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 Samsung Galaxy S4 (S IV?), The New King of Android?

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giovanni
post Apr 1 2013, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Apr 1 2013, 12:06 PM)
To remember, also a lot user can't even finish 16GB capacity, and a lot user change phone once a year or 2 years once. smile.gif

Just get whatever suite you. But the decision having it or not, nothing much impact. If one day Samsung also out non removable battery phone and no SD card, I am pretty sure people still get use to it soon. This two issues is not major issue, it was minor issue for some.
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Yeah, to each his own. Not a single doubt about that. So a small issue for you might not be a small issue for others.

But if given a choice, I believe (my two cents) most people would prefer an external card slot (not that everyone needs it. It would be good too to have the flexibility to expand your storage if needed Who would complain to a company for offering an extra slot?) and an easier option for battery replacement.

So this brings us back to the issue you raised regarding Samsung moving in the similar direction in the future (if it may), well, if Samsung doesn't give us a choice then we will decide by then whether or not we are willing to compromise.

But we are talking about making the best choice now given the availability of options (between HTC One and S4 that is).
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post Apr 1 2013, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(giovanni @ Apr 1 2013, 12:26 PM)
Yeah, to each his own. Not a single doubt about that. So a small issue for you might not be a small issue for others.

But if given a choice, I believe (my two cents) most people would prefer an external card slot (not that everyone needs it. It would be good too to have  the flexibility to expand your storage if needed Who would complain to a company for offering an extra slot?) and an easier option for battery replacement.

So this brings us back to the issue you raised regarding Samsung moving in the similar direction in the future (if it may), well, if Samsung doesn't give us a choice then we will decide by then whether or not we are willing to compromise.

But we are talking about making the best choice now given the availability of options (between HTC One and S4 that is).
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Ya, I still agree having SDcard is better than don't, but for removable battery, I prefer it don't as once having removable battery, the back case will degrade on it build quality, you cannot give damn strong build even on polycarbonate as this will impact user on easier remove the back case.

I don't see any wrong build quality of front of S III, Note II or coming S 4 even it was polycarbonate, Nokia is using polycarbonate also and polycabonate is a solid plastic in world.

The fragile part is due to it back case only.

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post Apr 1 2013, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Apr 1 2013, 12:26 PM)
Which part on my comment I complain on the bezel? I never complain. Even S III was less bezel than HTC one.

Also, which part I said slight slimmer is not innovation?

I never said above two part, I was said it was possible to fit in the 0.2" size base on current S III design and on Samsung successful technology on screen material.

Samsung can fit in much bigger screen on S 4 with S III body is damn innovation, this part HTC lost a lot.

As for camera narrow view issue - I said it seems obvious cannot be tweak via software because that was sensor issue, no sensor can change view base on software tweak. Did I said it perform worst than S III or HTC One? I didn't also, I just said bad move from Samsung choose narrow view on it.

You love S 4 and love Samsung, I also still like Samsung, but what the point protecting until like that simply bashing.
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Sorry to say, I never stayed loyal to a brand. I am still torn between HTC One and S4 so I am pretty much neutral. Even if the view is narrower, there is good quality panorama mode if needed. Just saying though.

Frankly speaking, I am only sweat.gif here to quell your never ending rant that is.
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QUOTE(Xirality @ Apr 1 2013, 12:18 PM)
Im the one who use very less capacity. Only my iPhone usually full coz I sync all my iTunes library
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I believe you wouldn't mind to be given a card slot?
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QUOTE(giovanni @ Apr 1 2013, 12:33 PM)
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Sorry to say, I never stayed loyal to a brand. I am still torn between HTC One and S4 so I am pretty much neutral. Even if the view is narrower, there is good quality panorama mode if needed. Just saying though.

Frankly speaking, I am only  sweat.gif here to quell your never ending rant that is.
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Haha! never ending rant? I already end long ago. Is someone bring it up, so I continue lo.

I also never stay loyal to any brand, loyal to any brand is the most stupid thing ever did in world. (One of my friend is, he only buy Sony phone nor-matter outside any phone is better than it because he was crazy loyal to Sony, not only phone, his house every electrical things was Sony only).

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QUOTE(giovanni @ Apr 1 2013, 12:35 PM)
I believe you wouldn't mind to be given a card slot?
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I will appreciate it as I have few 32GB M.SD card sitting around my room corner tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Xirality @ Apr 1 2013, 12:37 PM)
I will appreciate it as I have few 32GB M.SD card sitting around my room corner  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Apr 1 2013, 12:29 PM)
Ya, I still agree having SDcard is better than don't, but for removable battery, I prefer it don't as once having removable battery, the back case will degrade on it build quality, you cannot give damn strong build even on polycarbonate as this will impact user on easier remove the back case.
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Your concern on aesthetic is well beyond what most forumer here is expecting. It just no pleasing you I guess except for that godly One eh? Yeah, yeah.. nod.gif nod.gif

For my point of view, most of samsung user that I know and probably here as well especially from those galaxy series bought the phone because of its functionality. Any other aesthetic features such as slimness and super godly beautiful design is an added bonus and much much welcomed but most of them not really complaining if it otherwise.

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Apr 1 2013, 12:26 PM)
Which part on my comment I complain on the bezel? I never complain. Even S III was less bezel than HTC one.

Also, which part I said slight slimmer is not innovation?

I never said above two part, I was said it was possible to fit in the 0.2" size base on current S III design and on Samsung successful technology on screen material.

Samsung can fit in much bigger screen on S 4 with S III body is damn innovation, this part HTC lost a lot.

As for camera narrow view issue - I said it seems obvious cannot be tweak via software because that was sensor issue, no sensor can change view base on software tweak. Did I said it perform worst than S III or HTC One? I didn't also, I just said bad move from Samsung choose narrow view on it.

You love S 4 and love Samsung, I also still like Samsung, but what the point protecting until like that simply bashing.
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You did not complain about the bezel but you said it could still fit in another 0.2". That is the bit that draws me to the bezel discussion and comparison. The bezel of S3 is already small enough and I'm AMAZED with your assertion saying that it could fit in extra screen real estate, but how do you know that it was feasible before the release of S4?

From your tone of saying "anything is possible" in regards to the slimmer body of S4, I infer that you are simply not impressed hence did not consider it an innovation. After all, you did complain heaven and hell about the whole build being similar to s3 (I am too lazy to read back all that you have posted here by the way).

Did I quote u for saying that S4 performs worse than S3 and HTC One? I was only talking about making compromises with the FOV of the lens since it performs better than S3 and HTC One in many cases. So Mr Andrew, please do read properly before you start lashing out at me.

I am not bashing you but you are the one bashing S4 like Samsung owes you big time. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(giovanni @ Apr 1 2013, 01:02 PM)
You did not complain about the bezel but you said it could still fit in another 0.2". That is the bit that draws me to the bezel discussion and comparison. The bezel of S3 is already small enough and I'm AMAZED with your assertion saying that it could fit in extra screen real estate, but how do you know that it was feasible before the release of S4?

From your tone of saying "anything is possible" in regards to the slimmer body of S4, I infer that you are simply not impressed hence did not consider it an innovation. After all, you did complain heaven and hell about the whole build being similar to s3 (I am too lazy to read back all that you have posted here by the way).

Did I quote u for saying that S4 performs worse than S3 and HTC One? I was only talking about making compromises with the FOV of the lens since it performs better than S3 and HTC One in many cases. So Mr Andrew, please do read properly before you start lashing out at me.

I am not bashing you but you are the one bashing S4 like Samsung owes you big time. whistling.gif
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post Apr 1 2013, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(girl83 @ Apr 1 2013, 01:14 PM)
cool down, cheers  tongue.gif
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I am pretty chilled. smile.gif
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QUOTE(giovanni @ Apr 1 2013, 01:02 PM)
You did not complain about the bezel but you said it could still fit in another 0.2". That is the bit that draws me to the bezel discussion and comparison. The bezel of S3 is already small enough and I'm AMAZED with your assertion saying that it could fit in extra screen real estate, but how do you know that it was feasible before the release of S4?

From your tone of saying "anything is possible" in regards to the slimmer body of S4, I infer that you are simply not impressed hence did not consider it an innovation. After all, you did complain heaven and hell about the whole build being similar to s3 (I am too lazy to read back all that you have posted here by the way).

Did I quote u for saying that S4 performs worse than S3 and HTC One? I was only talking about making compromises with the FOV of the lens since it performs better than S3 and HTC One in many cases. So Mr Andrew, please do read properly before you start lashing out at me.

I am not bashing you but you are the one bashing S4 like Samsung owes you big time. whistling.gif
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really sick of his ranting too... geez. give us a break

anyone got octa core benchmark yet? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Apr 1 2013, 10:39 AM)
To be honest, the design by human DESIGN really does bug me alot. Now with S4, I might buy it but need another phone with very good build quality(other than android, eg iPhone 5, Nokia Lumia 920). 2 phone = perfect! cons: moneh! sad.gif
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What do you mean by a phone with a good build quality? IMO, S3 and Note 2 have pretty good build quality. Drop it or not anything damaged you can just change the back cover, etc. It's not so easy to get damaged compared if you drop an aluminium/metal phone.. and S4 is using Gorilla Glass 3 while others that you mentioned are using CGG2 only. So how much more build quality you want? They are already giving you the best in the market.

and speaking of good build quality = iPhone 5? lulz. I'm sorry but the iPhone 5 is the most fragile iPhone to date and in my opinion i think they used cheap aluminium but charged at a high price. Just go into the Apple thread and go read about all the complaints on the iPhone 5's build issues.. Out of the box already got scuffs, easily prone to scuffs and scratches, rattling noise when you shake the iPhone, etc etc.

S2, S3 and Note 2 have pretty good build quality despite using plastics... Plastic doesn't mean it is fragile, no quality or low build quality.

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There's a Samsung Galaxy S4 training held at Federal Hotel Kuala Lumpur today

Not sure when it will be released though
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QUOTE(girl83 @ Apr 1 2013, 11:22 AM)
Go for HTC one  smile.gif
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He did say 'other than Android' phone.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(cocooh @ Apr 1 2013, 03:15 PM)
There's a Samsung Galaxy S4 training held at Federal Hotel Kuala Lumpur today

Not sure when it will be released though
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How long is the training..?
Most probably the phone will be release 1 - 2 weeks after those training drool.gif

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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Apr 1 2013, 04:15 PM)
How long is the training..?
Most probably the phone will be release 1 - 2 weeks after those training  drool.gif
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QUOTE(LordDenning @ Apr 1 2013, 04:13 PM)
What do you mean by a phone with a good build quality? IMO, S3 and Note 2 have pretty good build quality. Drop it or not anything damaged you can just change the back cover, etc. It's not so easy to get damaged compared if you drop an aluminium/metal phone.. and S4 is using Gorilla Glass 3 while others that you mentioned are using CGG2 only. So how much more build quality you want? They are already giving you the best in the market.

and speaking of good build quality = iPhone 5? lulz. I'm sorry but the iPhone 5 is the most fragile iPhone to date and in my opinion i think they used cheap aluminium but charged at a high price. Just go into the Apple thread and go read about all the complaints on the iPhone 5's build issues.. Out of the box already got scuffs, easily prone to scuffs and scratches, rattling noise when you shake the iPhone, etc etc.

S2, S3 and Note 2 have pretty good build quality despite using plastics... Plastic doesn't mean it is fragile, no quality or low build quality.
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I mean the material it used. The premium feeling icon_idea.gif

S4+iPhone 5=GOOD!

S4 alone... yawn.gif
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Apr 1 2013, 04:29 PM)
I mean the material it used. The premium feeling icon_idea.gif

S4+iPhone 5=GOOD!

S4 alone...  yawn.gif
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S4 + Iphone design casing = Apple Iphone bankrupt
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Apr 1 2013, 04:29 PM)
I mean the material it used. The premium feeling icon_idea.gif

S4+iPhone 5=GOOD!

S4 alone...  yawn.gif
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LOL


Premium feeling and look but still have to put casing due to prone to scratches.

Loose all the premium look and feel.

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