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 V10 - Property Prices (Up, Down or .....), and the debate goes on and on and on ...

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SUStikaram
post Mar 23 2013, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Mar 23 2013, 01:25 AM)
Wow! This's best comment of the year tongue.gif
What make u full of hate, no wonder crime rate keep increasing since last few years, people are indignant and feel hopeless, main reason of the gap between rich and poor are too big
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wow again!
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post Mar 26 2013, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Mar 25 2013, 11:23 PM)
Abang, Developing country have more spending power
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wow....

this is the best comment for me in 2013 in property lowyat.net
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post Mar 26 2013, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(Rooney1985 @ Mar 26 2013, 09:42 AM)
Just like leading and lagging indicators, the effects are lagging on us... In a way, its advantageous to us that precautionary steps before we experience the same as the developed countries. However, bolehland being bolehland lol... you know I know enough la...

Developing countries more spending power... LOL!!!! Aisey... really need to invest in education man... LOL!!!!
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I agree we really need to invest in education.

A lawyer DDD group lawyer bought the investment by doing lots of homework below:

1) he can afford it
2) he like it
3) he have calculate the risk
4) he is familiar with it
5) he know what to do with the investment
6) he is looking long term

Got so many silly Up up up group attacked.

Any people should learn how he has done his homework and we got free education from this lawyer.

One regular forummer even naively saying "Abang, Developing country have more spending power". doh.gif



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post Mar 27 2013, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Mar 26 2013, 06:41 PM)
A simple example, Canada vs Malaysia, where have more spending power? Where have higher chances to earn money or growing business?
In mid 90s, many migrate from Hong Kong, was suffer from their business like restaurant, cafe, boutique etc, bcos their spending power are damn low.
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For sure is Canada la..........

How many people can afford to buy Iphone 4 in Canada Vs Malaysia?

More other reasons why those type of buz not working la........

Another simple example, Canada Vs Bangladesh. where have more spending power?

Can we moved on on? Not talking about all this none property? So many of us think u are talking cheap... cool.gif ...u don't freel bore and un mature meah? whistling.gif

dont be angry pig ya tongue.gif

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post Mar 27 2013, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Mar 27 2013, 10:29 AM)
Don't shoot me la
Suddenly call me pig
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shooting meah? You worry too much people never shooting you la. Just educate you a bit.

last time u called me angry bird. So this time I call you pig lo.

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post Mar 27 2013, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Mar 27 2013, 10:47 AM)
Relax la, forum discussion only
Bird is cute and pretty
Hey! Sell your 2 hotel suites to me, 300k for 2 units
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u relax la. property drop no so much. don't be too sensitive and be positive la.

pig also cute and pretty ma. Also taste wonderful.

Already sold lio lo.....tell you so many time d.

U still can get it from others la. but maybe need to pay more. u can afford ma. Multi milionhair sup sup water only.

Don't be angry pig ok? tongue.gif

keep the good comment like " Canada spending power less than bangladesh"

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post Mar 27 2013, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Mar 27 2013, 11:23 AM)
U keep attacking me with emotionally
Anyway! Have a nice day!
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why felt people atatcking when someone called you by animal name?

but, you have right to call someone animal oh? why so double standard one?

if it is truely attacking. you do it first mah. correct?

don't be too emotion la. afterall this is just website. already v10... we know who is bullshxx and who is not.

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post Mar 27 2013, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Mar 27 2013, 01:36 PM)
Be a tycoon 1st, dun bullshxx here
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strongly agree... don't bullshxx first. be tycoon 1st la.
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post Mar 27 2013, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(Nepo @ Mar 27 2013, 02:25 PM)
Typical weak guy style!

Don't dare to answer the question though u said that "I learnt
When you are a tycoon, whatever shxx you say will be a golden rule."

And u only believe in your mind that I m not a tycooooon.
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i also don't believe u are tycoon. not just him.

and more also think u are not.

don't so serious la.

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post Mar 27 2013, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Nepo @ Mar 27 2013, 02:37 PM)
lol..
This is your failure your personal character :-

1). You don't know who am I and you believe I m poor.
2). You assume other people also think as you.

Come on Man, don't look down other people and don't assume anything IF YOU ARE NOT CERTAIN.
The world is soooooooooo big and you are soooooooooo small. biggrin.gif
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that's why i said don't be too serious la.

The world is soooooooooo big and you are soooooooooo small.


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post Mar 28 2013, 08:53 AM

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Being an accountant I don't believe leverage. Leverage take high risk. Accountant usually dislike risk.

My investment i try to take lesser loan with higher down payment with some tax planning in mind.

High leverage not just risky. but it also more costly. I believe, if you take high loan. Your gain is partially fund "banker".

Why getting 3.2% interest but payment 4.3 % interest?

Worst when the interest shooting up after PRU.

try doing some excel sheet. build a "what if " senario and you will see the different.

best if you have include some tax on your model.

you can said. high leverage. you put 10% downpayment (30K) and you get ( 120k). That is 4 times. You can earn 4 times if this if that...

but if you do it slowly. you for sure can make 2 times. Money can be make any time / moment . if today i can't make this. Maybe tomorrow i will. Why take such a high risk?

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QUOTE(Rooney1985 @ Mar 28 2013, 10:13 AM)
First Iceland, then Greece, now Cyprus: So who is next in Asia?

http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.ph...asia-?&Itemid=2

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is die die must answer.

maybe those country bank that have high expose to japanese market?

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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Mar 28 2013, 10:30 AM)
Malaysia lor
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why malaysia?
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post Mar 28 2013, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(Rooney1985 @ Mar 28 2013, 05:14 PM)
I think its going to be difficult to drop interest rates any further, if it does go down, its very minimal as the margins on property loans is already very thin... cutting rates further will only dilute bank's income which will in turn affect salaries of those in banks and therefore reduce consumer spending.

Already there is talk that loans growth contributed from property purchase/ investment will drop next year from double digit in 2012 to single digit but this remains to be seen. If the property market is sustained then interest will stay low if market weakens, bank's profit weakens and the chain reaction starts.

Anyway, prices up again... so many choices... buy buy buy!!! smile.gif
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Zeti not going to increase rate b/4 PRU. Up upu up People keep hopping lower rate. LOL

She also not going to impose more measure on the loan things before PRU la even she knew how bad debts situation now.

It is very normal the center govt act like this. Political pressure la. Why so many people don't understand this?

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QUOTE(Rooney1985 @ Mar 28 2013, 05:34 PM)
Understand understand... just saying after that mah... sigh... why so serious... I say most likely before or after GE, interest rate highly unlikely to go lower... higher possibility it'll go up.. smile.gif
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correct.... i am pointing it to up up people la.

propability interest rate up is greater than down.

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i dislike this title.

people just join us don't understand. wtf this mean " V10 - Property Prices (Up, Down or .....), and the debate goes on and on and on ... "
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post Apr 1 2013, 08:14 AM

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I want to share that 2 people was wrong @ bumi luck post. That 2 up camp start with Manut & Amint....

Please don't fool people in forumn la.

Bumi cap in ASB is 200k, Bumis aslo have many others fund tabung haji, asn, angkatan etc... if combine wife, children and etc... tak habis makan la.

See how the 200k cap turn into 2 mil. How can we, chinese got this type of luck?

I am taking 9% return. You know i know some year asb got higher return.

Amount
Age - 200,000.00 Initial Investment
21 -218,000.00
22 - 237,620.00
23 - 259,005.80
24 - 282,316.32
25 - 307,724.79
26 - 335,420.02
27 - 365,607.82
28 - 398,512.53
29 - 434,378.66
30 - 473,472.73
31 - 516,085.28
32 - 562,532.96
33 - 613,160.92
34 - 668,345.41
35 - 728,496.49
36 - 794,061.18
37 - 865,526.68
38 - 943,424.08
39 - 1,028,332.25
40 - 1,120,882.15
41 - 1,221,761.55
42 - 1,331,720.09
43 - 1,451,574.89
44 - 1,582,216.63
45 - 1,724,616.13
46 - 1,879,831.58
47 - 2,049,016.43
48 - 2,233,427.90
49 - 2,434,436.42
50 - 2,653,535.69

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post Apr 1 2013, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 31 2013, 02:44 PM)
tq. it is an interesting article.

the chart below is particularly interesting. it does show, as we know, the prop collapse in usa, ireland, spain. seems the recent canadian collapse hasn't gone in the data yet.

going by that data and the writer's argument, hongkong is about to burst, singapore next. but these are small islands with fast action gomens and lotsa hot money.

it'll be good if similar data for bolehsia is placed on the chart, esp the price relative to rent and avg disposable income. if u can rent a home for <2k pm, for how long can peple keep buying the same kind of home for 700-800k?

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brother i have used this chart before "teach" that Cherry.
Glad to know someone read the economist. i agree this is a very good info. look like not many people appreciate the economist/ read economist but talking BS here. ( like this Mod. Cherry)

if you read the economist. Year 2000 to Year 2005. It always cover malaysia as part of the statistic. But since 2006 onward. Malaysia slowly being replace by Brazil, Indonesia.

But Singapore is always part of it. Malaysia is always around 50% worst. You do the calculation la.

bolehsia. In my opinion is 75% near Singapore level on this property things.

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post Apr 1 2013, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Apr 1 2013, 09:33 AM)
When I see lawyer tat complain about bumi privilege, I didn't notice anything. But when tikaram also join in, I suddenly realise the the DDD camp has many complaints on the existing environment. You guys can't accept the environment you live in and keep moving on.

When the property market in BBB mode, they don't accept and voice out their displeasure. Others will just buy/sell based on the given current environment, and live happily

Same goes for bumi privilege. It is part of the historical legacy. It will go away naturally when the bumi progress in time, maybe 20-30 years from now. But this is a political discussion for RWI

If a specie of animal can't adapt to the eco system, the specie will just extinct. However much the animal complains, it won't help in its extinction.

Successful person will work around. Loser just complain  rclxm9.gif
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I am not complaint. I am just sharing ... please refer to waht i wrote " I want to share that 2 people was wrong @ bumi luck post. That 2 up camp start with Manut & Amint...."

I also wanted to share. Those poeple saying how one day our epf will bailout the asb.

see below self explain comparison. this is a fact again I am not complait here.

If I complaint. This is also my right mah. As my epf will fund the govt link things anyway.

This compuatation. Initial @200K at age 21 EPF return 6% VS the ASB 9%. At age 50. asb earn 2.653 mil vs epf 1.148 million. ( further the epf money maybe will bailout asb)

EPF 6%Amount vs ASB 9%Amount
Age - 200,000.00 vs 200,000.00
30 - 358,169.54 vs 473,472.73
35 - 479,311.64 vs 728,496.49
40 - 641,427.09 vs 1,120,882.15
45 - 858,374.14 vs 1,724,616.13
50 -1,148,698.23 vs 2,653,535.69

In malaysia. Sucessful person can be no need to work around.

Syed Mokhtar Al-Bukhary : 6th richest Malaysian.


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post Apr 1 2013, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Apr 1 2013, 10:15 AM)
Tika trauke, read my post carefully. I was chatting with 3179 on our own. Did I sound like started the bumi topic. Lets b fair. If u dun like me, just b it. Afterall tis is forum. I respect all here unless u dun like it.

Hav a nice day boss.
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I am sharing the 200k notes that you put.

200k husban, 200k wife, 200k son, 200k daughter,

wow . 800k become : 10.61 million.

this is just asb. some more got other tabung haji, angkatan , asn, this and that.

see the fact? 800k become 10.6 million. Guarantee ( if bailout many people saying bailout by my money in epf)

i am bring this on the tat post on rent yield. we need to work so hard to get that 6% rent yield and self contribute into epf. one day have to do the bailout some more from our epf.

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