studies begin in third year, so they need some guinea pigs I suppose! Erm, I know I asked an awful lot already...thanks a bunch csrulez, I was just wondering if I would need a laptop or the is the computer lab enough? Thanks lots thanks lots! All the best to you future Dr. csrulez MBBS (AIMST). This post has been edited by Tezuka87: Jun 21 2007, 04:45 PM |
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Yeah, I'm one of the AIMST's ambassador. Haha! Just kidding man.. I noe its a lame joke.. =.=
okay, lets get serious. Well, i've heard rumours as well. I won't say that AIMST is bad but if i would to rate it, it's only a moderate university. probably because AIMST is still a very new university. Only established for 5 years only if i'm not mistaken. You know.. Universities are like babies too, they need time to grow and to get matured. However, I had this feeling that it will be as popular as IMU in the next few years to come. Thanks! we will promote AIMST to the KL-ians together then! X] Good questions. Movies huh? Theres a GSC cineplex situated in Central Square, SP town, which is like a 20 mins journey from our main campus in Semeling. But just to let you know in advance, you wouldn't be too happy with its condition. Well, if i compared it to One Utama's GSC, I would say that it is 10 times worst. Haha. HOWEVER, there's an option for movies if you're willing to spend some money and time. Gurney Plaza Penang, also GSC, but so much more better than our SP's GSC. Haha. FYI we do travel to Penang in gang once or twice a month, really can't stand the life in SP sometimes. Haha. It's not lame la. Alright, i'll hunt you out then. Haha. Yeah, i think so. but i guess it won't be opened so soon cause i heard that the dental students are temporarily sharing the medical complex with the medical students now. yup! guinea pigs, haha.. you guys will be seeing cadavers during your 1st and 2nd year for anatomy classes too. hope you're not easily freaked out by dead bodies. X] Okay. Laptop, RECOMMENDED to get one because theres quite a number of assignments and projects to follow up during your studies. At the same time you can get extra powerpoint notes from you lecturers during the exam season. I will say that the computer lab in the old campus really bad. Slow broadbands, alltime fullhouse, lack of printers... Not sure about the new one tho, i've seen them setting up some high performance computers in the new campus. and yeah! they say they will be working on a WIFI too. so, lets just pray for it. =) Alright! thanks girl! hahaa.. Dr. Tezuka BDS (Mal) Ps. Normally they will place "Malaysia" instead of the name of the university in the bracket next to your degree. And my real name is Ng Chong Sian, Shaun. Nice to meet you. |
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Nice to meet you too! Dr. Shaun Ng MBBS (Mal)
So cs stands for your name...not counterstrike... erm Yeah, 5 years IS young...AIMST has a long way to go! IMU is already nearly 15 years old, so cannot compare. After all, IMU only received University status 6 years after it was established. Well, with the availability of cadavers, the new campus, the new dental hospital and so on...I must say AIMST has plenty of potential! Wow, watching a movie will be an OCCASION like dat. No wonder they say living in small towns is cheap. Too troublesome to go out and watch movies and spend money...maybe thats good, hehe...Still, glad there are some options open for I-miss-KL-and-life days...Thanks! Ok. That's funner. I won't give you my name, but it sounds like tezuka (1st hint), and my surname starts with C (2nd hint). There. Good luck. :evil: Erm, actually got a bit of a phobia of revealing too much personal stuff on the net...haih, girls gotta be careful. Hope you understand. The tuition fees are so high I can't afford to freak! Haaha...yeah, most people don't think dentists have to study cadavers...I didn't think I needed to either at first. AIMST gets them sourced from India, I suppose. Hope I get a nice not-too-rotten cadaver who died of natural causes and not some horrible disease! Just hoping. Well, it's good to have this opportunity. Laptops are not cheap...see if I can survive without one during first year, then maybe get one later, if there's WIFI it'll be really convenient...So yep, I'l pray for that! Thanks a lot Shaun! See you at AIMST! |
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hey there tezuka and csrulez..
I think csrulez has pretty said all there is to say about studying in aimst.. Well, I'm a 2nd year dental student, and when you come in tezuka, hopefully, i'll be in my third year! Our finals are a few days' time..and ohmigod, it's 7am bedtime for me everyday. But if you have a better studying plan, then maybe you can work around that. Just wanted to let you know that you can contact me if you want to know more about dentistry in aimst. or you can even visit my blog! (www.jayelleenelial.com). you can click on the category 'dentistry' to see what we get up to during simulation lab practicals and dental technology lab practicals. In your first year, you won't be doing alot of dentistry related subjects. It's very similiar to first year medical students.. What you learn in dentistry in your first year,... yeah, there's a subject called Dentistry.. it's more towards the history of dentistry. Like an introduction. history of toothbrushes was a cute topic... haha. Alot of public health stuff(but i think there's a subject on public health in 3/4/5th year. not sure.. In year 2, you suddenly realise, WTTFF..classes until 6pm? from 8.30am? But usually it's 9.30am until 5pm lah, if you have practicals. It's fun really. One of the more exciting parts is having to collect teeth from dental clinics in your hometown and bringing it back to uni. It will then be incorporated into plaster models for us to practice on. We attach the plaster models into a simulator(we call our simulators affectionately, "Ah Sim!") and carry out dental procedures. So far we've learned how to do all the composite restorations and amalgam restorations. Scaling and stuff, extraction etc..not in the second year though. The syllabus differ from Australia, not sure about singapore though. But it should be the same as UM. almost lah. Since the syllabus is taken from UM, University of Hong Kong(as our dean was previously the dean there) and Bristol University. In our third year, which will start in Sept 07.. we will start having patients at the new dental hospital. But sigh, AIMST can be quite tardy with their promises. So we'll just have to play by ear, and we're used to that already. But yeah, definitely having patients because our dean is/was(not sure) the acting vice chancellor when the previous vice chancellor resigned. so he had alot of say. After he became acting vice chancellor, the move to the new campus was very swift and efficient. Basically, by the end of 2nd year, you can understand more dental jargons At the end of 1st year, you might still be pretty happy that you're a dental student in this great big world of dentistry, but you won't know alot ..the most also probably how to identity teeth according to the various systems..etc. The library is very functional because all the books you'll ever need can be found there. and if you're not too well to do, just photostat the books to keep it with you permanently.;P At least I do that for some of the books that are too expensive. One dental book cost RM700!! we rolled our eyes and just went to the library and photostated it. About life in SP, well one word: get a car. Second word: get a laptop. third : stay out of campus if you want to have an internet connection(of course have to go kau tim yourself with streamyx registration and stuff). with a car, you don't have to face those Indian food day in day out. If you want to lose weight, good for you lah;) But there're chinese restaurants in the area as well! Laptop because you will be so so so bored. and most of your lectures come in the form of powerpoint. So even if it might be expensive to have a laptop...it will be of use to you. but for first year dental students, maybe it's a good idea to stay on campus first to have a feel of campus life and it'll be more convenient for you as well:) Hope that helped. if there's anything else, just email me at jolenelai@gmail.com Sorry, i talked too much..;P |
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BTW i go back regularly to SP...altough i dont study at AIMST...the chinese seafood in Semeling is awesome and very cheap!!!worth it!!!
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Jun 26 2007, 12:24 PM
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Hi jayelleenelial senior! (may I call you jay, pleeese!!
Hmmm, two new friends before I even set foot in AIMST...lowyat rocks! QUOTE(jayelleenelial) What you learn in dentistry in your first year,... yeah, there's a subject called Dentistry.. it's more towards the history of dentistry. Like an introduction. history of toothbrushes was a cute topic... haha. Alot of public health stuff(but i think there's a subject on public health in 3/4/5th year. not sure.. History of toothbrushes...lol! After dat I shall never look at my toothbrush the same way again...QUOTE(jayelleenelial) In year 2, you suddenly realise, WTTFF..classes until 6pm? from 8.30am? wah...I tot three periods straight of maths T during form six was bad...But usually it's 9.30am until 5pm lah, if you have practicals. QUOTE(jayelleenelial) One of the more exciting parts is having to collect teeth from dental clinics in your hometown and bringing it back to uni. REAL TEETH???? QUOTE(jay) It will then be incorporated into plaster models for us to practice on. We attach the plaster models into a simulator(we call our simulators affectionately, "Ah Sim!") Hahhaa! QUOTE(jay) In our third year, which will start in Sept 07.. we will start having patients at the new dental hospital. But yeah, definitely having patients because our dean is/was(not sure) the acting vice chancellor when the previous vice chancellor resigned. so he had alot of say. After he became acting vice chancellor, the move to the new campus was very swift and efficient. That would be Professor Smales? I initially tot it was prof Smiles, haih, tot it was so appropriate... QUOTE(jay) The library is very functional because all the books you'll ever need can be found there. and if you're not too well to do, just photostat the books to keep it with you permanently.;P At least I do that for some of the books that are too expensive. One dental book cost RM700!! we rolled our eyes and just went to the library and photostated it. rm700!!! Dat's too much!!! Well, I shall bug my parents to get me a laptop then...but right now a bit pai-seh to ask for money...when I think of the fees, can buy a merc wit it...and then they throw it on an STPM student who failed to get into local uni bcos din do dat well!!! Thanks frags! Glad to know there is good, cheap food aroun!!! |
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Jun 26 2007, 04:47 PM
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hehehe yay you replied! my efforts didn't go to waste:P
yeah man, real teeth:) or else how are you going to get familiarized with them? the lucky buggers are those who have dentists as parents. they'd bring one jam bottle full of teeth..and we'd be like, "can share ar? but so far i've got 50 over teeth in a bottle next to me now... skull ar...yeapppp... the bones of the face are of great importance to us dentists. you'll be doing that alot in your third module in your first year! that means about....february-april 08 you'll be learning those:) hehehe yeah Prof. Smales. I didn't even know he was british.. i thought it was some middle eastern man.. u know..like ismail or shamal... or something.hahaha..worse than you ok. But alot of my classmates sleep in his classes one. but he's a really great guy,very approachable.. he always tells us the progress of the dental school and we'll flutter with excitement.. LOL I know.....my dad had to take money out of his EPF to pay the bills! but i'm also on PTPTN loan lar.. Rm105k will be available to you if you apply. upon graduation and getting a job, you'll have 20 years to pay back:) There have been talks of subsidizing the PTPTN loan repayment from your future salaries.... but so far not heard of anything yet. here's a nice juicy info.... I heard that, as of now, fresh graduates..working for the government(upon graduation must do three years with the government..you get to list three places that you'd like to work at..like how u apply for public uni.).. anyway upon employment... can get about RM3000+!! coz basic pay is 1000 something...then got transport allowance, housing allowance, critical allowance(this is for those who are serving in the health industry..because they are being very thankful of our services), and i'm not sure but got overtime allowance also... Got this from a dentist in Johor and my two lab technology lecturers. Hope that stimulated you more:) |
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Jun 27 2007, 11:46 PM
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Haha...Ya, feels so nice to have someone reply...I feel that too...
AND YOUR BLOG IS REALLY GREAT!!! I love the pictures...they're really helpful to me and any one who wants to go to AIMST! (Gambate, girl!!!)...now I know what my new home-for-de-next-five-years looks like, and it looks COOL!! Do many of the students have dentists for parents? It's so inspiring man, kids following their parents footsteps...sniff...tot teens usually flew off in the opposite direction...50 TEETH!!! 50 teeth equals 50 dead people who were kind enough to donate their teeth to science...Hmmm...deco...gruesome! I've never had a caucausian teacher before...Prof Smales would be interesting! QUOTE(jayelleenelial @ Jun 26 2007, 04:47 PM) LOL I know.....my dad had to take money out of his EPF to pay the bills! but i'm also on PTPTN loan lar.. Rm105k will be available to you if you apply. upon graduation and getting a job, you'll have 20 years to pay back:) Sounds boootiful! I hope I can get a big PTPN loan...the interest rate is great...no banks will ever let you loan money at that interest rate! The 'list three places for your future workplace' SOUNDS great, but having used the system before...hmmm, I won't get my hopes up! There have been talks of subsidizing the PTPTN loan repayment from your future salaries.... but so far not heard of anything yet. here's a nice juicy info.... I heard that, as of now, fresh graduates..working for the government(upon graduation must do three years with the government..you get to list three places that you'd like to work at..like how u apply for public uni.).. anyway upon employment... can get about RM3000+!! coz basic pay is 1000 something...then got transport allowance, housing allowance, critical allowance(this is for those who are serving in the health industry..because they are being very thankful of our services), and i'm not sure but got overtime allowance also... Got this from a dentist in Johor and my two lab technology lecturers. Hope that stimulated you more:) Erm, do you live on campus? Hey, may sound silly, but is it possible to set up a desktop in your room? Desktops are cheaper than laptops (wondering how to stretch my savings, kekeke) soooooo...it sounds so silly, Thank you, Jolene, thank you... |
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Jun 28 2007, 02:13 PM
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hahaha yeah man! that's why forums are so fun, so exciting when someone replies..
For the past one year, i've gotten emails from alot of future dental students who want to know about aimst lah. hehehe thank you thank you;P Do drop by more! but... actually, no use already..coz the next dentistry related post will only come when you're already in your first year. now no more classes for me until school reopens! Well..about four people in my class.. one in Perak, Two in Penang and one in Negeri Sembilan. eh nolah! those are teeth that have been extracted from live patients... so we just get them to practice filling and stuff lor. yeahhh but whatever it is.. you're still doing dentistry... wherever they send you to, at least you're still gaining experiences. can you believe it..my father actually suggested i go into the army and become a dentist for the soldiers. wtf. over my dead body. but he said i can get a Sgt title in front of my Dr. or something . don't know lah.. me? nooo.. i rent a house outside. one entire terrace house for rm450 a month with two of my other classmates. yeah of course you can set up a desktop:) just hope that they'll have the LAN cables ready in the hostels by the time you move in. according to my classmates who stay in hostel, there are already ports there..but no wire lah. the new campus hasn't got an internet connection at all.....but it'll come in a couple of weeks' time. ah well. anyway, enjoy the rest of ur hols:) and feel free to ask me anything else yeah when you have your doubts and questions.. take care:) Added on June 28, 2007, 2:15 pmbtw, are you banana? you sound banana:D This post has been edited by jayelleenelial: Jun 28 2007, 02:15 PM |
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Jun 29 2007, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(jayelleenelial @ Jun 28 2007, 02:13 PM) eh nolah! those are teeth that have been extracted from live patients... so we just get them to practice filling and stuff lor. Hahhaa...what does a banana sound like? I can speak Mandarin like I have a banana in my mouth... yeahhh but whatever it is.. you're still doing dentistry... wherever they send you to, at least you're still gaining experiences. can you believe it..my father actually suggested i go into the army and become a dentist for the soldiers. wtf. over my dead body. but he said i can get a Sgt title in front of my Dr. or something . don't know lah.. me? nooo.. i rent a house outside. one entire terrace house for rm450 a month with two of my other classmates. yeah of course you can set up a desktop:) just hope that they'll have the LAN cables ready in the hostels by the time you move in. according to my classmates who stay in hostel, there are already ports there..but no wire lah. the new campus hasn't got an internet connection at all.....but it'll come in a couple of weeks' time. ah well. anyway, enjoy the rest of ur hols:) and feel free to ask me anything else yeah when you have your doubts and questions.. take care:) Added on June 28, 2007, 2:15 pmbtw, are you banana? you sound banana:D Sgt. Dr. Jolene BDS (Mal) Not too bad la...but if have to threat soldiers and soldiers only....haih..dowan...even my bro is bad enufff...soldiers...gonna hv a tough time getting them to brush teeth...sigh...guys...they don't bathe also quite happy... Thanks for all your help! And yep, shall enjoy my hols gao gao...you too! |
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Jun 29 2007, 10:20 PM
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Guys, I'm back! Was really busy during the wholeee last week. Din expect this post to be so active when i first opened it. Not bad at all man. At least there's still people talking about AIMST. Haha.
Well, just told a few of my friends about AIMST a few days ago when they asked me where do i study, majority of them doesn't even know that AIMST existed man! Even some doctors too, cause when my mom mentioned about it to the doctors, they suggested IMU instead. It's always IMU IMU and IMU. Sigh. FYI my mom's a nurse working at UMMC. Was wondering when our first batches of MBBS student will graduate, to prove that AIMST can produce good doctors too. =) |
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Jun 30 2007, 03:30 PM
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heya csrulez!
I think the 1st batch will be graduating soon already as they are in their final year..... Yeah....IMU's so old that's why.... i guess all we need is time to develope aimst's name. I'm sure you being an AIMST student, sometimes the management can really make you vomit blood. Especially student affairs.... but then again, which uni in Malaysia doesn't make you angry at any one point rite?? |
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Jul 1 2007, 09:01 PM
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Hey jayelleenelial! Hmm.. i was from April 06/07 Foundation Batch.. Haven seen me around? Maybe cos i'm not that popular in aimst.. hahaa..
YEAH! especially that student affairs division.. i havent got my deposit back yet. Sigh. and one more thing.. AIMST likes to make empty promises. kinda tired of it already sometimes. Oh btw are there any improvement in AIMST since i left in mid-april? heard that de new campus is slowly improving already.. is it true? Haha. =) And yeah.. I'm actually having a dilemma here right now. Not really sure if AIMST is better, or Manipal? I've heard many friends of mine have been accepted into Melaka Manipal with AIMST foundation result. And from wat i heard, it seems that Manipal is better due to its recognition. A few ques tho, Will AIMST's MBBS programme be recognised by MMC? and If really it's recognised by MMC, does it mean that it is recognised by the WHO as well? No point studying for 5 years there and in the end what i got is an unrecognised degree.. sigh.. Really need some advice from you here, senior. =.= Thanks lots if you can help! =) |
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Jul 1 2007, 09:53 PM
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as has been explained many times, mmc will only accord recognition just before graduating the first batch, so about now.............
and who DO NOT "recognise" medical schools, they just record the existence of such medical schools.........recognition, as in the meaning one is ALLOWED to practise medicine, is the sovereign right of each individual country, and the rules are as many and as varied as there are countries in the world,.........but one thing for sure, at this point, and the foreseeable future, this degree will NOT be recognised outside malaysia.............. |
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Jul 2 2007, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jul 1 2007, 09:53 PM) as has been explained many times, mmc will only accord recognition just before graduating the first batch, so about now............. From what I understand, a bachelors degree from AIMST will probably allow you to work in Malaysia. However, Let's say you proceed to get a postgrad from another university, say UM, and then get a PhD or Fellowship from the UK...will other (Singapore, UK etc) countries recognize you then? Or will they be pushy and make you take qualifying tests and stuff...Hmmm, I hear the Malaysian Government is going to make all doctors and dentists take a qualifying test, even if you got a degree from Cambridge...and who DO NOT "recognise" medical schools, they just record the existence of such medical schools.........recognition, as in the meaning one is ALLOWED to practise medicine, is the sovereign right of each individual country, and the rules are as many and as varied as there are countries in the world,.........but one thing for sure, at this point, and the foreseeable future, this degree will NOT be recognised outside malaysia.............. |
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Jul 2 2007, 07:02 PM
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Hmm.. so basically does it mean that Manipal is better? because they said that medical council from many countries are slowly recognising the Manipal's MBBS programme already.. And btw, the terms "WHO Recognised" i mentioned is from Wikipedia. Sry.
One more thing, if i took the MBBS programme from AIMST, which is only recognised by MMC(Lets say), will i be qualify to take my post-graduate studies like MRCP/FRCP from UK? However, I've heard from doctors that MRCS/FRCS is not recognised in M'sia if one wants to be a surgeon. Is it true? So if i were to take the degree dat doesn't "existed" in WHO directory but recognised by MMC, does it mean that i have to queue up for the MMed postgraduate programme in M'sia instead? Thanks for answering. =) This post has been edited by csrulez: Jul 2 2007, 07:06 PM |
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Jul 2 2007, 07:59 PM
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recognition for registration to practice is based on your basic 1st degree.........subsequent qualifications are post-graduate ones, and usually not looked at for registration purposes.
what you need to do to get registered in other countries depends on the rules of that country, so i cannot generalise. eg for us, ALL will need to sit and pass the umsle. there was talk about malaysia doing that as well, but i doubt. in any case, if they want to do that they should follow what the us does for their LOCAL graduates, ie all, including local us med graduates have to pass the umsle too. it is difficult to compare and say which schools are better, manipal is more established, so the degrees are already recognised by mmc, but that does NOT mean it is "better". if there is a delay, it may mean there is a problem with the programme. the mmc rules are quite strict (though not as strict as other countries) as to the conditions for recognition, and many new med schools cannot meet the requirements, and are sometimes only given provisional recognition to be reviewed. this has happened even to ipta med schools. as for qualifying to sit for foreign postgraduate exams, it depends on the awarding bodies. i think the british royal colleges will recognise most of the commonwealth med schools for this purpose, but i am not sure about the new ones, you will need to contact them directly to ask. by the way, the frcp is not an exam qualification, but given honorary to senior members of the college, and sometimes prominent members of the local comunity. the mrcs is NOT recognised by malaysia, but the frcs still is. however, it is almost impossible for local graduates to get the british frcs nowadays due to training preresquisites and restrictions on who can sit the exams. yes, for most of the surgical postgraduates, the only pathway left for the majority of local grads, is the masters. |
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Sep 25 2007, 01:27 AM
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1,114 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: PJ, Selangor |
Hey guys! AIMST MBBS Degree has been recognised by the MMC! Its a 3 years recognition whereby we have the same recognition status as UM. No regrets joining this uni! Great uni i'd say! =)
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Sep 25 2007, 08:03 AM
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no local medical school, both ipta and ipts, have ever had their degrees NOT recognised by mmc............you can come to your own conclusions about that fact............
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Sep 25 2007, 10:48 AM
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Haha. Yeah true but at least it gives everyone a safer "feel" now already. Anyway the facillities here are really great. It seems that we have one of the best MDL lab among the medical schools in Malaysia. Lecturers are great too. We have few popular lecturers like Dr. Bhupinder from Penang for forensic medicine. Not bad for a 6 yer old medical uni. =)
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Oct 3 2007, 08:03 PM
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Think twice before going to AIMST foundation especially for the july intake foundation. It is really risky as you have to fight for the limited seated with the april batch intake. Normally places would be given to april batch students as priority. Then only the limited places would be given to the july batch. Plus, even if you get good result with all A+ it would not secure a place for you in the medic if you are in the july batch. It is really a risky thing to do. Not worth to risk your future with these right? So, advice to you is think twice before going to aimst for their foundation especially for july intake. IMU would be certainly a better choice even if it is slightly more expensive.
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Oct 4 2007, 08:35 PM
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is the cert recognised and is it good?
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Oct 4 2007, 11:05 PM
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YUP! AIMST 1st batch of doctors are out d. Currently waiting for hospital posting. And we got reognised by MMC already since our 1st batch has graduated and registered with MMC. Well, is it good? That is ne question i couldn't answer you because i dunno how to evaluate agood medical university. So far what i can say is that i'm really satisfied with AIMST. We've got better facillities and good lecturers here. Our campus is huge too! Give www.aimst.edu.my a visit to get more info. =)
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Oct 5 2007, 12:57 AM
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hahaha csrulez/Shawn, you handle the promotion of medic while I spread the love for dentistry. hehehe.
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Oct 5 2007, 12:39 PM
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Hahaha! yeah sure, lending AIMST a hand to achieve their vision to be a prestigious university. XD
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Jan 14 2008, 10:21 AM
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Can someone describe on the foudation in science offered by aimst and pharmacy as well? doesn the pharmacy board recognised the pharmacy degree?
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Feb 2 2008, 08:49 PM
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hi, i m jz enrolled in foundation in science jan intake 2008
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Feb 3 2008, 08:52 PM
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Hey, me too !! Foundation in Science Jan Intake. I wonder if we have meet each other during orientation week. ^^
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Feb 3 2008, 11:52 PM
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Hi everyone! Welcome to AIMST! So how do you guys find it there? Good? Haha. Nyways, i'm from MBBS Batch 13, ditched the orientation. Catch up with u guys after CNY! Enjoyy! =)
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Feb 4 2008, 12:06 AM
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Haha Thanks. AIMST is very nice. I feel very comfortable here. But it is very empty. xD Tomorrow, we will be starting our classes. Cool ! ^^
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Feb 4 2008, 01:18 PM
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Enjoy ur classes then! AIMST is still new, give them some time and i'm sure one day we will be standing on a globally recognised university. Hope so. Haha. Nyways, AIMST students reunite at LYN! =)
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Mar 26 2008, 06:11 PM
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halo ... may i get sum info abt the pharmacy course at aimst ? i really ned it .... thx ..
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Mar 26 2008, 07:07 PM
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go to their website.....?http://www.aimst.edu.my/
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Mar 26 2008, 07:17 PM
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My friend will be doing foundation in science there in April.
He says that he been there once and he likes the place. |
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Mar 27 2008, 01:32 AM
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i ned sum opinion abt the pharmacy course at aimst ... whether is recognised by Pharmacy board Of malaysia ...... thx for help .....
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Mar 27 2008, 02:22 PM
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phramacy weell i'm not too sure. but for mbbs course, it's only recognised recently on february by MMC. From wad i've observed, so far we're only ON OUR WAY for recognition by our pharmacy board as our 1st batch has not graduated yet. Not so sure tho, check out our website or give the School of Pharmacy a call. I'm sure dey will provide u with a more detailed answer. =)
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Mar 27 2008, 07:13 PM
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thz alot abt ur help .... it really help me alot ... hope tat v can meet there also ..... Ha...
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Mar 29 2008, 01:44 PM
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sure dude, welcome to aimst then. =)
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Mar 30 2008, 12:12 PM
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More Lowyat people at AIMST. ^^ Anyway, AIMST is a really nice place to study and I'm lovin it too. Sometimes, I don't feel like going home because it is too far. XD
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Mar 31 2008, 06:39 PM
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there is 1 more thing i wan 2 ask is how many student intake for pharmacy course at aimst lol ..... i really wan 2 know ..... thx for help ....
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Apr 1 2008, 03:33 PM
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50 students per intake currently. But most of the students are from our own foundation programme. =)
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Apr 2 2008, 08:35 PM
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Hey there guys...was wondering can we enroll into AIMST after we completed our A-Levels?
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Apr 3 2008, 12:33 AM
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yeah of course you can, since A levels is also a Pre-U programme. Haha. But entry will depends on how competitive is the courses as priority will be placed for AIMST foundation students first. =)
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Apr 5 2008, 03:07 PM
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Hi to everyone...
I'm form BATCH 2 MBBS AIMSt.. just graduated not long ago. Let me give you guys a brief summary of my experience in AIMST. I've heard and seen alot of people looking down and comment about AIMST and etc. I'm not saying this because I'm from AIMST. To think of it, at the end of the day, anyone who is interested to be a doctor, the most important thing is the MBBS degree with a license to practice. Regardless which medical school you graduated from, is up to the individual to update himself/herself in this field. I still remember when IMU wasn't recognized back then, I've heard consultants making fun of them saying their graduates faint during surgery because they haven't seen a cadaver before. AIMST offers an intergrated programme like those in UK. The program is designed not to be fix and its constantly changing to meet the demands of current medical practice. I dont know how other medical school works. It is because we were small when we started out and i happened to know the admin staff and everyone. At AIMST, we have external examiners and inputs from hospital staff. From there, things are continuously changing to improve our graduates. I can personnaly assure all my juniors and prospective students that you will have a fun life at AIMST compare to my days here. As facilities are concern, we are the one of the best in country and probably the best in the private sector. No offense to other medical school, its because we are newly built. In terms of staff, well to those who hated the traditional system you may find my statement irritating. Traditional system is not too bad. I got a mixture of two teachings. We have Indian lecturers who are used to the traditional system and have to confine to the new integrated system. The traditional system does push your basics very well and strong. Integrated system, you have a tendency to study the material vaguely unless you are very hardworking to read extra and understand things by yourself. In this forum i heard people mentioning top MBBS prof left AImST. well like all medical school there is always politics involved. Graduating form AIIMS in India is one thing but most of our lecturers who doesn't have qualification from there but in fact they are professors and lecturers teaching there. Some of our lecturers treat us like their own children. One of them is Prof. Dhayakani.. JUNIORS PLEASE TREAT HER WELL.. SHE IS A GEM. I used to remember I was a slacker back then and lecturers would get hold of me in the corridor and questioned me whether i study hard and etc. Think of it, no medical school lecturers or prof would treat you as such. Its like a family here if you are close to the lecturers. examination... During my days, IT WAS HELL.. my first year itself I had more than 22 exams excluding finals. My 4th year finals was the most traumatic experience of my life. You have 6 papers to sit and 5 clinical sessions..ALL MUST PASS scenario. Even the external examiners commented our exams was over the limit in a way. I'm not bragging that my medical school is tough. I know people from PMC, IMU, PCM and MMC, the conclusion is every medical school at one point has its own filtering system to make sure students are competent. In terms of quality, I didn't know this at first but after going throught the final hurdle. I realized that each medical school in Malaysia has external examiners from both private and local universities. External examiners are the deciding factor whether the student pass or fail his/her exams. So no foul play are involved and quality is not compromise. Currently, starting from 5th batch onwards.. you guys are lucky.. things are much easier. So if i were you guys. I would appreciate it and enjoy fully hehe. Currently, the first batch already got their postings. I have done my interview with SPA and now waiting for my postings. AIMST is already fully recognized and accredited my MOH and MMC. If anyone out there have further questions about AIMST in general, you can msg me. I'm more than glad to help you out. Note: Before anyone of you apply to any medical school in Malaysia, make sure the programme and the environment is suitable for you. I don't think there is any point comparing which school is better. Ultimately, its make no difference because besides UM/UKM/ IMU Partner school/ PMC, other medical schools here are not recognized overseas. Hence, anyone who compares which medical school is bad or good, it ridiculous, if one medical school is good then it should have recognition from GMC UK. In every medical school, there is poor, mediocre and good students. Its up to the person to decide what kind of student he/she wants to be. |
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Apr 5 2008, 06:20 PM
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1,114 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: PJ, Selangor |
Heyy super senior! I've been waiting for a post from one of the really senior medical batches from AIMST. Am really proud of you guy's graduation and our medical programme has finally been recognised. Still remembered that day when Prof Harcharan asked us to clap for being unofficially recognised by MMC during our microbiology introduction class just not too long ago. It seems that they are soo proud of you guys and he said dat deir efforts have finally shown up after all these years. =)
I've seen the postings for the first batch of our very own medical students, though there are 17 from aimst's official website. Looking forward to see the list of postings for you guys up soon. Alright, sosme intro, I'm currently at the lastest batch 13. Life's still quite okay and heyyy, prof Dakyakani is our biochem lecturer. In fact, most of the lecturer here treated us as if we're deir kids. Dr. Diwakar is also one of the most fatherly lecturer i've seen. Currently our curriculum is to have only 4 CAs for 1st year excluding finals. Was so shocked when i heard you guys were having 22 exams in a year! I mean like, 22 is 6 times the amount of our exam! Well, anyways you guys have made it through in the end and reallly, the junior batches were all so proud with you guys. We're currently struggling only for our 1st CA and guess deres still a long long way to go. Wishing you guys all de best and pleeasee do keep us updated about ur experience as a houseman in hospitals. We're pretty interested in that, really. XD |
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Apr 6 2008, 11:54 AM
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1,039 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Malaka |
i got all my science subjects 5c .. can i apply foundation science in aimst?
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Apr 8 2008, 12:11 AM
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here are some photos for those who are keen to see the interior of AIMST:
![]() This was taken before my practical class - the new dental simulation lab. We carry out practical classes on tooth restorations, root canal therapies and etc. Work is mostly done on extracted teeth and plastic teeth on the simulator. ![]() This is the study area which is located above the library. ![]() A corner of the huggee Admin building. ![]() This is the view that greets you as the doors of the elevator in the library centre open on the highest floor. ![]() My coursemates(dentistry! woohoo!) enjoying themselves at the university's Olympic Sized Pool. ![]() The examination hall that is located under the Admin building. ![]() A view of the dental faculty(combined with engineering faculty) across the sprawling green lawn. ![]() The great big park between the faculty buildings and the admin hall at night. ![]() The badminton court at the sports complex where we spend most of our evenings. This post has been edited by jayelleenelial: Apr 8 2008, 12:12 AM |
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Apr 15 2008, 01:55 PM
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excuse me, what is MMC????
i've searched for the website of LAN(www.lan.gov.my) and have searched for AIMST MBBS, it mentioned that only Bahagian I & II is fully accredited by LAN....(http://www.lan.gov.my/eskp/index.cfm), what does it mean??? and i've also searched for the website of ministry of health(moh)(www.moh.gov.my), and AIMST MBBS is not in the list of university that is recognized by moh... (http://www.moh.gov.my/MohPortal/unimedPublic.jsp?search=MALAYSIA&search2=&action.x=14&action.y=8&action=search) so, is it hard to register as a doctor after graduate??? har??? only 2% Malays??? then not many ppl can accompany me to do my prayers..... got only chinese and indian food??? what about malay food??? |
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Apr 15 2008, 02:07 PM
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759 posts Joined: Dec 2006 |
wao, it luks nice as compared to my uni leh, ahha
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Apr 15 2008, 03:45 PM
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i only have 4 credit,can i enroll into foundation programme??
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Apr 15 2008, 09:55 PM
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262 posts Joined: Apr 2008 From: Petaling Jaya |
my cousin studying there and i intended going there too.. went to visit the campus once.. MAN!!! it is fabulous.. with vry beautiful landscape and majestic buildings.. fall in love with AIMST at the 1st sight.. no joke!
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Apr 16 2008, 05:20 PM
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To Catty,
MMC stands for Malaysia Medical Council. You need provisional license in order to practice. There is 3 steps to becoming a houseman in Malaysia. First you must apply to Suruhanjaya Perkidmatan Awam, Malaysia Medical Council, and Ministry of Health. Once that is done, the SPA and MMC will procesed the form and send it to MOH for further approval. Once you are in the 5th year, there will be a briefing for it, I think is ridiculous to explain it over the net because every batch there is changes. Catty, as may you see from previous reply by crulez. Our first batch already got their postings as houseman in various hospital. You can see it in the AIMST website. This indicates the MOH MMC and LAn have already approved AIMST. Without these approvals the SPA wont accept us as government servants to begin with. So i hope that clear your doubts. Is good to know you are going through tedious search process to make sure you make the right choice before getting into AIMST. As you may notice the list of MOH is outdated and is not the current one. I'm sure you saw the LIST II in the MOH website. If that doesnt convinced you enough, check out MMC website for registered doctors..under AIMST university you will see 55 of us are on the list with provisional license. IN Malaysia, to register as a doc is relative easy. You just need a recognized degree. If you are from local and private frm Malaysia it would be easier because they apply in batches. if you are an individual from abroad, its more tedious and time consuming but you still get the job. UNLESS YOUR IQ is like an idiot and you got attitude problem, its almost confirm you can get a place as a houseman in the govt service. As malay population is concerned, well I'm a chinese, take it as an opportunity to learn different culture. You may learn alot of things out of it. You are gonna become a doc and you need to deal with people from different culture background. You don't have to worry in a way, as you reach 3rd year, you will be fine as the hospital training will be in Kedah and you will meet many local malays there. I had a fun time there when i was doing my clinical. People in Kedah are humble and cheerful. very simple minded community and slow pace. Ideal place to study and pass your exams. I hope this reply is helpful for you... Added on April 16, 2008, 5:29 pm Hi Shaun, There is nothing to be proud.. haha. Just glad that I make it through. It was a long journey for me. Prof Hacharan is a joker. You guys will definitely enjoy his class. lol Batch 13?. I heard alot of things from you batch..BOTH GOOD AND BAD lol. I'm sure you guys are benefiting alot from our feedback in the past. I saw some your teachings and lectures. I think is wonderful with you all have at this moment. about exams in AIMST?... haha.. my advice is ... check out Indian textbooks. You probably benefit alot from it. However, there is a few western books which is better like biochem and physiology. I'm not here to condemned indianbooks. Most books are written based on individual basis. So if you are having an external exams or plan to take USMLE or etc.. better to double check certain things with western literature. Even I used Indian books to pass all my exams, but study smart..pick and read. Indians books are very good for their concepts explanation and understanding but however certain things like treatment and management..double check and modify it because their country style of practice is different from western countries and ours. experience as housemen?.. like all housemen will say... HELL haha.. This post has been edited by getalong16ex: Apr 16 2008, 05:29 PM |
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Apr 16 2008, 05:58 PM
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there has NEVER been any medical school in msia, which has not got mmc recognition when the first batch graduates, no matter what the shortfalls may be.......yes, aimst has got mmc recognition....
for the uninitiated, mmc recognises whether you are a doctor and can practice in msia or not......1st step for all doctors...... spa is the EMPLOYER for all government servants, so since ALL doctors needs to do 2 years housemanship (if not done already elsewhere) and 3 years compulsory service, ALL doctors will AUTOMATICALLY become civil servants for 3-5 years minimum.....so the formality of 'applying for a job' with the spa.......EVERY doctor will get a job!! as a civil servant, you are then assigned to one of 3 ministries which 'uses' doctors, ie moh, moe, and mod........the vast majority will of course go to moh...... finally, i hope you all are not deciding on your unis based on the buildings.......... This post has been edited by limeuu: Apr 16 2008, 05:59 PM |
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Apr 16 2008, 06:54 PM
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thanks all~
go go AIMST!!!! |
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Apr 29 2008, 03:07 PM
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Can anyone pls tell me more about foundation in science.Is it hard n how is the environment there? kinda nervous since im not local n nvr been there b4.(my friend tell me the place is kinda "ulu")
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May 2 2008, 12:44 PM
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Hi guys, I rejected UTAR and TARC because they offered me the course i dont want
SO i just wanna ask, I want to go Foundation of Science in AIMST at July Is there place for me to study? |
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May 2 2008, 01:19 PM
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153 posts Joined: Jun 2007 From: Johor Bahru |
why don't you contact aimst itself? since we're just students, we won't know exactly how many people have registered themselves, correct?
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May 2 2008, 01:30 PM
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i guess so :/
i going for biotechnology after foundation Added on May 2, 2008, 2:56 pmoh ya, i have a question i have credits in physics and biology but not chemistry(7D) can i have chance to go in foundation of science? This post has been edited by kel003: May 2 2008, 02:56 PM |
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May 2 2008, 04:11 PM
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1,114 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: PJ, Selangor |
True like what jayenellial has said. You gotta contact the student recuitment division or visit their website (www.aismt.edu.my) for more info. Just an update for u guys, there were 230+ students who registered themselves for the current april 2008 batch. It's a really big batch. And kel003, dun worry on not getting a place for foundation as there had not limit the seats for foundation studies yet.
As for getalong16ex, thanks for all de kind advices. I'm sure that housemen's life is hectic but fun at the same time. Cant' wait for the clinical years to come. But one more thing, mind to let me know wads the good and BAD thing about our batch? LOL! Din expect news to spread so fast, even to super senior batches who has already graduated. XD Thanks. |
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May 2 2008, 06:35 PM
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Oh thanks for the good news
So i will send my application at the coming monday through post den i hope i can see u guys in AIMST at july |
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May 4 2008, 07:26 PM
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1,114 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: PJ, Selangor |
Sure kel003, shall see you here for the july intake real soon. Enjoy your holidays for the time being.
And another update for LYN AIMST thread, our very own students council is coming up soon! At last, after all these years. Hopefully we students will be able to do something to make some positive changes for our very own university. =) |
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May 6 2008, 12:13 AM
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Just sended by application today via Pos Express
hope to get the reply back ASAP before form 6 starts if not i am going form 6 while waiting Added on May 11, 2008, 12:03 amStill havent got reply yet This post has been edited by kel003: May 11 2008, 12:03 AM |
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May 12 2008, 07:17 PM
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1,039 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Malaka |
when july intake start ha?
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May 12 2008, 07:30 PM
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153 posts Joined: Jun 2007 From: Johor Bahru |
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May 14 2008, 09:41 PM
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they wont reply me too early right?
or they will send me reply at end of may something i hope so |
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May 14 2008, 09:46 PM
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1,039 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Malaka |
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May 15 2008, 07:02 PM
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Yeah I have been accepted by AIMST !!
going there at 17th June ! |
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May 19 2008, 08:49 PM
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Hi, i was thinking of applying for AIMST foundation in science course too. I am worried whether i will be accepted or not as my SPM have only 6A1,1A2,2B3, and 2 B4. with my biology and chemistry b4.....and i would oso want to noe whether is there wireless service at the campus and hostel?
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May 19 2008, 11:14 PM
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1,114 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: PJ, Selangor |
Congrats kel003, welcome to aimst. Shall see you around soon.
loveuallso> no worries, your result is good enough to enter the foundation programme already. Even you will find no probs to enter medicine with that kind of result, a minimum of B4 for all science subjects will do. =) And currently we only have wired LAN connection. Wireless is coming up soon, but do not know how soon will it be. haha. |
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May 20 2008, 02:49 PM
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ic.thnx. so if after i take the foundation there, can i continue elsewhere? like IMU,Penang Medical School,monash or overseas? or am i bound to finish everything there?
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May 20 2008, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(loveuallso @ May 20 2008, 02:49 PM) ic.thnx. so if after i take the foundation there, can i continue elsewhere? like IMU,Penang Medical School,monash or overseas? or am i bound to finish everything there? if you wanna max your options, do a generic pre-u course like a-levels, IB, oz year 12 (sam, ausmat, nsw-hsc etc)......... |
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May 20 2008, 06:02 PM
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May 20 2008, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(bidfordun @ May 20 2008, 06:02 PM) hehe, but if like that it is hard to take medicine at aimst edy as the those who take foundation there are given priority first. not necessarily......there are over 300 foundation students fighting for 100 places......, and some of these 100 places will be given to 'external' applicants eg, a-levels etc......so if you do the foundation and fails to get in, you are stuffed......... |
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May 20 2008, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 20 2008, 06:07 PM) not necessarily......there are over 300 foundation students fighting for 100 places......, and some of these 100 places will be given to 'external' applicants eg, a-levels etc......so if you do the foundation and fails to get in, you are stuffed......... 100 places just for MBBS?wat bout biotech? i going biotech after foundation |
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May 21 2008, 02:27 PM
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1,114 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: PJ, Selangor |
bidfordun> Yes, priority will be given for foundation only IF you managed to qualify for it, which is to get good results for it. Other type of entry requirements would be other form of pre-u programme i.e. STPM, A-lvls, SAM etc.
And there are 60 students per intake, and 2 intakes per year for MBBS programme. This means that the annual intake for MBBS is 120 students currently. There will be an intake in both Jan and June. However hearing what our dean said recently, they will be having only one intake starting year 2009, which will be 200 students per intake in September. Not sure yet though. Yup, students for three batches of foundation namely the Jan, April and July batch has to fight for the seats. But every yer, not all will manage to make it to medicine, most of the time less than 60 out of 300 as not all foundation students are aiming for medicine. There are other courses like dentistry and pharmacy as well. =) As for kel003, no worries for biotech as there has not been any limits for the number of students per intake yet. Just study, get ur results to qualify and enter the degree. Nothing to worry about. |
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May 25 2008, 10:03 PM
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Got my letter now
Do i really need to wear long sleeve shirt with tie during orientation day? I gonna look stupid This post has been edited by kel003: May 29 2008, 12:36 PM |
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Jun 1 2008, 09:07 PM
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hihi !!! I'm also going to aimst dis july intake. I'm gonna go register dis tuseday. Juz went to aimst 2day to c d environment n omg...it's so dam nice...but i've got a ques...if i cant manage 2 squeeze into da dentistry course after finishing da foundation, am i eligible to apply for india's university? if can, which unis? other than india, any other country's uni recognise aimst foundation? erm..n will i b able 2 receive my offer letter in time since da commencement date is 23rd june n i'm only gonna register nex week? thx in advance...
those who r going to aimst's foundation for dis july intake, i'd like to make friends wif u...can add me in msn: jace_kwy@hotmail.com This post has been edited by Jace: Jun 1 2008, 09:10 PM |
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Jun 2 2008, 09:46 AM
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I had a problem in mind
Do u i really have to wear long white sleeve shirt with tie and a slacks during the orientation? Added on June 2, 2008, 9:55 am QUOTE(Jace @ Jun 1 2008, 09:07 PM) hihi !!! I'm also going to aimst dis july intake. I'm gonna go register dis tuseday. Juz went to aimst 2day to c d environment n omg...it's so dam nice...but i've got a ques...if i cant manage 2 squeeze into da dentistry course after finishing da foundation, am i eligible to apply for india's university? if can, which unis? other than india, any other country's uni recognise aimst foundation? erm..n will i b able 2 receive my offer letter in time since da commencement date is 23rd june n i'm only gonna register nex week? thx in advance... i dunno how to answer yr questionthose who r going to aimst's foundation for dis july intake, i'd like to make friends wif u...can add me in msn: jace_kwy@hotmail.com I think u shud call AIMST and ask them and better fast This post has been edited by kel003: Jun 2 2008, 09:55 AM |
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Jun 3 2008, 12:45 AM
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QUOTE(kel003 @ May 25 2008, 11:03 PM) Got my letter now Why would you look stupid? Do i really need to wear long sleeve shirt with tie during orientation day? I gonna look stupid it's the standard dress code for orientation day..so yeah, you have to. |
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Jun 7 2008, 11:56 AM
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If it is dark colour long sleeve shirts it is okay
But wearing a white long sleeve shirts, i look like a CACTUS |
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Jun 9 2008, 02:43 PM
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Hi,
Is there anyone who is interested in learning a new sport called Ultimate Frisbee? You can check out the 10 simple rules of the game at http://www.ultimatehandbook.com/Webpages/B...implerules.html This sport has actually been in Malaysia for quite some time but you hardly seen people play it. Lately, it is becoming more and more popular in KL and Selangor because many people from colleges, universities and secondary schools are taking up this sport. There's actually a Malaysian website for Malaysia's Ultimate Frisbee. You can check out all the happenings of Ultimate Frisbee at http://www.malaysiaultimate.com/. Since I'm back at Sungai Petani and will be here for around 2 months, I was wondering whether anyone from AIMST is interested in learning and playing with me? I'm doing this voluntarily because I want to spread the sport at my own hometown and also finding people to play with. Or if there's already this sport being played there, I would even be happy to join you guys. If there's anyone interested, please PM me. Csrulez, want to try it out? Thanks a lot. This post has been edited by FCUK89: Jun 9 2008, 02:54 PM |
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Jun 11 2008, 05:04 PM
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How big is the hostel of 4 ppl sharing a room?
Each ppl have his own closet? can u guys show the pics? |
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Jun 16 2008, 09:13 PM
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tomorrow do we hav to wear white n black? coz when i went to aimst dat day, the staff said we hav to wear black n white formal clothes on the registration day but in the offer letter it is said dat we can wear casual n on the second day aft d registration day only we hav to wear formal...so is it ok if i wear t-shirt n jeans tomorrow? is lunch n dinner provided 2molo???
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Jun 16 2008, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE(Jace @ Jun 16 2008, 10:13 PM) tomorrow do we hav to wear white n black? coz when i went to aimst dat day, the staff said we hav to wear black n white formal clothes on the registration day but in the offer letter it is said dat we can wear casual n on the second day aft d registration day only we hav to wear formal...so is it ok if i wear t-shirt n jeans tomorrow? is lunch n dinner provided 2molo??? Hey there!Well, it's better if you wear something smart rather than t-shirt and jeans so soon. |
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Jun 19 2008, 03:58 AM
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wow! aimst thread on LYN?!
wtf n00bs. call up the student affairs will ya n00b peeps? learn the art of googling for things you don't know. i think it's alright to wear anything. and in any case they stop you, just go change lah. susah sgt ke? peace out, Lun |
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Jun 19 2008, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(edge85 @ Jun 19 2008, 04:58 AM) wow! aimst thread on LYN?! LOL yeah people, live and learn. you kids need to go through the same things your seniors did: facing the wrath of Mr. Dhama. I don't know how many times I've been sent to the student affair department for the length of my skirt. wtf n00bs. call up the student affairs will ya n00b peeps? learn the art of googling for things you don't know. i think it's alright to wear anything. and in any case they stop you, just go change lah. susah sgt ke? peace out, Lun Google is the oracle! Added on June 19, 2008, 11:42 amoh one more thing.. if you all need information ASAP, (provided there are people online to help you out): join the AIMST Facebook group at: AIMST University's Facebook Group This post has been edited by jayelleenelial: Jun 19 2008, 11:42 AM |
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Jun 20 2008, 10:12 AM
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Hi people, wanna ask how many students per batch for medical course? My cousin in interested in joining AIMST.
Btw, someone posted in another thread that the intake of AIMST is dubious. Is that true? Check here for more info. |
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Jun 20 2008, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(hypermax @ Jun 20 2008, 11:12 AM) Hi people, wanna ask how many students per batch for medical course? My cousin in interested in joining AIMST. About the LAN recognition for AIMST medical students as mentioned in that link that you provided.. well, if you read through the AIMST website and also some of the posts here, our first and second batch of medical students are currently doing their government service all over the country. Btw, someone posted in another thread that the intake of AIMST is dubious. Is that true? Check here for more info. and about the intake.. Um.. i'm not sure! can any medical students answer hypermax? Shaun where are you! |
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hypermax:
AIMST take in 200 students per year (they used to take in only 120), in two seperate batches (ie, 100 each). When that guy mentioned 'dubious', he is right. Priorities are given to students who have completed their AIMST foundation programme. They still do open their seats to other pre-U qualifications. I was in that similar scenario. They couldn't assure me a place in January 08, so I simply opted for dentistry (in which I have no regrets as there are too many doctors anyways). If you're taking up medicine just to join the rat race, then I hope you would reconsider. It is tougher than you think. This post has been edited by edge85: Jun 21 2008, 03:33 AM |
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Jun 21 2008, 02:53 PM
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It's been some time since i last visited this place. lol. not bad at all, aimst thread is getting popular day by day. have been busy with my continuous accessment before this, sorry guys! now i'm done with it and am back to my lovely selangor for a short 1 week break again.
hypermax, the medical programme is both recognised by MMC and LAN where our 1st and 2nd batch is already placed under government housemanship. 3rd batch will be out in few months time as dey have just finished deir final year and currently waiting for govt postings. As for the intake, current intake is 60 students per intake and two intakes per year which is on Jan and Sept. Next year onwards it will be one intake per yer in sept which will be 200 students per intake as told by our dean. However, places are very very very limited for students who are not doing deir pre-u here at aimst. only 3% of students from other qualification such as stpm, a levels etc will be considered for the intake as dere are too many foundation leavers competing for the medical seats. And the current amount students they can take in per intake could not even accomodate deir own foundation programme leavers who have qualified for the medical course. many of them have been placed on de waiting list and asked to wait for at least a year for the next intake. Therefore, i'd recommend you if you're interested in taking up MBBS after ur spm, come do your foundation here and make sure u do well for it. AIMST is no longer like before where medicine is easy to enter, you need to strive for your seats else u'll need to wait. As for aimst studentss, the students council has already been formed. what do you guys think? hahaa. This post has been edited by csrulez: Jun 21 2008, 02:54 PM |
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Jun 21 2008, 06:22 PM
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there is always an issue when entry is based on an in-house foundation programme rather than an internationally recognised matriculation like a-levels/ib/oz year12 etc.....about whether you are selecting the best students.....
'qualifying' just means satisfying the minimum.......not selecting the best......the minimum can be a lowly equivalent of say ter85, a-level BBB....... finally, aimst foundation appears not to be recognised by other ipts.....you get stucked, and will not be able to apply for other unis like monash or imu........ |
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Jun 21 2008, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE Do whatever you do well. Lot's of doctors in Malaysia are I'll mannered overachievers - you can't blame them for being incensed when they see people whom they did better than in school achieving the same things.. or more than they are. "What? That idiot also became a neurosurgeon? What? He/she's making 50k a month? I'm getting 20k! I got 3 more A-s than him/her in SPM! How can this be? Arrghhhh!!!" ... |
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Jun 21 2008, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jun 21 2008, 07:22 PM) there is always an issue when entry is based on an in-house foundation programme rather than an internationally recognised matriculation like a-levels/ib/oz year12 etc.....about whether you are selecting the best students..... I'm not sure about the MBBS programme and how they select their students, but I don't think it differs greatly from dentistry (again, not too sure about the other courses).'qualifying' just means satisfying the minimum.......not selecting the best......the minimum can be a lowly equivalent of say ter85, a-level BBB....... finally, aimst foundation appears not to be recognised by other ipts.....you get stucked, and will not be able to apply for other unis like monash or imu........ As we all know, medicine and dentistry and pharmacy are in high demand all over the country as limited universities in Malaysia offer it. Students who are keen to pursue the other courses like biotech, engineering and business have more doors opened to them as more universities in Malaysia have those courses. I myself came into AIMST with my A-levels results and most of my classmates entered with their STPM results (more than a quarter of the students in my class are straight A STPM scorers, but i think they missed out on an A+ and wham! there goes your chances of getting into a local U).. so it's not really an issue. It can be done. There's even a government matriculation student in my class, she's on the dean's list on a constant basis. Priority is given to the AIMST matriculation programme, which is true. Think about it, if AIMST do not have their matriculation courses, the degree programmes would not be as readily affordable as it is today. Where else can you do an MBBS course in Malaysia (and above) for less than RM200k? The foundation programme is very affordable and even with that affordable amount, some funds would still have to be channeled into building more facilities for the degree courses. I believe that if you think you can make it and do not want to waste any time, you get to go straight into your course with the results you know that you can get. With the matriculation programme, your sole purpose of going through with it is because of the priority given to you. it's a gamble with other internationally recognised foundation programmes. A lot of students who try to enter the degree courses with their foundation results have been rejected and therefore had to spend one year doing the matriculation programme. It's a long time, i agree. But if you wish to come in with your a-levels, Sam, or even HSC, there's no harm trying. A lot of the degree students did their STPMs. the good ones got in, the mediocre ones had to sit for the matriculation programme and prove their worth. If you wanted to apply to unis like Monash and IMU, in the first place, you would've gone straight to do your A-levels, STPM, SAM, CPU, MUFY etc etc.. I think it's rare that an AIMST matric student who didn't qualify for an AIMST degree programme would consider applying to monash and imu. I won't comment on the comparison between the AIMST matriculation programme and the internationally recognised ones. So I'll leave this to one of the foundation students to clarify, if they wish. Just my two cents! |
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Jun 22 2008, 01:13 PM
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i'm in dis recent june batch ( stayed in aimst frm tues to fri n came bec to penang for da weekends). During d orientation day, one of the lecturer asked what course we want to pursue after our foundation n i realise dat those who wants dentistry r very rare...not more than 10 i think...n i asked my seniors they said jan batch also only very few who wanted to pursue dentistry ( not sure abt april batch though). So i think there r many places available for the "outsiders" who wanted to pursue dentistry nex yr. Unless those who gt rejected for MBBS opt for dentistry instead...
currently there r only 60 places for dentistry n there's only 1 intake per yr...but aimst said mayb nex yr they'll hav 2 intakes. Is dis true??? |
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Jun 22 2008, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(Jace @ Jun 22 2008, 02:13 PM) i'm in dis recent june batch ( stayed in aimst frm tues to fri n came bec to penang for da weekends). During d orientation day, one of the lecturer asked what course we want to pursue after our foundation n i realise dat those who wants dentistry r very rare...not more than 10 i think...n i asked my seniors they said jan batch also only very few who wanted to pursue dentistry ( not sure abt april batch though). So i think there r many places available for the "outsiders" who wanted to pursue dentistry nex yr. Unless those who gt rejected for MBBS opt for dentistry instead... Yeah most people want to do MBBS! currently there r only 60 places for dentistry n there's only 1 intake per yr...but aimst said mayb nex yr they'll hav 2 intakes. Is dis true??? two intakes?! I've not heard of that. I shall clarify with my dean and get back to you. |
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thank you !!! but now wat bothers me most is abt whether i can change rooms or not...i'm staying with seniors n it's so not convenient. Las week da student affairs scolded us for asking to change hostels to stay wif the frens we met on the registration day but the wardens said starting 2molo there will b lots of empty rooms cz mbbs batch will b moving out n las yr july batch oso moving out. The wardens assure us dat we can change rooms by then.
BUT, las friday after seeing our timetable n class allocation, a grp of my frens went to the student affairs to ask for changing rooms. In the end they gt scolded n weren't allow 2 change rooms...i was thinking if i go to find the wardens 2molo, i'll b allowed to change rooms or not This post has been edited by Jace: Jun 22 2008, 01:27 PM |
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Jun 22 2008, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE(Jace @ Jun 22 2008, 02:26 PM) thank you !!! but now wat bothers me most is abt whether i can change rooms or not...i'm staying with seniors n it's so not convenient. Las week da student affairs scolded us for asking to change hostels to stay wif the frens we met on the registration day but the wardens said starting 2molo there will b lots of empty rooms cz mbbs batch will b moving out n las yr july batch oso moving out. The wardens assure us dat we can change rooms by then. haha what can I say? Welcome to AIMST!BUT, las friday after seeing our timetable n class allocation, a grp of my frens went to the student affairs to ask for changing rooms. In the end they gt scolded n weren't allow 2 change rooms...i was thinking if i go to find the wardens 2molo, i'll b allowed to change rooms or not Just bear it for awhile, but keep pushing the student affairs. Keep going. They will eventually give in. or get the warden and them connected. but the moment you can...MOVE OUT!! with all your favourite friends. So you're interested in dentistry too? |
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Jun 22 2008, 02:02 PM
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Move out?? wat you mean?? yea, i'm interested in dentistry. in a few minutes time i'm going bec to aimst...cant on9 for the nex 5 days til i cm bec for my weekend holidays again
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Jun 22 2008, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(Jace @ Jun 22 2008, 03:02 PM) Move out?? wat you mean?? yea, i'm interested in dentistry. in a few minutes time i'm going bec to aimst...cant on9 for the nex 5 days til i cm bec for my weekend holidays again Stay out of campus! Rental in BLM(housing area with tons of AIMST students) are from RM450 - Rm600. If you are lucky, some of them are furnished. Mine's not furnished...that's why so cheap. If I'm not mistaken, if you stay one year then can move out alreayd. |
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QUOTE(edge85 @ Jun 21 2008, 08:38 PM) Do whatever you do well. Lot's of doctors in Malaysia are I'll mannered overachievers - you can't blame them for being incensed when they see people whom they did better than in school achieving the same things.. or more than they are. you don't think this is a problem?...."What? That idiot also became a neurosurgeon? What? He/she's making 50k a month? I'm getting 20k! I got 3 more A-s than him/her in SPM! How can this be? Arrghhhh!!!" ... okay, let's see how you choose your doctors when your parents or yourself becomes sick........ This post has been edited by limeuu: Jun 22 2008, 06:06 PM |
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Jun 22 2008, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jun 22 2008, 06:06 PM) you don't think this is a problem?.... I don't see how would that be a problem. No patient would care if you had straight As or not for your SPM. All they most probably want is your track history (after you graduate).okay, let's see how you choose your doctors when your parents or yourself becomes sick........ I mean come on, would you really go to a doctor and ask him "Hey, how many As did you score for your SPM?". Come, do educate us on how would you choose your doctor. |
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Jun 22 2008, 06:49 PM
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Jun 22 2008, 06:52 PM
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when the time comes, you will face the issue......of course it's theoretical at the moment.......
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Jun 22 2008, 07:06 PM
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I mean, seriously...spit it out. How do you pick your doctor? I'm asking you how, that's pretty subjective.
I come from a similar line of profession. I used to have a whole butt load of As too. But now, I could see it's more than just As to be good doctor. In my class, some of the nerds are really bad or slow at cavity preparations & fillings. Their vast amount of text book knowledge is of no use when it comes to hand work. Personally, I wouldn't want a nerd examining me. |
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Jun 23 2008, 11:37 AM
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Wow, a very subjective issue here. Haha. I would still say that past results like spm or even pre-u won't affect the type of doctor you will become one day. Foundation/pre-u programme is only a bridge to bring you from the post-spm level over to the degree level. As long as you don't find any problems coping with the degree course later on, then the foundation programme can be considered as good. This is because that it has provided you with sufficient knowledge that you need for the latter stages in education. Therefore results is not the benchmark on how good can you be in the future, but more to how much of knowledge have you absorbed throughout your studies. Good can be defined better through one's attitude. Why is it that always only students with best result can enter competitive courses like medicine, and often it's not guranteed that they will make the best doctor when they graduate.
Limeuuu, can you confirm that only students who enter with good results make the best doctor in the society currently? Probably they can take stress better than other doctors, but are they more capable in handling patients? Can they make perfect diagnosis with great pre-u or spm results? I would like to know as i'm hoping to be a good doctor in the future as well. Thanks. =) |
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there is the SCIENCE and the ART of medicine.....
to be good in the science, you really have to have a brilliant mind....and that is why good academic results is the first prerequisite..... the art of medicine is more tricky, and is NOT liked to academic ability.....some people calls it the eq....as opposed to iq........ the vast majority of brilliant students/doctors will have good eq too.....but not all.......and it is these exceptions that people time and time again use to justify that good results is not essential to make a good doctor..... on the other hand, there will be those weaker students who struggles through their studies and eventually their working life.......but have good eq, and patients still like them, even though they may not be very competent or knowledgeable....... developed countries recognise all these, and then select their med students carefully.......first step, only the bright students are shortlisted (generally means top 5% of the student cohort).....and from this group, by personality assessment and interview, choose those who is deemed potentially will be good in the art of medicine....... many med students with poor academic results in msian and 3rd world med schools, will never have even pass the first step were they in 1st world countries....... This post has been edited by limeuu: Jun 23 2008, 06:12 PM |
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hmm, just a question, is AIMST cert recognized by malaysia and other parts of the world? And do patients judge the doctor by looking at their certs? Like, they prefer to see a doctor from harvard than from russia? is this the case these days?
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Jun 23 2008, 08:00 PM
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Well, limeuu has pretty much said it all. For once I'll agree.
QUOTE(onelove89 @ Jun 23 2008, 07:06 PM) hmm, just a question, is AIMST cert recognized by malaysia and other parts of the world? And do patients judge the doctor by looking at their certs? Like, they prefer to see a doctor from harvard than from russia? is this the case these days? Frankly, my mom judges her doctors from their certs. I too might judge my doctor from his degree. Yes, having that said, I WILL see where he's graduated from. While I won't cut them off, I'll just be a little more cautious.I'm not so sure about AIMST. The lecturers are excellent. The senior batches too are really good, but as for the ones fresh ones coming in with their AIMST foundation cert, dunno lah. Coz nearly every Tom, d*** & Harry is getting straight As in the SPM. It's quite hard to judge them yet. And why the hell is everyone chasing for an MBBS/MD?! Money? Status? Passion? |
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Jun 23 2008, 07:06 PM) hmm, just a question, is AIMST cert recognized by malaysia and other parts of the world? And do patients judge the doctor by looking at their certs? Like, they prefer to see a doctor from harvard than from russia? is this the case these days? aimst mbbs is now registrable with the mmc......there has never been a case of any local degree not been recognised by the mmc........i am however not aware of any other country that recognises it.....it is relatively new anyway....in the real world, if the cost is not an issue (you are very rich, or someone is willing to pay whatever expenses for you)......yes patients will choose their doctors based on quality (or perceived quality)........if they have access to information and data about the hospital/doctors......that is why patients from small towns will seek treatment in big towns, indonesians flocked to msia hospitals, malaysians go to singapore, singaporeans go to oz/uk/us........that is NOT an ideal situation, but is an inevitable outcome if quality and standards are not seen to be uniform........that is why the 1st world countries TRY to take this guesswork out of the equation as much as possible........ie ensure ALL med graduates have undergone the most stringent selection process, and the best training, and ALL doctors thus produced are equally COMPETENT and SAFE....... try......it is of course not perfect, but at least they try....... are we trying? |
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Jun 23 2008, 08:16 PM
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EQ, i truly believed that EQ is more important than IQ when it comes to working life later on. I have no idea but i've got the feeling that not all students who enter with great results will make a good doctor in the future. Majority of these so called bright students have the ability to cope well in their studies, but often they tend to be arrogant and look down on others when it comes to the society. This is probably because they think that they have a higher education level than the rest of the society or they thought have the ability to fund for their studies as medical courses are not cheap nowadays. It seems that this happens in most of the private medical school in Malaysia. Therefore sometimes i would think that if students who enter with those "not-so-great" results will make a better doctor in the future as they are willing to learn and being not so arrogant when it comes to their attitudes.
One thing i would like to know is that how a good doctor is being defined in the medical community, as Limeuu you yourself is a doctor i believed. Does that mean that medical graduates armed with the most knowledge will emerge as the best doctor? Or is it those who has good doctor-patient relationship skills? Or it is both? Which is more important when it comes to a good doctor. =) onelove89, AIMST MBBS programme is recognised in Malaysia currently but i'm not sure on the rest of the world. I guess it should have no problem if it has been recognised by MMC. However, certain countries such as US will require foreign medical graduates to sit for their own qualification exams such as USMLE. As for patients judging the doctors, i don't think that it's through the certs but more on how competent you are. As for that, you need to gain the confidence of the patient. Harvard and Russian graduates both comes out with the same qualification, which is a doctor at the end. It will depends on how competent they are to judge how good they are. Sounded like a very subjective issue here. This is only my personal comment. Haha. Would love if anyone would like to add on to this. Thanks. =) |
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Jun 23 2008, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(csrulez @ Jun 23 2008, 08:16 PM) EQ, i truly believed that EQ is more important than IQ when it comes to working life later on. I have no idea but i've got the feeling that not all students who enter with great results will make a good doctor in the future. Majority of these so called bright students have the ability to cope well in their studies, but often they tend to be arrogant and look down on others when it comes to the society. This is probably because they think that they have a higher education level than the rest of the society or they thought have the ability to fund for their studies as medical courses are not cheap nowadays. It seems that this happens in most of the private medical school in Malaysia. Therefore sometimes i would think that if students who enter with those "not-so-great" results will make a better doctor in the future as they are willing to learn and being not so arrogant when it comes to their attitudes. like i said, that is pretty much the standard arguement....is is only my personal comment. Haha. Would love if anyone would like to add on to this. Thanks. =) it is not entirely wrong.......but it is a matter of priority.......do you choose people with perceived good eq as 1st priority.......then hope they are just as equally brilliant.......? that seem to be the arguement...... educators/healthcare planners from 1st world disagree.......hence their model i explained above.....are they wrong? and your comments about cost and arrogance is also true..........which is why ABILITY TO PAY THE FEES is never a criteria for selection..........unlike msia and ipts........... and finally, 'sometimes' cannot be extrapolated to become policy, ala 'lets take in all the mediocre students who are willing to learn, sometimes they will become good doctors"........ |
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Jun 23 2008, 10:24 PM
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Thanks Limeuu and csrulez =) Csrulez can you give me more details on the course? Thanks.
I think its unfair to judge by their certs, because one might be a good doctor but is discriminated because he/she graduated from a not-so-famous university, and vice versa. But I guess that is life =/ |
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Jun 23 2008, 11:20 PM
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More details could be found at:
a) At the front of this thread b) AIMST University Website c) AIMST University @ Facebook d) Google it! |
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Jun 23 2008, 10:24 PM) Thanks Limeuu and csrulez =) Csrulez can you give me more details on the course? Thanks. onelove, i recall, was very naive and optimistic just a year ago, saying very confidently he is going to do medicine in oz......I think its unfair to judge by their certs, because one might be a good doctor but is discriminated because he/she graduated from a not-so-famous university, and vice versa. But I guess that is life =/ after a semester in perth, i am sure the realities are setting in, and he understands now what i meant when i said, you do NOT choose you med school.........they choose you.......at least in the 1st world like oz and uk.......... so looks like imu, pmc aimst etc are now real possibilities to consider.......unfortunately, they are where admission is as much decided on academic merit as financial ability.......and where now is the all important eq.......one wonders........ |
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jun 23 2008, 06:09 PM) there is the SCIENCE and the ART of medicine..... I find it strange that i actually agree with what you said after all this while.to be good in the science, you really have to have a brilliant mind....and that is why good academic results is the first prerequisite..... the art of medicine is more tricky, and is NOT liked to academic ability.....some people calls it the eq....as opposed to iq........ the vast majority of brilliant students/doctors will have good eq too.....but not all.......and it is these exceptions that people time and time again use to justify that good results is not essential to make a good doctor..... on the other hand, there will be those weaker students who struggles through their studies and eventually their working life.......but have good eq, and patients still like them, even though they may not be very competent or knowledgeable....... developed countries recognise all these, and then select their med students carefully.......first step, only the bright students are shortlisted (generally means top 5% of the student cohort).....and from this group, by personality assessment and interview, choose those who is deemed potentially will be good in the art of medicine....... many med students with poor academic results in msian and 3rd world med schools, will never have even pass the first step were they in 1st world countries....... It's only appropriate for the best students to be selected for medical course. Often, students with good academic performance not only have IQ but also discipline and determination, which are very much required in this profession. However, as i have always stressed, result should only matter if that particular examination has a clear and well defined marking scheme, unlike SPM. Just look at the number of people getting As. Also, i believe there's certain degree of bias against candidates from private schools, not to mention the leakage of questions which is very much rampant in the northern peninsular. Although one might argue that SPM is the common pathway for all students in Msia, but what's the point of making it the benchmark for students if its marking scheme is dubious? At the moment, training at local private medical schools can never match those of western. They are, however, the only affordable options for the middle class msian who did not take STPM. This is the sad part of medical education in Boleh Land. This post has been edited by hypermax: Jun 24 2008, 12:35 AM |
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Judging from all your posts, you're all most probably future medical practitioners. Then what do you think that could be done to correct this problem? Of wanting both IQ & EQ in doctors. If this continues, manyak susah lor...
Btw, you must also take into consideration, there are many lower/middle class top students who missed by an A in their STPM and don't get to study medicine locally. And just because some of them enroll in IPTS, you can't say he's of a lower class doctor can you? In addition, are you saying only the richer & smarter ones get to be the best doctors? |
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jun 23 2008, 11:37 PM) onelove, i recall, was very naive and optimistic just a year ago, saying very confidently he is going to do medicine in oz...... nope, its basically their choice, no matter where you are. yeah I'm aware of that point. Thats why I said i will 'try' for ISAT =/ i only got 170/200, which is relatively low compared to others. So here, I will TRY for med schools in malaysia , If i cant get in then oh well. =) Reality is like that, and I know very clearly now. after a semester in perth, i am sure the realities are setting in, and he understands now what i meant when i said, you do NOT choose you med school.........they choose you.......at least in the 1st world like oz and uk.......... so looks like imu, pmc aimst etc are now real possibilities to consider.......unfortunately, they are where admission is as much decided on academic merit as financial ability.......and where now is the all important eq.......one wonders........ I think financial ability also plays a part. Monash representative in Melbourne told us that a lot of them dropped out because they can't afford the fees. QUOTE(edge85 @ Jun 24 2008, 02:17 AM) Judging from all your posts, you're all most probably future medical practitioners. Then what do you think that could be done to correct this problem? Of wanting both IQ & EQ in doctors. If this continues, manyak susah lor... Nah, I cant agree on the point of 'future medical practitioners' for me. I still don't know what is my path, but I'm trying out for medicine, if I cant get in,I'll go into other fields. =) Btw, you must also take into consideration, there are many lower/middle class top students who missed by an A in their STPM and don't get to study medicine locally. And just because some of them enroll in IPTS, you can't say he's of a lower class doctor can you? In addition, are you saying only the richer & smarter ones get to be the best doctors? Like u said, the era now wants doctors with both IQ and EQ. So, the last point saying 'only the richer and smarter ones get to be best doctors' is a bit contradicting. =) and personally I don't think that is the case. |
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it is relatively easy to get into ipts med schools in msia.....you should be able to get in one of them easily.....
ter 91 in imu.... ter 95 in monash msia ter 90 in pmc direct entry ter 85 in pmc premed all you need is some brains and lots of money....... whether you continue will depend on your performance.... imu failed 48/228 in me2/07..... |
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Jun 24 2008, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(edge85 @ Jun 24 2008, 02:17 AM) Judging from all your posts, you're all most probably future medical practitioners. Then what do you think that could be done to correct this problem? Of wanting both IQ & EQ in doctors. If this continues, manyak susah lor... Nothing can be done in Malaysia, unless the quota for bumis is removed. As long as the quota is there, the standard of education, not only in medicine but in all fields, will continue to deteriorate.Btw, you must also take into consideration, there are many lower/middle class top students who missed by an A in their STPM and don't get to study medicine locally. And just because some of them enroll in IPTS, you can't say he's of a lower class doctor can you? In addition, are you saying only the richer & smarter ones get to be the best doctors? In order to ensure all medical graduates are equally competent and safe, a National Medical Licensing Exam should be in place. However, this is almost next to impossible as there is just too much of politic involved. For the non-bumis, yes, only the richer but not necessarily smarter ones get to be doctors (with the exception of those sponsored by scholarship). Oh, damn, again we go way too off topic. Sorry. |
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Therefore the only thing a private medical school can do to increase the quality of doctors produced and to earn money at the same time, is to drop out students who can't cope with the curriculum itself. Drop up rates are higher if the entry requirement is lower, i presume. The curriculum should also be updated from time to time to follow the medical trend.
onelove89, ya can check out this site for more info on our present curriculum. http://www.aimst.edu.my/facultiesn/faculti...ils/medprog.asp Anyways, I believed i've learned alot from this forum regarding the medical profession. |
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QUOTE(csrulez @ Jun 24 2008, 12:15 PM) Therefore the only thing a private medical school can do to increase the quality of doctors produced and to earn money at the same time, is to drop out students who can't cope with the curriculum itself. Drop up rates are higher if the entry requirement is lower, i presume. The curriculum should also be updated from time to time to follow the medical trend. Not that easy. One main problem faced by all local private medical schools: shortage of lecturers. Therefore, they tend to import lecturers from India and Myanmar. This is, however, a temporary solution as we need Msian doctors to teach us how to deal with patients following Malaysian Protocol, not Indian or Burmese Protocol. I believe there's a shortage of quality lecturers in public Us too.onelove89, ya can check out this site for more info on our present curriculum. http://www.aimst.edu.my/facultiesn/faculti...ils/medprog.asp Anyways, I believed i've learned alot from this forum regarding the medical profession. Also, as i have stated before, meeting the minimum requirement doesn't necessarily guarantee a place. I am not sure about AIMST but in IMU and Manipal this is the case. Try applying IMU with SAM TER 85-90 and you'll definitely be rejected. For Manipal, it's very difficult to enter if you are not sponsored by JPA. In the latest batch, only less than 40 self funded students out of 120 students. The rest is all JPA sponsored. This post has been edited by hypermax: Jun 24 2008, 12:34 PM |
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QUOTE(hypermax @ Jun 24 2008, 11:38 AM) Nothing can be done in Malaysia, unless the quota for bumis is removed. As long as the quota is there, the standard of education, not only in medicine but in all fields, will continue to deteriorate. ah........finally someone pin point the root cause of the mess called the msian education system.......In order to ensure all medical graduates are equally competent and safe, a National Medical Licensing Exam should be in place. However, this is almost next to impossible as there is just too much of politic involved. For the non-bumis, yes, only the richer but not necessarily smarter ones get to be doctors (with the exception of those sponsored by scholarship). Oh, damn, again we go way too off topic. Sorry. what can you expect when mediocrity is used in an arena of human activity very much based on meritocracy.....? what happens you think in the coming beijing olympics, if some is allowed to take part in the 100m dash starting 10m ahead.........? This post has been edited by limeuu: Jun 24 2008, 12:49 PM |
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jun 24 2008, 12:27 PM) ah........finally someone pin point the root cause of the mess called the msian education system....... What to do. what can you expect when mediocrity is used in an arena of human activity very much based on meritocracy.....? However, this is not easy, and it depends very much on your determination and discipline. This post has been edited by hypermax: Jun 24 2008, 03:38 PM |
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Jun 28 2008, 01:18 AM
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I am from June batch foundation and well
quite nice here, i have no problems with my hostel and everything is fine |
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Jun 28 2008, 04:35 AM
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Welcome to AIMST. Good to know everything is fine.
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Jun 29 2008, 01:10 PM
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everyone come to AIMST
it was very good the tuition fees is cheap and the campus is quite huge plus beautiful. and the course in AIMST is already accredited by malaysia qualification agency(MQA) and ministry of health. dont worry about recognisation. if u still cannot afford for the tuition fees ptptn loan will help u to finance your study the campus are equip with beautiful garden makeup, the campus design is more like 4 star hotel than an institution if u dont believe u can go there for a visit the fresh air in AIMST also can make u study fresh to score full A. so what are u waiting for... This post has been edited by Dangaioh: Jun 29 2008, 01:19 PM |
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QUOTE(Dangaioh @ Jun 29 2008, 02:10 PM) everyone come to AIMST wow..that's a little hard sell. Hehe. it was very good the tuition fees is cheap and the campus is quite huge plus beautiful. and the course in AIMST is already accredited by malaysia qualification agency(MQA) and ministry of health. dont worry about recognisation. if u still cannot afford for the tuition fees ptptn loan will help u to finance your study the campus are equip with beautiful garden makeup, the campus design is more like 4 star hotel than an institution if u dont believe u can go there for a visit the fresh air in AIMST also can make u study fresh to score full A. so what are u waiting for... |
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kel003...can i knw wats ur name pls? i'm also in dis june batch foundation in science. I'm in class 2. Wat about u? R u a male or a female?
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QUOTE(Dangaioh @ Jun 29 2008, 01:10 PM) everyone come to AIMST I've never heard anybody who praises this place to THAT extent. Well, I'll agree with that too, but you missed out how cool the admins are =p. And the air ain't fresh all the time.it was very good the tuition fees is cheap and the campus is quite huge plus beautiful. and the course in AIMST is already accredited by malaysia qualification agency(MQA) and ministry of health. dont worry about recognisation. if u still cannot afford for the tuition fees ptptn loan will help u to finance your study the campus are equip with beautiful garden makeup, the campus design is more like 4 star hotel than an institution if u dont believe u can go there for a visit the fresh air in AIMST also can make u study fresh to score full A. so what are u waiting for... And hi Jace, you from Penang? Me too! =) |
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oh yeah edge85,i really miss up the admin.
the admin great hall has a special design like solid spider web hmm u see how rich is the AIMST it can hire such skillful architect to design on it but the structure is much more highclass if compare to the office of the secondary school at night when the admin lights on you mostly will feel suprise at which the admin has change to blue yellowish colour the first time i see it i take a photo on it immediately to show it to my friends the cafeteria also give a special facility it open until 2am i sometimes come out with my friends to buy burger at night there got sport hall and swimming pool u can spend ur leisure time with ur friend at there it was so much FUN to study in AIMST do u agree again edge85 so nothing to worry just study here man hmm im from kulim and also come in this june batch nice to meet u edge85 and jayelleenelial This post has been edited by Dangaioh: Jun 29 2008, 10:01 PM |
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QUOTE(Dangaioh @ Jun 29 2008, 09:56 PM) oh yeah edge85,i really miss up the admin. Uh, I actually don't agree with you. I hate the admins to the max. They're a bunch of pariah caste who... are just damn f***ing lansi ok. In addition, they're slow, they're messy, they err alot. Possibly they're not getting paid enough. Namely, the Examinations Division & the Student Affairs. the admin great hall has a special design like solid spider web hmm u see how rich is the AIMST it can hire such skillful architect to design on it but the structure is much more highclass if compare to the office of the secondary school at night when the admin lights on you mostly will feel suprise at which the admin has change to blue yellowish colour the first time i see it i take a photo on it immediately to show it to my friends the cafeteria also give a special facility it open until 2am i sometimes come out with my friends to buy burger at night there got sport hall and swimming pool u can spend ur leisure time with ur friend at there it was so much FUN to study in AIMST do u agree again edge85 so nothing to worry just study here man hmm im from kulim and also come in this june batch nice to meet u edge85 and jayelleenelial You'll learn about that in no time. =) Why didn't you pick IMU instead? It has gotta be better there. |
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Jun 30 2008, 01:59 PM
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uh my goodness egde85
u need not to throw a stone towards ur university verbally if u really not satisfy the admin at least u can say this university is "ok" ma... hmm i do not go imu because i dont want to study form6 are u form6 student? then i can skip one year here to go straight to degree (facility here right) in fact my brother will go to imu on this july to study Bpharm AIMST also quite good dont blame ur university okey |
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LOL. OMG, first time i'm hearing students praising AIMST to this extent. Welcome to aimst Dangaioh, but seriously you will find out how rude and inefficient is our admin staffs later on throughout your studies. AIMST is a good uni btw, minus minority of few staffs esp from SAD. Haha.
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Jun 30 2008, 05:22 PM
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lol agree with csrules. Take this as a preparation for the real world when you come across situations with the admin that makes you want to squish a kitten.
The english classes throughout your degree programme would be really useful too. |
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I think Dangaioh has connections in the uni...hmmm...
OR he's impersonating as a student. God knows. Btw, you can always take SAM or A Levels too. |
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Jun 30 2008, 11:29 PM
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lol edge85, the finals must be getting to you..
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i heard rumours about aimst going to be turned into a public university....is that true? Anyone who could clarify that? I chose aimst bcz i dont wanna study in a local public uni n now it's gonna bcm one...wat the f**ck man....(sorry for being so rude but I JUZ CANT HELP IT....grrrr....)
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QUOTE(Jace @ Jul 2 2008, 11:36 PM) i heard rumours about aimst going to be turned into a public university....is that true? Anyone who could clarify that? I chose aimst bcz i dont wanna study in a local public uni n now it's gonna bcm one...wat the f**ck man....(sorry for being so rude but I JUZ CANT HELP IT....grrrr....) if you're talking about how Samy Vellu and Najib were having a press conference about AIMST (as stated on one of the news channels a couple of evenings ago....I'm turning into an old woman, watching the news on telly..-__-) i think they meant that they have selected AIMST to protect the importance of the Indian community by giving out full scholarships to a fraction of the population to come study here. Which i think is a good move lah, if they are truly outstanding and are unable to get into the IPTAs due to quota issues. That's as far as I know about AIMST getting involved with anything related to public education. |
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Jul 3 2008, 03:19 AM
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These foundation students can be real annoying sometimes. Especially on how they behave at the study area, treating it like a McDonald's outlet.
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Jul 3 2008, 03:26 AM
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I've got something to share here...i know many ppl condemmed the cafeteria food, but seriously speaking, i feel that the vegetarian food is really yummmmyyyy.....i cant get used to the food here at 1st coz i dont eat chicken n the fish here really sucks (at home i only eat tofu)...so i opted the vegetarian food instead n it turned out to be really delicious...really love eating it n it's quite healthy too...
btw...i lost 6kg becoming a vegan |
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Yeah, I suppose cafeteria food has improved alot since these Jaya caterers came. But many say they suck because they're not used to Indian cuisines.
I love the roti sardin tho. I have to admit they proly have the best roti sardin in the northen region lol! |
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wahaha...i thought that i'm the only one who feel that the foundation students r quite annoying especially when they are "STUDYING" in study area....
they chat and laugh as they like...when other ppl use non verbal conversation by eyes to show their anger shaun,do u feel that??? This post has been edited by s`vine866: Jul 12 2008, 10:30 PM |
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Yeah, some form of regulation should be enforced. We should suggest this to the student council, who's no where to be found after the election.
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Jul 13 2008, 12:21 AM
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Jul 13 2008, 04:58 PM
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AIMST Founder and Director Board Page:
http://www.aimst.edu.my/other_pages/founder.htm Founder: YB Dato' Seri S Samy Vellu Got value AIMST paper? |
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Jul 13 2008, 08:45 PM
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What has the founder got to do with value of anything? All he did was contribute money to the university.
Lots of money. |
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S'vine866, Shirvine BPharm 3rd batch? LOL. Din expect you to register at lowyat.net. Yeahhhhhh, it should be a nice place to study but made worst by our beloved foundation mates. Nyways i prefer my room more. Hahaaa.
Got value AIMST paper? What does that mean? O.o |
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Jul 13 2008, 10:22 PM
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He's saying the degree here bo laku...
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Ohh i see. Seriously, what's the founder gotta do with the laku-ity of our degree. LOL.
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QUOTE(ark890 @ Jul 13 2008, 05:58 PM) AIMST Founder and Director Board Page: I challenge you to look up the qualifications of each and everyone of our lecturers. Then you may proceed to talk. http://www.aimst.edu.my/other_pages/founder.htm Founder: YB Dato' Seri S Samy Vellu Got value AIMST paper? |
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QUOTE(jayelleenelial @ Jul 13 2008, 11:07 PM) I challenge you to look up the qualifications of each and everyone of our lecturers. Then you may proceed to talk. How about me challenging you to deny that 9 / 10 lecturers in your university are indians?How about telling me how many of your lecturers got their bachelors degree from India? Do not count the foreign advisory council in.They are just paid to put their faces there for reputation just like Bill Gates being an advisor to the MSC project but does nothing. Microsoft made Singapore as its SEA HQ instead. This is an MIC initiative university created to take care of the Indian community in Malaysia. I don't think it is a wrong or my statement here touches any racial sentiments because the Chinese's MCA community does the same thing with UTAR so does the Malays. Added on July 14, 2008, 12:43 am QUOTE(csrulez @ Jul 13 2008, 10:58 PM) It has nothing to do with the founder but the current state of MIC is what you need to worry more about.This post has been edited by ark890: Jul 14 2008, 12:43 AM |
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QUOTE(ark890 @ Jul 14 2008, 01:40 AM) How about me challenging you to deny that 9 / 10 lecturers in your university are indians? Are you going to find fault in the quality of the lecturers based on their race?How about telling me how many of your lecturers got their bachelors degree from India? Do not count the foreign advisory council in.They are just paid to put their faces there for reputation just like Bill Gates being an advisor to the MSC project but does nothing. Microsoft made Singapore as its SEA HQ instead. This is an MIC initiative university created to take care of the Indian community in Malaysia. I don't think it is a wrong or my statement here touches any racial sentiments because the Chinese's MCA community does the same thing with UTAR so does the Malays. I don't see a problem, as long as their degrees are recognized. They are also PHD holders, don't forget that. For example, Dr. Somayagi and Prof. Maurya are both world renown professors. From the dental faculty, if you want to base credibility according to their race, then FINE. We've got a very colourful team of staffs on board and they all have excellent academic records and have world class universities on their resumes. I've seen more fantastic lecturers than lousy ones. The fantastic lecturers are those who come in and rattle off an entire chapter and do not need to refer to the book even once. Lousy ones are those who only know how to read from slides. Honestly, what's your beef with this uni being run by MIC and being founded by Samy Vellu? I, as a student, I look at it as an establishment that caters to deliver education to those who want to pursue it regardless of race, creed or colour. I acknowledge that it caters to the indian community. But the university has never adopted the quota system or I would not be here today. I am a Malaysian girl and I am pursuing the course of my dreams. With people like you, there will never be Malaysians but only malays, indians, chinese, kadazans, ibans, melanaus, punjabis etc. This post has been edited by jayelleenelial: Jul 14 2008, 01:04 AM |
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QUOTE(ark890 @ Jul 14 2008, 12:40 AM) It has nothing to do with the founder but the current state of MIC is what you need to worry more about. Why do we have to worry about it? The university is fully set up, and MIC is not the sole contributor of AIMST's funds.And so what if they got their degrees from India? I know many Malaysian practitioners who graduated from India, and they're all doing fine. So are my lecturers. Please think before you make accusations. Otherwise it makes you look stupid. |
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QUOTE(jayelleenelial @ Jul 14 2008, 01:01 AM) Are you going to find fault in the quality of the lecturers based on their race? Samy V, has been questioned repeatedly about AIMST by his MIC board in meetings after his lost in the general elections.It seems they want him to be clear about AIMST's directions and its continued fundings.I don't see a problem, as long as their degrees are recognized. They are also PHD holders, don't forget that. For example, Dr. Somayagi and Prof. Maurya are both world renown professors. From the dental faculty, if you want to base credibility according to their race, then FINE. We've got a very colourful team of staffs on board and they all have excellent academic records and have world class universities on their resumes. I've seen more fantastic lecturers than lousy ones. The fantastic lecturers are those who come in and rattle off an entire chapter and do not need to refer to the book even once. Lousy ones are those who only know how to read from slides. Honestly, what's your beef with this uni being run by MIC and being founded by Samy Vellu? I, as a student, I look at it as an establishment that caters to deliver education to those who want to pursue it regardless of race, creed or colour. I acknowledge that it caters to the indian community. But the university has never adopted the quota system or I would not be here today. I am a Malaysian girl and I am pursuing the course of my dreams. With people like you, there will never be Malaysians but only malays, indians, chinese, kadazans, ibans, melanaus, punjabis etc. With majority of indians being lecturers there, do they practice equal favour when marking papers to other races? How do you define standard when you have yet to experience and compare lectures from people of other races?Just because they tell you they're good, you believe every word? |
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QUOTE(ark890 @ Jul 14 2008, 03:00 AM) Samy V, has been questioned repeatedly about AIMST by his MIC board in meetings after his lost in the general elections.It seems they want him to be clear about AIMST's directions and its continued fundings. Are you a cat? Do you have nine lives to live through kindergarten up to university to experience a plethora of lecturers from all corners of the world?With majority of indians being lecturers there, do they practice equal favour when marking papers to other races? How do you define standard when you have yet to experience and compare lectures from people of other races?Just because they tell you they're good, you believe every word? If you can ask me if I have yet to experience and compare lecturers, I can ask you this: Have you had your paper marked by the lecturer at my university? same shit right? Also, does the word ID Number means anything to you? If my lecturer is so free as to scour through the exams division's lists of students and their associated ID numbers, then they must really hate other races. Which I believe would not be practiced here. Unlike you. Please be more civilized. We have questioned this before, about Samy Vellu losing his seat during the elections. We have been told by a reliable source(no need for you to counter), that the two issues are mutually exclusive. |
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QUOTE(jayelleenelial @ Jul 14 2008, 02:07 AM) Are you a cat? Do you have nine lives to live through kindergarten up to university to experience a plethora of lecturers from all corners of the world? You definitely do not need 9 lives for that.A good university with mixed lecturers from all types of races should allow you to experience that which is not the case for AIMST.If you can ask me if I have yet to experience and compare lecturers, I can ask you this: Have you had your paper marked by the lecturer at my university? same shit right? Also, does the word ID Number means anything to you? If my lecturer is so free as to scour through the exams division's lists of students and their associated ID numbers, then they must really hate other races. Which I believe would not be practiced here. Unlike you. Please be more civilized. We have questioned this before, about Samy Vellu losing his seat during the elections. We have been told by a reliable source(no need for you to counter), that the two issues are mutually exclusive. You were the one who said that your lecturers were top notch.I see the need for you to convince me on that instead of the other way around.Coming from what you said earlier about relying on lecturers who do not rely on books and slides to teach is not convincing enough.It only shows that if you can pass your exams just by taking down lecture notes and memorizing them is no different from the act of spoon feeding.That is no different from secondary school days. ID to identify individuals without revealing their race?Wow that's interesting.Do you even write down your name on your exam sheet of papers?Why do they even implement such conditions unless it's really true that people discriminate? This post has been edited by ark890: Jul 14 2008, 02:42 AM |
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QUOTE(ark890 @ Jul 14 2008, 03:38 AM) You definitely do not need 9 lives for that.A good university with a mixed blend good of lecturers from all types of races should allow you to experience that. I think you are getting sleepy. Your sentence structure is seriously sucking. QUOTE You were the one who said that your lecturers were top notch.I see the need for you to convince me on that instead of the other way around.Coming from what you said earlier about relying on lecturers who do not rely on books and slides to teach is not convincing enough.It only shows that if you can pass your exams just by taking down lecture notes and memorizing them is no different from the act of spoon feeding. Again, you are assuming. Maybe you should just stick to your Samy Vellu bashing seeing as that is your only ammo. Till the day we get bad press about the way studies are conducted OR if any of our graduates made a boo-boo in his respective field, then we may continue this conversation. Till you see results(or lack of it), then you judge. I feel it is pointless for you to argue with me about the credibility of my lecturers. But because I missed out on a few things when I talked about my colourful lecturers from my faculty: My dean himself was the dean of the school of dentistry of Hong Kong University. He helped set up the school of dentistry there alongside the help of his assistant dean back then who also transferred over here to join him. Before that, he was the dean at The London Hospital dental School. We've got an Indonesian professor on board, a chinese ex-NUS lecturer who is teaching us orthodontics, two malay dental tech lecturers, two indian clinical lecturers, a Malay lady who is a retiree from the Ministry Of Oral health and is currently our Dental Public Health lecturer, one indian local anesthesia lecturer and a few others who are taking care of the other years. Oh, and two white lecturers who have beautiful resumes who are our Oral Physiology/Biochemistry lecturer and our Oral Microanatomy lecturer. Please say the word Indian again. Also, are you clear about the way I study? Are you sure that the only way I study is by memorizing? Maybe I need to take a photo of all the books I bought in my room that I refer to when I use my slides as headlines. Don't judge me if you don't know my studying style. QUOTE ID to identify individuals without revealing their race?Wow that's interesting.Do you even write down your name on your exam sheet of papers?Why do they even implement such conditions unless it's really true that people discriminate? .... ok, I don't think I've got alzheimers and I've only sat for my last yr3 final paper like three weeks ago. I clearly remember that I only had to write my ID Number, the date and the subject of the paper. My dear, please get your facts right before laughing. This post has been edited by jayelleenelial: Jul 14 2008, 03:04 AM |
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Jul 14 2008, 03:02 AM
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QUOTE(ark890 @ Jul 14 2008, 02:38 AM) You definitely do not need 9 lives for that.A good university with a mixed blend good of lecturers from all types of races should allow you to experience that. Hey, how come only she gets replied! I'm STILL waiting for mine.You were the one who said that your lecturers were top notch.I see the need for you to convince me on that instead of the other way around.Coming from what you said earlier about relying on lecturers who do not rely on books and slides to teach is not convincing enough.It only shows that if you can pass your exams just by taking down lecture notes and memorizing them is no different from the act of spoon feeding. ID to identify individuals without revealing their race?Wow that's interesting.Do you even write down your name on your exam sheet of papers?Why do they even implement such conditions unless it's really true that people discriminate? Spoon feeding? I think that happens in most parts of Asia. BUT, mind you we have PBL. Lots and lots of PBL. Half of our dental lecturers are Brits, so we do get the best of both worlds. And it's the clinical phase which will really determine how good you are. And come on, the ID system is for confidentiality and official purposes. As professionals, would discriminating do any good to any party? I don't think so. It's not that the lecturer will win what, more votes? i.e. there's no reason for discrimination at university levels (I don't know about IPTAs tho). Besides, 80% of my batchmates are Chinese. And everyone is doing fairly fine. Speaking of discrimination, aren't you a Malaysian? Get used to it. Isn't it obvious that you're now turning to English. Running dry on Google-facts? Whatever happened to Sami Vellu lol... Anyway, maybe you like facts. Here's our dean. Try this: http://www.nature.com/bdj/journal/v186/n4/full/4800050a.html if it means anything at all. |
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Jul 14 2008, 04:14 AM
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QUOTE(jayelleenelial @ Jul 14 2008, 03:02 AM) I think you are getting sleepy. Your sentence structure is seriously sucking. My sentence structure sucking and how does it not sound nice to you? You're the one who started comparing the life of cats Again, you are assuming. Maybe you should just stick to your Samy Vellu bashing seeing as that is your only ammo. Till the day we get bad press about the way studies are conducted OR if any of our graduates made a boo-boo in his respective field, then we may continue this conversation. Till you see results(or lack of it), then you judge. I feel it is pointless for you to argue with me about the credibility of my lecturers. But because I missed out on a few things when I talked about my colourful lecturers from my faculty: My dean himself was the dean of the school of dentistry of Hong Kong University. He helped set up the school of dentistry there alongside the help of his assistant dean back then who also transferred over here to join him. Before that, he was the dean at The London Hospital dental School. We've got an Indonesian professor on board, a chinese ex-NUS lecturer who is teaching us orthodontics, two malay dental tech lecturers, two indian clinical lecturers, a Malay lady who is a retiree from the Ministry Of Oral health and is currently our Dental Public Health lecturer, one indian local anesthesia lecturer and a few others who are taking care of the other years. Oh, and two white lecturers who have beautiful resumes who are our Oral Physiology/Biochemistry lecturer and our Oral Microanatomy lecturer. Please say the word Indian again. Also, are you clear about the way I study? Are you sure that the only way I study is by memorizing? Maybe I need to take a photo of all the books I bought in my room that I refer to when I use my slides as headlines. Don't judge me if you don't know my studying style. .... ok, I don't think I've got alzheimers and I've only sat for my last yr3 final paper like three weeks ago. I clearly remember that I only had to write my ID Number, the date and the subject of the paper. My dear, please get your facts right before laughing. For once I agree about not arguing with you about your lecturers accomplishments.Most universities would have a dean in their respective academic departments with impressive track records. Appreciate the effort in detailed breakdown of your dentistry academic department up there but how about the medical/surgery dept.? Tell me if MIC is not the main fund raiser for your university then where did they get their funds from? About your way of studying who dares question your method?Read carefully again what I've said.I did not refer nor I said it was your method of studying directly in my last post.I said "if" you can manage passes by just depending entirely on lectures it makes the situation no different than spoon feeding.Got it? You really need sleep, the impulsive temper is deterring you from debating with openly with me with a clear state of mind. I'm not questioning your memory or anything but when you have requirements like referring students with ID only makes it seems like something amidst.It's not without flaws though.What makes you think that your student database is secure enough not for them to do look-ups? Added on July 14, 2008, 4:24 am QUOTE(edge85 @ Jul 14 2008, 03:02 AM) Hey, how come only she gets replied! I'm STILL waiting for mine. Sorry for not answering your 2nd last post previously.Spoon feeding? I think that happens in most parts of Asia. BUT, mind you we have PBL. Lots and lots of PBL. Half of our dental lecturers are Brits, so we do get the best of both worlds. And it's the clinical phase which will really determine how good you are. And come on, the ID system is for confidentiality and official purposes. As professionals, would discriminating do any good to any party? I don't think so. It's not that the lecturer will win what, more votes? i.e. there's no reason for discrimination at university levels (I don't know about IPTAs tho). Besides, 80% of my batchmates are Chinese. And everyone is doing fairly fine. Speaking of discrimination, aren't you a Malaysian? Get used to it. Isn't it obvious that you're now turning to English. Running dry on Google-facts? Whatever happened to Sami Vellu lol... Anyway, maybe you like facts. Here's our dean. Try this: http://www.nature.com/bdj/journal/v186/n4/full/4800050a.html if it means anything at all. I did not want to answer because I felt it was unnecessary to condemn the indian medical standards and further cause racial tensions. There's been a whole lot of cases happening in the world recently.Haven't you heard? Recently an indian surgeon in the US operated on a patient's wrong lung? http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/In...ng-lung/328213/ Have you heard of Dr. Death from Australia who was responsible for the lives of 17 people with his wrong diagnosis? Have you heard of organ selling trades? There you go..for the reasons I lost trust in Indian medical standards. This post has been edited by ark890: Jul 14 2008, 04:28 AM |
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Jul 18 2008, 11:09 AM
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edge85, which course r u in? Medic or dentistry? 80% chinese? that's nice...i feel dat aimst's students r nice, we dont c colourful heads everywhere like in other colleges n uni. They never ponteng BUT the lecturers to ponteng very much.............they suka suka cancel class n then din even gif us a good reason for that. N when they replace classes, they never check whether the classroom is available or not. Juz ask us go there n then we kena kicked out bcz there's other ppl using it. Then we hav 2 go bec 2 our hostel...dam wasting time la....i hope da degree lecturers are not like that...
i'm thinking of changing to manipal. I heard da t aimst's foundation cert is accepted byu manipal n i can go there for my degree. Is dat true? |
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Jul 18 2008, 11:52 PM
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Hey Jace,
Am not sure how your foundation lecturers are doing over there, but i can gurantee that the degree lecturers are not like that. Lectures posponed are quite unusual but it still happens due to certain circumstances. But all the classes will be replaced accordingly, no worries on missing out on the syllabus. Foundation wise i'm not too sure, but i think self study will be more useful cause that's what we used to do during out foundation times. Used to ponteng alot cause of the boring lectures. Hahaa. Anyways yeah, AIMST Foundation cert is recognised in Manipal/MMMC. In fact, few of my foundation mates have decided to pursue their medical course there and they've just finished their first year there. But i find no point in transferring to Manipal as AIMST is already like a "Manipal in Malaysia". Most of the medical lecturers are originated from India, and their good at their respective fields. Besides that, we've a mix of local, Mauritius, UK, Ireland etc lecturers. Plus, why pay 80k more when you can get the same recognised MBBS degree. Haha. Just my humble opinion. This post has been edited by csrulez: Jul 19 2008, 12:02 AM |
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Jul 19 2008, 04:58 AM
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QUOTE(ark890 @ Jul 14 2008, 04:14 AM) Sorry for not answering your 2nd last post previously. There're bound to be black sheeps where ever you go la. It's not fair to judge a race just because of one person's fault. Operating in the wrong lung; you can't blame his school for that. If he's a surgeon, he must've did his post grad somewhere but not from India. Plus, the surgery must have been performed by a group of professionals. But still, yeah it's his fault la.I did not want to answer because I felt it was unnecessary to condemn the indian medical standards and further cause racial tensions. There's been a whole lot of cases happening in the world recently.Haven't you heard? Recently an indian surgeon in the US operated on a patient's wrong lung? http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/In...ng-lung/328213/ Have you heard of Dr. Death from Australia who was responsible for the lives of 17 people with his wrong diagnosis? Have you heard of organ selling trades? There you go..for the reasons I lost trust in Indian medical standards. Following all your previous post, you must a god damned racist. I wouldn't dare to admit that the Caucasians are flawless too. QUOTE(Jace @ Jul 18 2008, 11:09 AM) edge85, which course r u in? Medic or dentistry? 80% chinese? that's nice...i feel dat aimst's students r nice, we dont c colourful heads everywhere like in other colleges n uni. They never ponteng BUT the lecturers to ponteng very much.............they suka suka cancel class n then din even gif us a good reason for that. N when they replace classes, they never check whether the classroom is available or not. Juz ask us go there n then we kena kicked out bcz there's other ppl using it. Then we hav 2 go bec 2 our hostel...dam wasting time la....i hope da degree lecturers are not like that... I guess that's why AIMST foundation, I have to admit la...suck balls. Au contraire, the degree ones are a total opposite. Guess you'll just have to bear with that, or write into a newspaper so they'll wake up. I see the students also pek chek. These people wanna be doctors? WHY MUST EVERYBODY WANT TO BE DOCTORS?! Sien lan douz.i'm thinking of changing to manipal. I heard da t aimst's foundation cert is accepted byu manipal n i can go there for my degree. Is dat true? Yes, I do teeth. |
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Jul 23 2008, 01:25 PM
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oic...i'm also planning to take up dentistry after my foundation. So how's da course? is it ok? lecturers ok ? I was talking to a dentistry 1st yr student d other day. She said most of the lecturers r britons?? n she told me her yr not much frm foundation. Mostly are frm stpm or a-levels. I really hope nobody frm foundation wanna take up dentistry nex yr then i dnt hav to compete for a place...muahahahaha....
i got a question tho...if those who took up foundation n then cant get into the degree courses then how? there r arnd 600 students in dis yr's foundation n there's only 120places for medic, 60 for dentistry, 60 for pharmacy n dunno how much for biotech. So the remaining who cant get a place where do they go ??? i'm really curious lol.... And, is da foundation exam hard? my lecturers make it sounds soooo hard...i'm starting to worry now...T.T |
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Jul 23 2008, 02:08 PM
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200 for medic starting next year, 50 for BDS, 50 for pharm and unlimited for biotech. But places will be increased, just that we're not sure when. You know aimst. Haha.
And no worries of not getting into the degree programmes as long as you've fulfilled the minimum requirement, 215 for medic, 195 for dent and 175 for pharm if i've not remembered wrongly. Just that you need to compete for the earliest intake, else you'll be placed on the waiting list which you need to wait for a year for the next intake. And every year, though there are many foundation students, to be true many did not come back for aimst's degree programme. Reasons being not qualified, ran to other unis or repeating the foundation programme. Like my batch, April 06/07. Out of 240 students, only 50+ came back for medic, around 15+ for dent and 30+ for pharm. So no worries on not getting a place, just study hard, get your results and your place will be secured for sure. Foundation exam is not tough if compared to STPM, A levels etc, what we always do during our time was last minute studies. Find it really effective but pls, don't learn. Still, have lotsa fun during your foundation, things will be no longer the same when you come to degree. Haha. Well, just follow the lecture notes, do abit of practices esp on chem and maths, you will definitely have no problem in scoring even an A+ for the final examination. Don't make it tough for yourself, trust your ability and don't listen to how the lecturer scares you. Believe in yourself. =) |
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Jul 23 2008, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE(Jace @ Jul 23 2008, 02:25 PM) oic...i'm also planning to take up dentistry after my foundation. So how's da course? is it ok? lecturers ok ? I was talking to a dentistry 1st yr student d other day. She said most of the lecturers r britons?? n she told me her yr not much frm foundation. Mostly are frm stpm or a-levels. I really hope nobody frm foundation wanna take up dentistry nex yr then i dnt hav to compete for a place...muahahahaha.... Hi future Junior! i got a question tho...if those who took up foundation n then cant get into the degree courses then how? there r arnd 600 students in dis yr's foundation n there's only 120places for medic, 60 for dentistry, 60 for pharmacy n dunno how much for biotech. So the remaining who cant get a place where do they go ??? i'm really curious lol.... And, is da foundation exam hard? my lecturers make it sounds soooo hard...i'm starting to worry now...T.T The course will be even better by the time your batch comes around. The lectueres are all very dedicated and with them, you will feel like you're one big family. they all know us by name and we exchange jokes..basically it's very easy going if you're wondering how they are. Professionally, they also know their stuff. In Year1, we are not that close to our lecturers as they are from the medical faculty but with super amazing qualifications to intimidate us. So you are in good hands. it's true that most are from STPM..not too sure about A-levels. I'm from A-levels though:) Yeah, this year only 16 people from matriculation in the 4th batch. They are doing their pre-dentistry course as of now. I heard that the places for dentistry has been upped to 75!! Quite crazy, but good also lah for those who are interested to pursue the course. My classmates and I make up 37. The two other junior batches have 50 students each. If you have anymore questions, just ask. |
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Yeah, lecturers here at aimst seriously know their stuffs, no doubt on that. Today we have this inspiring talk by a well known young cardiothoracic surgeon, Eric Lim from UK. And guess what, he's actually a student of our current VC, Prof Geoffrey Smith! Just got to know that our VC's actually a Professor of Cardiac Surgery from University of Sheffield with 30 years of experience in cardiothoracic surgery and heart transplant. Plus, he was the ex-president for the Cardiothoracic Surgeons Society of Great Britain and Ireland and visiting academician for unis in the Middle East and Sweeden as well. It kind of surprised me.
Therefore, the only thing i can tell you here is that, AIMST is no doubt a great uni filled with great people. I'm glad to be here and will definitely be proud to graduate as an AIMST doctor anytime soon in the future. =) This post has been edited by csrulez: Jul 23 2008, 11:32 PM |
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Jul 24 2008, 03:25 AM
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QUOTE(csrulez @ Jul 23 2008, 02:08 PM) 200 for medic starting next year, 50 for BDS, 50 for pharm and unlimited for biotech. But places will be increased, just that we're not sure when. You know aimst. Haha. No wonder people say our foundation intake is dubious. Last minute studying also can get thru.And no worries of not getting into the degree programmes as long as you've fulfilled the minimum requirement, 215 for medic, 195 for dent and 175 for pharm if i've not remembered wrongly. Just that you need to compete for the earliest intake, else you'll be placed on the waiting list which you need to wait for a year for the next intake. And every year, though there are many foundation students, to be true many did not come back for aimst's degree programme. Reasons being not qualified, ran to other unis or repeating the foundation programme. Like my batch, April 06/07. Out of 240 students, only 50+ came back for medic, around 15+ for dent and 30+ for pharm. So no worries on not getting a place, just study hard, get your results and your place will be secured for sure. Foundation exam is not tough if compared to STPM, A levels etc, what we always do during our time was last minute studies. Find it really effective but pls, don't learn. Still, have lotsa fun during your foundation, things will be no longer the same when you come to degree. Haha. Well, just follow the lecture notes, do abit of practices esp on chem and maths, you will definitely have no problem in scoring even an A+ for the final examination. Don't make it tough for yourself, trust your ability and don't listen to how the lecturer scares you. Believe in yourself. =) |
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QUOTE(edge85 @ Jul 24 2008, 03:25 AM) it's unbenchmarked, and thus of unknown standard and ranking.......not cross recognised by most other uni....especially for popular courses like health sciences.....somewhat like the gov matrik...... |
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Jul 24 2008, 01:36 PM
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Yup, i admit that our own foundation prgramme has no standard at all if compared to other qualifications like STPM, A levels etc. It's probably even easier to get through if compared to the govt matrix, but the thing is at least it has prepared me well for my current degree programme. I do not find any prob in understanding anything throughout my course till now. After all, that's what a pre-u course is all about right? =)
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Jul 24 2008, 08:08 PM
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Then that makes these graduates more inferior right? Hopefully the degree programme gets more difficult as it progresses to filter out the really inferior ones.
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Jul 24 2008, 10:34 PM
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Yeah definitely, the degree programmes are no longer like the foundation. No more honeymoon-ing. There are quite a number of dropouts especially in year one, approximately 10-20% per intake. No more last minutes.
Btw, the long awaited opening ceremony of our campus will most prolly fall on the 17th of August. Our PM, Badawi will be here to officiate the ceremony. That's the info i got from the MMC and MQA ppl during the high tea this morning. FYI. |
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Jul 25 2008, 11:36 AM
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Apparently he's gonna be visiting three places in particular; the anatomy museum, the dental clinic, and dunno-what. Too bad we're all having our summer holidays now heh.
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Jul 25 2008, 12:28 PM
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the pioneer batch is asked to come back to stand in the clinic in our full scrubs and shake hands with badawi.
I'll be in Langkawi man. |
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Jul 25 2008, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(ark890 @ Jul 14 2008, 04:14 AM) My sentence structure sucking and how does it not sound nice to you? You're the one who started comparing the life of cats Conclusion, you are a bloody racist who knows nothing about medicine yet wanna act like you know a lot. For once I agree about not arguing with you about your lecturers accomplishments.Most universities would have a dean in their respective academic departments with impressive track records. Appreciate the effort in detailed breakdown of your dentistry academic department up there but how about the medical/surgery dept.? Tell me if MIC is not the main fund raiser for your university then where did they get their funds from? About your way of studying who dares question your method?Read carefully again what I've said.I did not refer nor I said it was your method of studying directly in my last post.I said "if" you can manage passes by just depending entirely on lectures it makes the situation no different than spoon feeding.Got it? You really need sleep, the impulsive temper is deterring you from debating with openly with me with a clear state of mind. I'm not questioning your memory or anything but when you have requirements like referring students with ID only makes it seems like something amidst.It's not without flaws though.What makes you think that your student database is secure enough not for them to do look-ups? Added on July 14, 2008, 4:24 am Sorry for not answering your 2nd last post previously. I did not want to answer because I felt it was unnecessary to condemn the indian medical standards and further cause racial tensions. There's been a whole lot of cases happening in the world recently.Haven't you heard? Recently an indian surgeon in the US operated on a patient's wrong lung? http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/In...ng-lung/328213/ Have you heard of Dr. Death from Australia who was responsible for the lives of 17 people with his wrong diagnosis? Have you heard of organ selling trades? There you go..for the reasons I lost trust in Indian medical standards. Come on, since when the quality of medical education depends on the race of the lecturers? I bet you haven't been to gov hospital. Many Malay and Chinese doctors screwed up as well. This post has been edited by hypermax: Jul 25 2008, 01:40 PM |
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Aug 6 2008, 05:44 PM
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I agree with hypermax.
Nyways, quoted from NST 2008/08/06. " Earlier, the MIC chief announced that Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi would open the party's Asian Institute of Medicine, Science and Technology in Semeling, Kedah, on Aug 17. He said the RM500 million AIMST would hold its first convocation in October this year with about 300 medical and bio-technology graduands. " At last, i'd say. Haha. This post has been edited by csrulez: Aug 6 2008, 05:48 PM |
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Aug 7 2008, 07:53 PM
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um, can i ask something? is AIMST cert only recognised in malaysia? and can I have a lil more info regarding the lecturers and the study environment? =) Thanks~
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Aug 7 2008, 08:05 PM
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Erm, depends which course u're interested in. So far all the courses here are accredited by MQA (Malaysia Qualification Agency) and our med degree/ MBBS is recognised by MOH and MMC. 3 Batches are already out and the 4th has currently finished their elective postings and is waiting for interviews by JPA.
Lecturers wise, good and quite experienced. Mostly indians with a mixed of locals, a few clinical lects from uk etc. Study environment, i'd also say dat it's not bad. Due to the lack of entertainment outlets around this place and also we've got very good facillities around. AIMST people, mind to explain further? Haha. |
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Aug 7 2008, 08:17 PM
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One thing weird about AIMST is, its degree has yet to be listed in IMED, which means a grad of AIMST cannot take licensing exams like USMLE and PLAB. Normally, once the medical school is recognized by the respective country, it will be listed in IMED.
IMED Btw, PMC is not listed under Malaysia, but Ireland. So it's an Irish degree. This post has been edited by hypermax: Aug 7 2008, 08:20 PM |
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That's the thing. USMLE, i was thinking of taking Step 1 after my pre-clinicals year. Is it possible to do so? And yeah, i'm not sure about the international recognition of AIMST too. Probably it's a really new med school, therefore not on the list? Am really not sure about it.
This site provides list of universities recognised by MMC tho, updated on 23th of June 08. http://mmc.gov.my/v1/docs/Jadual_Kedua.pdf |
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QUOTE(csrulez @ Aug 7 2008, 08:26 PM) That's the thing. USMLE, i was thinking of taking Step 1 after my pre-clinicals year. Is it possible to do so? And yeah, i'm not sure about the international recognition of AIMST too. Probably it's a really new med school, therefore not on the list? Am really not sure about it. AIMST is definitely recognized by Msia, however, currently not by other international regulatory bodies. As long as your school is not listed in IMED, you cannot take either USMLE or PLAB. I think you better ask your dean regarding this issue.This site provides list of universities recognised by MMC tho, updated on 23th of June 08. http://mmc.gov.my/v1/docs/Jadual_Kedua.pdf This post has been edited by hypermax: Aug 7 2008, 08:43 PM |
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may i know what is USMLE and PLAB? thanks
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Aug 7 2008, 09:38 PM) USMLE: United States Medical Licensing Examination. An examination you must sit and pass to be eligible to work in the US.PLAB: Professional and Linguistic Assessments Board. Similar, but for the UK. Lol PMC offers an Irish degree? How cool is that. haha. But it isn't recognised by Ireland itself right? |
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say if you're cert only allow you to work in msia , then we can only get to specialize in msia? How does the specializing thing works? I don really understand this part. can I go overseas like US to take a course to specialise in say cardiology? sorry =/ heaps of questions.
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Aug 8 2008, 01:14 PM) say if you're cert only allow you to work in msia , then we can only get to specialize in msia? How does the specializing thing works? I don really understand this part. can I go overseas like US to take a course to specialise in say cardiology? sorry =/ heaps of questions. Firstly, to specialise in Msia is not an easy thing for a non-Bumi.And the best choice u have outside Msia is US, with the developed English speaking countries (Aus, UK) closing their doors to foreign medical graduates. And it's not easy to go US either, and do take note, the applications to their residency come from graduates of some of the best medskols in the world, eg Edin, Glasgow, Melbourne, Queensland.....so an applicant from a less well-knowned and newly built medskols (most private medskols in msia are) really got to present with strong USMLE grades. But it would be better if u r holding US citizenship, which i assume u r not. |
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Aug 8 2008, 01:14 PM) say if you're cert only allow you to work in msia , then we can only get to specialize in msia? How does the specializing thing works? I don really understand this part. can I go overseas like US to take a course to specialise in say cardiology? sorry =/ heaps of questions. You have yet to graduate, and you already dreaming too far. You watch too much med dramas? Please, finish your first 5 years before anything else.This post has been edited by edge85: Aug 8 2008, 03:32 PM |
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there is a very good reason why parents, and students, pay a large fortune to study medicine in 1st world countries and obtain an internationally recognised qualification........it increases you mobility and marketability......
of course it makes little difference if you just want to stay back in msia and slog it out...... Added on August 8, 2008, 3:39 pm QUOTE(edge85 @ Aug 8 2008, 03:30 PM) You have yet to graduate, and you already dreaming too far. You watch too much med dramas? Please, finish your first 5 years before anything else. onelove is not wrong........these are questions any sensible potential student have to ask, or should have the background knowledge of his potential course and profession to be able to identify the issues.....because it would be too late when you start and get stucked in a programme with restricted options.....contrary to the accusations about me bashing some med schools, i am just trying to raise the relevant issues so all will know the problems and go into their chosen med schools with their eyes wide open.......been there, done all that, and just trying to help.......it's up to you all to face the issues, or be an ostridge......and pretend your choice is honky dory....... This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 8 2008, 03:41 PM |
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But in the end, does anyone think it's worth the large sum of money to study in 1st world med schools? After all, when can you earn back the money you spent in medical education? Unless you have shit load of moolah or on scholarship, i dun think it's worth studying in 1st world med schools, even though you have secured a seat.
Btw, one can always take up MRCP exam later. Once you have obtained MRCP, you can apply for further postgraduate training in Ireland. Also, you will have a better chance of securing a training post in USA or Canada. In addition, i dun think OZ has closed door on the International Medical Graduates. In fact, they are currently in need of doctors, and they are setting up centers for AMC exam in India. This might change, however, in the upcoming years as OZ med schools will be producing a large amount of doctors soon as one of the forummer pointed out. |
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QUOTE(hypermax @ Aug 8 2008, 03:54 PM) But in the end, does anyone think it's worth the large sum of money to study in 1st world med schools? After all, when can you earn back the money you spent in medical education? Unless you have shit load of moolah or on scholarship, i dun think it's worth studying in 1st world med schools, even though you have secured a seat. now you are quoting from me... Btw, one can always take up MRCP exam later. Once you have obtained MRCP, you can apply for further postgraduate training in Ireland. Also, you will have a better chance of securing a training post in USA or Canada. In addition, i dun think OZ has closed door on the International Medical Graduates. In fact, they are currently in need of doctors, and they are setting up centers for AMC exam in India. This might change, however, in the upcoming years as OZ med schools will be producing a large amount of doctors soon as one of the forummer pointed out. those who cannot study in 1st world countries for whatever reasons always justify like that lah.....'not worth it'......but based on the number of parents and students from all over the world trying to get into oz/uk med schools paying full fees.......obvious this is not the case........ oh, oz is definitely closed to international medical graduates except from uk/canada.....you can always sit for the amc exams of course........good luck.....they do however recruit senior GP's from commonwealth countries to man rural clinics, where there is a severe shortage, initially they will give a temporary registration........ |
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Aug 8 2008, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Aug 8 2008, 05:29 PM) now you are quoting from me... Of course everyone wants to get into one of those prestigious first world schools. I actually had a chance to go abroad (RCSI, IMU-PMS) for my medical studies but decided not to go as the fee is high. And as i have stated before, one can always join a 1st world school if he/she has shit loads of money or on scholarship.those who cannot study in 1st world countries for whatever reasons always justify like that lah.....'not worth it'......but based on the number of parents and students from all over the world trying to get into oz/uk med schools paying full fees.......obvious this is not the case........ oh, oz is definitely closed to international medical graduates except from uk/canada.....you can always sit for the amc exams of course........good luck.....they do however recruit senior GP's from commonwealth countries to man rural clinics, where there is a severe shortage, initially they will give a temporary registration........ Well, every licensing exam is tough, even Malaysian Qualifying Exam is. So as long as you are good, there should be no problem for you. Look, i am not being a sour grape, i am only stating the fact. Not everyone can spend like a million ringgit just for education. Pls try to understand the current situation before branding me to be a sour grape. What's wrong with quoting from you? This post has been edited by hypermax: Aug 8 2008, 06:23 PM |
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Aug 8 2008, 06:35 PM
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How long do you think one has to take to earn back the one million ringgit? I don't think my parents can live that long for me to fully repay them back.
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Aug 8 2008, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(edge85 @ Aug 8 2008, 06:35 PM) How long do you think one has to take to earn back the one million ringgit? I don't think my parents can live that long for me to fully repay them back. That's exactly my point, yet someone branded me as sour grape. Btw, aren't you curious where limeuu graduated from? It has seriously remained a mystery for a long time. Everyone who participated in the thread had sort of introduced themselves, except for him. I wonder why |
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Aug 8 2008, 07:39 PM
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Beats me. IMU perhaps?
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Aug 8 2008, 07:49 PM
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continue to guess........
clue #1: 3rd world........ |
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Aug 8 2008, 07:56 PM
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either india or msia, but i think most probably msia.
right? This post has been edited by wgy589: Aug 8 2008, 07:57 PM |
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Aug 8 2008, 07:59 PM
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clue #2: fully registerable with gmc
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Aug 8 2008, 08:04 PM
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UM?
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Aug 8 2008, 08:13 PM
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um is NOT gmc registrable.......now........
Added on August 8, 2008, 8:15 pmclue #3: >100 years history.......different names of course..... This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 8 2008, 08:15 PM |
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i just can't tink of any 3rd world medskols that are "fully registerable with gmc"
Added on August 8, 2008, 8:24 pmorh, some medskols in EU? This post has been edited by wgy589: Aug 8 2008, 08:24 PM |
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was.......
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Aug 8 2008, 08:28 PM
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If fully registrable with GMC, what are you doing in Msia then?
Wasn't aware of a school from 3rd world that is fully registrable with GMC. If not, i would have been there. Btw, are you a specialist? |
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Aug 8 2008, 08:30 PM
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gmc recognised/recognises several former colonies med schools......
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Aug 8 2008, 08:35 PM
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Aug 8 2008, 08:43 PM
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aiya, den India lor
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Aug 8 2008, 08:46 PM
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no everbody will even if they can......but it is nice to have the option.......
uk is not that perfect a place to migrate..... i did work there for a while....... i don't think gmc recognised any indian med school, ever..... This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 8 2008, 08:46 PM |
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Aug 8 2008, 08:57 PM
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http://www.gmc-uk.org/register/employing/r...information.asp
the onli left out is S.Africa lor, Aus/NZ/SG/HK are all developed right |
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hk and spore only considered developed maybe the last 10 years or so.....
in addition to um, the university of the west indies in trinidad and tobago was also recognised, but they together with um was subsequently derecognised....... okay lah....... um Added on August 8, 2008, 9:12 pmi too had the sense of doubt, inferiority complex when comparing with the brit graduates...but after working there, i realised we are on par....i had pretty good med education, as good as the british schools....... caveat: that was the 'old' um...... by the same token, many graduates from 3rd world unis and local ipta/ipts really sucks.... This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 8 2008, 09:42 PM |
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Aug 8 2008, 09:21 PM
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see, i got the right ans from the beginning
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stop the labeling already, 3rd world ..1st world. lolx.
We are one world+smiley We have just flooded with off-topic posts on AIMST thread .. It happens whenever u guys start debating. |
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Well, debating ain't bad. It's alright as long as no personal attack is involved.
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i guess arnd 50-55
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err im not a med student, but whats with the labeling of first world third world thing? gosh not every1 r Richy rich to get into those ivy leagues or whatever even if they have the best results..so stop comparing-to those who love to compare...im from an uni which some(those so-called ivy league brats) might consider 2nd class too..but seriously, it doesn't make us any lesser.. n to the aimst students, ignore those who look down on u guys, im sure u guys are as good as the others..
Added on August 9, 2008, 12:57 pmn btw, im not from aimst, so dont think im promoting the uni..just felt bad for those students from there who have to keep facing the remarks from ppl who r rich n find cheaper unis bad...hahaha This post has been edited by cutejams2004: Aug 9 2008, 12:57 PM |
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QUOTE(cutejams2004 @ Aug 9 2008, 12:55 PM) err im not a med student, but whats with the labeling of first world third world thing? gosh not every1 r Richy rich to get into those ivy leagues or whatever even if they have the best results..so stop comparing-to those who love to compare...im from an uni which some(those so-called ivy league brats) might consider 2nd class too..but seriously, it doesn't make us any lesser.. n to the aimst students, ignore those who look down on u guys, im sure u guys are as good as the others.. this is NOTHING to do with money or wealth......Added on August 9, 2008, 12:57 pmn btw, im not from aimst, so dont think im promoting the uni..just felt bad for those students from there who have to keep facing the remarks from ppl who r rich n find cheaper unis bad...hahaha there IS a difference between developed economies, and 3rd world, in many things, not least the way doctors are trained...... there is a significant difference between how selection, and training of future doctors are done..... in the developing world, money WILL get you into medical school, just look at msia.....as ethincity.... in developed economies, because education is state funded, citizens pay little fees, and even that is deferred as loans, to be paid when you start working......so EVERYBODY can enter uni, if they want and qualify........selection into med schools is then purely on merit, based on a combination of applitude (various tests eg isat, umat, pqa etc), interview, and academic results.......MONEY will NOT get you in, if you don't qualify...... so which is the fairer system?.......you tell me....... you are identifying the deficiencies of the msian system , and blaming the 1st world for charging high fees.....if msia med schools are as good quality, selected on merit, do you think people will want to spend a fortune overseas.......??these high quality education you get in good 1st world countries, they do NOT have give you an education, you are a foreigner, but since you want, they will charge you the FULL cost of that education...... the basis of all the problems we are facing in education, is the FAILURE of our own education system...... This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 9 2008, 03:02 PM |
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Aug 9 2008, 03:01 PM) this is NOTHING to do with money or wealth...... Well i do agree with the fact we are facing an education system dilemma, malaysia seriously has problems regarding education system, the quota nonsense and all. But at the end of the day, all these problems are caused by the irresponsible government and politicians..the consequences of these problems =students are forced to settle for something they are not interested in, deprived of higher education or either they have to settle for what ever best they can get. So, at the end the victims here are us the students. Thus, is it right for us to be punished and reffered to as the lower ones just because we had to settle for unis that some might consider not high in standard? Does it mean that if the malaysian education system is screwed up, all Malaysian students studying locally or in other cheaper unis are also not capable of being a good doctor, engineer, scientist and etc? Aren't we or weren't we forced to comply to circumstances? By taunting n insulting malaysian grads from ipta or ipts, are we going to get anywhere? Are we, the students , to be blamed for the education system in Malaysia today? By downgrading us, does it make any difference to the current status or future beings of Malaysian students or the education system itself? Or what is it that u suggest the poor, unlucky but smart students to do other than trying to ease the burden of their parents by joining the ipta's or ipts's/ there IS a difference between developed economies, and 3rd world, in many things, not least the way doctors are trained...... there is a significant difference between how selection, and training of future doctors are done..... in the developing world, money WILL get you into medical school, just look at msia.....as ethincity.... in developed economies, because education is state funded, citizens pay little fees, and even that is deferred as loans, to be paid when you start working......so EVERYBODY can enter uni, if they want and qualify........selection into med schools is then purely on merit, based on a combination of applitude (various tests eg isat, umat, pqa etc), interview, and academic results.......MONEY will NOT get you in, if you don't qualify...... so which is the fairer system?.......you tell me....... you are identifying the deficiencies of the msian system , and blaming the 1st world for charging high fees.....if msia med schools are as good quality, selected on merit, do you think people will want to spend a fortune overseas.......??these high quality education you get in good 1st world countries, they do NOT have give you an education, you are a foreigner, but since you want, they will charge you the FULL cost of that education...... the basis of all the problems we are facing in education, is the FAILURE of our own education system...... Isnt it better for us to encourage the Malaysian students, keep them(or us) motivated,, make us feel and think that we are on par with others globally, so that we can actually succeed to our level best? By downgrading us, it only makes things more difficult and impossible...An university's ranking alone doesnt make a student a great person in future...its the student themselves who can build their knowledge, and last but not least, results isnt everything...What is important, is that we work hard, broaden our spectrum of knowledge by our own effort and THINK! This post has been edited by cutejams2004: Aug 9 2008, 03:39 PM |
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I'd say the university does play a role in creating great physicians or surgeons. Of course, it is not only the education that i playing the role. Students they themselves need to have the commitment too.
Therefore, good university + good student = good doctors. Lousy university + good student will produce students lack of clinical knowledge etc. Therefore they need to work extra hard when they come to their life as a houseman. And THAT, still does not gurantee them of becoming one skillful doctor in the future. It varies i guess. University ranking. As long as students produced are competent, maybe not equally. It's fine. We're not competiting against who's the top surgeons anyways. Just wanna be a doctor equipped with sufficient knowledge so that we could still benefit the society in the same way. Ignore the income of the great surgeons or whatsover. Some of them work purely just to earn money and they tend to forget all the medical ethics already. I guess it really depends on how a person thinks. Again, thought varies. |
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i have no solution for the messed up education system, it takes political will, that is all.........
but therefore the facts remains..... 1. there is a difference between 1st and 3rd world unis.... 2. the difference relates to quality issues, which is how selection of students are made, curriculum, minimum standards, daring to fail people if indicated etc...... 3. therefore when one graduates from a well known 1st world uni, the immediate assumption is, this is a godd student, who was selected by merit, and has undergone good training, have survived strict exams, and now is a competent doctor (or whatever profession)......in the msian context, he of course has rich parents or has a scholarship, but that is beside the point, without being qualified, he would NOT have got in...... 4. when confronted with a 3rd world graduate, questions immediately crops up in one's mind: was this person selected on real merit, or based on quotas? or he has rich parents who paid for a place? was he sufficiently good enough to justify his selection? did he pass all his exams? was the school instructed to pass him (you will be surprised)? did he receive good training? was there enough lecturers? ........so many doubts and questions..... do you understand? This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 9 2008, 05:53 PM |
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Haya,
I have always known that you are somehow connected to limeuu. You are always there to defend him. Also, you said you posted in the thread about moscow state medical not being ranked 2nd worldwide but in fact i can't find any post from you in the same thread, so i am guessing that you used his account to post in that thread, right? Btw, why deleted your post? If he's married for more than i lived, then he must be at least 40. limeuu, Seriously, do you have to repeat same thing over and over again? I am really sicked of reading your posts, they are all very similar. I believe we all know there are major defects in our educational system. But what can we do?? Instead of you bashing 3rd world schools all the time, why dun you give some constructive criticisms regarding how to be a good doctor since you are a doctor yourself? Also, many students who entered local private med schools are brilliant but do not have the luxury to go for medical education in the 1st world countries which you praised so much. This includes those who are on scholarship. BTw, if you are from UM, you should know who's Dr MV Kumar right? This post has been edited by hypermax: Aug 9 2008, 06:08 PM |
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lol my bio teacher here in aus told us to apply everywhere cos we'll be learning the same thing doesnt matter we're in uk, aus, or india, or malaysia. to what extent is this true? =/
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Aug 9 2008, 07:58 PM) lol my bio teacher here in aus told us to apply everywhere cos we'll be learning the same thing doesnt matter we're in uk, aus, or india, or malaysia. to what extent is this true? =/ that is generally true.....just as all students learning physics also learn newton's laws...... the facts are the same...... you assessments, standards required to pass, soft skills like communication, work ethics, etc will be very different......... and of course whether you get an offer in the first place.....selection criteria varies very widely...... eg, say you obtain a ter of 95, you will likely NOT get any offer in oz at all, but will more than qualify to enter any of msia's ipts med schools......so if you have been aussie, you life would be different, you will go do another course, and take another profession.......but since you are msian, you will enter a med school somewhere, and become a doctor....... Added on August 9, 2008, 9:36 pm QUOTE(hypermax @ Aug 9 2008, 06:06 PM) Seriously, do you have to repeat same thing over and over again? I am really sicked of reading your posts, they are all very similar. I believe we all know there are major defects in our educational system. But what can we do?? i wasn't answering you, but to specific comments by others.......they obvious do not do reading of old posts..........Instead of you bashing 3rd world schools all the time, why dun you give some constructive criticisms regarding how to be a good doctor since you are a doctor yourself? Also, many students who entered local private med schools are brilliant but do not have the luxury to go for medical education in the 1st world countries which you praised so much. This includes those who are on scholarship. BTw, if you are from UM, you should know who's Dr MV Kumar right? i bash 3rd world schools not........but put the facts in perspective, so people gets realistic info...... each individual will be judged individually, especially from 3rd world med schools, so it's up to you.....there are lots of bright and competent doctors from 3rd world unis.......you just have to prove yourselves......but unfortunately the negatives associated with 3rd world unis will rub off on you, and you will carry that burden of doubt with you as a generic mark.....facts of life...... just prove yourself......worthy of the best..... my era is tj danaraj......go google him.....he is a giant malaysian... This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 9 2008, 09:59 PM |
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lol if you were under T.J. Danaraj , I guess your age must be somewhere 40 to 50.
if that's the case, your remarks are rather immature; has no sense of widsom. for someone ur age... no offence though.. |
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QUOTE(blackrobin @ Aug 9 2008, 10:09 PM) lol if you were under T.J. Danaraj , I guess your age must be somewhere 40 to 50. i tell the facts as it is.........if you are not matured enough to handle it, get off the forum........if that's the case, your remarks are rather immature; has no sense of widsom. for someone ur age... no offence though.. This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 9 2008, 10:26 PM |
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Speaking of maturity, i'm only 20. .. and you have over 20 years more experience than me ..as a doctor..
hmm ur comments have been unhelpful, to put it in a better way. you're a UM graduate, i dont know if you would label ur uni as 3rd world uni, but i acknowledge you as a UM doc.. UM is malaysia top uni after all. well, a uncle of mine-a doctor- always advice me what i should or must do during my med training years. And also the attributes i should have once i become a doctor. But some your comments were no where near an advice. You should have great insights about doctors in malaysia in general regardless of where they graduate from. And you urselves have worked with orang putih before, which is a great experience, we'd love to learn from you. i think the comments shouldn't come from an experienced doctor like you This post has been edited by blackrobin: Aug 9 2008, 11:08 PM |
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Aug 9 2008, 09:28 PM) that is generally true..... ah icic, basically knowledge is the same, just that skills learnt will be different =/ i don quite get the part where u said "whether you get an offer in the first place" though, can u clarify? thanks.just as all students learning physics also learn newton's laws...... the facts are the same...... you assessments, standards required to pass, soft skills like communication, work ethics, etc will be very different......... and of course whether you get an offer in the first place.....selection criteria varies very widely...... eg, say you obtain a ter of 95, you will likely NOT get any offer in oz at all, but will more than qualify to enter any of msia's ipts med schools......so if you have been aussie, you life would be different, you will go do another course, and take another profession.......but since you are msian, you will enter a med school somewhere, and become a doctor....... and yeah, basically I'm interested in medicine, quite passionate bout it though. well, no harm trying, if I really cant get in (even in msia, cos I screwed up my ISAT test in aus), then i guess i'll go for other med-related courses in aus. but your last sentence seems to show that msians are kia su xD but oh well, thats kinda true =D |
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QUOTE(blackrobin @ Aug 9 2008, 11:06 PM) Speaking of maturity, i'm only 20. .. and you have over 20 years more experience than me ..as a doctor.. i do not know anyone here personally.......hmm ur comments have been unhelpful, to put it in a better way. you're a UM graduate, i dont know if you would label ur uni as 3rd world uni, but i acknowledge you as a UM doc.. UM is malaysia top uni after all. well, a uncle of mine-a doctor- always advice me what i should or must do during my med training years. And also the attributes i should have once i become a doctor. But some your comments were no where near an advice. You should have great insights about doctors in malaysia in general regardless of where they graduate from. And you urselves have worked with orang putih before, which is a great experience, we'd love to learn from you. i think the comments shouldn't come from an experienced doctor like you i give the facts........ i give general advise......... my insight on the quality and spectrum of doctors is exactly why i say the things i did.......seen too many bad doctors who should not have done medicine in the first place.......and how this problem doesn't exist in uk and singapore...... which comments do you take exception to?....be specific....... Added on August 9, 2008, 11:21 pm QUOTE(onelove89 @ Aug 9 2008, 11:07 PM) ah icic, basically knowledge is the same, just that skills learnt will be different =/ i don quite get the part where u said "whether you get an offer in the first place" though, can u clarify? thanks. many msians doing/done foundation/year12/nzyear13 who failed to enter the courses they want (usually medicine, dentistry, maybe pharmacy, this is usually not a problem for other courses) will return to msia and enrol in one of the ipts, popular ones being pmc and imu, and maybe now monash as well.....and yeah, basically I'm interested in medicine, quite passionate bout it though. well, no harm trying, if I really cant get in (even in msia, cos I screwed up my ISAT test in aus), then i guess i'll go for other med-related courses in aus. but your last sentence seems to show that msians are kia su xD but oh well, thats kinda true =D and it is paradoxical and ironical, don't you think, that when in a certain country, you do not qualify (even if you have money), you can then go to another country and pay money and get a place......?? This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 9 2008, 11:21 PM |
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I don't like the way you commented on the local U and private med school in malaysia, they meant as if all the med students from there would make shitty doctors. this is interesting.. how bad were them? lack of medical knowledge(clinical,etc) or just just plain bad attitudes? QUOTE(limeuu @ Aug 9 2008, 11:15 PM) and it is paradoxical and ironical, don't you think, that when in a certain country, you do not qualify (even if you have money), you can then go to another country and pay money and get a place......?? I think it is paradoxical generally , and to some it's pure irony. But some really have passion in medicine, when the orthodox way is denied, they would opt for an alternative. Eg. the one you've statedThis post has been edited by blackrobin: Aug 9 2008, 11:36 PM |
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QUOTE(blackrobin @ Aug 9 2008, 11:27 PM) I don't like the way you commented on the local U and private med school in malaysia, they meant as if all the med students from there would make shitty doctors. read my posts again.......carefully.......i make no blanket judgement on any particular student......only the system.......this is interesting.. how bad were them? lack of medical knowledge(clinical,etc) or just just plain bad attitudes? med schools in msia, both ipts and ipta, are mediocre.......none has achieved any excellence....even um has dumbed down.......as reflected in it's lost of gmc registration and world ranking......getting and keeping good lecturers and teachers are the underlying problems...... the main problem is however, admission policy......if you don't select the right students, you end up with the wrong doctors.......the spectrum of students is so broad, you get the very good to the very bad.....that is wrong........it should be the very good to the good........ i am very critical in this area........i strongly believe mediocre students should NOT be allowed to "try'.......because the system is NOT robust enough to weed them out ('not allowed to fail' policy)......and bad doctors are actually allowed to graduate..... i was initially critical of imu's admission policy too, they are too lax in entry requirements, but they made up for this by having a robust exam system, daring to fail those who do not make the grades........this they have to do, because eventually, it is NOT imu who decides who passes, it's the pms, who will decide who can be accepted into their med schools..........and they tolerate no compromise of standards.....and those who went through the pms through the years have graduated comfortably compared with the home students..... |
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Aug 9 2008, 11:48 PM) read my posts again.......carefully.......i make no blanket judgement on any particular student......only the system....... huh? you mean having good teachers/lecturers is the core problem..I guess it's a typo from u or it has an underlying meaning? med schools in msia, both ipts and ipta, are mediocre.......none has achieved any excellence....even um has dumbed down.......as reflected in it's lost of gmc registration and world ranking......getting and keeping good lecturers and teachers are the underlying problems...... the main problem is however, admission policy......if you don't select the right students, you end up with the wrong doctors.......the spectrum of students is so broad, you get the very good to the very bad.....that is wrong........it should be the very good to the good........ i am very critical in this area........i strongly believe mediocre students should NOT be allowed to "try'.......because the system is NOT robust enough to weed them out ('not allowed to fail' policy)......and bad doctors are actually allowed to graduate..... i was initially critical of imu's admission policy too, they are too lax in entry requirements, but they made up for this by having a robust exam system, daring to fail those who do not make the grades........this they have to do, because eventually, it is NOT imu who decides who passes, it's the pms, who will decide who can be accepted into their med schools..........and they tolerate no compromise of standards.....and those who went through the pms through the years have graduated comfortably compared with the home students..... NUS is not registrable to the GMC too. wow, you're a serious critic, really, not as a food critic, film critic, but a med skol critic. lol ok, how bad were them as a doctor, and how bad will us, the "mediocre" med students from the 'mediocre' med skols in Mas, be in the future as a doctor? |
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No med schools outside of UK and EU are registrable to the GMC currently. The ruling has been changed. International Medical Graduates (IMG) have to take PLAB in order to work in UK. But i guess there's no point taking PLAB now as non UK or EU citizens will not be allowed to take up a training post.
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QUOTE(hypermax @ Aug 10 2008, 03:14 AM) No med schools outside of UK and EU are registrable to the GMC currently. The ruling has been changed. International Medical Graduates (IMG) have to take PLAB in order to work in UK. But i guess there's no point taking PLAB now as non UK or EU citizens will not be allowed to take up a training post. I've read on the RAF website that they do recruit doctors and dentists from commonwealth countries. If you can't take PLAB because you're a non-UK citizen, then what about it? |
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QUOTE(edge85 @ Aug 10 2008, 03:38 AM) I've read on the RAF website that they do recruit doctors and dentists from commonwealth countries. If you can't take PLAB because you're a non-UK citizen, then what about it? You must take PLAB if you are not a UK/EU citizen and graduated from a Non UK/EU school in order to be registrable to GMC. |
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Just an update for AIMST's thread. It's our unis big day tomorrow and the campus is looking really awesome tonight. The Prime Minister and his cabinets are to be here at 9.30am tomorrow morning for the official ceremony. Currently most of the delegates are already here at the campus.
News reports taken from NST and The Star. NST : Collaboration of AIMST and Imperial College London on a joint researh to tackle tuberculosis. http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Fri...icle/index_html The Star : Abdullah to open AIMST University’s new RM500m campus http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...4026&sec=nation Enjoy your day. And this is just an update to all the AIMST students at lowyat.net. |
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Wow, good to hear that.
AIMST will be a leading medical institute in the near future. |
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Yup, hopefully. It has certainly moved on quite alot since the day it was established. Something to be proud of, at last. Haha. Probably cause of the appointment of our new VC who's also a Brit cardiothoracic professor from Sheffield, Prof. Geoffrey Smith.
"New Live. New Beat." is the tagline for the opening, lets hope that the new beat continues. |
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Hey bro, do you know anything about AIMST pharmacy? Lecturers are mostly from where? My cousin is very keen on joining pharmacy course in AISMT.
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AIMST campus ROOM can online or not?
Added on August 21, 2008, 8:52 pm QUOTE(hypermax @ Aug 17 2008, 01:01 AM) Hey bro, do you know anything about AIMST pharmacy? Lecturers are mostly from where? My cousin is very keen on joining pharmacy course in AISMT. me too, will it be recognize? - -" thats the main problem..This post has been edited by manfye: Aug 21 2008, 08:52 PM |
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Oh sorry hypermax and manfye, for the late reply.
AIMST Pharmacy, have got a few mates currently doing the Bachelor of Pharmacy programme. So far as i've heard recognition should not be a problem as the course is already accredited by MQA and waiting to be approved by the Pharmacy Board of Malaysia once the first batch has graduated. They are currently in their 3rd year now. The School of Pharmacy will be taking in the lastest Batch 4 students this September. Facillities wise, it's excellent as most of the facillities such as the Anatomy Dissection Hall, Multidisciplinary Labs they are sharing with us the medical/dental students. Lecturers wise, if i've not mistaken most are from India but with a mix of locals. Not too sure about that though. You guys can check out the curriculum through our new websites anyways. And manfye, AIMST campus hostels do provide us with a super slow LAN internet connection. LOL. The campus is currently working on a campus wide wireless internet connection though. |
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semeling dead area...nearest town sungai petani 20km..sp its not a happening area..but ok low living cost
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Great place to concentrate and study isn't it? Luscious green valley of Gunung Jerai. Not much entertainment. That's part of the reason they set up a medical school there. LOL. Most of the time, studies are the main activity for students in campus. Haha.
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QUOTE(manfye @ Aug 21 2008, 08:49 PM) Yes, can online.QUOTE(ganabathi @ Aug 21 2008, 11:19 PM) semeling dead area...nearest town sungai petani 20km..sp its not a happening area..but ok low living cost Many a time we drive to Penang just for movies....it isn't that far anyway... |
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QUOTE(csrulez @ Aug 21 2008, 09:21 PM) And manfye, AIMST campus hostels do provide us with a super slow LAN internet connection. LOL. The campus is currently working on a campus wide wireless internet connection though. working on.... swt..no internet how to find resources from the internet.. how about the off-campus hostel price? izit cheap? can i duwan to eat at campus? the cafeteria very dirty (what i heard from my fren) |
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QUOTE(manfye @ Aug 22 2008, 03:18 PM) working on.... swt.. Read again, THERE IS internet. But should be fast enough to do your assignments. WORKING ON wireless, ie currently it's all wired.no internet how to find resources from the internet.. how about the off-campus hostel price? izit cheap? can i duwan to eat at campus? the cafeteria very dirty (what i heard from my fren) There're no off-campus hostels. Renting a place outside will cost at a minimum of RM100 per room. Food is included in your hostel fees, so might as well just eat it. Nah, the cafeteria looks fine to me. Just some flies once in a while. The food is edible, but certainly not the best around town. |
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QUOTE(edge85 @ Aug 22 2008, 04:51 PM) Read again, THERE IS internet. But should be fast enough to do your assignments. WORKING ON wireless, ie currently it's all wired. lol, thxs, im ok already if the internet can use MSN and wikipedia, haha...! There're no off-campus hostels. Renting a place outside will cost at a minimum of RM100 per room. Food is included in your hostel fees, so might as well just eat it. Nah, the cafeteria looks fine to me. Just some flies once in a while. The food is edible, but certainly not the best around town. so, renting a place outside is better than campus? is there any nice place to intro? thxs for telling me so many info, hehe |
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QUOTE(manfye @ Aug 23 2008, 01:32 AM) lol, thxs, im ok already if the internet can use MSN and wikipedia, haha...! But it's compulsory for foundation and first year students to pay for hostel fees.so, renting a place outside is better than campus? is there any nice place to intro? thxs for telling me so many info, hehe |
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Business tactics. Before u enter AIMST, be prepared with the managements. They can make you vomit blood sometimes.
Off-campus houses commonly stayed by students would be Bandar Laguna Merbok (BLM) and Lagenda Heights. Check em' out. Rental in betw 100-200 per room depending on the location and houses. |
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For dentistry course,is there any twinning program in AIMST? For the practice on cadavers(dead bodies),do you each have one or you all have to share?
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Nope no twinning programme, it's a 5 year local course which you have to do here. We have a dental hospital for clinical training and great facillities for dental students from what i've seen. Let edge85 elaborate on this.
Cadavers, we do use it for Anatomy dissection but sadly no, we do not each have one to dissect on it. Most of the cadavers are parts of bodies which are already properly dissected by the lecturer to show important structures such as nerves, vessels etc. It is usually showed by the lecturers during the dissection period where we are divided into 4 groups, students can choose their own favourite station to reside since they are 4 diff lecturers lecturing at the same time. We are allowed to touch and play with it though. Plus, the Anatomy Dissection Hall is opened to students all the time on weekdays 8 to 5 for study purposes. I guess IMU do not have these kind of facillities. Cadavers are still the best way to learn anatomy, IMHO. =) |
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Aug 27 2008, 10:44 AM
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But without the twinning program,means it won't be recognised overseas right? Means cannot work there =.= |
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You can't say that.
Certain countries such as US does not recognise any degrees in every other part of the world no matter how prestigious the university is, therefore u need to sit for the entrance examination such as USMLE in order to be recognised by them. Therefore for recognition, there are many other pathways to it. Such as entrance examination like USMLE and PLAB for UK. However, AIMST is a cheaper alternative to health sciences related course such as medicine, dentistry etc. If you have the money, i'd say go for the twinning programme at IMU (around 800k-1mil if done in Aus inclusive of cost of living) or try to do it fully overseas definitely. BUT, you have to be aware that it's very tough to secure a space though unless u have really really great results as health courses are very competitive (med, dent etc) throughout the world. Edited: In fact, dentistry places are so much more limited if compared to medicine. This post has been edited by csrulez: Aug 27 2008, 10:56 AM |
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Aug 27 2008, 11:06 AM
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Wow,the twininng program is that expensive? I didn't know it would almost reach until 1mil O_o. Do you have any idea whether in IMU,can we choose the no. of years we want to go overseas?
Btw,you said in AIMST,there is a dental hospital for clinical training and great facillities for dental students from what you have seen . Means you're not in dentistry? The dental hospital,when do you start your training there? |
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Aug 27 2008, 11:16 AM
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It's a twinning programme from IMU, that's the fees you should expect. It's a 2.5 years local pre-clinical (RM390k excluding cost of living) plus 2.5-3 years (RM500k excluding cost of living) clinical programme abroad, you have no choice if you choose to twin. It's a curriculum.
No, i'm a medical student. That is why i said i'd let edge85 to eleborate on the dental programme. I've got many friends here in dentistry though, of course i know what facillities they have got. Dental hospital provide various dental services to patients around this area, and clinical training starts on 3rd year. You need to have hands on practice on patients under close supervision of the lecturers. As for the great facillities, each of them have their own station to work in. FYI, the dental chairs can cost up to 70-80k EACH. There are many more to elaborate on, unless you take a tour here by urself. |
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Hello Joy:)
You will start your clinicals in the third year. In year1 you will learn all the basic sciences like anatomy, physiology, biochemistry and noob dentistry. basically very very very objective stuff. Then in Year 2, prepare for sleepless nights because it gets tough. With 6-8 subjects to juggle for your finals, you'll also be doing simulation lab work and learning how to construct dentures and making moulds and etc in the dental technology labaratory. We took nearly half a year to finish making our dentures! Then in Year 3, you'll be exposed to the clinical environment. At first, you'll practice on each other. Like taking impressions of each others' teeth, scaling and polishing for each other, checking for ulcers in each others' mouth and more. Basically you'll need to practice the non-invasive procedures on each other before attempting it on patients. WHich you will get to have also in your third year. But as the pioneer batch, we'll only see our first patients in Year 4. In Year 4, will tell you in a years' time what I've gone through. The dental hospital is to cater to the walk in patients who will be part of our syllabus before we graduate as dentists. In year 4, (DAMN it's this year, now only I realise), the LAN people will be coming for another time(they come every year) to give us our accreditation. Medicine has already received it. |
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THanks csrulez and jayelleenelial !. I have another question,what's the difference between penang internation college and AIMST for dentistry? I know they twin to india but is it good/recognised?
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I've hardly heard of anyone who went for that. Now with IMU opened, less people have been raving about PIDC. But those who might have gone, are probably finishing their final sems in India and would be coming back soon. But if you look around the internet, most people are either planning to come to AIMST and IMU. Aimst, because we are the pioneer private dental school in Malaysia(before this it was only held by UKM, USM, UM) and after 3 years, out came IMU...and the name itself will attract people there. But it's about 100k+++ more expensive than doing dentistry at AIMST.
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Sigh....i see....yeah,price wise,imu is very ex...more ex than medicine. But then with the twining program,you'll be recognised in the UK and can work there also. sigh.....but then 1mil is too much. >.<. How about singapore Uni? How is the price? (singapore very competitive...very difficult to get in i'm sure but i'm just curious
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can't remember..i think 78000 all in all.... or issit 78000SGD? i can't remember. i did my research way back in 2004, when I was still naive that a-levels was a breeze. SO NOT TRUE.
i wanted to go there reallly badly actually. if you've not done your foundation, i advice you to PLEASE PLEASE try for the asean scholarship and do ur a levels at a college there. would be much easier to get in. |
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I don't think it's that cheap >.<. Yeah,at one point,i wanted to go there so badly too. I applied for asean before my spm but i didn't get it. I thought of applying after my A levels results but they closed the application d. I wonder why our A levels here especially London board is sort of not recognised there so we still have to sit SAT 1 >.<
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yeah i remember the whole SAT 1 hoo hah. i thought it was too tedious and thank god aimst opened.
my bf and i actually planned to go to NUS together like back in high school. He's there now doing pharmacy. :\ I'm going there in a few hours' time though! NUS i mean. hehe, happy merdeka to you~! |
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Singapore universities choose their students based on pure merits and extracurricular inlvolvement. Even to their own citizens, they're very particular in the selection process. That is why, it's not easy to secure a place in the university unless you have got very good results for your pre-u programmes eg. GCE A levels (sat by ASEAN scholars) plus a good involvement in extracurricular activities such as participation in national debate competition etc. Plus, you've gotta compete with students all over the world as NUS is one of the prestigious uni in this region. Dentistry course esp are very competitive. Also, be prepared to face excessive amount of stress if you plan to study in SG.
And thanks jayelleenelial for the explaination. Haven seen you around for quite some time already! This post has been edited by csrulez: Aug 27 2008, 12:24 PM |
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To jayelleenelial, Wow,really pharmacy in NUS? AWESOME!! XD. Btw,actually i'm choosing between pharmacy and dentistry. I have no idea which one. At first i wanted pharmacy but then i heard that you'll remain static and your pay too. Sigh. So that's why i'm thinking of dentistry. Well,what does your bf think of pharmacy in that way? Haiz..i might choose pharmacy if it wasn't for that. Btw,how much difference is the salary of a dentist and a pharmacist? I feel so money minded thinking of future income but i have no choice...i don't want to regret next time =.=. Happy merdeka to you too To csrules, Yeah,i know it's super stressful. I have one friend who's in NUS and she's having a hard time. She said try imagining that everyone except you knows what's the teacher talking about...something like that. Then she said the indians from india and the chinese from china are SUPER smart and also she said they sort of look up to malaysians because......we are multilingual... hahaha! Mandarin,canto,english,malay,hokkien This post has been edited by joychin89: Aug 27 2008, 12:29 PM |
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Besides income, think of the job that will suits your lifestyle and interest more for the future. You won't want to work for the sake of money for a lifetime, don't you? Job satisfaction is the most imp thing here. Get a job that you totally have interest in, else you'll lose interest even during the studies itself. Few of my seniors got that "syndrome" of losing interests in medicine in their 3rd and 4th year. Only thing i can say is that, you will definitely have no problem in terms of income if u were to choose in between dentistry and pharmacy. They are both professionals.
And yes, that's the only plus point of Malaysians. We're multilingual. Hahaa! Singapore is a great place to reside if you can deal with the stress, esp for education and career development. |
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hahaha.. yeah.. but the malaysians and singaporeans don't look up to the china chinese there. apparently they can be quite dirty...and strange. Racism among our own race.
Yeah.. no, we don't have plans to settle down in Singapore. would be to stressful for the kids. and i want a garden! Erm...... well, obviously i chose dentistry is because of the PAY! haha, totally fell asleep when i did my attachment at SUnway Medical back in 04 when they brought me round to the pharmacy, so i scratched that out. My bf is doing pharmacy coz his dad is a pharmacist, but he has grown to love the course. I mean if you go into the corporate side of pharmacy, I'm sure the sky is the limit too. I also chose dentistry because I didn't like the long hours put in by doctors..and i didn't want to sit behind a microscope as how I probably would if I stuck to my initial plans of a biotech/biomed double degree at Monash. Furthermore, anything non-science was not an option as I would've sucked in anything else. maths was a nononononoo.. so yeah, if you're in science, you only got biotech/engineering/doctor/dentist/pharmacist/nursing etc.. and other fancy-pants science degrees as wel. I like talking, I like creativity, I like biology, I like meeting new people, I like money.... that's why I'm in dentistry. Honesty. I got it. This post has been edited by jayelleenelial: Aug 27 2008, 01:33 PM |
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LOL! Are the pharmacy in the hospital something like in the store pharmacy? As in like.....they stand there at the small booth with the lab coat then people will ask them "oh,if i have this and that,what medication would be suitable?".
Same here...math and physics are my worst subjects >.< . I love chemistry more than bio though but bio is still ok la. Do you need a lot of chemistry knowledge in dentistry |
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haha...well, i'm not sure. but the pharmacists get very uptight when u ask them for things like, "excuse me, where are the disposable panties"when ur in a pharmacy.
nah, more bio. chemistry in biochemistry lor, first year. oK:) will reply u if u have anymore queries once i reach singapore. taata! |
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Haha. Ok then . Thanks a lot. No more questions for now. Take care!
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QUOTE(jayelleenelial @ Aug 27 2008, 01:31 PM) hahaha.. yeah.. but the malaysians and singaporeans don't look up to the china chinese there. apparently they can be quite dirty...and strange. Racism among our own race. The China Students are called PRC in NUS, and they tend to group together, so basically u dun get much chance to communicate with them.Yeah.. no, we don't have plans to settle down in Singapore. would be to stressful for the kids. and i want a garden! Erm...... well, obviously i chose dentistry is because of the PAY! haha, totally fell asleep when i did my attachment at SUnway Medical back in 04 when they brought me round to the pharmacy, so i scratched that out. My bf is doing pharmacy coz his dad is a pharmacist, but he has grown to love the course. I mean if you go into the corporate side of pharmacy, I'm sure the sky is the limit too. I also chose dentistry because I didn't like the long hours put in by doctors..and i didn't want to sit behind a microscope as how I probably would if I stuck to my initial plans of a biotech/biomed double degree at Monash. Furthermore, anything non-science was not an option as I would've sucked in anything else. maths was a nononononoo.. so yeah, if you're in science, you only got biotech/engineering/doctor/dentist/pharmacist/nursing etc.. and other fancy-pants science degrees as wel. I like talking, I like creativity, I like biology, I like meeting new people, I like money.... that's why I'm in dentistry. Honesty. I got it. "Stressful" is really smtg subjective, and depends alot on ur expectations. And somehow i think stress is proportional to competitiveness. I guess most parents would want their children to be more competitive right. This post has been edited by wgy589: Aug 27 2008, 02:29 PM |
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QUOTE(jayelleenelial @ Aug 27 2008, 12:17 PM) yeah i remember the whole SAT 1 hoo hah. i thought it was too tedious and thank god aimst opened. Oh, merdeka comming? When is it?my bf and i actually planned to go to NUS together like back in high school. He's there now doing pharmacy. :\ I'm going there in a few hours' time though! NUS i mean. hehe, happy merdeka to you~! |
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You seriously think he doesn't know when merdeka is? Hahaa.
Btw, Biochemistry kills. Lol. P.s. Just finished my medical ethics paper. Totally screwed it up. Sigh. =( |
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LOL. Biochem,is that the only paper which involves chemistry? What do you learn in it? Sigh,on the dentistry course,i'm still worried about the non-twining program. You know,nowadays,it's best if you have studied overseas before so it'll be recognised over there so you can work there and your cert would be more cantik than others who only studies locally and etc etc. How do you guys cope with this? I mean,after you graduate,then yes,you'll have to work for the government for 3 years but how about after that? Oh,and i have another question,if you have studies overseas before aka the twinning program,can you straight away work there after working with the government? This post has been edited by joychin89: Aug 27 2008, 06:49 PM |
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QUOTE(joychin89 @ Aug 27 2008, 06:39 PM) ^ Firstly, why are you so freakin worried about where to go after the 3 year government service? I'm sure it's gonna be fun in the government clinics too you know...there's so much more to learn and to experience in clinics n hospitals. I just hate it when everything is about their salary. You want money go do business...sell car sell house...LOL. Biochem,is that the only paper which involves chemistry? What do you learn in it? Sigh,on the dentistry course,i'm still worried about the non-twining program. You know,nowadays,it's best if you have studied overseas before so it'll be recognised over there so you can work there and your cert would be more cantik than others who only studies locally and etc etc. How do you guys cope with this? I mean,after you graduate,then yes,you'll have to work for the government for 3 years but how about after that? Oh,and i have another question,if you have studies overseas before aka the twinning program,can you straight away work there after working with the government? No, you cannot straight away go work at any foreign country. I think the UK don't want us anymore (at least for doctors i think). It's difficult to get into Australia. USA has their USMLE thing. But you'll have to find your own residency etc etc...very ma fa |
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I've not thought so far as to which country I'd like to go work in in the future.
You will always have a stable rice bowl. Our dean is working on the whole international recognition thing. Might not be that great for the pioneers and the second batch( heyyyy edge85 ) or even the third lah, since it's still early days. if you're coming in, it'll be like 10 years of AIMST Dentistry by the time u get out... so Petrol price also can go down in three months. Unhappy things can change one lah. |
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Yup, AIMST really do have the potential to excel as a global university now. It's so freaking different from few years ago. Example would be that not only the school of dentistry is fighting for international recognition, but the school of medicine has also collaborated with Imperial College London on a joint research which spans up to 10 yrs on infectious diseases. I believe there's more to come in to the future.
Jolene, certainly u guys (the pioneer batch) will have to work alot for the MDC recognition thingy (If MDC has the same criteria for recognition as MMC). It's definitely a noble job. I kinda admired our 1st and 2nd batch seniors for going though so many exams and extra courses specially arranged for them to attain recognition from MMC. It took 1 whole year for them to completely fullfil all de requirements. Now that we have got the recognition, they have definitely placed in ALOT of efforts. They are kind of like our model now as all de lecturers talk about how good and competent they are to each and every batch of juniors after they have graduated. Haha. |
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ahahhaa..wow.. hopefully we'll be that much of a 'star' when we graduate.
yeah I was very impressed when I read in the papers about AIMST teaming up with Imperial College to research on tuberculosis. Which years are involved? Or only the doctors? |
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Yup, definitely.
Only the physicians/lecturers from SOM department of medicine, i guess students are just not qualified to participate in any official research projects yet. Haha. Only SSMs. Sigh. We actually have a Research Ethical Community now in the uni to review all the SSMs and research proposals by students and lecturers. As told by Prof Narayan from dept of community med. Looks like the university has started walking onto the research track already. It's a good start for AIMST, we're gonna be an international recognised research hub one day. This post has been edited by csrulez: Aug 28 2008, 04:07 PM |
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[QUOTE] need your helps guys about aimst... i am going to enter aimst on 8 sept... need info...pls
Added on August 29, 2008, 5:22 pm[quote=edge85,Aug 27 2008, 02:35 PM] Oh, merdeka comming? When is it? [/quote] edge85..........u studying in aimst is it.... This post has been edited by abi: Aug 29 2008, 05:22 PM |
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QUOTE(abi @ Aug 29 2008, 04:13 PM) Studying (in a university), to me ,is not exclusive to having fun within campus grounds and having peers who have the same frequency as i am, in addition to having countless leng luis to ogle during lunch breaks.definitely not the university life i hoped for since young... So am i studying in aimst? |
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edge85....thanks for replying... i just want how is the university... it is good or.............
Added on August 29, 2008, 7:55 pm QUOTE(abi @ Aug 29 2008, 07:08 PM) [SIZE=7]i have another question.... how is biotech course in aimst.... any aimst biotech student here...?//? i am just confuse... dont know what is going on there This post has been edited by abi: Aug 29 2008, 07:55 PM |
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QUOTE(abi @ Aug 29 2008, 07:08 PM) edge85....thanks for replying... i just want how is the university... it is good or............. I will say the university is good, with excellent lecturers and lousy management.Added on August 29, 2008, 7:55 pm [SIZE=7] i have another question.... how is biotech course in aimst.... any aimst biotech student here...?//? i am just confuse... dont know what is going on there Hmmm, any biotech students around? Why biotech? |
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QUOTE(edge85 @ Aug 30 2008, 03:04 PM) I will say the university is good, with excellent lecturers and lousy management. thanks edge85..............Hmmm, any biotech students around? Why biotech? i am going for enter biotech course... thats why asking about it..? why there is no aimst biotec student here....? may be that course is not that popular among aimst student is it..... sorry if mistake have another question.... it is compulsary to bring tracksuit as they mention during the orientation?? for sure... u guys know about right.... pls help me.....really blur... ya about hostel???? This post has been edited by abi: Aug 30 2008, 08:56 PM |
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hi everyone. especially to the 'starter', shaun. and, you have done a nice job here,in this page.
well, just a little bit about myself. i'm also an aimster( 2 years). currently,I'm taking mbbs, year 1. i think that's all about me. Nice to meet u all! This post has been edited by rokenlim: Aug 30 2008, 10:22 PM |
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must experience yourself then you'll understand:)
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QUOTE(abi @ Aug 30 2008, 08:49 PM) thanks edge85.............. I'm sure it is popular, just the thread isn't.i am going for enter biotech course... thats why asking about it..? why there is no aimst biotec student here....? may be that course is not that popular among aimst student is it..... sorry if mistake have another question.... it is compulsary to bring tracksuit as they mention during the orientation?? for sure... u guys know about right.... pls help me.....really blur... ya about hostel???? Maybe a tracksuit is the cheapest option out for clothes that will get dirty during your orientation? You don't want to get eggs and flour all over your new pair of Nikes do you =) |
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QUOTE(edge85 @ Aug 31 2008, 01:50 PM) I'm sure it is popular, just the thread isn't. aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... i will vcomplain to my grand mom if anything happen like thatMaybe a tracksuit is the cheapest option out for clothes that will get dirty during your orientation? You don't want to get eggs and flour all over your new pair of Nikes do you =) Added on August 31, 2008, 1:58 pmedge85..... so it is compulsary to bring tracksuit lah..... ok i will try to bring.... i want to know about the hostel...pls... can brief a bit ahhh pls... just give me a short list what should i bring for use in hostel.....pls This post has been edited by abi: Aug 31 2008, 02:14 PM |
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QUOTE(abi @ Aug 31 2008, 01:55 PM) aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... i will vcomplain to my grand mom if anything happen like that Fuahh, I guess you don't know anybody from aimst in real life huhh....Added on August 31, 2008, 1:58 pmedge85..... so it is compulsary to bring tracksuit lah..... ok i will try to bring.... i want to know about the hostel...pls... can brief a bit ahhh pls... just give me a short list what should i bring for use in hostel.....pls Bring formal clothes, for sports, and for kai kai....stationery.....and that's it lah... It'll be good if you have a laptop... Anything else can be purchased in the grocery shop itself. Don't worry too much lah... |
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FUHHHHH. Back for a short 1 week of hols, at last.
QUOTE(rokenlim @ Aug 30 2008, 10:20 PM) hi everyone. especially to the 'starter', shaun. and, you have done a nice job here,in this page. ROKEN LIM!!! AT LAST U REGISTERED! Hahaha. Well, nice to meet you here dude. Please get active in this thread. Lol. Anyways, happy holidays back in S'wak! 11 weeks to Professional Exam I man. LOL.well, just a little bit about myself. i'm also an aimster( 2 years). currently,I'm taking mbbs, year 1. i think that's all about me. Nice to meet u all! QUOTE(joychin89 @ Aug 31 2008, 11:09 AM) You've gotta experience that yourself. Haha. |
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QUOTE(edge85 @ Aug 31 2008, 07:48 PM) Fuahh, I guess you don't know anybody from aimst in real life huhh.... thank u very much edge85 anna. Bring formal clothes, for sports, and for kai kai....stationery.....and that's it lah... It'll be good if you have a laptop... Anything else can be purchased in the grocery shop itself. Don't worry too much lah... |
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[QUOTE]11 weeks to Professional Exam I man. LOL.
hey, how can i enjoy my holiday with that reminder?? well, enjoy man. see you soon ________________________________ [QUOTE]Vomit blood i tell u sometimes AIMST is a 'wonderful' place where you learn how to be strong and patience. believe me, it is so real! |
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Haha. Just enjoy dude, our very last holiday. Second year's waiting for us. No more ethics, epid, anthro and biostats! Wooohooo!
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QUOTE(abi @ Aug 31 2008, 02:55 PM) aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... i will vcomplain to my grand mom if anything happen like that LOL....we've not had any grandmoms coming to whack the shit out of us.. but it's fun lah, eggs and flour. Added on August 31, 2008, 1:58 pmedge85..... so it is compulsary to bring tracksuit lah..... ok i will try to bring.... i want to know about the hostel...pls... can brief a bit ahhh pls... just give me a short list what should i bring for use in hostel.....pls For edge85's batch, my classmates and I made a green concoction with flour and food colouring and H20...... was stuck in their hair for days. They had their revenge on the next batch of juniors. |
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QUOTE(jayelleenelial @ Aug 31 2008, 11:21 PM) LOL....we've not had any grandmoms coming to whack the shit out of us.. but it's fun lah, eggs and flour. Yes, my entire batch except for me. I joined 2 weeks late heh.For edge85's batch, my classmates and I made a green concoction with flour and food colouring and H20...... was stuck in their hair for days. They had their revenge on the next batch of juniors. |
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QUOTE(jayelleenelial @ Aug 31 2008, 11:21 PM) LOL....we've not had any grandmoms coming to whack the shit out of us.. but it's fun lah, eggs and flour. kikikikikiki jayellelai akka......... nice to hear that...i am very sure that by doing that can make a lot of friends... i guess.. thats what my big bro told me who is stuying in uniten.......anYWAY.. my granny still looks healty and strong... so once i make a Call to her..... she can fly from ipoh to aimst.....LIKE WITCH USING BROOM...KIKIKIKIKIKIKIKIKIKI For edge85's batch, my classmates and I made a green concoction with flour and food colouring and H20...... was stuck in their hair for days. They had their revenge on the next batch of juniors. BY THAT WAY...JAYELLELALAI... so u studied foundation in aimst and then enter to degree ahhh??? i am going to be totally new there... i took stpm then coming there..... This post has been edited by abi: Sep 1 2008, 06:49 AM |
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QUOTE(abi @ Sep 1 2008, 07:42 AM) kikikikikiki jayellelai akka......... nice to hear that...i am very sure that by doing that can make a lot of friends... i guess.. thats what my big bro told me who is stuying in uniten.......anYWAY.. my granny still looks healty and strong... so once i make a Call to her..... she can fly from ipoh to aimst.....LIKE WITCH USING BROOM...KIKIKIKIKIKIKIKIKIKI Hahhahaha.. your granny should help us with our orientation then. sounds like a fun lady:)BY THAT WAY...JAYELLELALAI... so u studied foundation in aimst and then enter to degree ahhh??? i am going to be totally new there... i took stpm then coming there..... nahh..I did my a levels at taylor's college. Finished my alevels in june 2005...in July 2005 I went for National Service ..and only stayed for two months because by september i was accepted to study dentistrya t aimst already. |
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[quote=jayelleenelial,Sep 1 2008, 11:02 AM]
Hahhahaha.. your granny should help us with our orientation then. sounds like a fun lady:) nahh..I did my a levels at taylor's college. Finished my alevels in june 2005...in July 2005 I went for National Service ..and only stayed for two months because by september i was accepted to study dentistrya t aimst already. [/qu PITY MY GRANNY....... ANYWAY NICE TO CHAT WITH JAYELLENELLAI AKKA.... HOPE TO SEE U ALLL IN AIMST IN ANOTHER 1 WEEK.... GOOD LUCK FOR STUDIES AKKA AND EDGE85...THANK U VERY MUCH...... TO SOMEONE WHO I KNOW IN AIMST PLEASE STOP STAB IN THE BACK.. This post has been edited by abi: Sep 1 2008, 02:46 PM |
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What is this? Stab in the back? O.o
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QUOTE(csrulez @ Sep 1 2008, 05:01 PM) czrulez.... are sure u dont know what is stab in the back..??/ i hate just the person |
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What is stab in the back?
And I have never thought biotechnology to be bright in Malaysia. I know some friends who are doing their Masters in USM so they can teach after that. If you ask me, it's a scam those college people are telling that biotech is going to be hot in Malaysia. QUOTE(upmslut @ May 31 2008, 03:32 PM) I'm a biotech degree graduate, specialized in molecular genetics and enzymology. Experienced in PCR, cloning, fermentation, tissue cultures. But what job i can get in Malaysia? None besides sales. Only choice is to research field. But how many research center in malaysia? Compare with the MASS graduate and job opportunity which is very less, you will know that there is almost no chance for you to work back in your field after you graduate. Also, you need to at least take a phd to become recognize. Now i'm doing my master by research. Don't op for biotech if you not interested, and if you want to make money do other things else. QUOTE(jerk @ Jun 2 2008, 01:08 AM) yes...biotech will be one of the hottest field in future but not so soon in our country.even singapore which is ahead of us in this field is unable to provide enough job to all the biotech graduates.a lot of graduates from nus is unable to secure a job in biotech related field after they graduated. This post has been edited by edge85: Sep 1 2008, 07:39 PMThe R&D in msian rainforests will definitely open many opportunities for biotech grads. <--- yes . you are true again but it is not up to you or me to decide. if it is so, you probably wont get to find so many end up doing other job other than those related to biotech. our government is not putting enough effort to develope the field.sometimes we hear a lot from our government but it might take years before it get to the implement stage. if you are thinking of making money , biotech is not the field for you. if you are not keen on working in a lab,biotech is not the field for you. if you are into it just because someone told you that it is going to "boom" in malaysia , rethink at least twice. most probably you will regret in future. if you are not willing to invest your time and money to get to higher level than a degree level, biotech might not be the field for you. |
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Backstabbing i see. Who backstabbed you then in this forum?
Biotechnology, currently few batches are already out. And they are all already been employed from what i've heard. Watch out for the inaugural convocation this october. =) If you wanna advance in biotechnology field, i'd suggest you not to base in malaysia. M'sia has no recognition and technology in terms of research and development for biotechnology currently. That's from what i've seen. However, you can still get urself involved in academic teaching like how edge85 has said. |
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QUOTE(csrulez @ Sep 1 2008, 08:41 PM) Backstabbing i see. Who backstabbed you then in this forum? ooooooooooooooo finally u got it what i have tried to say Biotechnology, currently few batches are already out. And they are all already been employed from what i've heard. Watch out for the inaugural convocation this october. =) If you wanna advance in biotechnology field, i'd suggest you not to base in malaysia. M'sia has no recognition and technology in terms of research and development for biotechnology currently. That's from what i've seen. However, you can still get urself involved in academic teaching like how edge85 has said. i dont like to mention anything about that person..... wasting time as for your reply..... the same answer like what i have answered edge85 it is too late to change anything for now....anyway i will going to aimst this 8 sept to join biotech course........... and after 2 weeks there i will try to update here something about biotech in aimst.......will become officially ambassador for biotech in aimst........ thanks for your info... i appreciated that oh yaa... last question... it is true that a lot foundation students will joinin g for biotech????.... TIME WILL REVEAL EVERYTHING ABOUT BIOTECH FUTURE IN MALAYSIA,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,MARK MY WORDS Added on September 2, 2008, 6:22 am QUOTE(edge85 @ Sep 1 2008, 07:24 PM) What is stab in the back? THANKS FOR INFO... BUT TOO LATE TO CHANGE ANYTHING FOR NOW.... AT FIRST AIMSTOFFERED PHARMACY NOW CHANGED TO BIOTECH COURSE BECAUSE I REALLY INTEREST TO DO BIOTECH.............HOPE CAN EVERYTHING GOES WELL ............... And I have never thought biotechnology to be bright in Malaysia. I know some friends who are doing their Masters in USM so they can teach after that. If you ask me, it's a scam those college people are telling that biotech is going to be hot in Malaysia. This post has been edited by abi: Sep 2 2008, 06:22 AM |
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INFORMATION FOR EVERYONE..................
ONCE U GRADUATED..SURE IT WILL BE LIKE DEGREE RIGHT....DEGREE LIKE AN OCEAN....WHERE IS NOT SAFETY AT ALL IF U WANT TO REMAIN THERE..... SAFETY HERE MEANS FINANCE,,,,,,,,, SURE WILL HAVE FINANCIAL PROBLEM.....BECAUSE ONCE FINISH DEGREE... U CANNOT EXPECT A HUGE AMOUNT OF SALARY TO FLOW ON U......... SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHEN IT IS NOT SAFETY NEED TO GO FOR.MASTER..STUDIES BECAUSE THE HIGHER YOUR EDUCATIONAL LEVEL IS THE HIGHER YOUR SALARY WHAT..............................AND EVEN MORE FURTHER LIKE PHD................ SO STOP COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR COURSE....................THEY ARE JUST GOOD... WHAT IS THAT NEED WE SOME TIME TO PROVE EVERYONE... THIS APPLY TO ALL COURSE.... IT IS NOT MEAN THAT ONCE U FINISH MBBS.... COMING YEAR... U GOING TO KAYA RAYA.......... WE ALL KNOW THAT MONEY IS VERY IMPORTANT NOW..... SOME THING LIKE OXYGEN FOR US... BUT PLS HAVE RESPECT AND PASSION ON YOUR COURSE U DOING..... THIS MY HUMBLE REQUEST..... NO HURTS OKAY...CHEER UP This post has been edited by abi: Sep 2 2008, 02:10 PM |
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Sep 2 2008, 02:32 PM
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i guess less caps, more grammar, and you'll make an awesome biotech ambassador!
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Sep 2 2008, 02:56 PM
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Haha. Looks like we've got lotsa ambassador here already. Well yeah, work wee bit more on your grammars and caps looks kinda rude.
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Sep 2 2008, 05:30 PM
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how old are u abi? i've heard about the biotech hype like what, 10 years ago? and now my friends cannot find jobs, then forced to take masters? then teach? you noob?
i'd pick hotel management or mass comm over biotech, any day...if you're talking about job prospects and "A HUGE AMOUNT OF SALARY TO FLOW ON U" |
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Sep 2 2008, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(edge85 @ Sep 2 2008, 05:30 PM) how old are u abi? i've heard about the biotech hype like what, 10 years ago? and now my friends cannot find jobs, then forced to take masters? then teach? you noob? me 20 year old....edge...that is 10 years ago.... very sure.... before i graduate....there will a lot of job.... hoping..... did they all got any experience of working in this biotech field......???..... i have some suggestion for them but since u not a biotech student i cant reveal anything here....sorry i'd pick hotel management or mass comm over biotech, any day...if you're talking about job prospects and "A HUGE AMOUNT OF SALARY TO FLOW ON U" Added on September 2, 2008, 5:46 pm QUOTE(jayelleenelial @ Sep 2 2008, 02:32 PM) i am sorry jaya akka and czrulez for my grammar..... just new for this forum.... give a break okay... pls................ i knew that czrulez is a mbbs student....so sorry that comment ok.... cheer up.... no one are prefect here....we all just human...does mistake.... This post has been edited by abi: Sep 2 2008, 05:46 PM |
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Sep 2 2008, 07:01 PM
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Nononoo, there is no discrimination here dude. Oh please dun misunderstand, i truly understand what u're trying to convey. Just to pinpoint slightly abit on that mistake, i'm sure that u'll be a good ambassador in this forum. And please, do participate more in this forum as we truly need ppl like you to keep this thread going. ALSO, mbbs is really nothing here in the campus. Peace out dude.
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Sep 2 2008, 07:20 PM
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lol being new in a forum doesn't relate to good english leh.
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Sep 2 2008, 07:28 PM
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Sep 2 2008, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE(edge85 @ Sep 2 2008, 08:28 PM) LOL you know there's more where it came from. Just not feeling particularly b****y today.Added on September 2, 2008, 7:39 pmwait, did he call me jaya akka? that's sister in Indian rite? This post has been edited by jayelleenelial: Sep 2 2008, 07:39 PM |
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Sep 2 2008, 07:48 PM
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sorry to interrupt ...
helo everyone~ just register in english forum today~ and first of all , i need to apologize for my really really broken english.. and i never went for anglish forum...(well , i kind of addict to chinese forum...= =) ok... now i am quite trouble about this... (after see 20 page of reply..my brain is spinning anyway~) i was form 5 student last year. and at that time, like most of the student said, i dunno that this u exist. and... i have started my stpm already... about 3months ,i think.. (but it seems to have been one years...my own opinion..==) and one day~(dramatically change~) my mum saw the advertisement in newspaper... and after all the research... she think that this u is quite good... the fees,i think this is what she means.... (i am from moderate family...so money come first....sad..==) and now.... my dad want me to abandon my stpm and go for foundation... (from what i see from the 20page reply, i think my dad is right?) but the problem is.... the intake for foundation in science has gone... that means i lost the chance ...(haiz~) so the people there ask me to apply for next year jan intake.... ok... i can wait... (whole family are waiting ,actually...i think our neck will become longer next year...i wonder is there any benefit for that...easy to peep in exam?==) and now ... some problem has been haunting me... do aimst student need MUET result as compulsory subject? and from what i heard from my friend,in private institution ,moral is compulsory subject....(i hate moral...it is not i have no moral value...but i just don't see any connection for the practical and theory words..==) and another problem is.... i think even thought i apply for next year foundation... does that mean my classmates are all younger than me?! (i don't used to be with younger classmates...i think that will ...well...i have to be more mature ,better than us...otherwise ....well ....that feel ...well...a big burden in my heart....== ) and another problem is.... if anyone still remember.... is it necessary to get a translation for all documents ? (that is for foreign students, right? not sure about that..) and other than that.... what is the required documents ,except for the certified ic and spm result slip? thx for the incoming info~ |
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Sep 2 2008, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE(paige halloween @ Sep 2 2008, 08:48 PM) sorry to interrupt ... HI there! Wow, that's a really long comment. I think csrulez will know more about the foundation as he went through it. helo everyone~ just register in english forum today~ and first of all , i need to apologize for my really really broken english.. and i never went for anglish forum...(well , i kind of addict to chinese forum...= =) ok... now i am quite trouble about this... (after see 20 page of reply..my brain is spinning anyway~) i was form 5 student last year. and at that time, like most of the student said, i dunno that this u exist. and... i have started my stpm already... about 3months ,i think.. (but it seems to have been one years...my own opinion..==) and one day~(dramatically change~) my mum saw the advertisement in newspaper... and after all the research... she think that this u is quite good... the fees,i think this is what she means.... (i am from moderate family...so money come first....sad..==) and now.... my dad want me to abandon my stpm and go for foundation... (from what i see from the 20page reply, i think my dad is right?) but the problem is.... the intake for foundation in science has gone... that means i lost the chance ...(haiz~) so the people there ask me to apply for next year jan intake.... ok... i can wait... (whole family are waiting ,actually...i think our neck will become longer next year...i wonder is there any benefit for that...easy to peep in exam?==) and now ... some problem has been haunting me... do aimst student need MUET result as compulsory subject? and from what i heard from my friend,in private institution ,moral is compulsory subject....(i hate moral...it is not i have no moral value...but i just don't see any connection for the practical and theory words..==) and another problem is.... i think even thought i apply for next year foundation... does that mean my classmates are all younger than me?! (i don't used to be with younger classmates...i think that will ...well...i have to be more mature ,better than us...otherwise ....well ....that feel ...well...a big burden in my heart....== ) and another problem is.... if anyone still remember.... is it necessary to get a translation for all documents ? (that is for foreign students, right? not sure about that..) and other than that.... what is the required documents ,except for the certified ic and spm result slip? thx for the incoming info~ What course do you plan on pursuing? It happens everywhere lah... students decide that something is not right for them and they choose another course. If you think that your future career is important, a small matter like age should not be a barrier. Also, a lot of degree students took STPM. I'm not sure when STPM ends...but yeah, if you have faith in yourself, you can try that route and come in via your STPM. Coz sometimes foundation students might have to wait quite long for the degree intake to start. if you're worried about waiting and age... then u do a map yourself and see if STPM or Foundation brings you into your degree programme faster. I don't know about translation documents. MUET is a must if you want to graduate from this university, or any Malaysian university for that matter. But you can do this later on in your first year of uni. or even in foundation. Seeing as you didn't go to any private institutions before AIMST, yeeesss.... studying in a local private uni/college will require you to sit for Malaysian Studies(sejarah in english) and Moral studies. if you're a foreign student or from an international school and have no BM background then even BM is a subject at uni. On top of THOSE subjects, you will have four out of five university subjects (psychology, philosophy, world religion, sociology, critical thinking) and three kinds of english classes (english for general academic purposes, english for specific academic purposes, english for professional purposes). And then your own degree subjects. oh.... erm, maybe this is later on, but for ptptn you'll need your parent's pay slip or something like that. i can't remember now. |
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Sep 2 2008, 08:11 PM
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Note that, if you suck in the AIMST foundation course, then you'll have no where else to go.
Unlike STPM, a CGPA of 3.0 will get you into most places. It's not that hard anyway. But then again, AIMST will give priorities to it's foundation students (especially for the every popular MBBS). |
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Sep 2 2008, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(jayelleenelial @ Sep 2 2008, 07:20 PM) lol being new in a forum doesn't relate to good english leh. I think EGAP, ESAP and EPP should work out for him. it's all right. QUOTE(paige halloween @ Sep 2 2008, 07:48 PM) sorry to interrupt ... Hey there! Am glad you found this thread, din expect you to read all the 20 pages! Haha. Anyway, AIMST is indeed quite a good uni for now. helo everyone~ just register in english forum today~ and first of all , i need to apologize for my really really broken english.. and i never went for anglish forum...(well , i kind of addict to chinese forum...= =) ok... now i am quite trouble about this... (after see 20 page of reply..my brain is spinning anyway~) i was form 5 student last year. and at that time, like most of the student said, i dunno that this u exist. and... i have started my stpm already... about 3months ,i think.. (but it seems to have been one years...my own opinion..==) and one day~(dramatically change~) my mum saw the advertisement in newspaper... and after all the research... she think that this u is quite good... the fees,i think this is what she means.... (i am from moderate family...so money come first....sad..==) and now.... my dad want me to abandon my stpm and go for foundation... (from what i see from the 20page reply, i think my dad is right?) but the problem is.... the intake for foundation in science has gone... that means i lost the chance ...(haiz~) so the people there ask me to apply for next year jan intake.... ok... i can wait... (whole family are waiting ,actually...i think our neck will become longer next year...i wonder is there any benefit for that...easy to peep in exam?==) and now ... some problem has been haunting me... do aimst student need MUET result as compulsory subject? and from what i heard from my friend,in private institution ,moral is compulsory subject....(i hate moral...it is not i have no moral value...but i just don't see any connection for the practical and theory words..==) and another problem is.... i think even thought i apply for next year foundation... does that mean my classmates are all younger than me?! (i don't used to be with younger classmates...i think that will ...well...i have to be more mature ,better than us...otherwise ....well ....that feel ...well...a big burden in my heart....== ) and another problem is.... if anyone still remember.... is it necessary to get a translation for all documents ? (that is for foreign students, right? not sure about that..) and other than that.... what is the required documents ,except for the certified ic and spm result slip? thx for the incoming info~ Well, the next intake for Foundation in Science would be Jan 2009. MUET is not exactly a subject but an examination. You have to get at least a Band 3 to graduate from the University. It is not exactly compulsory to take it during your foundation but will save you from lotsa hassle in the future during your degree as you will no longer be as free as your foundation anymore. Therefore, it is recommended that u take the exam before you finish your foundation, or even after your foundation. Yes, undoubtfully age will vary in a batch. Not only foundation but even when you come to degree. Trust me, age doesn't mean anything when you come to uni. People younger then you can score better result sometimes and they might also be more matured. I guess the growing environment plays a more crucial role if it comes to maturity etc. There will definitely be people younger and older den you, some have finished their SPM, STPM or A levels etc. So this, you gotta bear with it. Nope, you do not need a translation for all documents if it is in English or Bahasa Malaysia. However, you have to make sure that all your documents are Malaysian documents. For the required documents, i'm not too sure about that. Probably you can try giving the school's admission division a ring. They should provide you with ample information on how you should prepare you documents for registration. Hopefully some of the info i've provided above would help you abit. Feel free to ask your doubts here, AIMST ppl here are very friendly. No worries. Hahaa. Jolene, you included. |
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Sep 2 2008, 08:30 PM
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[quote=jayelleenelial,Sep 2 2008, 08:00 PM]
thanks for the reply~ yup...my reply is usually long and messy... maybe i got problem in speak short and precise.... ok...i will wait for csrulez~^^ about the course.... i prefer dentistry.... but my dad and mum said that it is not ...well ...not yet ... so they want me to take mbbs.... ya.... many of my friends said that also... age should not be a problem...blem....em.... STPM... Oh well.... that was quite .... well... i know foundation is not easy also... but ... dunno... just have the feeling to escape from it..... ok... about MUET.... this october i am going to sit for it... so i only pray that i can get a band 5 then after that i don't need to think it anymore.... so ,to take mbbs and other degree... it have to be at least band 5 ,right?(teacher said so.... sejarah! i hate it ... but in english should ... er... i will try.,,, moral studies... ok..... wow... so many subject .... but i love philosophy it sounds fun~ from my recent research and what u all have said~ pay slip.... ok...i will tell my dad... coz the problem is.... he earn quite a number... however it cost quite lot to live in jb... and my sister in private high school..... so all the cost are extremly high..... so just sad... how i hope ptptn not only consider parents' salary... but their living cost also... gambateh~ and wish u all the best~^^ |
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Sep 2 2008, 08:42 PM
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I have replied your previous doubts, if you could see it above. Haha.
Well, foundation will be much easier if compared to other pre-u courses such as STPM, A levels etc. Still, you gotta study. Nothing comes easy. To qualify for MBBS now, you need at least 217 of total marks. Previously it was 215, and not to worry for the seats as places have been increased. It seems that much of the external students will be coming in for the next intake, 130 of them in 1 batch (Batch 14). I think to graduate for all professional courses, you need at least Band 3 or 4. Am not too sure about that, you need to clarify with your english lecturer. University paper. Haha. Have currently Psychology and EPP paper to go. 2 more and i'm out! Lol. As for the ptptn loan, no worries. For MBBS you will definitely get the full loan of RM150,000 if you have filled up and attached all the documents properly. In my batch, all of them got the full loan except for few who got rejected due to some minor errors they did on the application documents. So financially, you'll be defnitely getting 150k. I guess that should help alot as you only need to fork out another 70k for the tuition fees plus cost of living. |
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QUOTE(csrulez @ Sep 2 2008, 09:30 PM) hehe. one can only hope.QUOTE(csrulez @ Sep 2 2008, 09:30 PM) Hopefully some of the info i've provided above would help you abit. Feel free to ask your doubts here, AIMST ppl here are very friendly. No worries. Hahaa. Jolene, you included. LOL so is this about me being friendly or me needing to ask questions? |
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Sep 2 2008, 08:56 PM
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[quote=csrulez,Sep 2 2008, 08:30 PM]
er... actually i want to confess... i didn't read very carefully (especially until page 13and above... i will go and bang myself on the wall ya... the teacher also want us to finish asap.... ya... quite lot of younger student in my class...(the pts student...and they are very good...maybe is just i am quite dumb ,...well,that is fact since i know i was not clever student since i was in primary school.,,.. thanks god no need translation.... last time apply for russian need also.... but this is malaysia u.... by the way, thanks for the confirm~ ok... i will contact them... coz last time i contact there and one woman said the person in charge is on leave and she gave me hp number....== and when i call him.... he just... welll... u know the feeling while u are on holiday and somebody trouble u ... (why didn't i think about that hope next time he won't on leave.... ya... i feel people here are very friendly and warm~ (except some of the reply...er...the mr.samy one....but i don't really understand it.....poor english.... haha~ i saw roken reply~ many days ago... when i was searching for info for aimst... and i saw his blog... and today finally thought why don't i try for FORUM? and i found it~ This post has been edited by paige halloween: Sep 4 2008, 03:57 PM |
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Sep 2 2008, 09:00 PM
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Sep 2 2008, 09:34 PM
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Jolene :
It's definitely you being friendly. LOL. In fact, you're my senior and i should be the one asking you questions. How do you feel of AIMST now? Lotsa improvements after Prof. Geoffrey came in eh? Haha. Paige: Roken is my batchmate plus roomate! LOL. This world is just so small. Yeah, most of us here has a blog. Jolene has the more popular one, while me the not so. lol. Nyways, you can try searching "aimst" in google. I believe many blogs will pop out by itself. Abi: Hmm, still dun understand. Who kutuk you? Which senior? |
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Sep 2 2008, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(abi @ Sep 2 2008, 10:00 PM) abi: haha chillek lah:) this is pre-ragging before your real ragging. but if you can detect sarcasm, you're quite all right, young man(lady?).Added on September 2, 2008, 9:50 pm QUOTE(csrulez @ Sep 2 2008, 10:34 PM) Jolene : hahaha awwww It's definitely you being friendly. LOL. In fact, you're my senior and i should be the one asking you questions. How do you feel of AIMST now? Lotsa improvements after Prof. Geoffrey came in eh? Haha. and to think we've yet to meet around uni. sigh. (bangga la aimst so big..haha) I think it's pretty good, especially with the recent coverage that the uni received in the papers. Particularly impressed with the tuberculosis research one. Also when I first entered, the MBBS course had no LAN accreditation yet and now you see, two batches of doctors out and about in Malaysia. We were tiny little Year Ones who got ragged by the first batch of MBBS (who were then in Year 4) back in 2005. How time flies! I'm starting Year 4 on Monday! With state of the art architecture on sprawling greens... this feels so damn real compared to our shop lot days. I'd say I definitely feel secure studying in AIMST. Knowing that I'm doing a good course and graduating SOOoon. And the swimming pool is awesome but we need a bloody permanent life guard. This post has been edited by jayelleenelial: Sep 2 2008, 09:54 PM |
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Sep 2 2008, 09:57 PM
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[quote=csrulez,Sep 2 2008, 09:34 PM]
haha~ this is a small wordl~(kedah is not very big....) lecturers are so free? check on their blog,,, (is it they want to see wheteher they have been ...er..well ,,famous in some particular topic.... haha ~ but u all are so good at it~ i try to use english to write at first... but,,, haiz... give up... i cannot express my real feeling when use english.... |
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Sep 2 2008, 10:00 PM
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[quote=paige halloween,Sep 2 2008, 10:57 PM]
[quote=csrulez,Sep 2 2008, 09:34 PM] haha~ this is a small wordl~(kedah is not very big....) lecturers are so free? check on their blog,,, (is it they want to see wheteher they have been ...er..well ,,famous in some particular topic.... haha ~ but u all are so good at it~ i try to use english to write at first... but,,, haiz... give up... i cannot express my real feeling when use english.... [/quote] haha, aww, writing doesn't have to be in only english. If we have good english it's probably because we are bananas and we speak english at home and were thrown Archie comics at when we were barely out of kindergarten. But I really respect those people who can speak english AND chinese damn well. As well as writing in both languages. In AIMST there are not enough bananas, and in my class, there are only two bananas and two others who can speak but cannot read chinese. But when they speak and laugh in mandarin, few seconds later you'll hear me laughing after someone has given me the translation. very kesian. |
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Sep 2 2008, 10:13 PM
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[quote=jayelleenelial,Sep 2 2008, 10:00 PM]
yup~ so i still prefer chinese~kaka~ ya.... i think that is cool... i wish to practice my english... but no one want to talk to me in english.... in school sometimes want to talk english... and my friends just said i want to show off... but it is the only way to improve ,right? well... write in both language is not big problem for me... (common for chinese school student...) in speaking... i think i got some problem communicate in english... just fell kind of... well.... others speak so well... in order not to be laugh... i think i better shut my mouth up and be a good listener or just nod.... haiz.... and i kind of.... not dared to talk to others.... well... so i like to hide in forum.... and words are better than talk for me..... haiz~ |
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Sep 2 2008, 10:15 PM
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[quote=paige halloween,Sep 2 2008, 11:13 PM]
[quote=jayelleenelial,Sep 2 2008, 10:00 PM] yup~ so i still prefer chinese~kaka~ ya.... i think that is cool... i wish to practice my english... but no one want to talk to me in english.... in school sometimes want to talk english... and my friends just said i want to show off... but it is the only way to improve ,right? well... write in both language is not big problem for me... (common for chinese school student...) in speaking... i think i got some problem communicate in english... just fell kind of... well.... others speak so well... in order not to be laugh... i think i better shut my mouth up and be a good listener or just nod.... haiz.... and i kind of.... not dared to talk to others.... well... so i like to hide in forum.... and words are better than talk for me..... haiz~ [/quote] LOL..oh dear, show off?! Then it would be good for you to leave your chinese school environment and be exposed to people who are chinese who don't know how to speak chinese. |
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hey csrulez, this world is really small huh!
well, in my perspective i think that you, paige should take a serious consideration for that dicision. Before i get further on, pls do let me clear your past doubts. see below.... 1. moral(LAN)- yup it is compulsory. it is a LAN paper for the private university's students. Besides that, Malaysian study is also another compulsary paper for us to sit. enjoy them!!!! 2.university's papers- selective papers. all together, 5 of them( 3 english papers counted as 1 paper) 1 and 2- you will take those papers during your degree studies, not in foundation. 3. MUET- too bad, in malaysia's edu u have to sit for that. so good luck in ur muet exam in this october. i think that's all which im able to grab from my blog. hope i can solve your puzzles. well, if u really wanted to let go ur form 6 after any further consideration, then you should have made up your mind in ur coming education. i think csrulez has already brief u about the uni's system rite. before i end here, i think i can give u some guidelines...by the way, is not any golden rules. simply a reference. identify, think, work, and stay. then, enjoy all along!! identify ur needs or doubts think and considerate all the solutions work them out and make wise dicision stay and stick with your interest and dicision finally, enjoy ur studies! all the best! |
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Sep 2 2008, 10:27 PM
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ya...
i think this is the common problem in chinese school... just because we are chinese ,so they don't want to use other language... very few of them will want to talk in english... and as the time go on... no one remember that anymore.... coz don't want to be treat as...er ....betrayer, i suppose... haiz.... so i prefer to communicate with non-chinese... i think it is the best way... however,,,, malay student talk malay to me....== and indian student also use malay... i dunno why .....== and u know what i hate the most? i enter my school's interact club.... i heard they all talk in english...... but the form 3 small kids speak to me in english! coz they think i cannot say proper english! such humiliation(i dunno the spelling ...well..==) well ... defeated by them... why they just don't want to give me the chance ? kaka~ this is ur promise ~ i will remember that~ but hope next time u won't complaint~kaka~ by the way,thanks for that~^^ i am very touched......^^ |
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Sep 2 2008, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(paige halloween @ Sep 2 2008, 11:27 PM) ya... hahahhaa..OH OH, Interact Club was MY LIFE back in high school. i think this is the common problem in chinese school... just because we are chinese ,so they don't want to use other language... very few of them will want to talk in english... and as the time go on... no one remember that anymore.... coz don't want to be treat as...er ....betrayer, i suppose... haiz.... so i prefer to communicate with non-chinese... i think it is the best way... however,,,, malay student talk malay to me....== and indian student also use malay... i dunno why .....== and u know what i hate the most? i enter my school's interact club.... i heard they all talk in english...... but the form 3 small kids speak to me in english! coz they think i cannot say proper english! such humiliation(i dunno the spelling ...well..==) well ... defeated by them... why they just don't want to give me the chance ? kaka~ this is ur promise ~ i will remember that~ but hope next time u won't complaint~kaka~ by the way,thanks for that~^^ i am very touched......^^ aiyoh, susah lah like that. indians usually speak english with chinese. speaking malay to indians and chinese is damn damn weird for me.. I had to speak Malay to some chinese people when I went for national service. Yeah... uni will give you those opportunities. This post has been edited by jayelleenelial: Sep 2 2008, 10:32 PM |
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QUOTE(jayelleenelial @ Sep 2 2008, 10:31 PM) Yeah... uni will give you those opportunities. i got short term memory~ so now is roterant ~kaka~ well...that club... give me many memory... and let me know the cruel of the future world...haiz.... haha~ ya... most of my friends speak malay to those who dunno chinese... dun know why... maybe here is malaysia? but what make me feel worse is ... the indian can speak english to other chinese.... but they just dun want to speak to me in english! look down at me~ national service? how i wish i had the chance~ cantonese?! oh no... i cannot understand all that.... (provided there are subtitle like the movie one.... i wish to learnt but my brain cannot work out all that... i like japanese more ~ (but some of my friends in selangor said it is a MUST to know ~) Added on September 2, 2008, 11:08 pm[quote=rokenlim,Sep 2 2008, 10:24 PM] there is a chinese song name this is a small small world~ kaka~ halo ,nice to see u here~ and sorry about the question in ur blog... i know it makes there messy.... but i was desperate to ask someone at that time... so... sorry about that... no...i dun think i will enjoy moral.... the 36 definition in spm have nearly driven me crazy.... but ... maybe the time and age can change me..... actually i love muet... maybe becoz i like english and muet teacher treat me very well... thanks for ur wish~ i will try my best~ ya.... u, jaye(can i call u like this or..?coz i dun feel like to call u as jay....it sound like jay chou and well...i dun like him very much...) and csrulez help me so much... i appreciate that, really.... wish all of u all the best ~ konbanwa,mina~ This post has been edited by paige halloween: Sep 2 2008, 11:08 PM |
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fuah, if other people drop by our AIMST thread, they'll be laughing their ass out reading our posts....
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Sep 3 2008, 12:12 AM
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alah.. she's trying. at least she knows her weakness! a fresh breath in comparison to those who don't see their own incompetency and still strive..
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Sep 3 2008, 10:49 AM
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MESSAGE FROM ABI THE GREAT
Instead of asking the salary of the jobs, why not ask yourself - What is YOUR interest? For an example, Job A might offer a very good income. But you never liked that job. You took it because of the pay. Will you be happy working? Yes, you got good pay monthly. But at the end of your life, after you've retired, will you feel as if you have wasted your life doing something you never like? Won't you feel like it's a waste? Salary does not matter. Because no matter what fields you are in, there are chances to excel, to get better pay. The opportunities are definitely there. The question is, Are you good enough to be there? Follow your heart; your interest. If you don't like your job, you won't have the enthusiasm to work harder. Well, it is just an opinion. Sorry if anyone feel offended. Good Luck,EVERYONE....... This post has been edited by abi: Sep 3 2008, 10:51 AM |
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Sep 3 2008, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(abi @ Sep 3 2008, 10:49 AM) MESSAGE FROM ABI THE GREAT Then let me ask you back.Instead of asking the salary of the jobs, why not ask yourself - What is YOUR interest? For an example, Job A might offer a very good income. But you never liked that job. You took it because of the pay. Will you be happy working? Yes, you got good pay monthly. But at the end of your life, after you've retired, will you feel as if you have wasted your life doing something you never like? Won't you feel like it's a waste? Salary does not matter. Because no matter what fields you are in, there are chances to excel, to get better pay. The opportunities are definitely there. The question is, Are you good enough to be there? Follow your heart; your interest. If you don't like your job, you won't have the enthusiasm to work harder. Well, it is just an opinion. Sorry if anyone feel offended. Good Luck,EVERYONE....... Job B offers moderate income. But it's the dream job of your life (let's say, working with lab rats and test tubes). Everyday working over time. But, you can't make ends meet. Your house and car installments, fuel, bills, food, tax, give parents some money etc....means you barely have enough for your spouse as well, and nothing left to save up (besides EPF). Yes yes, you have passion. So you'll excel in it. Too bad you're in Malaysia. You'll end up as a biotech lecturer. Everyday conduct lectures. Not much room "to excel, to get bettery pay" And if the pay is so little, do you think you'll have the enthusiasm to work at all? Come on la, money is the best motivation for anyone to move on in life. Btw, there's this good friend of mine who was doing biotech at UMS. He left the place about a year later, and took up MBBS. He said, the lecturers there enlightened him, and advised them to quit while they still can. |
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Sep 3 2008, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(jayelleenelial @ Sep 2 2008, 09:45 PM) hahaha awwww Hahaa. Yeah, haven't got the chance to met up though we're in the same uni. We should, one day! Haha. I think you know Kenneth right? I'm actually quite a close friend to him. Totally agree that time flies, it's been 2 years plus since i first step into aimst. We're actually the first batch of students to have moved into the in campus hostels, this uni has certainly grown alot. I can actually feel kinda proud to study in AIMST now compared to before when you go around mentioning AIMST and nobody knows about it. Haha. Well yeah, the sad thing is that the first few batches of our senior do not have the chance to try out all the facillities in our new campus. And hey, all the best to you there! It'll only be a blink of eye before you find yourself standing for the convocation. and to think we've yet to meet around uni. sigh. (bangga la aimst so big..haha) I think it's pretty good, especially with the recent coverage that the uni received in the papers. Particularly impressed with the tuberculosis research one. Also when I first entered, the MBBS course had no LAN accreditation yet and now you see, two batches of doctors out and about in Malaysia. We were tiny little Year Ones who got ragged by the first batch of MBBS (who were then in Year 4) back in 2005. How time flies! I'm starting Year 4 on Monday! With state of the art architecture on sprawling greens... this feels so damn real compared to our shop lot days. I'd say I definitely feel secure studying in AIMST. Knowing that I'm doing a good course and graduating SOOoon. And the swimming pool is awesome but we need a bloody permanent life guard. QUOTE(rokenlim @ Sep 2 2008, 10:24 PM) hey csrulez, this world is really small huh! Dude punye study principle ar? Indentify, think, work and stay. Then enjoy! Lol. Anyways got you Robbins Patho liao, international ed. At least more worth it to get from IBS or Top Rank. 159 Hard cover. well, in my perspective i think that you, paige should take a serious consideration for that dicision. Before i get further on, pls do let me clear your past doubts. see below.... 1. moral(LAN)- yup it is compulsory. it is a LAN paper for the private university's students. Besides that, Malaysian study is also another compulsary paper for us to sit. enjoy them!!!! 2.university's papers- selective papers. all together, 5 of them( 3 english papers counted as 1 paper) 1 and 2- you will take those papers during your degree studies, not in foundation. 3. MUET- too bad, in malaysia's edu u have to sit for that. so good luck in ur muet exam in this october. i think that's all which im able to grab from my blog. hope i can solve your puzzles. well, if u really wanted to let go ur form 6 after any further consideration, then you should have made up your mind in ur coming education. i think csrulez has already brief u about the uni's system rite. before i end here, i think i can give u some guidelines...by the way, is not any golden rules. simply a reference. identify, think, work, and stay. then, enjoy all along!! identify ur needs or doubts think and considerate all the solutions work them out and make wise dicision stay and stick with your interest and dicision finally, enjoy ur studies! all the best! QUOTE(edge85 @ Sep 3 2008, 12:08 AM) fuah, if other people drop by our AIMST thread, they'll be laughing their ass out reading our posts.... LMAO!sangat memalukan oi.... QUOTE(abi @ Sep 3 2008, 10:49 AM) MESSAGE FROM ABI THE GREAT Hey, great abi. Instead of asking the salary of the jobs, why not ask yourself - What is YOUR interest? For an example, Job A might offer a very good income. But you never liked that job. You took it because of the pay. Will you be happy working? Yes, you got good pay monthly. But at the end of your life, after you've retired, will you feel as if you have wasted your life doing something you never like? Won't you feel like it's a waste? Salary does not matter. Because no matter what fields you are in, there are chances to excel, to get better pay. The opportunities are definitely there. The question is, Are you good enough to be there? Follow your heart; your interest. If you don't like your job, you won't have the enthusiasm to work harder. Well, it is just an opinion. Sorry if anyone feel offended. Good Luck,EVERYONE....... Haha. Yeah, all this while i do not deny that interests do play an important in your studies and career. But trust me, when you come out to the society you'll see how the income affects you. You can't say salary does not matter, it does, to a lesser extent. Working opportunities is another thing, it depends on how competent you are and also the market when you graduate. If there's no market, no matter how competent you'll still find it hard to secure a job. And do remember that there are also thousands of graduates coming out at the same time competing for the job that you're interested in if that happens. Nobody's feeling offended here, no worries. Did you copied this from the other thread? Looks kinda familliar to me. |
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Sep 3 2008, 02:58 PM
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definitely not from him.......coz his will APPEAR LIKE THIS.......or with GOODER GRAMMAR.....
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Sep 3 2008, 03:02 PM
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Sep 3 2008, 03:04 PM
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LOL. I can detect sarcasm here weih. Oh my, AIMST thread. LMAO.
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Sep 3 2008, 03:07 PM
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Sep 3 2008, 03:12 PM
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Ohhh, that Mr. English's grandmother arh? Mine's fine. I think. LOL. If this is still not sarcasm, i dunno what is. LMAO. Hey Jolene, you guys on hols?
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Sep 3 2008, 04:19 PM
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[quote=edge85,Sep 3 2008, 02:58 PM]
definitely not from him.......coz his will APPEAR LIKE THIS.......or with GOODER GRAMMAR..... [/q TO EDGE 85 AND YOUR "SUPER FRIEND" EXCUSE ME.... I NEVER MENTIONED ABOUT ANY COURSE....OR ANYONE HERE. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY U ARE SO BUSY BODY...... JUST KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT IT IS NOT MEAN THAT ONCE YOUR "SUPER" FRIEND CANT EXCEL IN BIOTECH FIELD...... DONT THINK THAT EVERYONE GOING TO BE LIKE THAT.... COME ON LAH...... JUST GOOGLE BIOTECH JOBS IN MALAYSIA...... U CAN FIND THOUSANDS JOB..... ASK YOUR "SUPER" FRIEND TO SMART A BIT... EVEN CAN DO A LOT PART TIME JOB................... I WANT ASK U SOMETHING..... ONCE A PERSON FINISH MBBS....HOW MUCH U CAN EARN.....ROUGHLY 2K TO 3K... successfully graduating as medical doctor,graduates are required to undergo compulsory service with the government for 4 years.The first year is a graduate training programme or housemanship.After 4 year,Medical Officer will be allowed to further their studies in Master Specialists courses about 5 years.After qualifying their master degree,graduates will be appointed as medical specialists and as consultants. JUST LOOK HOW MANY YEARS NEED IF WANT TO BE SOME ONE SPECIAL IN MBBS FIELD.....SOOOOOOOO..................SAMEGOES TO BIOTECH...... TRY TO BE OPEN MINDED........WE ARE IN 2008 NOT 2000.... BUCK UP This post has been edited by abi: Sep 3 2008, 04:21 PM |
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Sep 3 2008, 05:02 PM
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talking to u, it's like talking to a wooden stick...technically i've eaten more salt and watched more porn that you ever did....
and why are you so F-U-C-K-I-N-G RUDE? YOU THINK I'M BLIND? WTF U PUT CAPS EVERYWHERE FOR? CB, U COME TO AIMST I SURE FIND U! U WAIT LA, INSULTING MY EYE SIGHT HUH? U WAIT!!! caps or not, your message is still the same. no extra emphasis if all capitalised. you can't even argue with solid facts, but faith. are you a christian? christians make me puke guts. and with faith alone, you expect me to believe you? p/s i'll report to the moderator if you don't listen.... This post has been edited by edge85: Sep 3 2008, 05:11 PM |
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Sep 3 2008, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(edge85 @ Sep 3 2008, 05:02 PM) talking to u, it's like talking to a wooden stick...technically i've eaten more salt and watched more porn that you ever did.... what your problem man???? i never disturb u at all..... that was my opinion.... did i mention any course over there.... then......and why are you so F-U-C-K-I-N-G RUDE? YOU THINK I'M BLIND? WTF U PUT CAPS EVERYWHERE FOR? CB, U COME TO AIMST I SURE FIND U! U WAIT LA, INSULTING MY EYE SIGHT HUH? U WAIT!!! caps or not, your message is still the same. no extra emphasis if all capitalised. you can't even argue with solid facts, but faith. are you a christian? christians make me puke guts. and with faith alone, you expect me to believe you? p/s i'll report to the moderator if you don't listen.... pls...... dont talk anything about biotech if u dont know it....... anyway.... i am sorry if hurts u...... never be rude with anyone......sorry |
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Sep 3 2008, 05:57 PM
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Dear Abi,
It's just an opinion dude, you dun have to take it so seriously. Try to think wider, and learn how to accept people's opinion. Even if it's not nice to hear, this is what you're gonna face in the future during your studies and also after you graduate. You won't wanna place caps all over your words and ask the others to shut their mouth up when you hear something you dun like isn't it? Chill la. Firstly, there's no discrimination about biotechnologist. We're just giving you ideas on what will the biotech market be like after you graduate. Truths are hard to accept sometimes, but this is what most of the biotech graduates are facing now. We're just pinpointing the problem, and it depends on how you see it yourself. Of course you can excel, but DEFINITELY NOT with this kinda attitude dude. Trust me, change your attitude before you come aimst. Else, you'll be beated up for no reasons. Just a piece of advice from your seniors la. So, chillek laa. AND, you did not hurt any of us. Just that u made some of us go pissed off sometimes. So, if can jaga jaga la your words alright. Chillllll. |
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Sep 3 2008, 06:05 PM
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Neways, i heard there's a cultural night thing this coming saturday....got what nice to see oh?
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Sep 3 2008, 08:50 PM
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well... i understand that czrulez.....
but how do u feel when some one giving opinion like that about the course u going to take soon.... come lah just say something good.... its something like that person putting pressure on me........ okay my dear seniors................. this going to be my last post here...... better to switch off from here... have fun ok..... thank u so much good bye.....good luck to u all This post has been edited by abi: Sep 3 2008, 08:51 PM |
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Sep 3 2008, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE(abi @ Sep 3 2008, 08:50 PM) well... i understand that czrulez..... wah so fast give up....forgot to say GOTCHA!!!but how do u feel when some one giving opinion like that about the course u going to take soon.... come lah just say something good.... its something like that person putting pressure on me........ okay my dear seniors................. this going to be my last post here...... better to switch off from here... have fun ok..... thank u so much good bye.....good luck to u all |
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Sep 3 2008, 11:03 PM
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LOL. MTV Punk'd. You're punk'd, abi.
Dude, please just continue posting in this thread la. We're just messing around only, study stress la. Haha. Trust me, this is going to be so much better than the real orientation you're gonna have by your seniors. Haha. And really, theres nothing wrong with biotech. I have quite a number of friends in the course too, your seniors. They're all doing real good. As for the mega cultural night, i heard there are some external artiste performing. Something like a cultural show, but i bet indian dance will dominate. Will be held at the great hall, should be something big i guess. Haha. This post has been edited by csrulez: Sep 3 2008, 11:08 PM |
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Sep 3 2008, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(csrulez @ Sep 4 2008, 12:03 AM) LOL. MTV Punk'd. You're punk'd, abi. haha at the facebook group some guy asked, "Is it really gonna be a multicultural event? "Dude, please just continue posting in this thread la. We're just messing around only, study stress la. Haha. Trust me, this is going to be so much better than the real orientation you're gonna have by your seniors. Haha. And really, theres nothing wrong with biotech. I have quite a number of friends in the course too, your seniors. They're all doing real good. As for the mega cultural night, i heard there are some external artiste performing. Something like a cultural show, but i bet indian dance will dominate. Will be held at the great hall, should be something big i guess. Haha. It garnered quite a bit of reactions from people who were quite offended. But I felt that he did make a point, but he should walk the talk and organize more performances. Honestly, I am sick of anything Chinese, malay or indian. Ever since I entered AIMST, it has been indian dance, chinese dance and admittedly not enough of Malay dances. Something like the Musical that the medicine faculty put up recently was pretty good. If it is to be a Mega Cultural Night... I'll expect the Kenyans to come up with something. or maybe even any of us adopting some other culture for just one night and putting n a show. Not just the usual three yeah? And cultural.... only sounds exotic when it's out of Malaysia..like somewhere where there are truly students from each and every corner of the world. But all the best to those who are working hard on this! This post has been edited by jayelleenelial: Sep 3 2008, 11:25 PM |
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Sep 4 2008, 11:26 AM
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whens the closing date of apply for dentistry?whens will the class start?
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Sep 4 2008, 12:39 PM
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Closing date for application is Sept 8 this year. Courses will commence on one week after if i've not mistaken. Give AIMST a call or check out their website, it seems that places are really limited.
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Sep 4 2008, 02:01 PM
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No such thing as closing date lah...i entered 2 weeks late, still accepted...(result bagus kalau, duit ready, semua pun bleh)
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Sep 4 2008, 05:18 PM
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Hi everyone. A foundation student from AIMST reporting in. I have not been in here for quite a while. Anyway, I'm still have my term exams. Maths. So, I suppose I should go and study now instead of onlining here. =D
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Sep 4 2008, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(jia6 @ Sep 4 2008, 12:26 PM) wow.. this is really last minute..I just got back from orientating (not the wet one, edge85!) the juniors..like briefing them about the coming years. So... yeah, dentistry has started. But classes start on Monday. Please call AIMST and enquire if you can still sign up. My house mate joined one month late too. |
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Sep 4 2008, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(jayelleenelial @ Sep 4 2008, 05:22 PM) wow.. this is really last minute.. apa macam, banyak leng lui ah? I just got back from orientating (not the wet one, edge85!) the juniors..like briefing them about the coming years. So... yeah, dentistry has started. But classes start on Monday. Please call AIMST and enquire if you can still sign up. My house mate joined one month late too. |
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Sep 4 2008, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(edge85 @ Sep 4 2008, 08:12 PM) boleh lah boss. but nampak macam all baik-baik that type. more subdued compared to your batch and Batch 3. Like Batch 3 got alot of gila-gila boys... so orientation, maybe the seniors more noisy that type. but still early days...Got two Seychelles students coming in though! |
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Sep 4 2008, 08:34 PM
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Uh Seychelles?! Hotties???
*nose bleeds* pls la, if they're any baik-er than my batch i'll kill myself...my batch too baik dy, i need a little more 'naughty' to feel human again....muahahahahaha.... This post has been edited by edge85: Sep 4 2008, 08:40 PM |
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Sep 4 2008, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(edge85 @ Sep 4 2008, 09:34 PM) Uh Seychelles?! Hotties??? lol loll ol... uhhh!! one of them is a guy..and he emailed me to ask about dentistry. *nose bleeds* pls la, if they're any baik-er than my batch i'll kill myself...my batch too baik dy, i need a little more 'naughty' to feel human again....muahahahahaha.... LOL.. ah, but you have enough naughty people to keep you sane mah. My batch less drama but all lepak lepak then pass that type. But the turnout was pretty bad.. 35 people. 41 registered though.. so first week already got budak jahat skip orientasi. And we were told that the government has approved for the course to get 75 per intake. |
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Sep 4 2008, 09:13 PM
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Yeah, i heard that the offer letter came out damn late...i guess some of them got worried, n went over to the n00b IMU n n00b PIDC.....wat waste......
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Sep 4 2008, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(edge85 @ Sep 4 2008, 10:13 PM) Yeah, i heard that the offer letter came out damn late...i guess some of them got worried, n went over to the n00b IMU n n00b PIDC.....wat waste...... ahaha.. i don't know when PIDC starts... but in the sense that IMU and AIMST have different times of intake... it won't affect each other that much, i guess. like some people might not want to wait so long to get to IMU/AIMST, and end up at either course. |
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QUOTE(jayelleenelial @ Sep 4 2008, 09:41 PM) ahaha.. i don't know when PIDC starts... but in the sense that IMU and AIMST have different times of intake... it won't affect each other that much, i guess. like some people might not want to wait so long to get to IMU/AIMST, and end up at either course. ya that makes sense...didn't thought of it...heck i used not to know which uni offeres BDS/DDS, had no interest at all back then......omg, think of all the leng luis who changed course....wat a waste wei! |
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Sep 4 2008, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(edge85 @ Sep 4 2008, 11:44 PM) ya that makes sense...didn't thought of it...heck i used not to know which uni offeres BDS/DDS, had no interest at all back then...... hahahah.. that's why, let's go to the conferences man. omg, think of all the leng luis who changed course....wat a waste wei! |
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Sep 5 2008, 05:22 AM
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Hmm...rm6k rite....let's go....i try to save up......
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Sep 5 2008, 06:54 AM
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i have question (i am not going to argue with anyone since i am in good mood today)
can i bring my own pillow and my teddy bear together with me on coming 8 sept or they will provide us one??? Added on September 5, 2008, 11:07 am QUOTE(abi @ Sep 5 2008, 06:54 AM) i have question (i am not going to argue with anyone since i am in good mood today) i have another question too.....why they ask me to bring sport shoes during orientation??? any sport event there ??can i bring my own pillow and my teddy bear together with me on coming 8 sept or they will provide us one??? need your help guys This post has been edited by abi: Sep 5 2008, 11:07 AM |
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Sep 5 2008, 01:26 PM
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Haha. Pillow will be provided but not the teddy bear, but i'll still recommend you to bring your own pillow as new pillow won't be provided. You'll be using the pillow of god knows how many of em' have used before. And basically, you can bring almost anything to your hostel. It's gonna be your room for the next few years. =)
As for the sport shoes, yeah i think you should have one. Not only for the orientation but for future uses, such as the sport facillities. Running tracks, badminton, basketball etc. I think you need a sport shoes for that. |
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QUOTE(csrulez @ Sep 5 2008, 01:26 PM) Haha. Pillow will be provided but not the teddy bear, but i'll still recommend you to bring your own pillow as new pillow won't be provided. You'll be using the pillow of god knows how many of em' have used before. And basically, you can bring almost anything to your hostel. It's gonna be your room for the next few years. =) thank u so much....czrulez..... for info......really useful.... of course i have my own teddy bear... sure i am going to bring.... again thank uAs for the sport shoes, yeah i think you should have one. Not only for the orientation but for future uses, such as the sport facillities. Running tracks, badminton, basketball etc. I think you need a sport shoes for that. |
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Sep 5 2008, 03:49 PM
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so many AIMST here...
now AIMST oredi moved to merbok there? |
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You should say, so many AIMST'er here. Haha. And we've moved to Semeling. Our new campus.
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Sep 5 2008, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE(edge85 @ Sep 5 2008, 03:49 PM) edge85a very good question.....there is any rulez stated that a guy shouldnt bring teddy bear to hostel??? if got means let me know..... edge85.... i think whatever u said about biotech may be correct......... so i will do my level best not to be like your friend ok thank u so much for that info all.... anyway.... u must allow me to bring my teddy bear pls... i cant sleep without it have a good day This post has been edited by abi: Sep 5 2008, 06:49 PM |
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Sep 5 2008, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE(abi @ Sep 5 2008, 07:48 PM) edge85 ahhaa i used to have a small pillow that i called 'chicken backside'. It magically disappeared one morning.a very good question.....there is any rulez stated that a guy shouldnt bring teddy bear to hostel??? if got means let me know..... edge85.... i think whatever u said about biotech may be correct......... so i will do my level best not to be like your friend ok thank u so much for that info all.... anyway.... u must allow me to bring my teddy bear pls... i cant sleep without it have a good day |
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Sep 5 2008, 11:42 PM
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I had a little bolster when i was young too, had it till i was standard 6 and my mom threw it away cause accidentally found some fungus in it. Can't sleep for 1 whole month w/o it. Haha. Great childhood memories.
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Sep 6 2008, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(abi @ Sep 5 2008, 06:48 PM) edge85 you got me wrong dude....i have a teddy bear on my bed too....the cute little tortoise, duno wat u call it....n that's totally metal....a very good question.....there is any rulez stated that a guy shouldnt bring teddy bear to hostel??? if got means let me know..... edge85.... i think whatever u said about biotech may be correct......... so i will do my level best not to be like your friend ok thank u so much for that info all.... anyway.... u must allow me to bring my teddy bear pls... i cant sleep without it have a good day *not friend. friendS. This post has been edited by edge85: Sep 6 2008, 09:11 AM |
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Sep 6 2008, 03:58 PM
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hey seniors..........
i have one more question....after orientation week.(monday to friday right).weekend..can leave the hostel ahh??or have to stay in hostel ?? it is compulsory to attend orientation or can truant?? |
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Sep 6 2008, 04:52 PM
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Yes, you can. To be true you can leave the hostel you like anytime larh, it's your home. No worries. You can actually see lotsa people going back every weekends, even if it's not an orientation day. And i would suggest you to join the orientation programme la, once in a lifetime experience. After that, you won't be experiencing the same thing ever again anymore in your student's life. However, it's not compulsory.
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Sep 12 2008, 08:20 PM
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kikikikikikikikikiki
i already step into aimst...... not bad LAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH EVERYTHING IS FINE HERE...food.... is always lousy....lecture is simply superb... i mean for biotech department... so guys come and join aimst........ |
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Sep 15 2008, 12:10 AM
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hey, when aimst pharmacy start? they told me go there at wednesday 17
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Sep 15 2008, 07:22 AM
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what holiday?
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Sep 18 2008, 06:59 PM
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Sep 18 2008, 09:12 PM
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no i'm too free....wassup bro....
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Sep 20 2008, 10:15 AM
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Nothing to update. Nothing's happening in aimst. Haha. Plus, finals coming juniors entering lotsa things to get prepared.
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Sep 27 2008, 12:10 PM
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can anyone help 2 me 2 comfirm d next intake for the bachelor of pharmacy? is it on January of July? tq
Added on September 27, 2008, 12:18 pmis it the Bachelor of Pharmacy in AIMST is recognized by Pharmaceutical Services Division, Ministry of Health Malaysia? i didn see AIMST in their list... This post has been edited by patricktiew: Sep 27 2008, 12:18 PM |
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Sep 28 2008, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(patricktiew @ Sep 27 2008, 12:10 PM) can anyone help 2 me 2 comfirm d next intake for the bachelor of pharmacy? is it on January of July? tq hello patrick.....Added on September 27, 2008, 12:18 pmis it the Bachelor of Pharmacy in AIMST is recognized by Pharmaceutical Services Division, Ministry of Health Malaysia? i didn see AIMST in their list... the next intake for pharmacy will be on next september..... or u still can join pharmacy.... should be like that... why dont u contact aimst....and find out.... aimst contact number is 04-4298000.. thank u hope to see u as aimst student..... i am not sure wheater its recognized or not... because i am doing biotech right now...sorry |
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Sep 29 2008, 01:05 AM
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i use to go there for my traning use their track, my opinion there is alot indian chicks damn pretty huh. i was there for unity race also 07.
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Sep 29 2008, 02:24 AM
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Latest batch of BPharm freshies has been admitted on Sept 2008, which means that the next latest intake would be Sept 2009. The BPharm programme in AIMST is recognised by MQA but not the Board of Pharmacy M'sia as the first batch of students are in their final year currently. Try giving AIMST a ring to find out on the latest updates, else you can visit www.aimst.edu.my. Hope i've helped you abit on the brief info. Not from school of pharmacy though.
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Sep 29 2008, 10:43 PM
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i wanna ask, how much difference in terms of quality will i expect if i were to buy a cheap/expensive stethoscope?
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Sep 30 2008, 04:51 PM
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how 2 go AIMST by bus from KL?
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Sep 30 2008, 06:38 PM
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take a bus to the sungai petani bus station......you may want to take a cab straight to the campus (will cost you about RM10-RM15).....as for public buses, the MARA Liner bus should stop in aimst itself....
ask around when you're at the bus station, i'm sure the locals will help... |
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Oct 1 2008, 12:44 AM
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Stethoscope highly recommended by clinical lecturers and doctors would be the 3M Littman classic SE II. Price would be around 200 plus. Well, in terms of qualities it does vary. Sound would be better amplified and less noises if you're getting the more expensive stets. Our lecturer used to advice us to invest in a good stet, which can be used even after your studies.
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Oct 1 2008, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(csrulez @ Oct 1 2008, 12:44 AM) Stethoscope highly recommended by clinical lecturers and doctors would be the 3M Littman classic SE II. Price would be around 200 plus. Well, in terms of qualities it does vary. Sound would be better amplified and less noises if you're getting the more expensive stets. Our lecturer used to advice us to invest in a good stet, which can be used even after your studies. so you recommend against buying a RM30 one lah? |
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Oct 1 2008, 11:00 PM
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LOL. You managed to find a 30 bucks one? Recond set? Do not mind buying it if it's a good brand. Haha.
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Oct 2 2008, 02:28 PM
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aimst internet speed good =)
but cant download =[ sob sob |
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Oct 2 2008, 05:13 PM
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Oct 3 2008, 12:08 AM
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50 per intake. So far 4 batches are already in. One intake per year on Sept. And yes, seats are fully taken from batch 1 to batch 4.
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Oct 3 2008, 06:51 AM
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why there is thousands of files in cafeteria......???i am wondering,,,,,,why.....
as usual foods are always lousy......the best in aimst is the lectures over there... u people simply superb |
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Oct 3 2008, 09:41 AM
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Cause of cow dunks and the pig farms beside the campus. I freaking hate flies. Especially during their mating season. Disgusting.
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Oct 3 2008, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE(csrulez @ Oct 3 2008, 09:41 AM) Cause of cow dunks and the pig farms beside the campus. I freaking hate flies. Especially during their mating season. Disgusting. The Student Council had brought this matter forward, and they MAY BE sealing up the cafeteria, ie it's gonna be glassed up....csrulez, u missed out the landfill... |
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Oct 4 2008, 04:16 PM
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Hahaha. AIMST, sealing up the cafeteria. Improvements regarding money, we'll see we'll see. Hopefully they'll really do something about it. I heard they'll be separating hostel and meal fees starting november too, how true is it? Any idea guys?
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Oct 6 2008, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(patricktiew @ Oct 2 2008, 05:13 PM) r u study in AIMST? yup there still vacancy, but i think its over dee, u can try by coming here i 1 2 know how much place available 4 bachelor of pharmacy n is it d place is full from 1st batch until now? pls kindly tell me tq. if u don know or u r not from pharmacy, then forget it. the girl told me was be4 raya |
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Oct 6 2008, 04:38 PM
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The next intake will be on september 2009. Current sept 2008 intake is full.
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Oct 7 2008, 12:30 AM
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Oct 7 2008, 12:52 AM
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i say, the internet is an amazing thing!
did you know that there's this website called www.aimst.edu.my? I think I remember seeing a phone number somewhere where credible information can be obtained. Technology. Got to love it. This post has been edited by jayelleenelial: Oct 7 2008, 12:53 AM |
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Oct 12 2008, 01:36 PM
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hi guys. Anybody here?? New aimst student here .
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Oct 12 2008, 02:42 PM
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Oct 12 2008, 04:31 PM
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dentistry, u?
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Oct 12 2008, 05:32 PM
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Oct 12 2008, 05:36 PM
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HI senior!!! Yes, year 1 BDS. Housemate of SIva BDS 3rd year. FOr sure u know him right?
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Oct 12 2008, 07:26 PM
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Oct 12 2008, 08:08 PM
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Oct 12 2008, 08:23 PM
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Oct 12 2008, 09:13 PM
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i was late too, and now i'm already in my third year.....so i guess you'll do fine....
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Oct 12 2008, 09:37 PM
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Edge85, r u staying in the hostel?
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Oct 13 2008, 07:54 AM
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i moved out....for an improved quality of life =)
it's also cheaper if you move out.....let's say RM100 for a room, RM10x30 days for food....that totals to about RM400. This post has been edited by edge85: Oct 13 2008, 07:55 AM |
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Oct 13 2008, 07:03 PM
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Problem is I don't have a car. Are you staying with your friends?
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Oct 13 2008, 08:08 PM
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Yeah, with batchmates...it's much more convenient that way....plus they got cars.....easy to move around.....
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Oct 13 2008, 10:41 PM
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aww i just knew that there is no feb intake in 2009 for med. =(
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Oct 14 2008, 08:43 PM
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any one here from biotech batch 13??
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