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GUIDELINES TO MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAIL ETIQUETTE
FROM VARIOUS SOURCES IN RELATION TO SHARED TRAILS AND NON BIKE SPECIFIC TRAILS
PERSONAL SAFETY -Wear a brain bucket(yes..that's a helmet) whenever you ride -Do not travel into remote areas without informing others -Ride within your capabilities.Ensure that if you want to push your limits,you buddies are around to support you. -Know your bike and bring the necessary/essential spares. -No wear helmet also can, lebih kurang like this guy only.
RIGHT OF WAY IN RELATION TO OTHERS(NON RIDERS) -Give way to non motorised trail users, i.e. hikers,horse riders,because people judge all cyclist by my actions -Give way to motorised trail users, ie. motor cross bikes etc,because generally we will end up worse off in an accident. -Alert others when approaching.Get a bell, or "Excuse me" works quite well
RIGHT OF WAY IN RELATION TO OTHER RIDERS -Riders have the right of way.If you are pushing your bike,leave the riding line open for others to go past. -Rider up hill has the right of way. -Allow faster riders to past
SPEED -Approach turns and bends in aniticipation that there's someone there -Make your presence known when approaching someone or any turns
IMPACT ON THE TRAIL -Leave the wildlife and fauna alone.Magic mushrooms are bad for you. -Stay on designated trails and avoid destroying vegetation if possible. -Dont't take short cuts over /around technical sections.If you can't ride it,walk it. -Learn how to use your front brakes so that you minimise skidding your rear wheel.If you refuse to learn,then ride only in bike parks where people are afraid to maintain the trails. -Do not litter.Take out whatever you take in. Practise minimal impact riding,take only photos and memories with you
FUN -You are to have loads of fun,talk lots of cogs,and make good friends on your ride. -Develop sense of humor.Some people say it's good for the soul. * Taken from PCC.
Advice 1: I want to start cycling, what should I know?
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Probably someone can stickied similar things like this in front page so that many new comers can get some information on choosing a bike.
Here we go.
Question to ask yourself before plunging the sport of Mountain Biking
1. What kinda activity I want to join? Choices a) Ride around my taman b) Ride to school and buy groceries c) Join friends and go biking in some cross country tracks. e.g. offroad road for cars. e.g. Kelapa Sawit plantation area (where usually cars can come in but need to slow down) d) Offroad with a bit of climbing, and downhill, narrow paths (cars can't come in), a bit of drop or uneven trail e) Fast, furious downhill with jumps and extreme cornering
After choosing 1 from the above, then the next thing you need to consider...
a) Budget b) Budget c) Budget
Ha! Ha! Ha!
For Question 1) If you choose a) b) or even c) A bike ranging from RM1500 and below is acceptable. Even bike RM700 and below will still be acceptable.
For d) Try to fork out at least RM2k and above. Preferably RM4k. Anything less, you most probably will end up hating yourself for making harsh decision or you will change your bike/accessories the next round.
For e) You need RM5k minimum or preferably RM20k to start. Ha! Ha! And you need bigger balls.
Of all the above You will still need around RM100 minimum to buy helmet, gloves, water battle or hydration bag. Preferably spend RM300 minimum to get some quality goods. For info, a branded helmet will cost RM200+, a branded gloves will cost RM70 and up, a branded hydration bag wll cost around RM150 and above... usually RM200 above.
If wanna join us for weekend rides or some night rides, just let us know. We will be more than glad to assist. After you get your bike and helmet that is!
Advice 2: What the hell is Roadie, XC, AM, FR, DH?!?!
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If u have not been riding MTBs before this... you won't know what u will like. Seriously! What you see and read in the internet are just professionals doing it. We might be frighten by AM/Freeride or DH videos in youtube but heck... you'd wish you can do that.
In Malaysia... this is the explanation of the term
XC - Cross Country Recommended Location --> FRIM, around your house. Type - Cycle up, cycle down, cycle up, cycle down. Trail condition - double track, smooth to small bumps dirt road, gravel or tarmac. Obstacles - Human, small humps.
AM - All Mountain Recomendation Location --> Kiara, PCP Type - More technical Cycle up, cycle down, push up, push down. Turn here turn there, drop less than 1 foot hill. Trail condition - Single track, double track, muddy, switchbacks, rocky, slightly bigger bumps. Obstacles - tree branches, roots, rocks, switchbacks.
FR - Freeride No Malaysian doing this currently.
DH - DownHill Recommendation Location --> Kiara, Bukit Cermin, PCP Type - Push bike up. Come downhill as fast as your balls can take. Not for pussies. TRail condition - Rocky, bigger gap jumps, muddy. Obstacles - Your balls
Adding on...
What bike to choose ...
XC Bikes - can climb better but due to headtub angle design, fork length, you will have less confidence in going downhill. AM bikes - It is in between XC and DH. So, climbing not as good as XC but better downhill confidence. So, you are always not the best in any discipline but you will enjoy almost every trails you come across. DH bikes - You usually push the bike uphill as it is very heavy and headtube angle very big. Although, some DHer can cycle up steep hills better than us. But when downhill, you are quite save and confident, so, in return, u can ride faster.
What's the diff in these bikes? XC - Light. AM, Medium weight. DH - Heavy. Durability - Usually XC and AM bike can take most of the abuse from normal bikers in Kiara or PCP or FRIM. Unless you are riding DHer style, then probably your bike's life span will reduce. Other than that, it should be ok. After all, most forumers here change their bike frame or components every few months. Ha! Ha! Ha! Only one exceptional case, every few weeks! No chance to see the component or frame fail.
Advice 3: Ok, I know I want to do mountain biking, what should I buy and how much?
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For new comers.
Question - I want to start mountain biking but I donno what bike to buy. Please advise.
Answer -
First to consider. Budget!
Budget below RM1000.00 Answer - No need ask. Just get one you think the color suits you. Heck. They are all the same. Choose these: Nexus, Exitway, Rockbike, Lerun and even to the extend Polygon <-- these are not really mountain bikes. Ha! Ha! Ha! icon_rolleyes.gif
Budget below RM2000.00 At this price range, there are many "branded" bikes to choose from hence making us more confusing. Common brands in Klang Valley. Merida, Fuji, Marin, Raleigh, Norco, BH, Polygon, Giant, Scott, and probably a few more.
What are the important things to look for?
1. Fork 2. rear cassette 3. breaks
1. Fork from lowest to better fork - SR Suntour (SRS) XCT, SRS XCM, SRS XCR, Rockshox Tora, SRS Epicon. 2. Rear cassette At this price range, it doesn't really matter but for mountain bike, ask how many "teeth" the biggest cassette has. Preferably 34T or 32T. This is very important especially for beginner. Having 8 cassette, 7 or 9 cassette doesn't really matter as long as your biggest is biggest! He! He! He! 3. Breaks Wihout doubt, hydraulic brakes will be better than mechanical disc breaks and better than V breaks. Just that at lower range product, they all perform almost the same.
What is not important?
1. Frame design - At this price, all frames probably made by 2 factories. Giant and Merida. Ha! Ha! And it doesn't matter. 2. Crank - Many shops will use this as a way of telling you their products better. But at this price range, it really doesn't matter 3. Handlebar - You look and you like... get it. Doesn't matter at all. 4. Seatpost - Same 5. wheelset - No difference one. 6. Tires - Preferably branded ones like Maxxis, Tioga, Nevegal, Schwabe, Panaracer. Any other brands - Same. 7. Rear Derailluer, Front Derailuer - Again, some use branded gimmick to lure u but it doesn't matter at all.
Most important is the front fork. This is the one that determine whether you ride happily or cursing home. Invest in this. If your budget more than 2k, use back the same as above... and look for what you want. If I were to choose, I'll make sure I get the bike with the best fork first before looking at others.
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What kind of shoes do you guys usually wear to bike? I previously used by sneakers but when masuk hutan and kena mud, kena rain, teruk and smell like terrible la y'know.
Presently I am wearing these;
Not exactly the best kinda shoes for biking due to the studs at the bottom... but waterproof and senang cuci after kena mud
I know there are Shimanos, and 5Ten's... but mahal la. And not exactly waterproof (Apart from Shimanos). A friend of mine is wearing futsal shoes without studs, sound good.
Ok, morning peeps! so what is our recommended front tire for FRIM-like conditions these days? Need one because my stock Michelin Wildgripper is not grippy enough.
Ok, morning peeps! so what is our recommended front tire for FRIM-like conditions these days? Need one because my stock Michelin Wildgripper is not grippy enough.
get the long proven nevegal la... all can ride. or maxxis advantage... more xc oriented
Haha I don't want them studs just that these are the only pair that I have presently and they're only RM9 from Klang and waterproof!
Stiff meaning - sole should be keras yes?
all shoe gonna be the same except adidas kampung, will stink with all the mud and water. what do u expect from tropical country? just wash la more often.
buy proper biking shoe la... they are built better for biking purpose. grip better, stiffer sole and some come with better cover on top to reduce splashing mud and water. but rain..or big splash still will kena.
using other shoe will either wear the sole out fast or they has too little grip on the pedal. it is ok for a start since but do try save up and buy one if u cycle very often. otherwise you spoil those running or trail shoe also a waste jer.
This post has been edited by Broadica: Feb 28 2013, 02:02 PM