lightning69, please don't take it too personal la....
Everyone starts somewhere too... I know people who start from RM500 bike also people who start from RM15000 bike. Most of the RM15000 bike become a white elephant else the RM500 bike guy has upgraded using a RM8000 bike for safety and lightweight. I also know uncle DIY cnc own bicycle parts and the bike is just 8kg!!!!         
Just don't over killed, expensive does not mean good; but good will not be cheap.
Of course if you have extra to spend then sure you can go for expensive things.
Just do some studies will help you get the right tools for the purpose.
Is the rider that makes the ride go, not the other way round.
As you develop your skills, you will appreciate the expensive and least expensive things.

You got your point too, Kancil is never safer compare to BMW if kena bang. That I totally agree. So... hmmmmmm maybe a Nissan Amera will be better than Kancil....      
dickybird:

Aiya... just to say how i feel only....
Really la... I will not ride my expensive bike to go buy things nearby...
Get my point? I will not feel safe to leave the bike alone even lock to a rock...
I see many uncle or auntie cycle old bike everyday and those bike like last forever.

A car is a mean of transport....
Example: I will ride a kancil to go pasar or send kids to school, save fuel and cheap also if leave the kancil unlock i know it will still be there.
But if I am going for long distance, I would think of getting a more comfortable and safer car.
If i go offroad more often, i would get a 4x4.
Just my point of view.... to fit the purpose.

No offence cause there's many rich people who use Ferrari to send kids to school or go market la cause it has become a status issue.
just my 2 cents.

Have anyone visited the folding bike section??
It just blew my mind off.... hahaha....
Those people do ride with style...   

Got money got style lo.

Not necessary got money got style 1...
My friend have a pink foldie which the wife used to cycle to nearby to buy things... now collecting dust....
If I ride with full gear on, also go style la... tow a trolley and train my doberman sit in the trolley also stylo....
Just for laugh ya.... no butthurt thingy....

Btw, you guys tried night ride mountaining?
What light are you guys using?

Maybe should have MBHeaven TT so can help out bro lightning69 on his bike project and poison him to ride in the jungle 

I got a small size HT available if it fits and wanna try ride... can try easy places like FRIM  Just need helmet and gear.
Bike hash this weekend too...

Got money got style lo.

Btw, you guys tried night ride mountaining?
What light are you guys using?

Bro no hard feelings yo!  U like kancil is ok. I got myvi if lazy or hazy to take my Dahon go to the shops.
@lightning69 u want advice we give advice u say we diss u. U get butthurt. Let me tell you. Wtf?! Help people they Thank you like this.  Want to ride mtb sure will butthurt so get over it.

I think is in somebody price range

planed in the future, i mean in the jungle not on tarmac     
light will be this http://www.mtbonline.com.my/product-catego...ssories/lights/
still in the research though....

Yes, every week different places night off road riding.
Eagletac D25LC2 Mini + 3400mAH Li ion batt on handlebar and regular Magic shine on helmet.

Kuang or something- near SG buloh.
i should be going.... but only the short loop. anyone else also going?

Ohh.... saw in youtube that they have 2000 lumens spec which is quite good..... only concern is the battery.... scare kaaboo!!.... Try bring in from taobao or ebay?
Bright enough for downhill?

Kuang or something- near SG buloh.
i should be going.... but only the short loop. anyone else also going?

Where to get a quality n good looking helmet around 200