Mountain Biking Heaven V27, Jump Around, Jump! Jump!
|
|
 Jun 25 2013, 10:25 PM
|
 
Senior Member
2,908 posts Joined: Nov 2004  
|
QUOTE(Broadica @ Jun 25 2013, 08:50 PM) frame crack is different story.. most just creaks and you discover the issue. ya agreed with the handlebar issuehandle bar is whole different story... it breaks.. you fall straight with ur face down..  This post has been edited by tvcat: Jun 25 2013, 10:25 PM |
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 25 2013, 10:46 PM
|
Newbie
3 posts Joined: Nov 2005
|
QUOTE(garyfatty @ Jun 25 2013, 08:14 PM) i saw ppl ride china carbon bike in kiara ok jer. he shed 19sec off his best time on it Wow... But a crack carbon frame or handlebar can shed the entire time out of his life   If ride around taman and gravel, just get cheap bike minus the unknown carbon handlebar. It can even be more dangerous riding on road, carbon bar snap... Lose control... Bang car or tiang  falling down on dirt is more comfortable than road  |
|
|
Jun 25 2013, 10:52 PM
|
|
Newbie
3 posts Joined: Nov 2005
|
QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 25 2013, 05:56 PM) Anyway, being a Taman biker, I still can choose any bike I want and any price I can afford, not just the color. Taman biker ask question in MB Heaven...  come on how can we poison you to go shred some mountain dirt? |
|
|
Jun 25 2013, 11:12 PM
|
Senior Member
2,093 posts Joined: Apr 2005
|
QUOTE(eohl79 @ Jun 25 2013, 10:52 PM) Taman biker ask question in MB Heaven... how to poison him? he wants to build his own bike on the cheap with dodgy china mali carbon bar . now tell us just want to ride around taman with dodgy china mali carbon bar. so i think we should give him standard MTB heaven greeting for this kind of FAQ which is pick the cheapest bike in the colour he like. come on how can we poison you to go shred some mountain dirt?and please dont give answer like I buy ALphard coz i can mah! just confuse the poor fella even more. better to say, even though i can afford a roadbike i dun wanna coz i am not GAY! minor confession, i am considering putting slicks on my beloved HT so i can go ride around my taman and up the Old Pahang trunk road in Gombak faster than 1 hour 15 minutes on my FS Anthem X3. This post has been edited by dickybird: Jun 25 2013, 11:14 PM |
|
|
Jun 25 2013, 11:36 PM
|
Junior Member
177 posts Joined: Aug 2010
|
Model Name : La Pierre
Model Category : Mountain HT Model Series :2011 Prorace 200 Sizes : 18 Front Suspension : Epicon x2 Shift Lever : Shimano XT Shifters Pair - 10sp M770 Derailleur Front : Shimano XT M780 Top Swing 3x10 Front Mech Derailleur Rear : Shimano XT M780 10 Speed Rear Mech Brakes Front : Shimano Deore XT M775 with 6” SLX Rotor Brakes Rear : Shimano Deore XT M775 with 6” SLX Rotor Brake Levers : Shimano Deore XT M775 Pedals : Mongoose platform Crankset : Shimano Deore Bottom Bracket : TOKEN pressfit Tiramic Chain : YBN gold chain 10 speed Cassette : Shimano Deore XT 10 speed casette Hub Front and Rear : Novatec with TOKEN QR Rims : MAVIC 119, Double Wall, 32 Hole with CNC Side Walls Tires : Gaex 2.2 front and Gaex 2.0 rear Saddle : Velo Seatpost : Ritchey Adjust, 31.6mm Stem : KCNC 50mm Grips : Token Headset : Mortop, 1 1/8”, Threadless Handlebar : FSA carbon This used bike 4k can take? |
|
|
Jun 25 2013, 11:41 PM
|
|
Senior Member
2,093 posts Joined: Apr 2005
|
QUOTE(sunnyckh @ Jun 25 2013, 11:36 PM) Model Name : La Pierre how much was when new?Model Category : Mountain HT Model Series :2011 Prorace 200 Sizes : 18 Front Suspension : Epicon x2 Shift Lever : Shimano XT Shifters Pair - 10sp M770 Derailleur Front : Shimano XT M780 Top Swing 3x10 Front Mech Derailleur Rear : Shimano XT M780 10 Speed Rear Mech Brakes Front : Shimano Deore XT M775 with 6” SLX Rotor Brakes Rear : Shimano Deore XT M775 with 6” SLX Rotor Brake Levers : Shimano Deore XT M775 Pedals : Mongoose platform Crankset : Shimano Deore Bottom Bracket : TOKEN pressfit Tiramic Chain : YBN gold chain 10 speed Cassette : Shimano Deore XT 10 speed casette Hub Front and Rear : Novatec with TOKEN QR Rims : MAVIC 119, Double Wall, 32 Hole with CNC Side Walls Tires : Gaex 2.2 front and Gaex 2.0 rear Saddle : Velo Seatpost : Ritchey Adjust, 31.6mm Stem : KCNC 50mm Grips : Token Headset : Mortop, 1 1/8”, Threadless Handlebar : FSA carbon This used bike 4k can take? |
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 25 2013, 11:43 PM
|
|
Junior Member
177 posts Joined: Aug 2010
|
QUOTE(dickybird @ Jun 25 2013, 11:41 PM) how much was when new? Loss count coz bought frame n material hamtam own... |
|
|
Jun 26 2013, 12:00 AM
|
|
Senior Member
2,093 posts Joined: Apr 2005
|
QUOTE(sunnyckh @ Jun 25 2013, 11:43 PM) Loss count coz bought frame n material hamtam own... what can you get for new at 4k price line?i speaking as a noob coz i have ever only bought 4+1 bikes in my life. the +1 bike is my wife punya but she never ride give my FIL ride. discounting all other bits, what fork and drivetrain can you get on a new 4k bike, i think that will give a you a good guideline. i say this because all other bits you can change for very little money or at least without Finance Minister to sign off. hehe oh, and size 18, sounds big, you a big fler? This post has been edited by dickybird: Jun 26 2013, 12:01 AM |
|
|
Jun 26 2013, 12:04 AM
|
Senior Member
2,298 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Miri, Sarawak
|
Sorry ah. I just want some advice when I start working on my first MTB. Nothing hardcore but just a beginner bike that hopefully can go offroard at least LOL.
|
|
|
Jun 26 2013, 12:25 AM
|
|
Senior Member
2,093 posts Joined: Apr 2005
|
QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 26 2013, 12:04 AM) Sorry ah. I just want some advice when I start working on my first MTB. Nothing hardcore but just a beginner bike that hopefully can go offroard at least LOL. easy! a bike with a light overall weight and big fat tyres. by light i mean a hardtail bike around 26 pounds with at least a Deore drivetrain. why light, so it will not feel like hell when you ride. fat tires give good road resistance so will help you train up for the trails and they are nice cushy on trails  |
|
|
Jun 26 2013, 12:26 AM
|
|
Junior Member
177 posts Joined: Aug 2010
|
QUOTE(dickybird @ Jun 26 2013, 12:00 AM) what can you get for new at 4k price line? Erm, 4k price line for a new bike might can get a one class lower slx/x7 groupset, but better fork RS recon gold...i speaking as a noob coz i have ever only bought 4+1 bikes in my life. the +1 bike is my wife punya but she never ride give my FIL ride. discounting all other bits, what fork and drivetrain can you get on a new 4k bike, i think that will give a you a good guideline. i say this because all other bits you can change for very little money or at least without Finance Minister to sign off. hehe oh, and size 18, sounds big, you a big fler? |
|
|
Jun 26 2013, 12:35 AM
|
|
Senior Member
2,298 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Miri, Sarawak
|
QUOTE(dickybird @ Jun 26 2013, 12:25 AM) easy! a bike with a light overall weight and big fat tyres. by light i mean a hardtail bike around 26 pounds with at least a Deore drivetrain. why light, so it will not feel like hell when you ride. fat tires give good road resistance so will help you train up for the trails and they are nice cushy on trails Thanks for the good advise. Will keep that in mind. |
|
|
Jun 26 2013, 12:38 AM
|
Junior Member
52 posts Joined: Dec 2010
|
Hi.,I just bought an entry 29er..plan to go ttdi ^^
|
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 26 2013, 10:35 AM
|
Senior Member
801 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Kingdom
|
If ride in taman, I would get a cheap Lerun bike. put mud guard, and maybe a basket in-front.
Both wheels are bolted not open hand type. I can go shop buy things and just lock it up anywhere without worry that my bike will be stolen or someone might steal my aluminum wheel to sell as scrap. The paint need not to be shiny, the more scrap (not rusted) it look the better. At least I know I don't need to walk back after buy things and still got a basket to put things. Oh ya... forgot... fixed with bike stand....!! This post has been edited by cliffang83: Jun 26 2013, 10:36 AM |
|
|
Jun 26 2013, 10:39 AM
|
|
Senior Member
801 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Kingdom
|
QUOTE(sunnyckh @ Jun 25 2013, 11:36 PM) Model Name : La Pierre Ok la... not that cheap either...Model Category : Mountain HT Model Series :2011 Prorace 200 Sizes : 18 Front Suspension : Epicon x2 Shift Lever : Shimano XT Shifters Pair - 10sp M770 Derailleur Front : Shimano XT M780 Top Swing 3x10 Front Mech Derailleur Rear : Shimano XT M780 10 Speed Rear Mech Brakes Front : Shimano Deore XT M775 with 6” SLX Rotor Brakes Rear : Shimano Deore XT M775 with 6” SLX Rotor Brake Levers : Shimano Deore XT M775 Pedals : Mongoose platform Crankset : Shimano Deore Bottom Bracket : TOKEN pressfit Tiramic Chain : YBN gold chain 10 speed Cassette : Shimano Deore XT 10 speed casette Hub Front and Rear : Novatec with TOKEN QR Rims : MAVIC 119, Double Wall, 32 Hole with CNC Side Walls Tires : Gaex 2.2 front and Gaex 2.0 rear Saddle : Velo Seatpost : Ritchey Adjust, 31.6mm Stem : KCNC 50mm Grips : Token Headset : Mortop, 1 1/8”, Threadless Handlebar : FSA carbon This used bike 4k can take? 4k can get good new bike if your requirement are not that high. |
|
|
Jun 26 2013, 11:10 AM
|
|
Senior Member
2,093 posts Joined: Apr 2005
|
QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Jun 26 2013, 10:35 AM) If ride in taman, I would get a cheap Lerun bike. put mud guard, and maybe a basket in-front. Bro you in the wrong forum, this is Mtb heaven not aunty goes to pasar bike forum! Both wheels are bolted not open hand type. I can go shop buy things and just lock it up anywhere without worry that my bike will be stolen or someone might steal my aluminum wheel to sell as scrap. The paint need not to be shiny, the more scrap (not rusted) it look the better. At least I know I don't need to walk back after buy things and still got a basket to put things. Oh ya... forgot... fixed with bike stand....!! And you overspec the bike already since he only want to ride around the taman. Lol This post has been edited by dickybird: Jun 26 2013, 11:11 AM |
|
|
Jun 26 2013, 11:57 AM
|
|
Senior Member
2,298 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Miri, Sarawak
|
You guys might be very experience mountain bikers, but reading some of your post just show how childish and disrespectful some of you are.
Being a knowledgable mountain biker means being able to share useful infos to anyone from beginner to the advance biker. Not making cocky statement like getting bolted wheels, basket in front, mud guard etc. For eg. a jogger in taman should deserve a pair of good shoes to protect the knees etc just as much as an athlete. |
|
|
Jun 26 2013, 12:18 PM
|
 
Moderator
2,311 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Dark Zone, NYC 
|
QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:57 AM) You guys might be very experience mountain bikers, but reading some of your post just show how childish and disrespectful some of you are. I think its rampant in these forums, not only here. Being a knowledgable mountain biker means being able to share useful infos to anyone from beginner to the advance biker. Not making cocky statement like getting bolted wheels, basket in front, mud guard etc. For eg. a jogger in taman should deserve a pair of good shoes to protect the knees etc just as much as an athlete.  So, don't get so butthurt.  |
|
|
Jun 26 2013, 12:32 PM
|
|
Senior Member
801 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Kingdom
|
QUOTE(dickybird @ Jun 26 2013, 11:10 AM) Bro you in the wrong forum, this is Mtb heaven not aunty goes to pasar bike forum! And you overspec the bike already since he only want to ride around the taman. Lol QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:57 AM) You guys might be very experience mountain bikers, but reading some of your post just show how childish and disrespectful some of you are. lightning69, please don't take it too personal la....Being a knowledgable mountain biker means being able to share useful infos to anyone from beginner to the advance biker. Not making cocky statement like getting bolted wheels, basket in front, mud guard etc. For eg. a jogger in taman should deserve a pair of good shoes to protect the knees etc just as much as an athlete. Everyone starts somewhere too... I know people who start from RM500 bike also people who start from RM15000 bike. Most of the RM15000 bike become a white elephant else the RM500 bike guy has upgraded using a RM8000 bike for safety and lightweight. I also know uncle DIY cnc own bicycle parts and the bike is just 8kg!!!!   Just don't over killed, expensive does not mean good; but good will not be cheap. Of course if you have extra to spend then sure you can go for expensive things. Just do some studies will help you get the right tools for the purpose. Is the rider that makes the ride go, not the other way round. As you develop your skills, you will appreciate the expensive and least expensive things. You got your point too, Kancil is never safer compare to BMW if kena bang. That I totally agree. So... hmmmmmm maybe a Nissan Amera will be better than Kancil....  dickybird: Aiya... just to say how i feel only.... Really la... I will not ride my expensive bike to go buy things nearby... Get my point? I will not feel safe to leave the bike alone even lock to a rock... I see many uncle or auntie cycle old bike everyday and those bike like last forever. A car is a mean of transport.... Example: I will ride a kancil to go pasar or send kids to school, save fuel and cheap also if leave the kancil unlock i know it will still be there. But if I am going for long distance, I would think of getting a more comfortable and safer car. If i go offroad more often, i would get a 4x4. Just my point of view.... to fit the purpose. No offence cause there's many rich people who use Ferrari to send kids to school or go market la cause it has become a status issue. just my 2 cents. This post has been edited by cliffang83: Jun 26 2013, 12:37 PM |
|
|
Jun 26 2013, 12:53 PM
|
|
Senior Member
2,093 posts Joined: Apr 2005
|
QUOTE(eohl79 @ Jun 23 2013, 11:14 PM) Lets see... I think is in somebody price range The team ver, the Recon fork is okay, decent entry level rims, drivetrain is okay, hate the brakes. At 26 pounds for a HT... Erm... The comp ver, the Epicon fork is the best entry level air sprung fork, drivetrain X5 so so..., hate the brakes. At almost 28 pounds... Gulp... Heavy IMO as that's the weight of my AM full sus. My opinion... From what I feel I've tested both Shimano and sram drive trains. Like sram for the positive clicks/shifting but don't really like the quality except for the higher range models (X9 and above). sram FD shifting sucks to me. Shimano shifts with less effort but feedback from shifting is a little muted. Other than that very reliable. On brakes, the newer shimano brakes are really good. Decent amount of stopping power. Reliable and low maintenance with mineral oil. I have a love hate relationship with avid brakes. The stopping power can be very good. Just need to maintain it regularly by bleeding every 6 months or so to keep it in good shape. More if you ride in plenty of dirt and use a lot. Caliper pistons can get stuck one side causing uneven brake bias on disc after a while. Usually if you ride lots of muddy and dirty conditions. The DOT brake fluid does not lubricate the caliper piston square seals and with dirt can cause piston to bind a little. Unless you have the knack to service your brakes regularly, go for shimano brakes. I would get a bike with at least a shimano slx rear drivetrain, slx brakes, epicon fork and decent rims to begin with. Well it is just my opinion. Go get a feel/test/ride various bikes first. Your choice anyway. Think I saw a polygon carbon HT, with fox fork but regular deore components for somewhere 4k or below... cant quite recall. Check rodalink... Sometimes they've got some unbelievable discounts on bikes and good deals. |
|
Topic ClosedOptions
|
| Change to: |  0.0293sec
 0.67
 6 queries
 GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 8th December 2025 - 01:58 PM |
Quote