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 Samsung Galaxy S4 (S IV?), The New King of Android?

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giovanni
post Mar 17 2013, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Mar 17 2013, 01:40 PM)
Sorry for my bad explanation, will write more in details rather than shortcut in future.
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Anyway, you're not wrong too because S4 is already stepping into the phablet category since it has a 5" screen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phablet

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post Mar 17 2013, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(Chocobos @ Mar 17 2013, 01:38 PM)
For people without arms, this kind of technology will become useful for them
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how are they gonna touch the screen and click on the apps sweat.gif

QUOTE(destEX @ Mar 17 2013, 01:39 PM)
hd games for mobile have long existed, so no sweat. For eye obviously using the front camera, then they calibrate your eye movement to the controls and walla. but then i doubt it will be a very solid way of movement/aiming and you cant not move your head at all...so there must be other ways that devs are interested in utlizing this.
another thing are the new sensors, many new interactive apps can be made with new sensors, in the future i foresee motion sensors being in mobiles and we would be playing games like the Wii and Kinect
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What if i have small eyes?? Lol. people with small eyes can't use also, or people with no eyes LOL

when they rotate or move their eyeballs the sensor can't detect sweat.gif
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post Mar 17 2013, 01:49 PM

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S4 currently not fully take my intention & I will stick with Note 2 at this moment.. so more towards Note 3 with 5.0 Key Lime Pie Vs Motorola Xphone 5.0 Key Lime Pie... May 2013 5.0 Key Lime Pie will coming...
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post Mar 17 2013, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(giovanni @ Mar 17 2013, 01:46 PM)
Anyway, you're not wrong too because S4 is already stepping into the phablet category since it has a 5" screen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phablet
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The poorest is Dell, first out 5 inch phone (phablet) but that time people still can't accept such giant size phone.
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post Mar 17 2013, 01:54 PM

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i seriously doubt the game which detects eye motion is gona be here in the next 2-3 years...definitely wont be in this s4...
the screen size is only 5 ", for the smart pause to work,you have to actually turn your whole head away from the screen..
One way i can think of making this work is by using the face detection which is already present in cameras,and as you turn your head away,it doesnt detect the face and pause the video..

All in all,i dont think the front camera is detecting the eyeball and eyeball tracking is definitely not going to happen,not to mention precise tracking for aiming in fps games in such a small screen..
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post Mar 17 2013, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Mar 17 2013, 01:54 PM)
i seriously doubt the game which detects eye motion is gona be here in the next 2-3 years...definitely wont be in this s4...
the screen size is only 5 ", for the smart pause to work,you have to actually turn your whole head away from the screen..
One way i can think of making this work is by using the face detection which is already present in cameras,and as you turn your head away,it doesnt detect the face and pause the video..

All in all,i dont think the front camera is detecting the eyeball and eyeball tracking is definitely not going to happen,not to mention precise tracking for aiming in fps games in such a small screen..
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eye-tracking is already present on the S4 if im not mistaken. because they have Smart Scroll. If you are viewing web pages or reading e-books, you dont have to scroll with fingers, just use your eyes to scroll. smile.gif
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post Mar 17 2013, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Mar 17 2013, 01:54 PM)
i seriously doubt the game which detects eye motion is gona be here in the next 2-3 years...definitely wont be in this s4...
the screen size is only 5 ", for the smart pause to work,you have to actually turn your whole head away from the screen..
One way i can think of making this work is by using the face detection which is already present in cameras,and as you turn your head away,it doesnt detect the face and pause the video..

All in all,i dont think the front camera is detecting the eyeball and eyeball tracking is definitely not going to happen,not to mention precise tracking for aiming in fps games in such a small screen..
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Can read here :-

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/games...etracking-games
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post Mar 17 2013, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(Oldskolboyz @ Mar 17 2013, 01:59 PM)
they are just stating about the potential and the possibility..and if you could see the demo in smart pause,the demonstrator actually turned his head about 90 degress away from the screen..so i doubt it is gona work on the s4,maybe it will work in the near future where new eye tracking sensors are made small enough to fit on the phone..

as for the dirt 3 demo video and the eye tribe thingy,i think it is managable cause of the big screen and the wide sensors..
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post Mar 17 2013, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(LordDenning @ Mar 17 2013, 01:57 PM)
eye-tracking is already present on the S4 if im not mistaken. because they have Smart Scroll. If you are viewing web pages or reading e-books, you dont have to scroll with fingers, just use your eyes to scroll. smile.gif
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as for the smart scroll,it would be more reasonable for me if they say they detect the face with the camera and as you tilt the device, they detect the face going 1 direction and scroll the device or maybe they do it with the gyro sensor?

If you look at this video here


He actually cover off the front camera which kinda prove my theory of smart pause based on face detecting..and the video pauses when it didnt detect the face..

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post Mar 17 2013, 02:40 PM

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Eye tracking won't be coming that soon in a phone , imagine the processing power needed to track and also not to mention battery life.

Samsung is good at implementing features , some may be gimmicky but some like smart pause or air gesture does seem to be useful.
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post Mar 17 2013, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(Chocobos @ Mar 17 2013, 12:45 PM)
This topic can easily be mistaken for Samsung bashing instead of S4 discussion. I don't really care about the material they use to house S4. It's just the design that disappoints me. Like others been saying, was hoping for a new and better look. HTC One looks much better.

However, I'm looking beyond aesthetic and would rather have better supports and features. SD Card, removable battery and faster updates are still my most important criterias in choosing my next phone. I would have considered the One but it lacks things I want.

When Key Lime Pie is ready, I believe Samsung will not let their customers down. They will be among the firsts to get a taste of the new version of Android. Software vs design? Software it is for me. But too ugly phone I also don want la  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(PeeEl @ Mar 17 2013, 12:52 PM)
It is not. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but when one posts some ridiculous or un-substantiated statements, it just irks me.
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Absolutely everyone is entitled to their opinions. The only thing is that civil society does not make imposition of one over another. There is quick degeneration into camps when a sentence goes "I think A is worse than B and screw A" without substantiation, and the originator of said post doesn't take an effort to clearly elucidate why his position is so.

QUOTE(giovanni @ Mar 17 2013, 01:14 PM)
Yeah they are similar but not identical. iphone 3 to iphone 5 are all similar too in case you haven't noticed. Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending samsung neither am I bashing Apple. I have far too many gadgets from different brands (apple,samsung,htc etc). What baffles me is the fact that, there are obvious changes to the design (less curvy and bigger screen compared to S3) but people choose not to acknowledge it.

Of course I know it looks similar to its predecessor and boy, I how wish samsung did revamp the design too but, there are changes nevertheless. To fit a bigger screen on a similar body size is already an impressive feat, don't you think? Apple has to elongate the body of IP5 to do this.
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Absolutely correct again. Frivolous (as kindly reminded by PeeEl) and nebulous come to mind since some can only see skin deep. I can't help but wonder how people take 6" platform shoes (or somesuch) as contemporary fashion when it was vogue in the 70's.

QUOTE(destEX @ Mar 17 2013, 01:29 PM)
so can suggest another flagship phone with gooding specs, gooding xda community support and with removable battery cover and microsdcard slot?
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This I eagerly await as well. However I would prefer the use of the term "excellent" to "gooding". A Google of "gooding" yields no linguistic usage scenarios, only place names and Last names.

QUOTE(SnailWithFingers @ Mar 17 2013, 01:46 PM)
how are they gonna touch the screen and click on the apps  sweat.gif
What if i have small eyes?? Lol. people with small eyes can't use also, or people with no eyes LOL

when they rotate or move their eyeballs the sensor can't detect  sweat.gif
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Uh, use their tongues? So Chinese ghosts with long tongues can use it? laugh.gif
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post Mar 17 2013, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(SnailWithFingers @ Mar 17 2013, 01:46 PM)
how are they gonna touch the screen and click on the apps  sweat.gif
What if i have small eyes?? Lol. people with small eyes can't use also, or people with no eyes LOL

when they rotate or move their eyeballs the sensor can't detect  sweat.gif
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Eye tracking system should not be limited only to phones. It can be used on many other platforms which can benefits those in needs.
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post Mar 17 2013, 04:21 PM

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A nice video explaining SIV
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post Mar 17 2013, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Mar 17 2013, 09:08 AM)
Come on...

Apple has 3GS, and 4S.

Samsung also can... They called it S IV but in your heart, just treat it as S IIIS.
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if naming like that sure get sue from Apple
samsung will only name either s4 mini, or s3 plus whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Mar 17 2013, 10:54 AM)
Maybe for easier reading. After reaching III, some people will start confusing next was IV or VI.
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IV = V - I = 4
VI = V + I = 6
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post Mar 17 2013, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Mar 17 2013, 05:01 PM)
IV = V - I = 4
VI = V + I = 6
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Cool! Haha!
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post Mar 17 2013, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Mar 17 2013, 05:01 PM)
if naming like that sure get sue from Apple
samsung will only name either s4 mini, or s3 plus whistling.gif
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Well, you are wrong my friend.
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post Mar 17 2013, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(AC_ryan94 @ Mar 17 2013, 12:15 PM)
Sakai... Samsung  Galaxy S plus And SII plus la
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No wonder nobody here replied you.

All you do is shouting. If you really are Samsung fans, you should at least know all those Plus and Mini has lower spec than the original. Plus does not mean more.

The S at the back denote same design with hardware upgrade like Apple did. It's just a joke anyway.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Mar 17 2013, 05:56 PM)
Well, you are wrong my friend.
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why wrong hmm.gif ???
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post Mar 17 2013, 06:54 PM

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Poison poison. After looking at the S4 pictures for too long, I feel it's not that bad also la(and maybe due to the fact I quite like S3 design also) tongue.gif

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