and it is paradoxical and ironical, don't you think, that when in a certain country, you do not qualify (even if  you have money), you can then go to another country and pay money and get a place......??

read my posts again.......carefully.......i make no blanket judgement on any particular student......only the system.......

med schools in msia, both ipts and ipta, are mediocre.......none has achieved any excellence....even um has dumbed down.......as reflected in it's lost of gmc registration and world ranking......getting and keeping good lecturers and teachers are the underlying problems......

the main problem is however, admission policy......if you don't select the right students, you end up with the wrong doctors.......the spectrum of students is so broad, you get the very good to the very bad.....that is wrong........it should be the very good to the good........

i am very critical in this area........i strongly believe mediocre students should NOT be allowed to "try'.......because the system is NOT robust enough to weed them out ('not allowed to fail' policy)......and bad doctors are actually allowed to graduate.....

i was initially critical of imu's admission policy too, they are too lax in entry requirements, but they made up for this by having a robust exam system, daring to fail those who do not make the grades........this they have to do, because eventually, it is NOT imu who decides who passes, it's the pms, who will decide who can be accepted into their med schools..........and they tolerate no compromise of standards.....and those who went through the pms through the years have graduated comfortably compared with the home students.....