u r delighting me.. Am i suppose to break the headphone purposely to claim personal warranty from u? Yeah..i can do so actually.. BUT i didnt.. However, u r going to think me in this way.. Bear in mind that i did sms on the sound is distorted..left clarity and no bass at all..

U only want positive comment on ur side..so called contribution..

Those who say u should refund.. GET A WARN for flaming

This post has been edited by accs_centre: Apr 9 2006, 02:26 AM

have u tried with other rechargable battery? u should know that rechargable battery doesnt have a long lifespan

The rechargeable battery is not those AA or AAA..
No way for me to try another one besides the two bundle with it..

Dude, you're not getting my point
What i'm saying is, from the email we can confirm without a doubt with hard facts whether its a faulty thing or a so called feature
Which is why i said include that the other guy sent his for RMA before
I said pretend to be sending it for RMA so that they'll be more helpful

You've nothing to lose by sending an email
And if they give a reply that you want, we can confirm that it's faulty and if Infinity doesnt refund fully he'll go to the blacklist

This post has been edited by KilJim: Apr 9 2006, 02:41 AM

It is really product "feature" for the fade-in and fade-out sound..But it is also the product design problem where it is annoying to have such design..

It is everyone annoying feature..Infinity also think so.. Thus, i complain that he didnt tell me b4 about this everyone dislike feature..

Besides the "feature"problem, i also did complain to him the distorted sound with no bass at all.. He just told me it is due to weak battery and ask me to fully charge.. But problem still there after full charge..

probly someone can clear this up, which an important issue. Does the 1 week personal warranty do cover 'user-satisfactory' too? Which is rather subjective, dont you think so?

And here, a buyer bought a product which doesnt live to his expectation, can he ask for refund? Beside, whose fault is it really? The buyer didnt do enough research ont he product, and now, he dont like some of the features (assuming its really a feature). Do the seller responsible to tell him everything/anything bad bout the product, or the buyer himself are responsible for doing their own research?

Its obvious that the seller is annoyed with the feature too, so would he bought it in the first place if he knew bout the feature too?

Im saying all this if its indeed a feature, else if its faulty, then its different story. Is there any local reseller? Could you verify if the hp is faulty? If its faulty, then the seller should cover all the cost.

Anyway, i dont think any personal warranty will cover against user satisfactory.

just my 2 cents

i did google around.. but no finding on such feature statement..

The seller is not bought it..He got it free..

No it most certainly does not
Unless the seller says so la

Would it be so hard to send the email?
If they reply that your unit is faulty, then we have the indisputable proof
Then either he gives u the full refund, or he goes into the backlist

If you're gonna continue with the pointless thread, i can guess what's gonna happen
He's gonna continue what he's been saying
There's no hard proof that he's lying

crystal clear.

based on the above message sent by the seller, i would say he is definitely trying to mislead the buyer.

i have sent the email.. waiting reply only..

And it is the product feature la.. this one no need to ask.. it is product design problem on the feature.. but since u keep asking me to email.. i emailed them..
I believe they wont say such feature is faulty or useless..they dont scare later the article published and RS85 users return for rma mer..

another things i complain - distorted sound with no bass at all; this one is not product feature of cuz..

BUT if u think in this way, no matter all ppl dislike such feature.. It is also the product feature.. So, is it okie for me to sell to others without telling that feature problem?

The most important criteria here is that.. If the so called feature is not a big deal, not affecting the listening or people wont feel it is faulty then it is not a must for seller to tell the buyer.. Not everything the seller shoudl tell the buyer...

But is the feature is affecting listening experience, everyone listen to it will think that is it faulty, then seller should tell that in my opinion..

It is about how serious is the issue..

This post has been edited by accs_centre: Apr 9 2006, 04:13 AM

just not to complicate things player10,lgs,kidmad,low yat 82,abubin,awh85,ss_izal,vincentlee83,blurjoey, can u guys state down ur experience or technical background or manage to hear how it sounds like ? based on that, u can prove that this unit is at fault ? if u can't confirm it's faulty, you CAN'T tell me to refund it. and thus saying i sell faulty thing is an accused to me? Come on, i'm sure everyone will be pissed if u say something like that baselessly.

if i'm at fault for not telling, then the buyer is at fault for not asking. I did state clearly in another forum pointed by accs_center that it does act like this. And i did admit it does act like that. If you were to ask me, or does google, you will get the same answer. Just to confirm, I double check with sennheiser engineer and she pointed the correct way of using it.

simple google search result:
http://www.epinions.com/elec-review-4929-3...-3A269C95-prod3

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005R8Q...glance&n=172282

http://ostg.pricegrabber.com/rating_getpro...13033/id_type=M
some one is lying
and tons more reviews there.

it's pretty clear, if u hope that it will blow away the wired range at same price, no way, but this is one of the best in wireless as compared to others... and many reviewers did say that interference take a major role, it's stated in the book too on how to tackle it... one guy even said that he got a hiss sound once the fridge starts to kicks in... if u don't take care of that, it will surely affects the sound. One user in the review even plug it in to EMI/RFI filter.

btw, accs_center, i'm curious to know...wat do u think '7 days warranty' means to u ?

edit: and u said u send to me via nationwide? PM me the tracking code.

This post has been edited by Infinity: Apr 9 2006, 09:37 AM

yup try another wireless with 8m away... it is crystal clear in that comparison

u want to compare 'crystal clear' wireless with wired... i told u, it's like comparing apple and orange, they are different league

the be more fair, this is wat happened

1) accs PM me asking me how much i'm selling the unit
told him RM500

2) accs asks How old is it? condition? hv photo? And hv warranty? Since u get it free, so no receipt to claim warranty lo?

told him i use less than 3 months, and i'm not using after that, no warranty, send him some links on the photos.

3) he asked me if i can give personal warranty for 7 days, i replied ok

4) ask me if i can sell for RM400 inclusive of pos laju shipping, i replied ok

5) sms me saying he doesn't want it cause he found a better offer online.

6) sms me again saying he wanted it insisted me to pack and send by (tuesday poslaju)

7) it arrived safely to him on wednesday

(i might mix up which one come first esp. 4,5,6)

all those happen within 2 days (2nd and 3rd April)

i never force accs to buying it, u guys see it as my fault for not telling him it act that way, but i hardly used it after the first 3 months i got it, i did forgot about it.

he has ample time to try, search and read reviews, or be smart try it here at my place too i don't mind.

wat i'm trying to say is, i did NOT plan to earn or did NOT plan to sell faulty thing and did NOT hide anything.

man i saw another lie !

the product is from mediaplex, unless mediaplex sells a product not intended for malaysia market.

1st of all. i did not say ure selling faulty stuff. read back
2nd. i do think its ure fault, as it is ur duty to make thgs clear before each and every single deal ure having.
3rd. to ME crystal clear means da music able to go smooth without interference. not like dis, no base, fade in fade out.. etc
4th. if the 7 dayz warranty is still there, how about like wat the buyer said, distorted sound with no bass? dun tell me its another stupid feature they are having.
5th. well infinity not mean im siding the buyer, but rm400 bucks is a large sum of money. basically with rm400 u wud xpect to get sumthing which satisfy you. even if u recieve sum goods like dis when this kind of special feature wasnt told by the seller b4 dis, u wud also complain bout it too, wunt u? well if the buyer know regarding dis feature, AND HEZ STILL WILLING TO BUY. datz another story then. do you think so?

Oh, sorry my bad there
Was too lazy to read all the posts before my post there

Well if the product really is that way, then the tables are turned now
Technically, he doesnt have an obligation to tell u what he dislikes about it

Perhaps this falls under ethics or something like that, but it isnt a rule which needs to be followed
You yourself could be blamed for not doing enough homework on the product
Had u searched around you would have seen the other users oppinions and known about it

This post has been edited by KilJim: Apr 9 2006, 10:48 AM

I asked condition..u didnt mention about the bad so called 'feature'..u just stand on by side.. Will u accept such a Heaphone which u paid RM400 for it? Yes, u will! cuz u have a job..i dun hv..

Regrading to the photos, i should not say it now actually..But im just touch a bit..ppl asked for real item photo, yes u did show me the real item but the photos taken during the time u got which is last year.. Usually ppl asked for real item photo is wanna see the item current outlook..anyway, this is not important point..

Your now accuse is hardly used it after the first 3 months i got it, i did forgot about it. c Why dont u forgot u have a heaphone can be sold?
Sorry if the item is really from mediaplex. I duno that..as i see it is 434mhz version and others bought locally is 800mhz. And i dun see mediaplex sticker there.. If there is mediaplex or proof from local distro..then it make things easier to get RMA..

I did do some google.. but only one or not site mostly is profesional reviewer's work.. I admit that i didnt do a day and night job..Should we as consumer must do a complete google before going for a product?

Finally, I have to ask this.. Anyone here will just accept such a headphone silently with RM400 paid?

This post has been edited by accs_centre: Apr 9 2006, 10:52 AM

Yup.. it is not obligation..i agree that..This is what infinity stand still with..
It is ethics issue..Yup..This is what infinity without..

I blame myself for not doing enough homework now..As most google search found i only go to see those product review by profesional.. And i didnt go to read those little review by end-user in those online shopping site..(most of them are)

As shockk told me, my case just cant be clearly defined as he can have his reason (no obligation) and i can have my reason (have ethics or not)..It is also clear that Infinity will not refund FULL to me.. I earn a good leason for RM95 this time..U all learned this FREE.. He cant get rich with RM80, it's okie..

So, Mr. Infinity, Please refund the RM320 before Wednesday as i said.. I have gave u 3 days to do bank-in..Dont give me reason as u not free to do that.. If not free, give cash to someone else to do that..



This post has been edited by accs_centre: Apr 9 2006, 11:11 AM

well, if it fallz on ethic and doin so is legal i guess ntg much can be done. well a lesson i guess.

Just like in a real life lawsuit.. if next time u meet such case..and u r in infinity position.. Just refer to my case.. No obligation and it is ethics problem only.. U dont need to responsible..

This post has been edited by accs_centre: Apr 9 2006, 11:10 AM