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 Samsung Galaxy S4 (S IV?), The New King of Android?

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post Mar 15 2013, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Mar 15 2013, 09:18 PM)
Dual Mode - already at LG Optimus G.
The rest features - same as HTC One announcing earlier on it HTC Zoe camera function.

Story album - no comment.

Floating touch - this was really cool as no need S-Pen anymore but not useful, it just fun to play and show.

Voice translator - cool if it work properly and no need great US/UK accent.

Slimmer than S III - Yes, smaller than S III, slighly where un-noticeable.

S III (136.6 x 70.6 x 8.6 mm) | S4 (136.6 x 69.8 x 7.9 mm)
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I agree..The floating touch is cool and it seems like more to a bragging software..as i see that it has a delay..so not really practical..the part where u can scroll by tilting is also nice but i have 1 question. Imagine u are not sitting or not standing steadily, will the screen just scroll itself?

Also,the part where it tracks ur eyeball and pause the video for you when you are not looking is a little extra imo..might eat up more battery juice and it does have a delay according to some hands on video,the lady had to repeat doing the look away from the screen before the video is paused... sweat.gif

Maybe the floating touch is useful when you are eating and dirtied your hand?? tongue.gif then you can still use your phone.. tongue.gif

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post Mar 15 2013, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Mar 15 2013, 10:18 PM)
The airview feature is something i don't really understand , Note 2 i understand how it works with stylus maybe detecting to be floating near the screen.

But with S4's latest airview , how is it achievable? What sort of detecting hardware did they put to detect fingers?
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Something that was present long ago on xperia sola.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vESGv2O5mhQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzFdyPuoIvU

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post Mar 15 2013, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Mar 15 2013, 10:24 PM)
Hmm , but what's the tech behind it? How is it detecting the fingers?  hmm.gif
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iinm,from what i read back then about the xperia sola,something about capacitive touch...

http://developer.sonymobile.com/knowledge-...floating-touch/
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post Mar 15 2013, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(emy_xvidia @ Mar 15 2013, 10:33 PM)
if its rightly priced, then it'd attract more potential buyers for sure. I really hope that they change their standard pricing with the S4. Interested to get the 32GB one, but if only the price is right as in <RM2200 for a 32GB model.

design-wise, it is disappointed, especially to S3 users whose habit is upgrading phone every year.  tongue.gif but even its made from poly-carbonate materials, the finishing of it is nice imo. HTC One is nice too, but 4.7" for me is a lil bit small nowadays since I spent a lot of time on my phone rather than the desktop nowadays. How i wish Note 3 is just around the corner as well.
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when note 3 is out,then you would wish for s5,then note 4 and so on..we will never win the race against the pace of smartphone technology,so the thumb rule for buying smartphone is just to choose whatever phone you like,buy it and settle down with it. biggrin.gif
Or if u have alot of extra cash to burn,then just change phone once a new phone is out. smile.gif
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post Mar 15 2013, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(Hico @ Mar 15 2013, 11:55 PM)
there is so many antutu result from the web, some show s4 win some show one win..just grab the one u prefer..u r the one who use it, not other use...  tongue.gif
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in the end i think there wont be any difference to the naked eye...only benchmark is better but in real life usage its omre or less the same.
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post Mar 16 2013, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Mar 16 2013, 04:03 PM)
IMHO, I find metal bodied devices unsuitable for sweaty palms, and you will  doh.gif  and  cry.gif  if you ever drop your premiumdesignsupernicesexy aluminium device since it must be naked to show off its natural beauty.
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agree..although htc one design is superb and premium...but im worried about its aluminium body..how come nobody did a drop test on it? sweat.gif

I dropped my dad's ip5 on the road once... doh.gif and the aluminium chipped off..that time i adviced my dad to not use a cover as it spoils the beauty and he agreed...fortunately the place where it is chipped off can be covered by simply using a cover and he chose a slim cover so the thinness is still there.. sweat.gif

Felt so bad about it.. cry.gif

So i doubt ill get htc one because of its aluminium body...
Either get s4 or xperia z..will be waiting for a drop test for s4 as i have already see many drop test for xperia z and its holding up fine.. smile.gif

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post Mar 16 2013, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Mar 16 2013, 04:11 PM)
I cannot find my truly perfect phone... How lei...

I want Sony Xperia Z design and body + HTC spec and SLCD3 panel + Samsung S4 modified OS and features.

If got above combination, then it will be real super perfect phone for year 2013 !!!
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TRUE,I agree!!! but i would want sony's camera with a mix of htc and samsung camera software as well as post editing software...sony's post rendering sucks as theres a problem with the compression ratio of sony... sweat.gif not to mention sony's waterproof and htc's sound quality...

QUOTE(joytest @ Mar 16 2013, 04:12 PM)
oi leng lor ...... I'm sure you've seen pics of BENT iponce

Otterbox FTW whistling.gif
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yes ive seen the bent ip5 yet its still fully functional.. laugh.gif
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post Mar 16 2013, 06:04 PM

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things are going off topic..keep it on track please.. sweat.gif
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post Mar 17 2013, 11:01 AM

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ppl will still blindly buy samsung ,and samsung s4 just made its way to the headlines of a chinese newspaper this morning... sweat.gif
Talk about advertisement...
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post Mar 17 2013, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Oldskolboyz @ Mar 17 2013, 11:15 AM)
Right now most game developer doesn't talk about HD 1080p but more towards creating new era gaming world based on s4 feature "eye tracking systems".

They are very keen to utilise it as next game controler and also can work closely with samsung dev. on it. Imagine game like shootings game can aiming targets using our eyes before we pull the trigger.. when think on it, awesome...
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thought the eyeball thingy uses the front camera? hmm.gif
How would you aim with it?
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post Mar 17 2013, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Oldskolboyz @ Mar 17 2013, 11:25 AM)
Sniper gun always come with cross image it's.. that what I'm refer to.. that not only game developer think at this moment but more than that..
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what im saying is that it is definitely not possible with the current technology in s4 now..as the smart pause and smart scroll thingy is based on the front camera registering your eyeball( i.e. whether it is looking at the screen or not) it cannot tell where the eye is looking at on the screen..

besides that,there are news that this technology will come to the s3 as well..so if it does come to s3,we can conclude that it is not hardware dependent..just need a front camera and you can have smart scroll and smart pause..

http://www.gizbot.com/mobile/samsung-mobil...-s3-011140.html

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post Mar 17 2013, 01:54 PM

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i seriously doubt the game which detects eye motion is gona be here in the next 2-3 years...definitely wont be in this s4...
the screen size is only 5 ", for the smart pause to work,you have to actually turn your whole head away from the screen..
One way i can think of making this work is by using the face detection which is already present in cameras,and as you turn your head away,it doesnt detect the face and pause the video..

All in all,i dont think the front camera is detecting the eyeball and eyeball tracking is definitely not going to happen,not to mention precise tracking for aiming in fps games in such a small screen..
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post Mar 17 2013, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(Oldskolboyz @ Mar 17 2013, 01:59 PM)
they are just stating about the potential and the possibility..and if you could see the demo in smart pause,the demonstrator actually turned his head about 90 degress away from the screen..so i doubt it is gona work on the s4,maybe it will work in the near future where new eye tracking sensors are made small enough to fit on the phone..

as for the dirt 3 demo video and the eye tribe thingy,i think it is managable cause of the big screen and the wide sensors..
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post Mar 17 2013, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(LordDenning @ Mar 17 2013, 01:57 PM)
eye-tracking is already present on the S4 if im not mistaken. because they have Smart Scroll. If you are viewing web pages or reading e-books, you dont have to scroll with fingers, just use your eyes to scroll. smile.gif
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as for the smart scroll,it would be more reasonable for me if they say they detect the face with the camera and as you tilt the device, they detect the face going 1 direction and scroll the device or maybe they do it with the gyro sensor?

If you look at this video here


He actually cover off the front camera which kinda prove my theory of smart pause based on face detecting..and the video pauses when it didnt detect the face..

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post Mar 18 2013, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Mar 17 2013, 07:12 PM)
Two cases so far that i saw from Xperia Z thread.
Few days released..their pretty glass phone already have micro scratch. rclxub.gif
Welcome to the real world...  thumbup.gif
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Think it is the anti shatter sheet which is on top of the scratch resistant glass which got scratched..the anti shatter sheet is not scratch proof..
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post Mar 18 2013, 05:21 PM

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there goes s4 sales for the custom community..down the drain...

But ppl who dont play with their phone too much or just love using stock will still get the phone..esp those rich aunties or teenage girls who just use it for fb,insta,twitter,whatsapp,etc...
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post Mar 18 2013, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(eszol @ Mar 18 2013, 05:21 PM)
hopefully Samsung will use the tactic of giving free devices (s4) to them. lol

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they really should share those source code to us
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i think give free they oso dont want..its such a headache to them compare to other manufacturer.. sweat.gif
unless they share source code..
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QUOTE(joytest @ Mar 18 2013, 10:25 PM)
Ya lor ... the 2 great religious wars - DeviceMaterial-ism and DisplayNitpick-ism.

Another one is the Great War of Platform-ism but since this is the Holy Android forum, only praise unto the Great Robot !!!!
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the great green robot!!!

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