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 V10 - Property Prices (Up, Down or .....), and the debate goes on and on and on ...

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zuiko407
post May 9 2013, 06:23 PM

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505 gone with the wind, and still remain the old government, anyone or friends get cheap stuff so far???
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post May 9 2013, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(firee818 @ May 9 2013, 10:04 AM)
That is Sales and Service Tax (SST) @ 6%. that is introduced in Year 1972.

Sales and Service Tax (SST) @ 6% is only imposed on certain services and industrial sectors e.g.hotels accomodation charges, professional charges (lawyer fee, audit fee and etc), telecommuincation service charges and etc.

However, the income from SST are not enough to cover some unnecessary spending (e.g. corruption , white elephant projects, etc)  by the gov't. Thus, BN gov't suggested to introduce GST (Goods and Servive tax) to replace SST (Sales and Service tax).

The major difference between GST and SST is that GST is a tax that imposed on almost every sector of the public and thus all the people are affected regardless of whether you are poor or not. Whereas SST generally tends to tax on rich people. e.g. You have your lunch at hotel, then they charge you 6% SST. If you go to kopitam, then no SST charges on your lunch.

Hope this explanation clear your doubt. Google yourself for more details between Sales and Services tax 1972 and Goods and Service Tax (GST)
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Thanks a lot on your clarifications. I do know about the SST, however, the parking receipt stated GST which is either typo or truly SST, just the term used is misleading.
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post May 9 2013, 11:36 PM

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After election, any hope for ddd camp to buy cheap property other thn 999,999 units of affordable home, if you choose to believe this manifesto janji dicapati? with soon to be implemented GST, soon to be increased petrol price, built thn sell home, ever increasing cost of living, etc, any more hope for price to come down? appreciate one can keep posting more housing and economic data to give some hope. dont ask more fr gomen, apa mau lagi. lain kali lah.
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post May 10 2013, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(kochin @ May 9 2013, 01:19 PM)
are we a growing nation or shrinking nation in terms of population?
do some research on the term growth population to understand better.

then do some research in terms of the supply.
the data available for supply, does it include:
1. soho?
2. sohai, soxo, sofo, sovo, etc?

previous supply sizes versus current supply sizes and its capacity to undertake the number of occupants.

we need to learn how to interpret reports and unfortunately many reports lacks key explanations on their databases.
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we are growing nation in therms of population but only because we have more bangla, indon, filipina that got that card ma.

we are not growing nation in terms of population for malaysian wo. Indian/ chinese/ malay now can migrate lio lo.

need to do research meah? the data already out there wat? apa you mau lagi? lol

sure those type demand for bangla up la. and those migrate to australia la, canada one drop la. whistling.gif




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post May 10 2013, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(kochin @ May 8 2013, 06:35 PM)
1,000,000 units over 5 years.
200,000 units per year
545 units to be launched everyday to fulfill quota.
dream on....
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u don't know one meah? LOL

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post May 10 2013, 08:34 AM

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505 BN "win" is actually the best news for the DDDDDD camp (but sadly, very bad news for Malaysia in general).

If PR win actually I revise my position to be in up camp, but sad for you flippers - BN cheat and win.

This means: More cronyism, more corruption, more throwing goodies (now got to double the BR1M, bla bla bla) = more debt. Just a matter of time....before the house of cards collapse smile.gif

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post May 10 2013, 09:15 AM

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The price will remain stagnant.
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post May 10 2013, 09:43 AM

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That is one way ticket - up for BN. Rich will be getting richer. Poor will be struggling. Good luck for our future.
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QUOTE(kh8668 @ May 10 2013, 09:43 AM)
That is one way ticket - up for BN. Rich will be getting richer. Poor will be struggling. Good luck for our future.
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Or join the rich! biggrin.gif
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post May 10 2013, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(tat3179 @ May 10 2013, 09:45 AM)
Or join the rich!  biggrin.gif
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Since MCA and Gelakan now dead - I think for you no hope la Tat.

Unless you convert and become bin Abdullah - then can join UMNO. tongue.gif
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post May 10 2013, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(joeblows @ May 10 2013, 09:48 AM)
Since MCA and Gelakan now dead - I think for you no hope la Tat.

Unless you convert and become bin Abdullah - then can join UMNO. tongue.gif
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Aiyah...don't be so pessimisticlah joe...

Like it or not, UMNO still needs the chinese to make the malaysian economic wheel turn.

They still need someone that can actually do the work here.... biggrin.gif

And they also still need the chinese votes next round if they ever want to see their precious 2/3rds again.

So I believe you can still join the rich provided you know the right lobang.... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Rooney1985 @ May 9 2013, 02:10 PM)
Population will increase and demand will increase, but demand increasing doesn't mean transactions also increase.... So many cases of people's loans being turned down supports this... so demand demand demand but not financial means to buy also no point... correction will need to happen in all categories of housing to meet the different income levels together with available supply and demand... then the market and prices is healthy. Approval rates consistently falling, so see how demand, with financial ability can convert to realisation.

Noticed a few 40 year loans too, especially from the younger group and not individuals but brothers and sisters joining... however, that will be their only purchase until maybe 10 years down the line or when they dispose of it and look for others... That just shows how saturated the local market is now... where the demand is coming from moving forward? not sure, foreign investment, doubt so... with all the negative media coverage on fraud and corruption, funds would likely leave to economies that are more certain in terms of policies.

Anyway see how it goes, chill, relax, in no rush...
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Agree with you.

While 'demand' for housing will always be there due to population growth, the 'realisable demand' on the price-transaction level is linked to affordability.
For example, the 'demand' for BMW 3 Series will always be higher than Kenari, but the 'realisable demand' is much lower. In layman's term, everyone wants but only few can afford. Same for properties.

Another argument is when the supply got too high the developers will stop building or built less. Works in theory, but in reality the supply will keep coming. most big developers are public listed companies. The pressure for public listed companies is not to make money, but to CONTINUE to make money. A flat revenue growth and profit can be disasterous to the share price. And many director's wealth are heavily linked to their share price. So die die they will try to build more and make more money until it really burst. By then they already cashed out, and the outsiders are the one burdened with 40 years debt. Then they collect back their shares at low prices, and starts the cycle again.
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post May 10 2013, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(worgen @ May 9 2013, 11:36 PM)
After election, any hope for ddd camp to buy cheap property other thn 999,999 units of affordable home, if you choose to believe this manifesto janji dicapati? with soon to be implemented GST, soon to be increased petrol price, built thn sell home, ever increasing cost of living, etc, any more hope for price to come down? appreciate one can keep posting more housing and economic data to give some hope. dont ask more fr gomen, apa mau lagi. lain kali lah.
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Whoever become government, house price still remain the same, people keep waiting and waiting since 2011, I don't think their dream will come true, comparing the land cost with 6-10 years ago were less than RM10psf in some area, now is RM60 to RM100psf.

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post May 10 2013, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(tat3179 @ May 10 2013, 09:53 AM)
Aiyah...don't be so pessimisticlah joe...

Like it or not, UMNO still needs the chinese to make the malaysian economic wheel turn.

They still need someone that can actually do the work here.... biggrin.gif

And they also still need the chinese votes next round if they ever want to see their precious 2/3rds again.

So I believe you can still join the rich provided you know the right lobang.... biggrin.gif
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Chinese all migrate to Sg, Aus, US and NZ.

Bye bye to Marehsia, leave the bumi to be robbed blind by UMNO until they wakeup.
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post May 10 2013, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(joeblows @ May 10 2013, 11:53 AM)
Chinese all migrate to Sg, Aus, US and NZ.

Bye bye to Marehsia, leave the bumi to be robbed blind by UMNO until they wakeup.
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I doubt that will ever happens. Some yes but not all migrate. Just check majority of business owners in malaysia= chinese or other races? Majority of property investors in malaysia = chinese or other races? Majority of share investors in malaysia = chinese or other races? Chinese has a good strong economic power in malaysia. It is not wise to leave when the race have been doing so well in malaysia.
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post May 10 2013, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(joeblows @ May 10 2013, 11:53 AM)
Chinese all migrate to Sg, Aus, US and NZ.

Bye bye to Marehsia, leave the bumi to be robbed blind by UMNO until they wakeup.
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If migrate is so easy then long long time already migrate lor.
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post May 10 2013, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(cheraspeople @ May 10 2013, 01:04 PM)
If migrate is so easy then long long time already migrate lor.
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Why you guy economist knowledge so yesterday one ah? can't believe it. shocking.gif

According to the economist.

it is much more easy to migrate nowsday compare 10 years ago.

many country with low bird rate/ negative population growth/ high senior citizen asking skill people to migrate there so that the tax system ( high social benafits) un-interupted.

Only our rotten govt chase smart people go away vmad.gif ( apa lu mau lagi?.. ) and invite wub.gif un-smart bangla, philipino, indon here.

Demand for low cost flat sure very good. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

none low cost demand..... slow slow wait. rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(joeblows @ May 10 2013, 10:48 AM)
Since MCA and Gelakan now dead - I think for you no hope la Tat.

Unless you convert and become bin Abdullah - then can join UMNO. tongue.gif
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Kit Saing Said: Join BN? No Way! shocking.gif
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post May 10 2013, 01:17 PM

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Only our rotten govt chase smart people go away ( apa lu mau lagi?.. ) and invite un-smart bangla, philipino, indon here.

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this is their strategy...
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QUOTE(joeblows @ May 10 2013, 11:53 AM)
Chinese all migrate to Sg, Aus, US and NZ.

Bye bye to Marehsia, leave the bumi to be robbed blind by UMNO until they wakeup.
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LoL... Am checking out properties in Melbourne and Auckland now... looks like cheaper than klang valley houses!!!!



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