599 GTB


458 Italia


458 Italia


599 GTB


F430


Enzo

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Mar 29 2013, 08:40 PM

Hahaha, ok don't buy exotics then, just buy normal Japanese cars.

join Hyundai forum and you can see how bad Hyundais are
join chevrolet forum and you can see how bad chevvys are
same thing with Suzuki, italian marques etc.......
Look at survey.org, look at the volvos....

I see no difference between proton and the other cars. I've owned 3 protons in my life and 1 mazda and 1 ford.

Get a good service center to address your issues and you will be fine....

+1

Malaysia car made by human, same as other country. Maybe Malaysia still weak on something, but what we expect for? People just forget in other country when a new automotive car opening they sure weak in something. And they learn from their wrong, that how they success.

If you lived in Selangor, I'd suggest u go to Intan Matang SC at Shah Alam. Pretty good i'd tell you. cheaper from others too. also can bring own oil.

based on own experience and family car.

1. Perdana 1995-2000 - Manual transmission. First batch perdana got MT. Colour was some sort of dark purple.
-After getting car noticed that the AC direction for head also come out at feet, change whatever you want, AC still come out at head. No idea why. Brought to SC, they cannot fix. Expected since bought the car the same week it was launched. SC pomen not trained yet. However after trained, still cannot fix. They say inherent problem to the car.
- few years down proton recall because of suspension problem, so that replacement part was free. No problems detected in daily usage.
- One time a katak entered the car while wearing shoe in car (late for school). The katak jump into front driver pedal area and disappear. Later AC smell very bad. Bring to SC, they found katak already dead and stuck to AC belt
- After 3 years, front bumper twist at joint area just below the front lights. Inherent problem to all Perdana's. Front bumper too heavy causing the twist.

Sold car in 2000 after:
- hujan lebat at east coast-spare tyre become aquarium. Rear seat become wet the moment you apply pressure.
- Also, if you open AC after turn on car, the car sound like one kind of elephant. Only present for first 10 mins. However, if turn on AC after 15 mins moving, no sound. SC say the AC fan got a small chip, causing sound. AC wise, nothing wrong.

2. Proton Savvy 2004-2006 (MT)
- bought this cause Myvi and picanto long waiting list. Savvy can own within a month.
- Only problem, from showroom, if you want to drive straight, need to angle steering at 11 O'clock. Brought to SC and that was corrected instantly. No problems there.
-Sold in 2006 because I don't actually use a car in the first place. Only use motor for work. Car only needed for transportation for goods for job earlier. Unused.

3. Proton Perdana V6 (2008-)
- No major problems with the car except it is under used since using Accord. As a result, the car battery keeps dieing.
- Front passenger window not working.
- Compared with the first perdana, aside from the leather seats, upgraded HUD, the car layout is pretty much the same.
- That twisting at the front bumper exists after 3 years.
- Some sort of black sponge coming out of AC vent, no idea what this is.

TS, if you want to buy a Proton car, buy model that is at least 1 year old. Like Preve, can buy now. Safe bet. If buy early, SC cannot service, since they have no idea how to service. Also, the problems with first batch all solve with time. By the time any model get FL, problem all solved with original design, so safer bet. Also, buy a car not that old in its life. The original Perdana lasted until Inspira which is a very long time.


Will I buy a proton again? Yes, if Inspira. Not sure if Preve. Why not, SC everywhere, can pick and choose.

Will it be a MT car? Maybe not. Road now jam, unlike 10 years ago. Less fun when driving since always stop-go traffic. Want to drive long distance during raya also jam. Also, aside from the "new" Satria R3, all other MT cars have less accessories/spec compared to the AT model.

If I got tons of cash, will I choose different car?
Yes. However, if have expensive car park at house - magnet for thieves. Better buy proton

proton iswara since 2000,nothing wrong with the car except AC..plan to get new car,preve/inspira 1 choice since it fall between my budjet

buy any bentley or maserati if ferrari and lambo got reliability issue
so many choice out there
i wonder when one buying a exotic car what is he thinking

This post has been edited by edison1437: Mar 30 2013, 11:06 AM

Maserati:


Bentley:




Ok, maybe at least the Bentley didn't spontaneously started to burn (people mad at the owner cause he used up 3 (!) parking spots). But with Lambo and Ferrari it is known that they may spontaneously burst into flames. Owner parks the car, goes away, comes back and all that is left is a bit of burnt rubber, plastic, leather and metal. Or it may happen while driving. Maserati probably has the same issue. And so does Tata...



Happens to Proton too it seems, though not as frequent (look at how many Protons are out there, vs. Ferraris, and see how many Protons caught fire, vs Ferraris.

http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/...aught-fire-kepp

And don't say Toyota...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/driveon/2012...recall/1624003/
Camry and Yaris (Vios) also affected. Did they issue an recall here...? 7.43 million cars affected, sold world wide, so probably here too...

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Mar 30 2013, 12:02 PM

Are you trying to say Protons are better than others?

Nah, just that you can't say Proton is very bad and others are flawless. Which one is worse I don't know. Would have to make bigger surveys where all car owners will participate. And even then the question remains how much people care for their car... If it is cheap they probably care less.

Maybe we should talk how bad is Toyota

Vios:




Overall Toyota issue: Defect on Pedal sudden acceleration



http://www.wpri.com/dpp/news/12_for_action...edal-settlement

This post has been edited by b48753: Mar 30 2013, 02:36 PM

You shouldn't blame cars for idiotic drivers, unless the handling is really too bad to keep the car under control under normal situations.


It's not the Skoda's fault that the driver went way too fast, left the road, went over a small ramp/hill and flew 7 meters high into a Church.

proton is a car, just like any car manufacture.

try not to blame proton, the part are made by vendor and subvendor...proton only assemble it...

how the thing happen to low quality coz of the vendor want to cut cost on material buying and use cheap material and keep recycle the material....sell it at the same price as high grade material...

however whenever proton detect reject it will be sent back to vendor for replacement and still vendor will smuggle those reject among the approve one into proton...

When buying a Proton.

Do not rush your salesman to get your car delivery in a ridiculous time frame.

All rushed order will skipped QC part from QC site at Sijangkang, Banting.

Trust me...

How long must give time for proper QC?

If you have time you can click through this:
http://www.autobild.de/bilder/tops-und-flo...ng-1014682.html

Basically the magazine buys a car, their employees drive them for 100000 km (some 200000 km) within usually 2 years, and then they take the cars apart and examine them. They report on their experiences and especially breakdowns/faulty parts/things that had to be replaced. Every defect, depending on the seriousness, is given a certain number of points, and after adding them up they know which cars were reliable and which weren't. Now they only tested one car per model, but it still is a good indication.
The gallery shows all the cars they have tested, and ranks them from worst to best. That VW is at the very bottom shows that they are quite honest... this magazine is very pro-VW. Basic findings: 2000-2006ish VWs avoid at all cost, they are bloody awful. Early French and Italian cars were bad, newer ones are good average to really reliable. Toyota is average at best (Yaris didn't do well), only the Prius models are reliable (but they are really extremely reliable). Honda is ok to good. Mazda is very, very reliable. As much as VW took over almost every bottom 5 spot, Mazda took over almost every top 5 spot. DSG was not a problem in any car, but some turbos had to be replaced and some engines blew up. Also, a lot has happened in the last 5-10 years, brands that used to be very reliable aren't anymore, and very unreliable brands are now reliable.

You can ask Google Translate for help if something is unclear.

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Mar 31 2013, 03:25 AM

people say sucks but they r still driving myvi or proton because they cant afford

100% agreed