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post Apr 18 2006, 12:14 AM

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thanks guys. its not finished yet, needs some more stuff, then housed.

but its working. smile.gif

if anyone of you guys go down to jalan pasar..do alert me in this thread k? wanna tumpang some stuff. smile.gif and if i ever go down again, ill let u guys know.
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post Apr 18 2006, 12:50 AM

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hmm... who's got paypal and wants to do a bulk?
thinking of getting 3PDT switches and a TS808 board. lazy wanna make my own board atm. maybe in my next pedal.
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post Apr 18 2006, 12:58 AM

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heh, thought of gettintg DPDT switches from wohfatt. but i saw the milinium bypass diagrams here.. http://geofex.com/Article_Folders/Milleniu...20Millenium.pdf
scares the shit outta me. i dont knw what parts..and i dont knw if they're available.

3PDT it may be...so who's got paypal...damn ridiculous tho, to pay 27 ringgit for a bloody switch.
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post Apr 18 2006, 01:10 AM

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i dunno wether one of u have done it...did anyone search 3dpt or dpdt either ar RS http://www.rsmalaysia.com or Farnell http://my.farnell.com/ ...did they have it??
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QUOTE(amirsubhi @ Apr 18 2006, 01:10 AM)
i dunno wether one of u have done it...did anyone search 3dpt or dpdt either ar RS http://www.rsmalaysia.com or Farnell http://my.farnell.com/ ...did they have it??
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they have 3PDT switches but not the push-switch type. Toggle 3PDT switches even jalan pasar can easily get.
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post Apr 18 2006, 06:55 AM

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i planning to get the stuffs first but start in june when i'm having my break
but i don't know jalan pasar well
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post Apr 18 2006, 07:00 AM

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QUOTE(MoNnY @ Apr 18 2006, 06:55 AM)
i planning to get the stuffs first but start in june when i'm having my break
but i don't know jalan pasar well
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heck we were lost for awhile b4 reaching jalan pasar whistling.gif
plus i was having a headache doh.gif wrong timing ugh
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post Apr 18 2006, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(MoNnY @ Apr 18 2006, 06:55 AM)
i planning to get the stuffs first but start in june when i'm having my break
but i don't know jalan pasar well
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we can help u with directions. it isnt that bad. take rapidkl 113 . thats easier.


checked out those 2 sites. nothing there man. so industrial. so expensive. blink.gif

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TSnick_drake
post Apr 18 2006, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(amirsubhi @ Apr 18 2006, 01:10 AM)
i dunno wether one of u have done it...did anyone search 3dpt or dpdt either ar RS http://www.rsmalaysia.com or Farnell http://my.farnell.com/ ...did they have it??
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QUOTE(nick_drake @ Apr 18 2006, 11:00 AM)
we can help u with directions. it isnt that bad. take rapidkl 113 . thats easier.
checked out those 2 sites. nothing there man. so industrial. so expensive.  blink.gif
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QUOTE(evo.com @ Apr 18 2006, 12:34 PM)
congrats man thumbup.gif

now the next step is to build your own personal shed and start making guitars! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(chanti-sama @ Apr 18 2006, 02:03 PM)
make amps 1st.... home brew 1/2 stack
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QUOTE(plankton @ Apr 18 2006, 02:15 PM)
how bout home brew strings biggrin.gif
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haha thanks.

you guys are nuts! hahaha!

im having trouble with switches, and im hearing about half stacks, strings, and guitars. blink.gif

jokes aside, im still very new. this success is just a small start. there is so much i dont know.

smile.gif well, i want to do more already .
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post Apr 19 2006, 09:49 AM

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Guys, please keep in topic. He's making his own stompboxes not guitar, strings and what not.

nick_drake, so how's project going on ?

I got some LEDs if you want laugh.gif

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post Apr 19 2006, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(TheWhacker @ Apr 19 2006, 09:49 AM)
Guys, please keep in topic. He's making his own stompboxes not guitar, strings and what not.

nick_drake, so how's project going on ?

I got some LEDs if you want laugh.gif
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ah , the whacker as usual, policing around with his baton. rolleyes.gif

want=sell? biggrin.gif

its going fine. actually, not going anywhere. tongue.gif cause i cant find the time/effort to go down to kl AGAIN to get the switches. maybe later...

but so far, its working alright. a nice volume boost. and when the gain is maxed, u can get a thick creamy overdrive... smile.gif

ill post up sound clips ...soon.

oh yeah..the leds? rolleyes.gif

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post Apr 19 2006, 03:18 PM

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one tip for soldering...

go to jalan pasar and find one small can of Solder Paste. put it on both the contacts that u wanna solder, and when the hot solder on the iron touches them, the solder will flow smoothly and stick on the contacts.

try em, you won't regret it! shouldn't cost more than rm5 per small can.
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post Apr 19 2006, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(modD @ Apr 19 2006, 03:18 PM)
one tip for soldering...

go to jalan pasar and find one small can of Solder Paste. put it on both the contacts that u wanna solder, and when the hot solder on the iron touches them, the solder will flow smoothly and stick on the contacts.

try em, you won't regret it! shouldn't cost more than rm5 per small can.
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thanks!

shall try that. cause i read in forums, that the right way to solder is to touch the solder tip to the hole's copper ring, and touch the solder on the ring, then it'll flow...so must use solder paste to achieve that? or dont have to also can?

thx. smile.gif
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post Apr 19 2006, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(modD @ Apr 19 2006, 03:18 PM)
one tip for soldering...

go to jalan pasar and find one small can of Solder Paste. put it on both the contacts that u wanna solder, and when the hot solder on the iron touches them, the solder will flow smoothly and stick on the contacts.

try em, you won't regret it! shouldn't cost more than rm5 per small can.
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just tell them solder paste and they'll know?

izzit better than the usual solders strips?
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post Apr 19 2006, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(nick_drake @ Apr 18 2006, 01:58 AM)
heh, thought of gettintg DPDT switches from wohfatt. but i saw the milinium bypass diagrams here.. http://geofex.com/Article_Folders/Milleniu...20Millenium.pdf
scares the shit outta me. i dont knw what parts..and i dont knw if they're available.

3PDT it may be...so who's got paypal...damn ridiculous tho, to pay 27 ringgit for a bloody switch.
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note : this post is quite long n boring... kindly ignore this post if you think that its too long n boring
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hmm.. honestly i dont know wut DPDT,SPST or 3PDT .. but after reading some data sheets i learn a little... DPDT stands for Double Pole Double Throw, SPST - Single Pole Single Throw and 3PDT - Tripple Pole Double Throw...

The number of poles determines the number of input..
eg : double pole - 2 inputs
single pole - 1 input only
tripple pole - 3 inputs

The number of throws determines the switch ability
eg : single throw - switches between on or off (basicly open or close circuit)
double throw - switches between x or y (x to y may be any connection connected the circuit)


These switches could be in of anyform as long as they perform the task which they are designed to do... it could be a simple toggle switch, electromagnetic relays to Intergrated Circuit, IC(CMOS).

The url u have found is the IC type (CMOS)
http://geofex.com/Article_Folders/Milleniu...20Millenium.pdf
http://pdfserv.maxim-ic.com/en/ds/MAX4699-MAX4702.pdf
Basicly are high performance switches... with switching delay in nano seconds (10^-9 s) .. therefore the most expensive type..

The electromagnetic relay type... the following example
http://www.hobbytron.com/NTE/relay/pdf/R10.pdf
This is a lower performance swich.. with swiching delay in mili seconds (10^-3 s).. much cheaper

and the toggle switch type.. the following example
http://www.hobbytron.com/NTE/relay/pdf/R10.pdf
This type... no performance rating..a simple switch therefore, cheap..

conclusion :
if it is juz a bypass switch... the simple switch will do
otherwise if your circuit requires the switch for other purpose.. u may have no choice but to bare the cost..

as for the cost between DPDT and 3PDT... i dont think there should be much difference in terms of cost...

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post Apr 19 2006, 10:38 PM

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yes actually DPDT, SPST, 3PDT etc are available in many forms including toggle, relays, and push type. but for stompboxes you need to specifically get those metal push types, coz... well... the name stompbox explains it. you "stomp" on the switch. toggle switches just dont cut it. and plastic push switches may break over time.
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post Apr 19 2006, 11:04 PM

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haha shouta, no worries. i actually appreciate people taking some time off to post long detailed info. rclxms.gif

yes, i agree on the cost of DPDT's and 3PDT's being more or less the same, 3pdt's being more expensive.

hmm...ok...lets do a little calculation...

wohfatt sells DPDT's at 20. aron's 3PDT's at $14.10 for two, which is 26. delivery included.

6 bucks difference. if i choose a dpdt, there'll be more hassle doing the milbypass. whereas 3pdt, i just sit here and wait for it to arrive..say..4-14 days. malaysia being far far far away...say 2 weeks. and i dont have paypal.

pfff...i'll start with a dpdt first. will go downtown soon.


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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Apr 19 2006, 10:38 PM)
yes actually DPDT, SPST, 3PDT etc are available in many forms including toggle, relays, and push type. but for stompboxes you need to specifically get those metal push types, coz... well... the name stompbox explains it. you "stomp" on the switch. toggle switches just dont cut it. and plastic push switches will break over time.
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fix'd for great justice.

problem is, thats the only switches that are being stocked in pasar road now
bloody breakable plastic switches
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post Apr 20 2006, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(nick_drake @ Apr 19 2006, 11:04 PM)
haha shouta, no worries. i actually appreciate people taking some time off to post long detailed info.  rclxms.gif

yes, i agree on the cost of DPDT's and 3PDT's being more or less the same, 3pdt's being more expensive.

hmm...ok...lets do a little calculation...

wohfatt sells DPDT's at 20. aron's 3PDT's at $14.10 for two, which is 26. delivery included.

6 bucks difference. if i choose a dpdt, there'll be more hassle doing the milbypass. whereas 3pdt, i just sit here and wait for it to arrive..say..4-14 days. malaysia being far far far away...say 2 weeks.   and i dont have paypal.

pfff...i'll start with a dpdt first. will go downtown soon.
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Hey... I might be able to get hold of a fren who has paypal. Wanna bulk together? Who else wants? I'm planning to get it anyway.

QUOTE(sean392 @ Apr 19 2006, 11:17 PM)
fix'd for great justice.

problem is, thats the only switches that are being stocked in pasar road now
bloody breakable plastic switches
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heheh... you're right

This post has been edited by MetalZone: Apr 20 2006, 02:08 AM
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post Apr 20 2006, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Apr 20 2006, 02:07 AM)
Hey... I might be able to get hold of a fren who has paypal. Wanna bulk together? Who else wants? I'm planning to get it anyway.
heheh... you're right
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hmm..yeah..i think i'll jump in for a pair.

lets gather orders then! haha!



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